Of course no plane hit the pentagon, even the 'official eyewitnesses' are hilarious. 'It banked left, no it was right, the plane stayed dead straight, the nose fell off, the delicate nose ploughed through all those walls, the engines entered, no the engines bounced off, impact was at 9.15, no it was 9.40, 'i saw the terrified faces on board', the wings sheared off, hit the ground, folded back, sliced through, the wheels werent down, but they still hit a trailer, ridiculus lies! 9/11= inside job
@wellifthemediasaysit No source given for your witness quotations, rampant spelling and grammatical inaccuracies, no viable alternative theories offered, and quintessential 'truther' lingo everywhere. You won't be changing any serious skeptic's mind any time soon. You might as well have ended your paragraph with "WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!"
@Roobitz in 10 years you paid cointelpro trolls havent offered a shred of evidence that an airliner hit the pentagon except your made up totally contradictory eyewitnesses and your planted shiny AA piece!!! hahaha who the fuck is going to believe that??? cointelpro only get what they pay for i guess!!!
@wellifthemediasaysit If you need someone to hold your hand and lead you to whatever constitutes "evidence" on your planet given your paranoid-delusional worldview, you won't find what you need here. I'm not even an American citizen, let alone whatever the hell a "paid cointelpro" is, but if that makes you feel better, you can just pretend I'm an FBI agent. I would love to hear your airtight theory of what exactly did happen at the Pentagon. Enlighten me.
@Roobitz u and i werent there, clearly there was some sort of explosion, making minimal dmamge, until they blew the roof to try and hide it, but then someone said 'an airliner' hit it, constantly repeated by the media, jeeeez, makes no difference to anyone, no airliner hit it, 9/11 was an inside job and yes your cointelpro, nexy question??
How about the fact that the Unites States needed a unified decision to invade Iraq only because the House of Saud was afraid of Sadaam would invade and take back his breakaway providence of Kuwait. If indeed he did invade the House of Saud he would use all profits from oil drilled in Saudi Arabia to rebuild his land. And there was no way the United States would give up and kind of profits or strangle hold over the oil supply.
why dont they give like 10-15 seconds before the crash, its like video start, pentagon explode... every time they release a video they give like 8 frames and refuse to give anything else except for frames which really don't show you anything. Whats their reason? National Security? You're already releasing the video, what are you so afraid we'll see? Something besides a plane?
All this ranting about how many cameras should be pointed at the Pentagon and nobody seems to care that there were scores of eyewitnesses and obvious airliner debris scattered - and photographed - on the lawn.
Truthers are just looking for a religion substitute: a faith-based belief system in defiance of facts, logic, and probability, that gives them their own "truth" and lets them be special and superior, just like your local church does for other people. Critical thought is forbidden in both.
@carmium Actually, my youth pastor always says, "I don't want you guys to be open minded, because then you start to believe in things that are untrue. I want you to be critical thinkers, I want you to ask tough questions." It's obvious that a plane hit the tower, there's video, there's eyewitnesses. No one can dispute that.
@1996sparkles Yes, it is obvious that planes hit the world trade center towers.... and yes, there were TONS of eye witnesses that saw it happen. The REAL problem is the devious minds behind the plan. No one is disputing the physical fact that planes hit the building...what should be questioned is the motive behind it.
@TheMaxspd Actually, there are people who think that 911 was a hoax. I don't know what reasoning they have behind it. It's like people thinking that the Holocaust didn't happen. I think that they just wanted to attack Americans, make them feel unsafe, and kill as many people as they can. People in the middle east REALLY hate Americans.
The real footage pertaining to the "attack" on the Pentagon are being suppressed! Why did the FBI confiscate all video from nearby businesses? Why has the government not released any of this footage? It is the heart of the military establishment - yet only ONE camera was recording that day? Why have we only been able to see a heavily edited video with just 5 frames? What are they hiding???
@Catandthespoon let me see if i can clear some things up for you but i warn you once i clear these things up you have to say your sorry to everyone. any and all footage would be evidence in any investigation. the FBI by your words would have to be in on it when in fact the FBI investigates federal corruption. the FBI released tapes of the investigation. they picked up almost all of flight 77. there are more than 30 witnesses of the event and one more thing numb nuts luggage tags.
@proslice56 lolol whatever you say. But suppression of evidence is suppression. If they have nothing to hide they should have nothing to fear by disclosing these tapes so they can be properly analysed by 911 scholars . But yeah, I am sorry alright - sorry that people like you would rather have their heads in the sand than seek the truth. Ignorance is bliss eh? It's all those darned Arab's fault. They hate US freedom!!! LOL
@Catandthespoon no asshole it not whatever i say. you are one sick and twisted pos. i had no problem finding a shit load of video showing the wreckage. its people like you that make everything worse because you got a bone to pick with the government. suck any Islamic dick lately. taste like lamb i'll bet. it doesnt matter if you went down there and helped pick up the bodies, you'd still say it was a inside job. keep your conspiracy theories to your self. so when are you going to join Islam.
@proslice56 one more thing dick head. what 911 scholars are you referring to. the truth is something you dont want to believe. stand on your convictions and throw your address out there. those 911 scholars might be trying to get in touch.
@proslice56 I just read the rest of your childlike scrawl and couldn't help but laugh. Clearly you are lowly educated, come from some sh*thole small town and work a menial service like job. Am I correct? You are the ideal propaganda candidate - angry with the world and looking for someone to blame. Hey, how about a culture that is very different to yours? It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Use your brain or be prepared to be a manipulated puppet all your life...
@Catandthespoon You are again being rude, and describing the portrait of a classic conspiracy theorist. Whether you realize it or not, your unwillingness to seek out information that would falsify your own position means you will never move an inch toward gaining a more complete understanding of this issue. You only want to confirm your own suspicions regarding who you feel is responsible. Grow up and stop throwing around petty insults like a child.
@Catandthespoon wow i get it now you live for trying to upset people. you dont care who it hurts you just want to hate. well let me tell you. i'm retired and have more money than god. the whole 911 thing was my idea. i live in a major metropolitan area. and i'm smarter than you in my sleep jerk off. you are absolutely clueless as to how this world works. you are a low life and have no accountability. you declare your intelligent. you are not worth my time low life.
@proslice56 Was that the same Bin Laden who was trained and financed by the American government in the 80's to fight Russia? The same bin Laden family that has financial ties to the Bush family? lolololol
You are a simpleton. No wonder people can get away with such crimes with people like you in the world who just happily believe the bullshit propaganda no questions asked. "Freedom isn't free" LOL
@Catandthespoon you haven't got one intelligent cell in that scull of yours and if you knew what i know you'd feel like a horses ass. you think your so intelligent, you pat yourself on the back thinking you've solved something. you haven't got the power of deductive reasoning. you are scared and pissed off because no one in the government will share details of this with you. you bet bin ladin was. he loved the US when we helped him. when we didn't he blew up the towers in 93. you are a 1/2 wit
@Catandthespoon ya you know freedom isnt free. to bad your not one of the ones paying the price. why don't you throw your address out there so the 911 scholars can find you and help you. i'm sure in your dream world they are real. asshole you have an alternate reality and should seek medical attention. i'll bet your already under the care of a psychiatrist. have them adjust your meds you think way to much of yourself.
bin ladin had a grudge against the USA. bin ladin tried to take out the towers in 93. its easier for you to blame the USA rather than understand that Mohamed ate to much pork and lost his mind and started this stupid religion. now they want to kill everyone that doesn't conform to their way of life. as long as I've got blood in my body i'll be looking for shit like you. child, put away childish things and grow up.
@Catandthespoon "100 hundreds videos pointing at the Pentagon" This is completely wrong. Where is your source for this information? You would be better off asking yourself why conspiracy theorists make up fake statistics whenever they feel like it.
@Roobitz You do not need statistics just an ounce of common sense. The Pentagon is the HQ of the United States Department of Defence, a symbol of American military power, and home to thousands upon thousands of military intelligence secrets. it is arguably the most important building in the US.
Despite that fact, you do find it off that this building only has one piss poor camera recording footage of an entire side?? Give me a break. If you believe that, you are dumber than I thought.
