In the international law the Armenian allegations of genocide fail to meet the minimum proof required by the U.N Convections.So stop playing the victim get over it
There was no extermination of Armenians. In related news, there were never any Beothuks in Newfoundland; it's just a fantasy story. No Aborigines ever existed in Tasmania; it's all just propaganda.The Bo people of China were just a myth. The Yahi of California were just a hoax made up by liberal politicians. And last, the British were actually kind & generous to the Irish. Stay tuned. After the break Sarah Palin will be joining us to explain how humans & dinosaurs coexisted.
Playing hardball with ARMENIAN'S will get you Turks no where if you think you can distroy Armenia you are dead wrong don't make the same mistake you Azeri's friends made!
Monguls that stole land from every civilized nations from the Greeks and even the Persians ! Now thery have there eyes set on Germany Germans please be careful Turks are thye kind of people you invite to your home and end upm gettings kicked out of your own house!
I guess your the smart Armenian. SOOO smart that he actually thinks there was a nation of Greeks, before the Turks came into the picture. I guess it's tough to be the King. I mean Armenians never had a nation until the Russians gave them one after they murdered all the Turks that lived there. And now i have to listen to the advise of an Armenian that is incoherent of what people think of Armenians in California, Massachuessets, Michigan, France, Syria and Lebanon. Ohh, people love Armenians )
@ataturk2k "Armenians never had a nation until the Russians gave them one after they murdered all the Turks that lived there."? Are you kidding me? Where do you get this information from? Or are you making this up?
@kavkaz4life Dont put ur long armenian nose into Turkish German affairs (it's like I saw an armenian who brought a Bulgarian flag to protest in Washington)-He was standing like a pimple with no clue why he did it.And u, armenian bastards-of all big empires (Romans,Ottoman and so on) --(5 mln alltogether)--be afraid of 300mln.Don't mess with us
@kavkaz4life u know how many armenians had high ranks during Ottoman Empire--a lot and u know that-why should they give them high positions if they wanted to eliminate them?Why they didn't do it in 300 years?
Recent attack by army to unarmed Azerbaijani villages and towns killing again woman, children and create 1,5 million Azerbaijani Turks homeless population fled to Baku. This recent events shows perfectly who is who?
Iam from europe stupid fuck, hole europe is sick about armenians ho coming to french from french to other europe citys steeling . Making bank lones that they noth pay. and youre filfty cind calling themselves aryann hahaha what the big nose ? ore the hair fucked up face? tel me? 80 Procent of the Turks in europe are succesfol ;) Turkish economy is growing each day. What about the armenians there sucking Turkey for reopening the border haha and 12billjon dollar dead to the imf dirty parasite
@kavkaz4life And as for Armenians, they have too much body hair, have way too much body odor, put on too much cologne, look like apes, have huge noses, rip off welfare systems, are bad people to do business with, and in general are hated by about 95% of the world's population.
@kavkaz4life Wow you're a piece of dirt. The last time we attacked a country to defend our geopolitical interests was in 1974. The last time America attacked a country for the defense of their nation was 2003. You want the definition of blood thirsty? Don't go to Turkey looking for it ass hole.
I don't think an American qualifies to speak on behalf of the US. In Turkey we had Armenians speaking on behalf of Turks and look where that got us. The Armenians were trusted to the highest degree and and they backstabbed their government. Armenians have started doing this to the US too. They are anti-Nato, pro-Kurdish terror, and are staunch Russian allies. So, HOW ARE ARMENIANS PATRIOTIC AMERICANS????
Typical Armenian. You don't need to read between the lines to see the hatred. They are quite open with their hatred. They excelled for 1,000years under Ottomans. amassed immense wealth. Ottomans even built their churches. How did they repay the Ottomans? By stabbing them in the back by allying with Russians and killing innocent Turks and Kurds in Eastern Turkey. Just ask any Californian or Bostonian what they think of Armenians. Sneaky, Dishonest, and Corrupt. They are Middle Eastern too.
@ataturk2k Most Californians despise Armenians (from what I've read on YouTube), some even wish that the Turks would slaughter these. I'm not sure about non-Armo people from Massachusetts, but I'm sure the feeling between them and Californians in regard to Armenians is mutual.
Go search for the "brow Down" and "Party Like an Armo" videos. Most non-Ape-menian comments there don't like Armenians.
@kavkaz4life No, you all drive salvaged "nice" cars, fill up a one bedroom apartment with eight hairy people, and in general, rip off people left and right. Most people don't like Armenians to begin with. It would be better if the Turks slaughtered these fucks to begin with.
