Alliance of the Libertarian Left at Porcfest

[SunBeamsan]

Lessons from HAITIT?

WTF?! Yeah Papa Doc is a real swell guy

[Spillers72]

left libertarian have alot in common with right libertarians (libertarian Party) on freedom in general. The difference is that LLs are concerned with the poor and finding solutions to empower the power so as to reduce the need for government. Worker co-ops, cooperative housing, education, healthcare, etc are all apart of LL thinking.

[asdfgasdfasdful]

"left"-libertarianism is one of the dumbest labels out there.. worsted only by "anarchist"

[NoLongerFooled]

Libertarian Left? There shouldn't be any Left in there.

[danconia3873]

Yeah I hate the terms of "left" and "right"... so obsolete.

[snoopyflick]

I think anarchist should all vote, but don't worry about campaigning. People read votes as the ultimate polling system. It's basically the most important poll on that issue. So vote, because it's little energy. Campaigning might be a waste of time and money, I'll give you that, but why not just participate in a poll. It helps show your not as fringe as people think. That you aren't the only one supporting freedom.

[Spillers72]

I have no problem with voting. We have to deal with the real world right now. Proudhon who is the father of modern anarchism actually ran for public office in France. He supported gradual change within society. Work now to create alternatives to government and reduce the need for government and also work to morph the state in a more libertarian/anarchist direction. Spooner also favored voting as a means of self defense against the state.

[jessesainthimmel]

I've wanted to go to Porcupine for years but I live all the way in California. Hopefully though, next year I'll have the financial means to get out there!

[sigloiv]

@jessesainthimmel If only our state government wasn't taking so much of your money...Fuck CA.

[jessesainthimmel]

@sigloiv Seriously, I've almost acquired enough to get out though! This place is pretty much bullshit, you should get out too!

[MillionthUsername]

I don't get the "left" or "right" thing either. People are expressing their anarchic preferences with respect to activism or advocacy.

If you are against politics, why use political language to describe what you're doing?

It is true that market institutions MUST exist as a real-world alternative. That kind of gradualism is a lot better than trying to tame Leviathan within its own corrupt system.

[wait887]

It makes no sense to describe yourself as "left." I spend so much time breaking down the false left/right argument. I'm sure I would agree with their message and what they're goals are. I just don't like the title, "libertarian left."

[Leetist]

I do think there are differences that do separate "left" and "right" libertarians. Left libertarians are agorists and do not support statist companies, while a right libertarian puts forth lukewarm support if any at all towards agorism and still supports companies that prop up the state. Left libertarians are against intellectual property, while right libertarians are more likely to support intellectual property. Left-libertarians are also in opposition to right libertarians on altruism.

[stratvic]

What if you are opposed to Intellectual Property and altruism? ...Does that make you an anarchist centrist?

[AnarchyInYourHead]

Yeah, the anarchy labels bug me a little, but whatever.

[FistsoFuckinFreedom]

Labels bug me.

[Anon1696]

Labels bug me.

Action describes.

[Bound4NH]

"If you look at anarchy as an individual freedom system", then the whole notion of right vs. left goes out the window too.