@Catandthespoon I really don't care what you think of me. Common sense, it seems, is not so common anymore, as you failed entirely at providing any source for "100 cameras" claim, as well as altering what you said to "only one" camera, which is also untrue. This isn't a debate about the importance of the Pentagon building, but thanks for stating the obvious. Until you can back up what you say with even a shred of evidence, you can go crawl back into that paranoid delusional hole you came from.
@Roobitz Here are your facts and evidence that you need:
FACT: The Pentagon is the heart of America's military power.
FACT: Several well documented security enhancements have been made including blast-resistant windows—2 inches thick and a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts.
FACT: Every military building or government building in the WORLD has at least a dozen cameras capturing multiple angles of every single inch of their building. No blind spots would be permitted.
@Catandthespoon - It doesn't matter how many cameras I think surround the building, because I'm not the one making unsourced claims that I can't back up. Certainly not 100 cameras all pointing at the exact spot in question. The confiscated footage you are referring to IS this video. It was obtained through a FOIA court injunction. Heavily edited? Another unsourced claim. You have not provided any shred of proof for any of your statements, only your own biased opinion. Insulting me won't help. ;)
@Roobitz I would respect your opinion more if you would answer my questions. Instead all you seem to be able to do is whine about my use of logic and common sense as a replacement for solid evidence because you know that I will never be privy to the security layout at the Pentagon and hence will never be able to "prove" that there is more than one camera on the outside of the Pentagon. Typical straw man argument. It is laughable!
@Catandthespoon So I ask you again. Please answer my questions. If you really are concerned about the truth and not just protecting some government propaganda, you should relish this opportunity for debate. In return, you can ask me anything you want. Unlike deniers, I do not fear the truth!
@Catandthespoon so really what is it dick head your mom have to bribe the kids in the neighborhood with cookies to play with you growing up. was it that you thought all the kids in school were looking at you. you have some dark seated secret with mommy and daddy. maybe your problem is mommy breast feed you to long. and told you stories about the days when her and daddy were arrested. striking a little close to home aint i hoss
I think our government was trying to destroy the pentagon, so that they would have permission to attack them, even more allowance.after all it was Bush in charge....
Humph. This "there was no plane at the Pentagon" myth was busted some time ago. There are still those that want to think it was a missile or something else? OK, sure. It was Santa Claus then, ha ha ha!
"I study Intelligence and Counter-Terrorism at a University level." lolz - you liar, I know my shit and you gave yourself away with that statement (among others in your description) So anything you come out with now is probably a lie also....yes?
@Roobitz dude there are cars speeding by, its not like this camera is taking 1 photo every 2 seconds or something. not too mention all the other evidence that proves the pentagon wasnt hit by a plane
@djphlange Do cars travel at the same speed as planes now? Do security cameras take shots at a sufficient rate per second to capture an object moving as fast as a plane? Can you explain this so-called "other evidence" without referring to secret cameras or supposed "eye-witness" accounts that every other truther seems to like to pull out of thin air to support their case? I'd love to hear what you actually think crashed into your Pentagon if it wasn't Flight 77.
@Roobitz there were no huge parts of a plane, the titianium multiton engines couldnt melt from one explosion that was no where near hot enough to melt even a fraction of these engines, even if they were an explosion hot enough to melt it, it would have to be constant rate, every single pilot has said those moves are impossible to make, no bodies were found, no black box was found. with other plane crashes they have always recovered the black box, these are made to withstand the worst damage ever
In every plane crash regardless of the amount of parts found or not the investigators make a type of jigsaw puzzle on a frame to show why or what went wrong with the plane. In every incidence regarding 9/11 not one plane was put back together they all miraculously vaporized the first planes in history to do this, it's as believable as 3 steel framed skyscrapers collapsing due to fire and one was not even hit bu a plane. Its a fucking joke and an inside job I'm 100% convinced.
Even the former General of American Intelligence states there are inconsistencies in the 'official White House version' of 9/11 events. I posted his interview with about 25 other videos and articles on my website page at: "My Thoughts On 9/11 and False Flag Terrorism- by Bill Woollam" ..Just Google search that...Passing it forward
Out of the entire Pentagon, he makes a 270 degree turn, hugs the ground and hits the re-enforced vacant section......odd huh? And we have two craters, 6 miles apart in PA with no bodies or identifiable debris. You realize this is unprecedented in aircraft history right? And the only 3 steel constructed buildings in history destroyed by fire.......Smells fishy, thats all. But we have the 9/11 omission report that explains it all.
@stingrazor2 If there were other instances of jet liners being crashed into buildings of this size, then you could draw some sort of comparison, but unfortunately there is not, so you cannot claim it is or is not unprecedented. Not finding human remains in a crash of this magnitude is not unusual, and if you think no debris was recovered, you have, unfortunately, been misinformed. Please try to use reputable sources rather than conspiracy websites when researching this.
@Roobitz I was referring to the WTC's burning for such a short period of time before falling. The buildings were designed to withstand a 707 crashing into it at 600 mph. And building 7 falling without being hit at all. It is the first all steel constructed building to fall from a fire in history. Do a little research yourself before just regurgitating the 9/11 commission report. And yes it is unusual not to find human remains at a crash site.
Day before Rumsfeld announces 2.3 unaccounted for in Pentagon budget. Next day, booom, gosh the area of the Pentagon that gets blown up? The computer that tracked financial transactions. How convenient. Only an unskeptical buffoon would believe the government's made up version of what happened.
All I want to know is why, of all the cameras surrounding the pentagon, no other video has been released other than that shitty little video they showed us. You seriously believe that there is no other video out there??????
@LfRIJOL25 Other videos are available, but as with any security camera footage, they have a very low framerate and would still fit your definition of "shitty". If you have evidence of another video in existance, you can file an injunction under the Freedom of Information Act to have it released, but I have not seen such evidence yet, only truther heresy.
@Roobitz No offense but kind of hard to believe that the Pentagon would invest billions of dollars in security only to skimp on cameras with good quality. Odds are all cameras are high definition they just release them at 240p instead of 720p like youtube..you can choose the quality of a video.
@AmericanPoliceState We can guess back and forth about what they may or may not have, but in the end it would only be assumptions. What we do have is THIS video, in the quality we have it. You and I both cannot state anything else with certainty about that without some evidence one way or another regarding Pentagon security.
@Roobitz I know for a fact they most certainly had better angles with the perimeter wall cameras. which do exsist and yes I can prove that they do exsist, I sometimes get wannabe debunkers saying that there were no cameras along the perimeter walls of the pentagon. As for your response I can only say that my statement is deductive reasoning, if you think it through a civilian can buy good quality camera with good resolution for a good price, if that is true imagine what the goverment can afford
@AmericanPoliceState No, you do not know "for a fact". You know because of something you read on the internet which was more than likely incorrect. Send me your source. Maybe you're on the wrong Youtube video or something, but this clip was NOT shot from the Pentagon itself, but from across the road at a hotel, which is clearly stated in the description. Your point about whether or not the Pentagon uses expensive cameras is conjecture, and irrelevant with respect to this video.
@Roobitz Im going to send you the picture of the pentagon wall where the collapse happens and in this photo you will see two cameras along that wall. Since youtube is being a douche and not letting me post the link ill send it to you in a message.
@stingrazor2 Watch the video I link in my description for another good example of what it looks like when a plane hits a solid object. It's easy to picture the hole as being strange because we're used to missile explosion hits that leave a massive hole in the object they impact. Planes are mostly just an aluminum shell and plastic.
@Roobitz you should start goosestepping more proudly. The nazis need more bozos.
Its obvious from the small explosion that no large plane hit there. But, I have you one better than this video. I got it personally from a lead BATF agent who "investigated" and helped tell the big lie, that NO PLANE hit the pentagon. I have an affidavit to a federal judge where he swears he was an investiagtor at that scene. The FACT is, that no 757 hit the Pentagon.
You have resorted to Reductio ad Hitlerum, a poor way to start your argument. Like every truther claim I've seen so far, you present no video evidence of which you speak and claim to know unnamed first-hand sources, but also provide no evidence of that. The fact that your claim hinges on what you say another person witnessed should speak for itself. Eyewitness evidence is extremely poor, and this IS a fact. Until you can produce something to back up your claim I cannot take you seriously.
Why are they going to release a video showing government employee's dying? Thats wrong. It's upsetting to the families of innocent victims, and its just plain stupid. 136 people described a plane hitting the pentagon. Everything gets misquoted for media flare. Are you people too stupid to realize whats going on?