Please take your Racist ARMENIAN propaganda elsewhere. Your people are liars and traitors. Your profile pic is just and example.... Clean your mouth and hatred. Killing Turks will get you no where. Look what happened in the past when Armenians attacked Turks...
ha ha, stop hiding behind christianity, u pathetic scum. u can only kid yourselves with your tales. we dont deny anything cuz there is nothing to deny.if it really happened , then why dont the whole world recognize it ? why only a few countries recognized it ? they recognized cuz of your diaspora in those countries, no other reason
More Turks died fighting the Armenians from controlling our lands then Areminians. It was not genocide, and there has never been a deliberate attempt at causing mass deaths at the expense of Aremenians.
turks are from mongolia! and we are proud of our ancestors! genghiz khan and attila hun were great leaders.....
how the hell can we commit genocide during war and independence? why armenians?
ps...jimmyjones you scots are born slaves to the english! turks were never SLAVES! NEVER LIVED WITHOUT INDEPENDENCE...SOMETHING ARMENIA NOR UK COULD SAY!
How many damn turks are were there and are in the world about 30 million maybe alot more. if 600,000 did parish which i doubt it is nothing compared to the 1.5 million they killed. For a people only being 3 million 1.5 is a devastating number. Half the culture gone. And dont ever try to justify something you know nothing about
I would you suggest you research the total Armenian population in 1912, then on 1919.
As for dead Turks, there were millions in the Balkans, Caucasus, Anatolia and the Middle East... Don't forget, the Turkish Empire survived until 1923, which comprise 34 modern nations, most which never existed in history. Including Armenia(a province of Rome, then a brief kingdom).
Armenia actually had 4 dynasties, and plenty more periods of autonomy (under the Byzantines they had Armenian themes, and Persarmenia was the eastern portion controlled by Persia). You can find references to Armenian states from ancient Persia, to Rome, to Byzantium, to the Crusades, and to the autonomous regions in Russian Armenia and the Ottoman Empire (Armenians were an official millet for hundreds of years).
But in your mind, this does not count as existance.
Autonomy or millet is not nationhood. The Turks themselves did not enjoy nationhood until the fascism took root in Europe, the Balkans and the Middle East, only then did the Turks decide to create a nation of Turks. The Ottomans were not based on nationality. This is why the Armenians were not forced to assimilation or conversion, like the British, French, Russians and Americans had done.
Autonomy and millet is definitely nationhood, even by their very definitions (why would they be granted autonomy or millet status if they weren't considered a nation?). Today all Scotland has is a form of autonomy, and they are considered a nation. There are hundreds of other examples in the present-day and throughout history.
And you're forgetting that while the Ottomans were not nationalists, the Young Turk part was. That is how they were radically different from the Sultan.
"What have the Turks ever contributed to culture, to art, or to any aspect of human progress that you can think of? They are a human cancer, a creeping agony in the flesh of the lands they misgovern, rotting every fiber of life. They have ruled over most of the countries which are the candle of civilization..."
-David Lloyd George-Prime Minister of Great Britain (1916-22), in his book "Through Terror to Triumph" (1915)
So you are the real Lezginka07, posing as an Azeri that disclaims being Turkish. You armenians are so deceptive, wrong and dirty and you can not see it can you? Just plain dirty and deceptive. God help you all.
well no im not Lezginka07, but i can agree i did say that comment below mine it was a reply to what a turk said to me and its to horrific to even place on youtube, i was talking the truth below there turks did descend from mongolia :)
I found your comment by the way on a NEO NAZI site below with the dirty Armenian schemes that our ancestors always warned about...
CilicianAri | January 04, 2008
welcome german crusdaer you must remeber the armenian Cilician Order during the Crusades also, when we aided the Frankish Knights with soldiers towards antioch!! FUCK ISTANBUL its CONSTANTINOPLE, and lets send those turkish hordes back to MONGOLIA! :)
"What have the Turks ever contributed to culture, to art, or to any aspect of human progress that you can think of? They are a human cancer, a creeping agony in the flesh of the lands they misgovern, rotting every fiber of life. They have ruled over most of the countries which are the candle of civilization..."
-David Lloyd George-Prime Minister of Great Britain (1916-22), in his book "Through Terror to Triumph" (1915)
And what has your people contributed except the greatest genocide lie in History,which someday they will always be remembered for. As for you,I can see your cntributions very clearly, hatred and racism.Good job.
your hatred won't get you anywhere, you will see, and you will regret.
both sides have suffered but armenians allied Turkey's enemies then we had to deport armenians. what should we do, this is a war, and there is an area of betrayers whose eyes are on our soil. you are like a spoilt child crying all day long and you want your elders to give you sugar.