This hype sells papers.
Use common sense. Stop trying to connect everything to conspiracy. 184 people lost their lives.
So they dont want to release video of Government employees dying but then again its ok to show video of the twin towers over and over again. They keep the Pentang "crash" and the one out in the middle of no where very very quiet. No one seems to talk about those very much and thats how they want it out to be. I am not saying that what happened was not a tragedy, I just want to know why the most secure building in the world had no other video evidence ever released.
@LfRIJOL25 Why do you keep repeating the same "no other video ever" thing? Do facts just bounce off of you or are you really completely ignoring what everyone has said to you in this thread? This is NOT the only video that has been released, stop saying it is.
@Roobitz Ok where are all the other videos showing the plane hitting the pentagon. I mean if there are so many out there, please let me know where I can view them. Because it seems you are the one who is getting their panties all in a bunch. A real video, not all blurry or frames, an actual video. Please let me know.
@LfRIJOL25 I'm not here to teach you how to use google. Either way, it wouldn't matter if you did see the videos, because your conspiracy-riddled mind can't accept any fact that contradicts your preconceived idea of what happened at the Pentagon. You've got a bad case of confirmation bias, and nothing I can say to you in a comment box on Youtube is going to change that. To top that off, you don't need to have footage of something to show that it happened, and there is plenty of non-vid evidence.
@MobMain666 - You make a point of not releasing video of government employees dying, but then again why is it ok for the media and government to replay the world trade center over and over again. Come on now, the most guarded place on earth and this is the only video that has been released. They control what you can and cant see. When they release actual video and not frames, then I will apologize and accept my mistakes and realize I was wrong. Until then, I will keep waiting......
@iPissEveryoneOff i dont have to use my brain because i dont speculate at stupid theory's, posed by our government that contradict the scientifically proven facts! so put that in your pipe and smoke it. and there was no plane. wake up you sheep.
@Getdamoneyng0 First of all, what I said is not a theory. Look at the damn pictures. There are pieces of the plane everywhere, along with burnt human flesh. What I said is true.
You know when all of this first happened yea it looked like it could have been some kind of accident when the 1st plane hit the 1st tower in NY but when the second one hit it looked like a terrorist attack but after all of it was done u can tell something wasnt right about what went down I use to live in NY been by the WTC many times and I even been at the citgo this video came from and if it was a plane that hit the pentagon the whole plane should have been seen not no so call small tail wing
Ok, I'll say it all again. Every single 9/11 conspiracy theory has been mathematically, chemically, or physically disproved in one form or another. I don't know why people still listen to this stupid shit. Do some real research, listen to the eyewitnesses..." Oh, all of them are discredited because the government paid them to say it was a 7 fucking 47 flying with the fuselage 2 feet off the ground by a pilot who didnt know how to fly." Fuckin Navy pilots couldn't do that shit.
WTF is this?HAHA.This shit shows less than the other bullshit tape.This shit is a sick joke.They're teasing us.They think this shit is funny.They're fuckin laughin at us.
@Roobitz ..HAHA.Parties.What a joke.Ain't no fuckin parties.There's just one group of assholes pretending to disagree with eachother while partyin with our tax money.
@Roobitz BOTH PARTIES ARE ON THE SAME SIDE...ALWAYS HAVE BEEN...AND ALWAYS WILL BE....ABOUT THE IMPORTANT STUFF.... AND THEY WILL NEVER GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU OR ME.
USA your country has been stolen by the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK since 1913!! Do your research, get angry and stop paying your taxes on mass, storm the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK or vote Ron Paul to kick them out are your only options!!
@GrenadeApple3 I thought I could bring in more visitors to my channel with it or something, but I'm not sure it's working that way. It just tends to attract nutters.
You got an alphabet after your name, academic achievement and lots of recognition for research, but lets talk real world, Science and physics. You can't dispute the facts of scientific evidence. Why does the government not co operate with investigations? The people may never get the truth about 911, but one things for sure, the US Government is not being truthful.
"72 virgins in heaven" ?? The typical Hill Billy ignorance.
I guess it proves how powerful of a tool the idiot box can be on a nation where around 70% of its population don't own a passport. Only then to form an opinion as if its at all credible? Absolutely ridiculous
Individuals on here must think they have it all sussed out. Its hilarious
Turkey April 2010 - dozens of top military and intelligence service personnel have been arrested for their parts in " Operation Sledgehammer ".
Operation Sledgehammer was a plot to lauch a series of terrorist attacks across Turkey culminating in a hijacked plane being crashed in to Istanbul and blaming muslim extremists for the attacks.
The military would then step in to take over at the request of the Turkish People.
@cigpapers I don't see how a plan that didn't happen in another country half way across the globe years AFTER has anything to do with the September 11th attack.
i believe that camera view was cropped before released to the public. Think about it, what was a hotel camera supposed to be aimed at? The parking lot, but it doesn't even have a wide-angle lens! (OR SO IT SEEMS). What a waste of money to setup a camera to watch FIVE cars! ??? The footage was zoomed then cropped to make it look like an authentic video shot. If someone goes there today and looks at it that camera will show more than 5 car spaces.
@offyam Good point, i also thought the vid was zoom-in. Literagation or law suit made this public. Why, i do not know yet...Vid was tampered with, i wonder why?
@MrDoverben22 I can assure you I have not edited this video in any way. If the video was cropped or zoomed, I would assume it would be to highlight where in the video the crash can be seen. This video was obtained by a court injunction via the FOIA.
@Roobitz I am not saying or accuse you of tampering with this vid, but why the zoom-in to high-light the crash, what was the law suit. Why was the allenge crash high-lighted?
@MrDoverben22 For the proper answer to that question, I will have to refer you to the youtube user I originally obtained the video from, "JudicialWatch". Visit their channel and hopefully they can answer your question. :)
@Roobitz Hey, had no luck with "judicialWatch" NO reply. The question still stands, why the zoom-in to high light the crash, what was the law-suit, the legal person who requested this footage due to court order...
Why are they removing forensic evidence from a crime scene? Granted the "C" looks like my company's logo. Plenty of fuselages and retired airplanes out in the desert, therefor not conclusive. Could be planted evidence. SOP is for the National Transportation Safety Board to rent some hangar close by and reconstruct the remains of the airplane. Not done! Why?
99% of every part on a commercial airliner has a clearly marked part number. Show us the parts!
they arent lying. they may be holding information to preserve national security. but a janitor such as youself cannot speculate on what actually happened. just because youve seen a few youtube vids doesnt make you an expert...people like you are terrorists, fucking idiots, making jokes about the people who died in 9/11...you are lower than the terrorists who flew the planes into the twin towers
Its ok, I am not offended, I am just glad to see someone like you who can debate sensibly,The thing is there was so much to gain financially and politically by the us government from the 9/11 attacks, there is much politics that are involved, have you sen the presentation 'blueprint for truth'?
also try and watch something called The truth and lies of 9/11 its by mike ruppert he is an ex lapd officer, he does a seminar about the bush admin and their connections with wall street and..........
he also tells of the real reasons why England and the US are really in Iraq and afghanistan. please watch them they are a few hours long. let me know what you think.
I am not a conspiracy nut But I am someone with a brain and eyesight and I can tell you that there is so much about that day that just does not make sense, and questions need to be answered,why do you think all those architects are demanding an investigation? and now even thr firemen are saying that it was a put up job, they should know better than most.
I'm not trying to insult you. I don't doubt that you have a brain. It doesn't make sense that a group of people would resort to such atrocious and senseless violence because they think it will give them a better spot in heaven. There have been extensive investigations, such as the 9-11 commission (a huge document). Firemen are not the sort of people who you should consult with questions about terrorism, engineering, or jet aircraft. They should be consulted on matters of fire suppression.
doesn't make sense?? your kidding me right ? better go check history bro and even present day n tell me people or groups of money hungry fucks don't kill people for no good reasons but money happened millions of times like ridiculous thing is u believe your own garbage n that people are all the same cuz fuck your in for one brutal wake up call if u believe all that world at peace crap n usa a okay shit
My point was not that it hasn't happened in the past, or that people don't kill for no reason. I'm arguing that the justification for doing it is foolhardy. Thinking you will get 72 virgins in heaven for blowing yourself up is completely retarded. Not sure what you meant by "usa a okay shit" though.
@Roobitz The majority of authors of the 9/11 commission report have stated they believe they didn't receive truthful cooperation. Check out John Farmers book. He was a senior counsel member of the commission and his book addresses how incomplete the work is.
Ive seen the pics of the pentagon before the collapse and after, go on google and type in Pentagon crash site and look at the pics for yourself, or go on my channel and watch my pentagon footage, and try and debunk it if you can!!
How can you debunk someone's subjective opinion of a photograph? Voicing armchair conjecture about photographs is for conspiracy nuts. Conducting tests and examining evidence is for people who know what they're talking about.
Roobitz look at the pictures ok, look at the video footage of the pentagon right after the explosion, the building is still intact with a small hole at the front consistent with the size of a missile, the missile penetrated all five sections and made a small punch out hole, the collapse of the pentagon occured some 25-40 minutes later, there was no plane.
I've seen many photographs of plane debris being cleaned off of the pentagon lawn. They were not doctored and to claim that that debris was deliberately placed there would be foolish. Please check out the video linked in my description of what happens when a plane impacts a large concrete wall - identical to what occurred at the Pentagon. At that speed, an jet aircraft is practically vaporized on impact. Finally, where exactly would a missile have been launched from?
You believe that was plane debris? then why was there big attempts to clean it all up, it was a so say crime scene yet there are videos showing officials(not police or firemen) running round picking up very small pieces, come on are you telling me that three planes on the same day just disappeared in to 3 seperate buildings?where would a missile have been launched ......maybe from one of the rogue jets that were seen that day? or anywhere where they chose to, I have studied 9/11 for 2 years.
All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. Herman Georing Hitlers # 2
Look up pictures of the pentagon, not the day of 9/11 just the building itself. There are cameras all along the top of the building. Do you know what's in the pentagon? The headquarters of the Department of Defense. Do you honestly believe that this billion if not trillion dollar infrastructure isn't well defended? You think we don't have radar in there let alone anti-aircraft defense? And your going to sit there and say we don't have more than five fucking shot's of this supposed plane crash?
Yes. Show me the cameras. You can't do it. That's the think about you truthers, you just spew bullshit you read on some site, but you never source your information. It's just wacky facts. There are plenty of shots of the crash itself. I've seen them, and I have no doubt about what happened. And riddle me this - what exactly do you think was caught on camera that is so mind-blowingly secret that they need to hide the videos from their citizens, but not so secret that they couldn't release a few?
I cant post the link to the pictures obviously so YOU need to go find them YOU need to ask questions. We can't make any good arguments to each other. Nothing you say is effective because there are questions you can't answer. Like why were all 25 "terrorists" living in America years prior to the attacks? And I can't show you hard proof that there are more than 4 camera angles of this "plane crash". So let's just let George take care of this. He flat out lies live on tv YOU look it up. Im done.
Fine, but I'm not defending George. Just because I think this was done by terrorists doesn't mean I don't think he could have done more to stop it from happening. Even if the attacks provided a perfect pretense for an invasion, I still don't think it means they caused them to occur. They just took advantage of the situation they were given.
Ladies and gentlemen keep in mind there are 82 EIGHTY TWO different cameras in this general area recording while a supposed 757 is DESCENDING into the pentagon and yet only 5 FIVE tapes are shown to the public ALL are less than thirty frames and ALL are qualities that hand cameras put to shame, look up tourists videos around the pentagon. Wake up people.
oh my god... are people still talking about this.. Every single conspiracy theory about 9/11 has had the shit debunked out of it. It's really getting old. So many eyewitnesses saw an American Airlines jet hit the pentagon, it's not even funny.
of course "poopjuice" you must be right and anyone questions this is wrong then. when the FBI confiscated tapes are released then maybe that evidence will put it to rest? But... there is a question... why have they not been released? Is it because virtually everything about 911 does not stack up right or do the government think its over and they don't need to prove anything and the public should just except that, and if not... tough shit?
..... Good response, WHOREBOT. I don't get paid by anybody... I actually THINK.. and realize I can be a lot more productive if I simply face reality and not feel the need to argue that everything in existance is a conspiracy designed to further "big brother's" conquest for world domination. There are volumes, and volumes, of evidence supporting that this is what happened, not to mention that it happened in a busy city in broad daylight.. don't ya think ONE person.. perhaps... may have seen it?
@poopjuice0 so many eye witnesses saying they heard bombs go off. So many fireman saying they have never heard of a building coming down faster than the fall of FREE FALLING SPEED.
The man that died of "Heart conditions" after expossing the reason why tower 7 came down in the same manner!
can you debunk that???
Debunk to me the reason why WTC 7 Came down it wasnt hit by a plane yet there were dead burned bodies on the first floor "as if a bomb went of with people in the building"
@Starved4Truth witnesses heard explosions. Fair to say that there were some very large sudden noises that could easily sound like explosions. No building came down faster than free fall, or at free fall at all. The WTC7 guy was with someone else who tells a completely different story and he himself altered his original story later on. Of course the government made him change his story but then had him killed anyway. Big picture thinking is not a truther strongpoint.
@poopjuice0 YOU ARE AN IDIOT... LOL.. The government has gone out of its way to discredit the truth movement with all the stupid crap you've read. LOL. If you can't find the truth in it all, then the government SCREWED YOU! Not the truth movement. We all know 9/11 was an inside job. The government can't take the truth away from those who know it. But they can decceive those like you on the fence who don't understand what is happening to America. So it is you who lost. I'm sorry.
too bad discovery HD was not on the scene then we would have a perfect..im going to look up how many frames per second a typical surveillance camera can record and then i would like to investigate how it could capture an object moving 600+ miles per hour or maybe more...id also have to factor in the fact that the cameras did not know a plane was coming so im sure they were not facing the sky..they probably had about 15-50 solid feet of footage...
id like to know how many frames per second these surveillance cameras are capable of...a plane diving straight down with the "peddle to the floor" would most likely be coming pretty fast, i would think..if the plane had crash landed into the pentagon i could understand that the crater would be i bit more messy and large...but can you imagine the force of a plane diving straight down as fast as it can and than suddenly hitting...im surprised that any peice of the plane was found...
"Go see ScrewLooseChange ,made by people who actually took the time to do their homework or South Park episode 9, Season 10. You'll learn a lot more ...."?
South Park episone 9 is your scientific evidence? You really do your homework, don't you. Do you offer classes?
The theory that the south parking lot and the helipad at the Pentagon did NOT have cameras, after 7 years of retrofit, is insane. You really believe they are that stupid and incompetent? It cost $3k for 16 camera DVR in 2001!
Do you have any real rebuttal to anything presented here? I didn't say South Park was "scientific evidence". No, I don't have classes, but I can school you any day! It doesn't matter how much a camera cost in 2001. Do you have an inventory of the Pentagon's retrofitting tasks? I didn't think so. Yes, I believe they are that stupid and incompetent. The fact that 9/11 happened in the first place is proof positive of their unpreparedness, and that isn't even a half-decent example.
Of course no plane hit the pentagon, even the 'official eyewitnesses' are hilarious. 'It banked left, no it was right, the plane stayed dead straight, the nose fell off, the delicate nose ploughed through all those walls, the engines entered, no the engines bounced off, impact was at 9.15, no it was 9.40, 'i saw the terrified faces on board', the wings sheared off, hit the ground, folded back, sliced through, the wheels werent down, but they still hit a trailer, ridiculus lies! 9/11= inside job
wellifthemediasaysit 1 month ago
@wellifthemediasaysit No source given for your witness quotations, rampant spelling and grammatical inaccuracies, no viable alternative theories offered, and quintessential 'truther' lingo everywhere. You won't be changing any serious skeptic's mind any time soon. You might as well have ended your paragraph with "WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!"
Roobitz 1 month ago
@Roobitz in 10 years you paid cointelpro trolls havent offered a shred of evidence that an airliner hit the pentagon except your made up totally contradictory eyewitnesses and your planted shiny AA piece!!! hahaha who the fuck is going to believe that??? cointelpro only get what they pay for i guess!!!
wellifthemediasaysit 1 month ago
@wellifthemediasaysit If you need someone to hold your hand and lead you to whatever constitutes "evidence" on your planet given your paranoid-delusional worldview, you won't find what you need here. I'm not even an American citizen, let alone whatever the hell a "paid cointelpro" is, but if that makes you feel better, you can just pretend I'm an FBI agent. I would love to hear your airtight theory of what exactly did happen at the Pentagon. Enlighten me.