Just imagine 9 million Armenians world wide against 80 million Turks, and Turky is in a mess! There must be some truth in there shouldn't anyone assume!
you wont be able to change the history politically. genocide convincers' logic is at the level of a 7 year old child, you say you are majority but they believe us, what an argument.
do you know anything about the Genocide? You don't seem to bring any arguments yourself. You took ancient ARMENIAN land (just look at how big it was at fx Alexander the Great's time), you took our homes, you killed our people, you raped our women and drowned our children in Van and Sevan, and now you won't apologize? What is mentally wrong with you?
oh how bad we are, oh i'm so sorry. you are so pure, so innocent, i can't look at you, you shine so brightly, brighter than sun.LMAO
"you took our homes, you killed our people, you raped our women and drowned our children" this is diaspora's point of view, only hatred. fascistic, pathetic and psychopatic
Your ancient Armenian lands was ruled by the Ottomans for 800 years.Armenians had no state of 'Armenia'nor any kind of republic formed.Who was there before the Armenians,Romans,Greeks..so what makes it yours.Anyway,as for the massacres,why don't you go see what your people did to the 600,000 Turks by betraying their 'homeland'for trying to build 'Armenia'
If your rebellion is called Genocide, then what are the deaths the Turks killed called? Considering they started the assault 60years prior and escalated during WW1? 3 million real death figures. not 200,000 inflated to 1.5m(which is over the total armenian population.
What rebellion? In 1914, the ARMENIAN MEN were conscripted into the OTTOMAN TURKISH army in 2 waves. The rest of your paragraph is lies..so let us start with the first one. WAHT REBELLION? WHERE? WHEN? WHAT THE F R U LYING BAOUT?
Come on. What Rebellion? Dashnaks/Hinchak mercenaries didn't exist? They burnt my greatgrandparents village to the ground rounding up all the inhabitants in a mosque. All but one child escaped out of hundreds of corpses. he lived to tell the story.Armenians were raiding throughout the East for several decades.
Genocide is the deliberate annhilation of an ethnic race. The Armenian militias killed anything Turkish, just as the Armenian Diaspora teaches anything Turkish as being evil to refresh the hatred. Hatred is the main reason for all killings. There were 1.3 million Armenians in Ottoman Turkey in 1914, 1.1-1.3 million were living in 1919. Out of 11 million Turks, only 9 million were living.
Most of the deaths were because of famine, caused by Armenian militias destroying crops, animals and throwing dead bodies in wells to poison the water source. You Decide....
Armenians were deported into deserts where Turkish troops were waiting to behead the males and steal the females. That is what happened to my family from BURSA and TEKIR DAGH (RODOSTO). Watchmaker uncle and grandfather of my dad were beheaded. Dad's mom sent to harem, escaped. Caravans of camels could not survive the desert death camps! Much less humans! =GENOCIDE++
Bursa Armenians were not deported. If they went to Syria, who beheaded them? There were not Turkish forces in the South. There were only Kurdish bandits trying to retaliate for the 50,000 Kurds massacred by Armenians. Greeks were not killed. They are the ones that forced a population exchange. My family roamed around for 5 years, 3 countries because of the Armenian mercenaries(Armenians started this whole thing).
Where was your alleged family from? Some Turks did suffer, but not due to Genocide. There was no government plan against them. Do not compare GENOCIDE to WAR, they are both bad but GENOCIDE is much more sinister, and has no "Geneva convention" rules. Any crime worse than GENOCIDE? Figure it out yet?
Nearly same thing with my family. 11 were killed. Grand dad and his father only alive. 40 years later grand dad finds out one of his 6 brothers is alive too and lives in Canada. He never could direstly get in touch with him.Only through his daugther, my mom. And mom suffered greatly from the after effects of the genocide.She still is.
cafferty cn eat shit... if hes dumb enough not to understand... does he asks the same question as to why remember the Holocaust??? you dumb fuck, the vote was 27- 21 you dumb ass turks that post here... "democrats and republicans voted against it", more people voted yes than no... you're gonna get what you deserve you pieces of shit
It was talk like this that started the Armenian hate machine. You can't be real by saying that Armenians, rising up against their government(treachery),slitting their neighbors throats, destorying their food supply, then running off to Europe, Lebanon and the America's, then claiming genocide because you no longer live there. No need for threats, because the Turks already know you're guilty. Use the christian card to your advantage, but good christians no your full of crap.
Big bad PROUD TURK with 85% Armenian blood running through your veins HAPPY that his MONGOL-TURKISH people (5% of your blood) are going to CONTINUE TO GET AWAY with the MURDER and EXPULSION of your daddy people! Nothing like fighting to deny GENOCIDE and obfuscate history! You go girl Turks! Cowards run from YOUR OWN history. FRUITS OF GENOCIDE!