Roobitz 1 month ago
@Roobitz u and i werent there, clearly there was some sort of explosion, making minimal dmamge, until they blew the roof to try and hide it, but then someone said 'an airliner' hit it, constantly repeated by the media, jeeeez, makes no difference to anyone, no airliner hit it, 9/11 was an inside job and yes your cointelpro, nexy question??
wellifthemediasaysit 1 month ago
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54spence 3 months ago
Why did the FBI fight them in court for this crappy video?
MegaXdsd 4 months ago
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54spence 3 months ago
How about the fact that the Unites States needed a unified decision to invade Iraq only because the House of Saud was afraid of Sadaam would invade and take back his breakaway providence of Kuwait. If indeed he did invade the House of Saud he would use all profits from oil drilled in Saudi Arabia to rebuild his land. And there was no way the United States would give up and kind of profits or strangle hold over the oil supply.
dgalbanjks9691 4 months ago
Why not show the whole video? Im starting to believe this is a conspiracy.
Lemonskill77 4 months ago
why dont they give like 10-15 seconds before the crash, its like video start, pentagon explode... every time they release a video they give like 8 frames and refuse to give anything else except for frames which really don't show you anything. Whats their reason? National Security? You're already releasing the video, what are you so afraid we'll see? Something besides a plane?
eddyteddy33 4 months ago
where's the plane?
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megamogx 4 months ago
didnt see a plane on this footage
QuiteNiceFilms 6 months ago
All this ranting about how many cameras should be pointed at the Pentagon and nobody seems to care that there were scores of eyewitnesses and obvious airliner debris scattered - and photographed - on the lawn.
Truthers are just looking for a religion substitute: a faith-based belief system in defiance of facts, logic, and probability, that gives them their own "truth" and lets them be special and superior, just like your local church does for other people. Critical thought is forbidden in both.
carmium 6 months ago
@carmium Well said.
Roobitz 6 months ago
@carmium I LoVE YOU!! you get it dude. forget reagan your my new hero
agbhawks 4 months ago
@agbhawks from some idiot who loves ronnie raygun, and can't spell you're!!!
nicenonya3 4 months ago
@carmium Actually, my youth pastor always says, "I don't want you guys to be open minded, because then you start to believe in things that are untrue. I want you to be critical thinkers, I want you to ask tough questions." It's obvious that a plane hit the tower, there's video, there's eyewitnesses. No one can dispute that.
1996sparkles 4 months ago
@1996sparkles Yes, it is obvious that planes hit the world trade center towers.... and yes, there were TONS of eye witnesses that saw it happen. The REAL problem is the devious minds behind the plan. No one is disputing the physical fact that planes hit the building...what should be questioned is the motive behind it.
TheMaxspd 3 months ago
@TheMaxspd Actually, there are people who think that 911 was a hoax. I don't know what reasoning they have behind it. It's like people thinking that the Holocaust didn't happen. I think that they just wanted to attack Americans, make them feel unsafe, and kill as many people as they can. People in the middle east REALLY hate Americans.
1996sparkles 3 months ago
@carmium no airliner ever hit the pentagon, you paid cointelpro trolls are getting real desperate now arent you??
wellifthemediasaysit 1 month ago
The real footage pertaining to the "attack" on the Pentagon are being suppressed! Why did the FBI confiscate all video from nearby businesses? Why has the government not released any of this footage? It is the heart of the military establishment - yet only ONE camera was recording that day? Why have we only been able to see a heavily edited video with just 5 frames? What are they hiding???
9/11 = USA insider plot.
Catandthespoon 6 months ago
@Catandthespoon let me see if i can clear some things up for you but i warn you once i clear these things up you have to say your sorry to everyone. any and all footage would be evidence in any investigation. the FBI by your words would have to be in on it when in fact the FBI investigates federal corruption. the FBI released tapes of the investigation. they picked up almost all of flight 77. there are more than 30 witnesses of the event and one more thing numb nuts luggage tags.
proslice56 5 months ago
@proslice56 lolol whatever you say. But suppression of evidence is suppression. If they have nothing to hide they should have nothing to fear by disclosing these tapes so they can be properly analysed by 911 scholars . But yeah, I am sorry alright - sorry that people like you would rather have their heads in the sand than seek the truth. Ignorance is bliss eh? It's all those darned Arab's fault. They hate US freedom!!! LOL
Catandthespoon 5 months ago
@Catandthespoon no asshole it not whatever i say. you are one sick and twisted pos. i had no problem finding a shit load of video showing the wreckage. its people like you that make everything worse because you got a bone to pick with the government. suck any Islamic dick lately. taste like lamb i'll bet. it doesnt matter if you went down there and helped pick up the bodies, you'd still say it was a inside job. keep your conspiracy theories to your self. so when are you going to join Islam.
proslice56 5 months ago
@proslice56 one more thing dick head. what 911 scholars are you referring to. the truth is something you dont want to believe. stand on your convictions and throw your address out there. those 911 scholars might be trying to get in touch.
proslice56 5 months ago
@proslice56 I just read the rest of your childlike scrawl and couldn't help but laugh. Clearly you are lowly educated, come from some sh*thole small town and work a menial service like job. Am I correct? You are the ideal propaganda candidate - angry with the world and looking for someone to blame. Hey, how about a culture that is very different to yours? It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Use your brain or be prepared to be a manipulated puppet all your life...
Catandthespoon 5 months ago
@Catandthespoon You are again being rude, and describing the portrait of a classic conspiracy theorist. Whether you realize it or not, your unwillingness to seek out information that would falsify your own position means you will never move an inch toward gaining a more complete understanding of this issue. You only want to confirm your own suspicions regarding who you feel is responsible. Grow up and stop throwing around petty insults like a child.
Roobitz 5 months ago
@Catandthespoon wow i get it now you live for trying to upset people. you dont care who it hurts you just want to hate. well let me tell you. i'm retired and have more money than god. the whole 911 thing was my idea. i live in a major metropolitan area. and i'm smarter than you in my sleep jerk off. you are absolutely clueless as to how this world works. you are a low life and have no accountability. you declare your intelligent. you are not worth my time low life.
proslice56 5 months ago
@proslice56 Was that the same Bin Laden who was trained and financed by the American government in the 80's to fight Russia? The same bin Laden family that has financial ties to the Bush family? lolololol
You are a simpleton. No wonder people can get away with such crimes with people like you in the world who just happily believe the bullshit propaganda no questions asked. "Freedom isn't free" LOL
Catandthespoon 5 months ago
@Catandthespoon you haven't got one intelligent cell in that scull of yours and if you knew what i know you'd feel like a horses ass. you think your so intelligent, you pat yourself on the back thinking you've solved something. you haven't got the power of deductive reasoning. you are scared and pissed off because no one in the government will share details of this with you. you bet bin ladin was. he loved the US when we helped him. when we didn't he blew up the towers in 93. you are a 1/2 wit
proslice56 5 months ago
@Catandthespoon ya you know freedom isnt free. to bad your not one of the ones paying the price. why don't you throw your address out there so the 911 scholars can find you and help you. i'm sure in your dream world they are real. asshole you have an alternate reality and should seek medical attention. i'll bet your already under the care of a psychiatrist. have them adjust your meds you think way to much of yourself.
proslice56 5 months ago
bin ladin had a grudge against the USA. bin ladin tried to take out the towers in 93. its easier for you to blame the USA rather than understand that Mohamed ate to much pork and lost his mind and started this stupid religion. now they want to kill everyone that doesn't conform to their way of life. as long as I've got blood in my body i'll be looking for shit like you. child, put away childish things and grow up.
proslice56 5 months ago
another shit counter video.
There must have been over 100 hundreds videos pointing at the Pentagon that day. Why don't they release the videos? What don't they want us to see???
Catandthespoon 6 months ago
@Catandthespoon "100 hundreds videos pointing at the Pentagon" This is completely wrong. Where is your source for this information? You would be better off asking yourself why conspiracy theorists make up fake statistics whenever they feel like it.
Roobitz 6 months ago
@Roobitz You do not need statistics just an ounce of common sense. The Pentagon is the HQ of the United States Department of Defence, a symbol of American military power, and home to thousands upon thousands of military intelligence secrets. it is arguably the most important building in the US.
Despite that fact, you do find it off that this building only has one piss poor camera recording footage of an entire side?? Give me a break. If you believe that, you are dumber than I thought.
Catandthespoon 6 months ago
@Catandthespoon I really don't care what you think of me. Common sense, it seems, is not so common anymore, as you failed entirely at providing any source for "100 cameras" claim, as well as altering what you said to "only one" camera, which is also untrue. This isn't a debate about the importance of the Pentagon building, but thanks for stating the obvious. Until you can back up what you say with even a shred of evidence, you can go crawl back into that paranoid delusional hole you came from.
Roobitz 6 months ago
@Roobitz Here are your facts and evidence that you need:
FACT: The Pentagon is the heart of America's military power.
FACT: Several well documented security enhancements have been made including blast-resistant windows—2 inches thick and a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts.
FACT: Every military building or government building in the WORLD has at least a dozen cameras capturing multiple angles of every single inch of their building. No blind spots would be permitted.
Catandthespoon 6 months ago
@Roobitz I have 3 questions for you.
1) How many cameras do you think surround a building as important as the Pentagon?
2) Why do you think security camera footage was confiscated from near by and never released?
3) Why have we only been allowed to see one heavily edited 5 frame video?
You do not have any common sense or any ability to think rationally/critically. Sorry, but it's true...
Catandthespoon 6 months ago
@Catandthespoon - It doesn't matter how many cameras I think surround the building, because I'm not the one making unsourced claims that I can't back up. Certainly not 100 cameras all pointing at the exact spot in question. The confiscated footage you are referring to IS this video. It was obtained through a FOIA court injunction. Heavily edited? Another unsourced claim. You have not provided any shred of proof for any of your statements, only your own biased opinion. Insulting me won't help. ;)
Roobitz 6 months ago
@Roobitz I would respect your opinion more if you would answer my questions. Instead all you seem to be able to do is whine about my use of logic and common sense as a replacement for solid evidence because you know that I will never be privy to the security layout at the Pentagon and hence will never be able to "prove" that there is more than one camera on the outside of the Pentagon. Typical straw man argument. It is laughable!
Catandthespoon 6 months ago
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@Catandthespoon Your silence speaks volumes. You know as well as I do that 911 was an inside job.
Catandthespoon 6 months ago
@Catandthespoon So I ask you again. Please answer my questions. If you really are concerned about the truth and not just protecting some government propaganda, you should relish this opportunity for debate. In return, you can ask me anything you want. Unlike deniers, I do not fear the truth!
Catandthespoon 6 months ago
@Catandthespoon so really what is it dick head your mom have to bribe the kids in the neighborhood with cookies to play with you growing up. was it that you thought all the kids in school were looking at you. you have some dark seated secret with mommy and daddy. maybe your problem is mommy breast feed you to long. and told you stories about the days when her and daddy were arrested. striking a little close to home aint i hoss
proslice56 5 months ago
I think our government was trying to destroy the pentagon, so that they would have permission to attack them, even more allowance.after all it was Bush in charge....
lovelykissing1998 6 months ago
Humph. This "there was no plane at the Pentagon" myth was busted some time ago. There are still those that want to think it was a missile or something else? OK, sure. It was Santa Claus then, ha ha ha!
123MrBurg 7 months ago
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countrycity6 7 months ago
"I study Intelligence and Counter-Terrorism at a University level." lolz - you liar, I know my shit and you gave yourself away with that statement (among others in your description) So anything you come out with now is probably a lie also....yes?
Dogeggz 7 months ago
@kilox10001 You got that right. Look at the comments I've had to deal with so far...
Roobitz 7 months ago
you mean to tell me this camera can pick up trucks moving in the distance close to the pentagon but not a HUGE plane?
djphlange 8 months ago
@djphlange It's not the size, but the speed the object is travelling that matters in this instance.
Roobitz 8 months ago
@Roobitz dude there are cars speeding by, its not like this camera is taking 1 photo every 2 seconds or something. not too mention all the other evidence that proves the pentagon wasnt hit by a plane
djphlange 8 months ago
@djphlange Do cars travel at the same speed as planes now? Do security cameras take shots at a sufficient rate per second to capture an object moving as fast as a plane? Can you explain this so-called "other evidence" without referring to secret cameras or supposed "eye-witness" accounts that every other truther seems to like to pull out of thin air to support their case? I'd love to hear what you actually think crashed into your Pentagon if it wasn't Flight 77.
Roobitz 8 months ago
@Roobitz there were no huge parts of a plane, the titianium multiton engines couldnt melt from one explosion that was no where near hot enough to melt even a fraction of these engines, even if they were an explosion hot enough to melt it, it would have to be constant rate, every single pilot has said those moves are impossible to make, no bodies were found, no black box was found. with other plane crashes they have always recovered the black box, these are made to withstand the worst damage ever
djphlange 8 months ago
@djphlange Every one of those facts has been thoroughly debunked, and if you're simply too lazy to look up how, that's no fault of mine.
Roobitz 8 months ago
@Roobitz Have you seen the cozzy camera footage ?
Or perhaps you can show me proof of two,SIX ton engines !
where are all the bodies ? How did some hijackers survive ? Do you believe in physics ?
Grow a pair and work it out, fannybaws
krs306 8 months ago
In every plane crash regardless of the amount of parts found or not the investigators make a type of jigsaw puzzle on a frame to show why or what went wrong with the plane. In every incidence regarding 9/11 not one plane was put back together they all miraculously vaporized the first planes in history to do this, it's as believable as 3 steel framed skyscrapers collapsing due to fire and one was not even hit bu a plane. Its a fucking joke and an inside job I'm 100% convinced.
giptonsilly 11 months ago
Even the former General of American Intelligence states there are inconsistencies in the 'official White House version' of 9/11 events. I posted his interview with about 25 other videos and articles on my website page at: "My Thoughts On 9/11 and False Flag Terrorism- by Bill Woollam" ..Just Google search that...Passing it forward
Chidanandaji 11 months ago
Out of the entire Pentagon, he makes a 270 degree turn, hugs the ground and hits the re-enforced vacant section......odd huh? And we have two craters, 6 miles apart in PA with no bodies or identifiable debris. You realize this is unprecedented in aircraft history right? And the only 3 steel constructed buildings in history destroyed by fire.......Smells fishy, thats all. But we have the 9/11 omission report that explains it all.
stingrazor2 1 year ago
@stingrazor2 If there were other instances of jet liners being crashed into buildings of this size, then you could draw some sort of comparison, but unfortunately there is not, so you cannot claim it is or is not unprecedented. Not finding human remains in a crash of this magnitude is not unusual, and if you think no debris was recovered, you have, unfortunately, been misinformed. Please try to use reputable sources rather than conspiracy websites when researching this.
Roobitz 1 year ago
@Roobitz I was referring to the WTC's burning for such a short period of time before falling. The buildings were designed to withstand a 707 crashing into it at 600 mph. And building 7 falling without being hit at all. It is the first all steel constructed building to fall from a fire in history. Do a little research yourself before just regurgitating the 9/11 commission report. And yes it is unusual not to find human remains at a crash site.
stingrazor2 1 year ago
@Roobitz So your is exactly what? Two things:one- you can't bullshit yourself. Two- you can bullshit others for so long.
djundadawg 1 year ago
@Roobitz So your point is exactly what? Two things:one- you can't bullshit yourself. Two- you can bullshit others for so long.
djundadawg 1 year ago
ufo ufo ufo thats why you can not find more movies un identifeit object
juggieboy 1 year ago
Day before Rumsfeld announces 2.3 unaccounted for in Pentagon budget. Next day, booom, gosh the area of the Pentagon that gets blown up? The computer that tracked financial transactions. How convenient. Only an unskeptical buffoon would believe the government's made up version of what happened.
Zaxxen69 1 year ago
So bogus.
Zaxxen69 1 year ago
All I want to know is why, of all the cameras surrounding the pentagon, no other video has been released other than that shitty little video they showed us. You seriously believe that there is no other video out there??????
LfRIJOL25 1 year ago
@LfRIJOL25 Other videos are available, but as with any security camera footage, they have a very low framerate and would still fit your definition of "shitty". If you have evidence of another video in existance, you can file an injunction under the Freedom of Information Act to have it released, but I have not seen such evidence yet, only truther heresy.