Hello Genocide denier! Hey NIKRE: Asultan Abdul Hami'd MOM was 100% Armenian. Your ALPHABET was done by an ARMENIAN Hagop! Your MOSQUES and APRICOT TREES were built and planted with ARMENIAN HANDS. Over 600 words in common TURKISH are from ARMENIAN. Turkish is mainly PERSIAN and ENGLISH and ARABIC and ARMENIAN borrow words.
The GENOCIDE is real. You called me a liar. You are the DENIER. I am the truth teller. Look up on google these wo words: UPSHOT SALJUQ (spell it like that) and tell me what year UPSHOT SALJUQ lands you in, and tell me WHO is ARMENIAN. YOU are ARMENIAN by 900 years of stealing ARMENIAN girls and boys! I am your FATHER not brother!
As long as you don't leave this subject to historians or get it to human rights court, noone should even listen to you, you crap from your mouth.
astarcı you can't be a father, there is absolutely a handsome Turkish man married one of your grand* mothers and you had the surname astarcı. but i know that you told that to insult turkish people, ok go on with your wild attitude, we will se what it solves.
Hello VANArmenya. Armenians lived peacefully within the Ottoman Empire for centuries, and enjoyed prominent role especially in arts. This is a beautiful heritage that I as a Turk happily embrace. It proves that we are bonded throughout history and I hope that one day we will bond again. Just one thing, Turkish is not the language you describe. It's actually in the same language family as Korean.
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Oran Pamuk is a turkish nobel prize winner. Well known turkish historian. youtube or google him regarding genocide between turks and Armenians
filmodee 5 days ago
WE ALL KNOW ARMENIANS ARE GOOD AT LIES...
nec123tr 3 weeks ago
In the international law the Armenian allegations of genocide fail to meet the minimum proof required by the U.N Convections.So stop playing the victim get over it
izaak1211 4 months ago
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TELL THE TRUTH, U FUCKIN ANIMAL TURKS !!!!!!!
YOU INFIDEL MOTHER FUCKERS !!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK YOUR KORAN AND ALL OF YOUR GOD'S !!!!!!!!!!
YOU HISTORICAL INFIDEL MOTHER FUCKERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MOTHER FUCKERS LIKE YOU SHOULDN'T BE AROUND ANYWHERE NEAR TO THIS
EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL OF YOU TURK MOTHER FUCKERS SHOULD BURN IN HELL, AND MAKE SOUR NO FUCKIN BURNED DOST LEFT AFTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCKIN IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There was no extermination of Armenians. In related news, there were never any Beothuks in Newfoundland; it's just a fantasy story. No Aborigines ever existed in Tasmania; it's all just propaganda.The Bo people of China were just a myth. The Yahi of California were just a hoax made up by liberal politicians. And last, the British were actually kind & generous to the Irish. Stay tuned. After the break Sarah Palin will be joining us to explain how humans & dinosaurs coexisted.
ArmenOfTheNorth 9 months ago
Playing hardball with ARMENIAN'S will get you Turks no where if you think you can distroy Armenia you are dead wrong don't make the same mistake you Azeri's friends made!
kavkaz4life 1 year ago
Nice name CAFFERTY, in the Arabic and Islamic languages Cafferty or "Kaffer" means non believer or denier. The name stick to the right person.
jackdjan 1 year ago
Ataturk2k you can sound smart and civilizied but you know better them me the Turks
don't want peace If they did they would admit to the Genocide like a civilzed nation
and open the borders with Armenia very simple this is the 21st century . But no
today if you talk about the genocide in Turkey you could get thrown in Jail !
If you are so even minded why don't you talk about this issue?
kavkaz4life 1 year ago
Wow are turks really human?
I almost forgot who there forfathers are
Monguls that stole land from every civilized nations from the Greeks and even the Persians ! Now thery have there eyes set on Germany Germans please be careful Turks are thye kind of people you invite to your home and end upm gettings kicked out of your own house!
kavkaz4life 1 year ago
I guess your the smart Armenian. SOOO smart that he actually thinks there was a nation of Greeks, before the Turks came into the picture. I guess it's tough to be the King. I mean Armenians never had a nation until the Russians gave them one after they murdered all the Turks that lived there. And now i have to listen to the advise of an Armenian that is incoherent of what people think of Armenians in California, Massachuessets, Michigan, France, Syria and Lebanon. Ohh, people love Armenians )
ataturk2k 1 year ago
@ataturk2k "Armenians never had a nation until the Russians gave them one after they murdered all the Turks that lived there."? Are you kidding me? Where do you get this information from? Or are you making this up?
FlyinHye 1 year ago
@kavkaz4life Dont put ur long armenian nose into Turkish German affairs (it's like I saw an armenian who brought a Bulgarian flag to protest in Washington)-He was standing like a pimple with no clue why he did it.And u, armenian bastards-of all big empires (Romans,Ottoman and so on) --(5 mln alltogether)--be afraid of 300mln.Don't mess with us
TheBuffaloeye 1 year ago
@kavkaz4life u know how many armenians had high ranks during Ottoman Empire--a lot and u know that-why should they give them high positions if they wanted to eliminate them?Why they didn't do it in 300 years?
TheBuffaloeye 1 year ago
@kavkaz4life Armenian dog!
tracer1024 1 year ago 5
Recent attack by army to unarmed Azerbaijani villages and towns killing again woman, children and create 1,5 million Azerbaijani Turks homeless population fled to Baku. This recent events shows perfectly who is who?
deeptuber109 2 years ago
@deeptuber109 who cares!
kavkaz4life 1 year ago
Just ask any person in Europe about Turks
dirty,sneaky,and blood thirsty!
kavkaz4life 2 years ago
Iam from europe stupid fuck, hole europe is sick about armenians ho coming to french from french to other europe citys steeling . Making bank lones that they noth pay. and youre filfty cind calling themselves aryann hahaha what the big nose ? ore the hair fucked up face? tel me? 80 Procent of the Turks in europe are succesfol ;) Turkish economy is growing each day. What about the armenians there sucking Turkey for reopening the border haha and 12billjon dollar dead to the imf dirty parasite
wotanblitzkrieg 2 years ago 8
@kavkaz4life And as for Armenians, they have too much body hair, have way too much body odor, put on too much cologne, look like apes, have huge noses, rip off welfare systems, are bad people to do business with, and in general are hated by about 95% of the world's population.
TheGreatAtilla 2 years ago
@kavkaz4life I have a lot of European friends and they love turkish people and their food :P
wallcanow 1 year ago
@kavkaz4life Wow you're a piece of dirt. The last time we attacked a country to defend our geopolitical interests was in 1974. The last time America attacked a country for the defense of their nation was 2003. You want the definition of blood thirsty? Don't go to Turkey looking for it ass hole.
crazycamel345 1 year ago
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all terror kome aus muslimland.Fuck turkei.
scheiß turken hat problem mit Serbia,Kurdistan.Armenia.Grischeland.
Fuck turkei!!!!
Vikko4ka 2 years ago
I don't think an American qualifies to speak on behalf of the US. In Turkey we had Armenians speaking on behalf of Turks and look where that got us. The Armenians were trusted to the highest degree and and they backstabbed their government. Armenians have started doing this to the US too. They are anti-Nato, pro-Kurdish terror, and are staunch Russian allies. So, HOW ARE ARMENIANS PATRIOTIC AMERICANS????
ataturk2k 2 years ago
Typical Armenian. You don't need to read between the lines to see the hatred. They are quite open with their hatred. They excelled for 1,000years under Ottomans. amassed immense wealth. Ottomans even built their churches. How did they repay the Ottomans? By stabbing them in the back by allying with Russians and killing innocent Turks and Kurds in Eastern Turkey. Just ask any Californian or Bostonian what they think of Armenians. Sneaky, Dishonest, and Corrupt. They are Middle Eastern too.
ataturk2k 2 years ago
you said it!
YamazakiSuperDM 2 years ago
@ataturk2k Most Californians despise Armenians (from what I've read on YouTube), some even wish that the Turks would slaughter these. I'm not sure about non-Armo people from Massachusetts, but I'm sure the feeling between them and Californians in regard to Armenians is mutual.
Go search for the "brow Down" and "Party Like an Armo" videos. Most non-Ape-menian comments there don't like Armenians.
TheGreatAtilla 2 years ago
@TheGreatAtilla if some don't like Armenian is bacasue we are very succesful live in nice houses and drive the best cars !
kavkaz4life 1 year ago
@kavkaz4life No, you all drive salvaged "nice" cars, fill up a one bedroom apartment with eight hairy people, and in general, rip off people left and right. Most people don't like Armenians to begin with. It would be better if the Turks slaughtered these fucks to begin with.