Roobitz 1 year ago
@Roobitz No offense but kind of hard to believe that the Pentagon would invest billions of dollars in security only to skimp on cameras with good quality. Odds are all cameras are high definition they just release them at 240p instead of 720p like youtube..you can choose the quality of a video.
AmericanPoliceState 1 year ago
@AmericanPoliceState We can guess back and forth about what they may or may not have, but in the end it would only be assumptions. What we do have is THIS video, in the quality we have it. You and I both cannot state anything else with certainty about that without some evidence one way or another regarding Pentagon security.
Roobitz 1 year ago
@Roobitz I know for a fact they most certainly had better angles with the perimeter wall cameras. which do exsist and yes I can prove that they do exsist, I sometimes get wannabe debunkers saying that there were no cameras along the perimeter walls of the pentagon. As for your response I can only say that my statement is deductive reasoning, if you think it through a civilian can buy good quality camera with good resolution for a good price, if that is true imagine what the goverment can afford
AmericanPoliceState 1 year ago
@AmericanPoliceState No, you do not know "for a fact". You know because of something you read on the internet which was more than likely incorrect. Send me your source. Maybe you're on the wrong Youtube video or something, but this clip was NOT shot from the Pentagon itself, but from across the road at a hotel, which is clearly stated in the description. Your point about whether or not the Pentagon uses expensive cameras is conjecture, and irrelevant with respect to this video.
Roobitz 1 year ago
@Roobitz Im going to send you the picture of the pentagon wall where the collapse happens and in this photo you will see two cameras along that wall. Since youtube is being a douche and not letting me post the link ill send it to you in a message.
AmericanPoliceState 1 year ago
@Roobitz Do you guys really believe that a 60 ton jetliner made that small hole and completely disintegrated? It's all just so suspicious .
stingrazor2 1 year ago
@stingrazor2 Watch the video I link in my description for another good example of what it looks like when a plane hits a solid object. It's easy to picture the hole as being strange because we're used to missile explosion hits that leave a massive hole in the object they impact. Planes are mostly just an aluminum shell and plastic.
Roobitz 1 year ago
@Roobitz you should start goosestepping more proudly. The nazis need more bozos.
Its obvious from the small explosion that no large plane hit there. But, I have you one better than this video. I got it personally from a lead BATF agent who "investigated" and helped tell the big lie, that NO PLANE hit the pentagon. I have an affidavit to a federal judge where he swears he was an investiagtor at that scene. The FACT is, that no 757 hit the Pentagon.
politicalprisoner2 1 year ago
You have resorted to Reductio ad Hitlerum, a poor way to start your argument. Like every truther claim I've seen so far, you present no video evidence of which you speak and claim to know unnamed first-hand sources, but also provide no evidence of that. The fact that your claim hinges on what you say another person witnessed should speak for itself. Eyewitness evidence is extremely poor, and this IS a fact. Until you can produce something to back up your claim I cannot take you seriously.
Roobitz 1 year ago
@LfRIJOL25
YEah. there's plenty of them.
Why are they going to release a video showing government employee's dying? Thats wrong. It's upsetting to the families of innocent victims, and its just plain stupid. 136 people described a plane hitting the pentagon. Everything gets misquoted for media flare. Are you people too stupid to realize whats going on?
This hype sells papers.
Use common sense. Stop trying to connect everything to conspiracy. 184 people lost their lives.
Dont wake the dead.
MobMain666 1 year ago
@MobMain666 they didnt mind showing the 3000 die over and over and over andover again in the towers. you need to wake up!
briznell1 1 year ago
@MobMain666
So they dont want to release video of Government employees dying but then again its ok to show video of the twin towers over and over again. They keep the Pentang "crash" and the one out in the middle of no where very very quiet. No one seems to talk about those very much and thats how they want it out to be. I am not saying that what happened was not a tragedy, I just want to know why the most secure building in the world had no other video evidence ever released.
LfRIJOL25 11 months ago
@LfRIJOL25 Why do you keep repeating the same "no other video ever" thing? Do facts just bounce off of you or are you really completely ignoring what everyone has said to you in this thread? This is NOT the only video that has been released, stop saying it is.
Roobitz 8 months ago
@Roobitz Ok where are all the other videos showing the plane hitting the pentagon. I mean if there are so many out there, please let me know where I can view them. Because it seems you are the one who is getting their panties all in a bunch. A real video, not all blurry or frames, an actual video. Please let me know.
LfRIJOL25 8 months ago
@LfRIJOL25 I'm not here to teach you how to use google. Either way, it wouldn't matter if you did see the videos, because your conspiracy-riddled mind can't accept any fact that contradicts your preconceived idea of what happened at the Pentagon. You've got a bad case of confirmation bias, and nothing I can say to you in a comment box on Youtube is going to change that. To top that off, you don't need to have footage of something to show that it happened, and there is plenty of non-vid evidence.
Roobitz 8 months ago
@MobMain666 - You make a point of not releasing video of government employees dying, but then again why is it ok for the media and government to replay the world trade center over and over again. Come on now, the most guarded place on earth and this is the only video that has been released. They control what you can and cant see. When they release actual video and not frames, then I will apologize and accept my mistakes and realize I was wrong. Until then, I will keep waiting......
LfRIJOL25 8 months ago
I understand that the 9-11 Commission Report was made by Charmin toilet suppies.
xxchinookxx 1 year ago
I heard that our government officals are NAZI's but they're not dressed as sharp.
xxchinookxx 1 year ago
NO PLANE!!!!!!!!!!! ITS FUCKING OBVIOUS. THEY LIED TO ALL OF US ON THAT VERY DAY.
Getdamoneyng0 1 year ago
@Getdamoneyng0 Your caps lock key is broken. This is a library. Shhhhhh.
Roobitz 1 year ago 2
@Getdamoneyng0 You idiot, there's no way a crappy security camera can capture a plane moving at 300+ miles per hour.
Put in your brain before you leave a comment.
iPissEveryoneOff 1 year ago 21
@iPissEveryoneOff i dont have to use my brain because i dont speculate at stupid theory's, posed by our government that contradict the scientifically proven facts! so put that in your pipe and smoke it. and there was no plane. wake up you sheep.
Getdamoneyng0 1 year ago
@Getdamoneyng0 First of all, what I said is not a theory. Look at the damn pictures. There are pieces of the plane everywhere, along with burnt human flesh. What I said is true.
Oh, and it's "theories".
iPissEveryoneOff 1 year ago 2
@iPissEveryoneOff. I disagree. The technology in security cameras is just as good as cell phone cameras, and they worked just fine on 9/11.
thisischavez 9 months ago
@iPissEveryoneOff why confiscate footage then?
drewsiboberinski 8 months ago
You know when all of this first happened yea it looked like it could have been some kind of accident when the 1st plane hit the 1st tower in NY but when the second one hit it looked like a terrorist attack but after all of it was done u can tell something wasnt right about what went down I use to live in NY been by the WTC many times and I even been at the citgo this video came from and if it was a plane that hit the pentagon the whole plane should have been seen not no so call small tail wing
tr1ggaman 1 year ago
if you pause 9 seconds into the tape you can see the top of flight 77 its white and you can cleary see its a plane
CptCrunchh 1 year ago
shouldn't the pentagon have hall way security cameras???
showershoo 1 year ago
Ok, I'll say it all again. Every single 9/11 conspiracy theory has been mathematically, chemically, or physically disproved in one form or another. I don't know why people still listen to this stupid shit. Do some real research, listen to the eyewitnesses..." Oh, all of them are discredited because the government paid them to say it was a 7 fucking 47 flying with the fuselage 2 feet off the ground by a pilot who didnt know how to fly." Fuckin Navy pilots couldn't do that shit.
poopjuice0 1 year ago
@poopjuice0 typical brainwashed yank
adi3650 1 year ago
WTF is this?HAHA.This shit shows less than the other bullshit tape.This shit is a sick joke.They're teasing us.They think this shit is funny.They're fuckin laughin at us.
youngdrodeau 1 year ago
@youngdrodeau Who?
Roobitz 1 year ago
@Roobitz ..The govt.
youngdrodeau 1 year ago
@youngdrodeau Both parties? Just looking for some perspective.