TheGreatAtilla 1 year ago
Please take your Racist ARMENIAN propaganda elsewhere. Your people are liars and traitors. Your profile pic is just and example.... Clean your mouth and hatred. Killing Turks will get you no where. Look what happened in the past when Armenians attacked Turks...
ataturk2k 2 years ago
it is not only USA who doesnt recognize it. except a few countries, the whole world doesnt recognize it.cuz it is nothing but an armenian tale
turken26 2 years ago
ha ha, stop hiding behind christianity, u pathetic scum. u can only kid yourselves with your tales. we dont deny anything cuz there is nothing to deny.if it really happened , then why dont the whole world recognize it ? why only a few countries recognized it ? they recognized cuz of your diaspora in those countries, no other reason
turken26 2 years ago
Down with the Aryan Axis of Russia/Armenia/Iran. Long live the Turkish/Georgian/Azeri/Israeli alliance!!!
noneofthis4322 3 years ago
GENOICIDE NEVER EVER HAPPENED ! STOP LYING Armenians
turken26 3 years ago 4
More Turks died fighting the Armenians from controlling our lands then Areminians. It was not genocide, and there has never been a deliberate attempt at causing mass deaths at the expense of Aremenians.
TheTruthCampaign 3 years ago
turks are from mongolia! and we are proud of our ancestors! genghiz khan and attila hun were great leaders.....
how the hell can we commit genocide during war and independence? why armenians?
ps...jimmyjones you scots are born slaves to the english! turks were never SLAVES! NEVER LIVED WITHOUT INDEPENDENCE...SOMETHING ARMENIA NOR UK COULD SAY!
8dontworry8 3 years ago
Shame on you Wolf Blitzer and Jack Cafferty!!!
I used to be a fan of you.
This changed my mind about you.
HugoBBS 3 years ago 2
Now that the whole world knows about the Armenian genocide, it's foolish to try and deny it.
hyebiz 3 years ago 2
How many damn turks are were there and are in the world about 30 million maybe alot more. if 600,000 did parish which i doubt it is nothing compared to the 1.5 million they killed. For a people only being 3 million 1.5 is a devastating number. Half the culture gone. And dont ever try to justify something you know nothing about
cold187heart187 3 years ago
I would you suggest you research the total Armenian population in 1912, then on 1919.
As for dead Turks, there were millions in the Balkans, Caucasus, Anatolia and the Middle East... Don't forget, the Turkish Empire survived until 1923, which comprise 34 modern nations, most which never existed in history. Including Armenia(a province of Rome, then a brief kingdom).
ataturk2k 3 years ago
i don't know who u r, but i highly respect u...
u write exactly that things - i wanna read... thanks for your comments(not only for this video)...
azerinin 3 years ago
Thank You. Tesekkurler.
ataturk2k 3 years ago
Armenia actually had 4 dynasties, and plenty more periods of autonomy (under the Byzantines they had Armenian themes, and Persarmenia was the eastern portion controlled by Persia). You can find references to Armenian states from ancient Persia, to Rome, to Byzantium, to the Crusades, and to the autonomous regions in Russian Armenia and the Ottoman Empire (Armenians were an official millet for hundreds of years).
But in your mind, this does not count as existance.
jimmyjones05 3 years ago
Autonomy or millet is not nationhood. The Turks themselves did not enjoy nationhood until the fascism took root in Europe, the Balkans and the Middle East, only then did the Turks decide to create a nation of Turks. The Ottomans were not based on nationality. This is why the Armenians were not forced to assimilation or conversion, like the British, French, Russians and Americans had done.
ataturk2k 3 years ago
Autonomy and millet is definitely nationhood, even by their very definitions (why would they be granted autonomy or millet status if they weren't considered a nation?). Today all Scotland has is a form of autonomy, and they are considered a nation. There are hundreds of other examples in the present-day and throughout history.
And you're forgetting that while the Ottomans were not nationalists, the Young Turk part was. That is how they were radically different from the Sultan.
jimmyjones05 3 years ago
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"What have the Turks ever contributed to culture, to art, or to any aspect of human progress that you can think of? They are a human cancer, a creeping agony in the flesh of the lands they misgovern, rotting every fiber of life. They have ruled over most of the countries which are the candle of civilization..."
-David Lloyd George-Prime Minister of Great Britain (1916-22), in his book "Through Terror to Triumph" (1915)
CilicianAri 4 years ago
So you are the real Lezginka07, posing as an Azeri that disclaims being Turkish. You armenians are so deceptive, wrong and dirty and you can not see it can you? Just plain dirty and deceptive. God help you all.
ataturk2k 4 years ago
well no im not Lezginka07, but i can agree i did say that comment below mine it was a reply to what a turk said to me and its to horrific to even place on youtube, i was talking the truth below there turks did descend from mongolia :)
CilicianAri 4 years ago
I found your comment by the way on a NEO NAZI site below with the dirty Armenian schemes that our ancestors always warned about...
CilicianAri | January 04, 2008
welcome german crusdaer you must remeber the armenian Cilician Order during the Crusades also, when we aided the Frankish Knights with soldiers towards antioch!! FUCK ISTANBUL its CONSTANTINOPLE, and lets send those turkish hordes back to MONGOLIA! :)
ataturk2k 4 years ago
"What have the Turks ever contributed to culture, to art, or to any aspect of human progress that you can think of? They are a human cancer, a creeping agony in the flesh of the lands they misgovern, rotting every fiber of life. They have ruled over most of the countries which are the candle of civilization..."
-David Lloyd George-Prime Minister of Great Britain (1916-22), in his book "Through Terror to Triumph" (1915)
lezginkaO7 4 years ago
And what has your people contributed except the greatest genocide lie in History,which someday they will always be remembered for. As for you,I can see your cntributions very clearly, hatred and racism.Good job.
moda46 4 years ago
your hatred won't get you anywhere, you will see, and you will regret.
both sides have suffered but armenians allied Turkey's enemies then we had to deport armenians. what should we do, this is a war, and there is an area of betrayers whose eyes are on our soil. you are like a spoilt child crying all day long and you want your elders to give you sugar.
nikre 4 years ago
Just imagine 9 million Armenians world wide against 80 million Turks, and Turky is in a mess! There must be some truth in there shouldn't anyone assume!
kaplyan 4 years ago 2
you wont be able to change the history politically. genocide convincers' logic is at the level of a 7 year old child, you say you are majority but they believe us, what an argument.
nikre 4 years ago
do you know anything about the Genocide? You don't seem to bring any arguments yourself. You took ancient ARMENIAN land (just look at how big it was at fx Alexander the Great's time), you took our homes, you killed our people, you raped our women and drowned our children in Van and Sevan, and now you won't apologize? What is mentally wrong with you?
lshemg 4 years ago
oh how bad we are, oh i'm so sorry. you are so pure, so innocent, i can't look at you, you shine so brightly, brighter than sun.LMAO
"you took our homes, you killed our people, you raped our women and drowned our children" this is diaspora's point of view, only hatred. fascistic, pathetic and psychopatic
nikre 4 years ago
Your ancient Armenian lands was ruled by the Ottomans for 800 years.Armenians had no state of 'Armenia'nor any kind of republic formed.Who was there before the Armenians,Romans,Greeks..so what makes it yours.Anyway,as for the massacres,why don't you go see what your people did to the 600,000 Turks by betraying their 'homeland'for trying to build 'Armenia'
moda46 4 years ago
If your rebellion is called Genocide, then what are the deaths the Turks killed called? Considering they started the assault 60years prior and escalated during WW1? 3 million real death figures. not 200,000 inflated to 1.5m(which is over the total armenian population.
ataturk2k 4 years ago
What rebellion? In 1914, the ARMENIAN MEN were conscripted into the OTTOMAN TURKISH army in 2 waves. The rest of your paragraph is lies..so let us start with the first one. WAHT REBELLION? WHERE? WHEN? WHAT THE F R U LYING BAOUT?
AstarjianBookFan 4 years ago
Come on. What Rebellion? Dashnaks/Hinchak mercenaries didn't exist? They burnt my greatgrandparents village to the ground rounding up all the inhabitants in a mosque. All but one child escaped out of hundreds of corpses. he lived to tell the story.Armenians were raiding throughout the East for several decades.
ataturk2k 4 years ago
One question: What crime is worse than genocide? Waiting.
AstarjianBookFan 4 years ago
Genocide is the deliberate annhilation of an ethnic race. The Armenian militias killed anything Turkish, just as the Armenian Diaspora teaches anything Turkish as being evil to refresh the hatred. Hatred is the main reason for all killings. There were 1.3 million Armenians in Ottoman Turkey in 1914, 1.1-1.3 million were living in 1919. Out of 11 million Turks, only 9 million were living.
ataturk2k 4 years ago
Most of the deaths were because of famine, caused by Armenian militias destroying crops, animals and throwing dead bodies in wells to poison the water source. You Decide....
ataturk2k 4 years ago
Armenians were deported into deserts where Turkish troops were waiting to behead the males and steal the females. That is what happened to my family from BURSA and TEKIR DAGH (RODOSTO). Watchmaker uncle and grandfather of my dad were beheaded. Dad's mom sent to harem, escaped. Caravans of camels could not survive the desert death camps! Much less humans! =GENOCIDE++
AstarjianBookFan 4 years ago
Bursa Armenians were not deported. If they went to Syria, who beheaded them? There were not Turkish forces in the South. There were only Kurdish bandits trying to retaliate for the 50,000 Kurds massacred by Armenians. Greeks were not killed. They are the ones that forced a population exchange. My family roamed around for 5 years, 3 countries because of the Armenian mercenaries(Armenians started this whole thing).
ataturk2k 4 years ago
Where was your alleged family from? Some Turks did suffer, but not due to Genocide. There was no government plan against them. Do not compare GENOCIDE to WAR, they are both bad but GENOCIDE is much more sinister, and has no "Geneva convention" rules. Any crime worse than GENOCIDE? Figure it out yet?
AstarjianBookFan 4 years ago
who decides that Turks suffered but not due to genocide. that is the problem!
armenians can't leave the issue to human rights court because they know that result wont be a genocide!
instead you buy congress people to defend your beliefs which doesnt have a scientific value.
nikre 4 years ago
Nearly same thing with my family. 11 were killed. Grand dad and his father only alive. 40 years later grand dad finds out one of his 6 brothers is alive too and lives in Canada. He never could direstly get in touch with him.Only through his daugther, my mom. And mom suffered greatly from the after effects of the genocide.She still is.
kaplyan 4 years ago
cafferty cn eat shit... if hes dumb enough not to understand... does he asks the same question as to why remember the Holocaust??? you dumb fuck, the vote was 27- 21 you dumb ass turks that post here... "democrats and republicans voted against it", more people voted yes than no... you're gonna get what you deserve you pieces of shit
UPOKAU 4 years ago
It was talk like this that started the Armenian hate machine. You can't be real by saying that Armenians, rising up against their government(treachery),slitting their neighbors throats, destorying their food supply, then running off to Europe, Lebanon and the America's, then claiming genocide because you no longer live there. No need for threats, because the Turks already know you're guilty. Use the christian card to your advantage, but good christians no your full of crap.
ataturk2k 4 years ago
And both republicans and democrats voted against it.
bgturk 4 years ago
Big bad PROUD TURK with 85% Armenian blood running through your veins HAPPY that his MONGOL-TURKISH people (5% of your blood) are going to CONTINUE TO GET AWAY with the MURDER and EXPULSION of your daddy people! Nothing like fighting to deny GENOCIDE and obfuscate history! You go girl Turks! Cowards run from YOUR OWN history. FRUITS OF GENOCIDE!
AstarjianBookFan 4 years ago
hey astarcıyan, do you know what astar is?
or astarcı? which language is it? i am talking about your surname.
it's not us ,you are changing history to divide Turkey and nothing can be more hostile.
nikre 4 years ago
Hello Genocide denier! Hey NIKRE: Asultan Abdul Hami'd MOM was 100% Armenian. Your ALPHABET was done by an ARMENIAN Hagop! Your MOSQUES and APRICOT TREES were built and planted with ARMENIAN HANDS. Over 600 words in common TURKISH are from ARMENIAN. Turkish is mainly PERSIAN and ENGLISH and ARABIC and ARMENIAN borrow words.
VANArmenya 4 years ago 2
hi genocide liar, i'm totally happy with my armenian friends, i love them but the diaspora craps everywhere.
i love armenian art.
my point is after 1000 years together how different can we be, but you run after cheap politics, shame on you brother!
nikre 4 years ago
The GENOCIDE is real. You called me a liar. You are the DENIER. I am the truth teller. Look up on google these wo words: UPSHOT SALJUQ (spell it like that) and tell me what year UPSHOT SALJUQ lands you in, and tell me WHO is ARMENIAN. YOU are ARMENIAN by 900 years of stealing ARMENIAN girls and boys! I am your FATHER not brother!
AstarjianBookFan 4 years ago 2
As long as you don't leave this subject to historians or get it to human rights court, noone should even listen to you, you crap from your mouth.
astarcı you can't be a father, there is absolutely a handsome Turkish man married one of your grand* mothers and you had the surname astarcı. but i know that you told that to insult turkish people, ok go on with your wild attitude, we will se what it solves.
nikre 4 years ago
"Turkish is mainly PERSIAN and ENGLISH and ARABIC and ARMENIAN borrow words."
What a jerk!!!
nopupet 4 years ago 2
that's not turkish dumbass, that's ottoman language.
you know nothing about turkish culture. turkish is a pure language but ottoman is contributed from nations within.
idiot.
nikre 4 years ago
turkish comes from mongolia
rapartist43 4 years ago
you have so much to learn from mongols
nikre 4 years ago
rapartist43
And you come from Shakale not from Human? You know NOTHING about 7000 years Turkish History !Thats TRUE
mgekkom 4 years ago
Hello VANArmenya. Armenians lived peacefully within the Ottoman Empire for centuries, and enjoyed prominent role especially in arts. This is a beautiful heritage that I as a Turk happily embrace. It proves that we are bonded throughout history and I hope that one day we will bond again. Just one thing, Turkish is not the language you describe. It's actually in the same language family as Korean.
kokoshmusun 4 years ago
Excellent!!!
insaniz 4 years ago
Thanks for posting this.
bgturk 4 years ago