Roobitz 1 year ago
@Roobitz ..HAHA.Parties.What a joke.Ain't no fuckin parties.There's just one group of assholes pretending to disagree with eachother while partyin with our tax money.
youngdrodeau 1 year ago
@youngdrodeau HERE...HERE...TO THE TRUTH...AND HOW!
tropophyte 1 year ago
@Roobitz BOTH PARTIES ARE ON THE SAME SIDE...ALWAYS HAVE BEEN...AND ALWAYS WILL BE....ABOUT THE IMPORTANT STUFF.... AND THEY WILL NEVER GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU OR ME.
tropophyte 1 year ago
what does this video prove NOTHING a waist of time no plane hit the pentagon
bushbasher46 1 year ago 2
USA your country has been stolen by the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK since 1913!! Do your research, get angry and stop paying your taxes on mass, storm the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK or vote Ron Paul to kick them out are your only options!!
partysounz 1 year ago
Oh god this vid of you got so many views and the others like 50/100 to max 1000 or something, lol.
GrenadeApple3 1 year ago
@GrenadeApple3 I thought I could bring in more visitors to my channel with it or something, but I'm not sure it's working that way. It just tends to attract nutters.
Roobitz 1 year ago
You got an alphabet after your name, academic achievement and lots of recognition for research, but lets talk real world, Science and physics. You can't dispute the facts of scientific evidence. Why does the government not co operate with investigations? The people may never get the truth about 911, but one things for sure, the US Government is not being truthful.
OlBlueshound 1 year ago
"72 virgins in heaven" ?? The typical Hill Billy ignorance.
I guess it proves how powerful of a tool the idiot box can be on a nation where around 70% of its population don't own a passport. Only then to form an opinion as if its at all credible? Absolutely ridiculous
Individuals on here must think they have it all sussed out. Its hilarious
20lonDon20 1 year ago
Turkey April 2010 - dozens of top military and intelligence service personnel have been arrested for their parts in " Operation Sledgehammer ".
Operation Sledgehammer was a plot to lauch a series of terrorist attacks across Turkey culminating in a hijacked plane being crashed in to Istanbul and blaming muslim extremists for the attacks.
The military would then step in to take over at the request of the Turkish People.
Anyone recognise the plot?
cigpapers 1 year ago
@cigpapers I don't see how a plan that didn't happen in another country half way across the globe years AFTER has anything to do with the September 11th attack.
Roobitz 1 year ago
@Roobitz of course you dont your real name is helen keller
chaosad09 1 year ago
@chaosad09 - Pretty sad when someone who is both deaf and blind can see better than you can.
Roobitz 1 year ago
i believe that camera view was cropped before released to the public. Think about it, what was a hotel camera supposed to be aimed at? The parking lot, but it doesn't even have a wide-angle lens! (OR SO IT SEEMS). What a waste of money to setup a camera to watch FIVE cars! ??? The footage was zoomed then cropped to make it look like an authentic video shot. If someone goes there today and looks at it that camera will show more than 5 car spaces.
offyam 1 year ago
@offyam Good point, i also thought the vid was zoom-in. Literagation or law suit made this public. Why, i do not know yet...Vid was tampered with, i wonder why?
MrDoverben22 1 year ago
@MrDoverben22 I can assure you I have not edited this video in any way. If the video was cropped or zoomed, I would assume it would be to highlight where in the video the crash can be seen. This video was obtained by a court injunction via the FOIA.
Roobitz 1 year ago
@Roobitz I am not saying or accuse you of tampering with this vid, but why the zoom-in to high-light the crash, what was the law suit. Why was the allenge crash high-lighted?
MrDoverben22 1 year ago
@MrDoverben22 For the proper answer to that question, I will have to refer you to the youtube user I originally obtained the video from, "JudicialWatch". Visit their channel and hopefully they can answer your question. :)
Roobitz 1 year ago
@Roobitz Thanks, will ask this dude why.
MrDoverben22 1 year ago
@Roobitz Hey, had no luck with "judicialWatch" NO reply. The question still stands, why the zoom-in to high light the crash, what was the law-suit, the legal person who requested this footage due to court order...
MrDoverben22 1 year ago
y not just slide down the buildings?
pandadust1 1 year ago
Might be a bit steep...
Roobitz 1 year ago
Why are they removing forensic evidence from a crime scene? Granted the "C" looks like my company's logo. Plenty of fuselages and retired airplanes out in the desert, therefor not conclusive. Could be planted evidence. SOP is for the National Transportation Safety Board to rent some hangar close by and reconstruct the remains of the airplane. Not done! Why?
99% of every part on a commercial airliner has a clearly marked part number. Show us the parts!
Lying Ratbastards!, we will hang you!
musolinilampost 1 year ago
they arent lying. they may be holding information to preserve national security. but a janitor such as youself cannot speculate on what actually happened. just because youve seen a few youtube vids doesnt make you an expert...people like you are terrorists, fucking idiots, making jokes about the people who died in 9/11...you are lower than the terrorists who flew the planes into the twin towers
j0bn0ckey 1 year ago
It was operation Northwoods.
bigmuso1 1 year ago
Its ok, I am not offended, I am just glad to see someone like you who can debate sensibly,The thing is there was so much to gain financially and politically by the us government from the 9/11 attacks, there is much politics that are involved, have you sen the presentation 'blueprint for truth'?
also try and watch something called The truth and lies of 9/11 its by mike ruppert he is an ex lapd officer, he does a seminar about the bush admin and their connections with wall street and..........
bigmuso1 1 year ago
he also tells of the real reasons why England and the US are really in Iraq and afghanistan. please watch them they are a few hours long. let me know what you think.
bigmuso1 1 year ago
I am not a conspiracy nut But I am someone with a brain and eyesight and I can tell you that there is so much about that day that just does not make sense, and questions need to be answered,why do you think all those architects are demanding an investigation? and now even thr firemen are saying that it was a put up job, they should know better than most.
bigmuso1 1 year ago
I'm not trying to insult you. I don't doubt that you have a brain. It doesn't make sense that a group of people would resort to such atrocious and senseless violence because they think it will give them a better spot in heaven. There have been extensive investigations, such as the 9-11 commission (a huge document). Firemen are not the sort of people who you should consult with questions about terrorism, engineering, or jet aircraft. They should be consulted on matters of fire suppression.
Roobitz 1 year ago
doesn't make sense?? your kidding me right ? better go check history bro and even present day n tell me people or groups of money hungry fucks don't kill people for no good reasons but money happened millions of times like ridiculous thing is u believe your own garbage n that people are all the same cuz fuck your in for one brutal wake up call if u believe all that world at peace crap n usa a okay shit
JOEYAKING 1 year ago
My point was not that it hasn't happened in the past, or that people don't kill for no reason. I'm arguing that the justification for doing it is foolhardy. Thinking you will get 72 virgins in heaven for blowing yourself up is completely retarded. Not sure what you meant by "usa a okay shit" though.
Roobitz 1 year ago
@Roobitz The majority of authors of the 9/11 commission report have stated they believe they didn't receive truthful cooperation. Check out John Farmers book. He was a senior counsel member of the commission and his book addresses how incomplete the work is.
nordbergsongs 1 year ago
Thanks, I will definitely have to check that out sometime.
Roobitz 1 year ago
Ive seen the pics of the pentagon before the collapse and after, go on google and type in Pentagon crash site and look at the pics for yourself, or go on my channel and watch my pentagon footage, and try and debunk it if you can!!
bigmuso1 1 year ago
How can you debunk someone's subjective opinion of a photograph? Voicing armchair conjecture about photographs is for conspiracy nuts. Conducting tests and examining evidence is for people who know what they're talking about.
Roobitz 1 year ago
Roobitz look at the pictures ok, look at the video footage of the pentagon right after the explosion, the building is still intact with a small hole at the front consistent with the size of a missile, the missile penetrated all five sections and made a small punch out hole, the collapse of the pentagon occured some 25-40 minutes later, there was no plane.
bigmuso1 1 year ago
I've seen many photographs of plane debris being cleaned off of the pentagon lawn. They were not doctored and to claim that that debris was deliberately placed there would be foolish. Please check out the video linked in my description of what happens when a plane impacts a large concrete wall - identical to what occurred at the Pentagon. At that speed, an jet aircraft is practically vaporized on impact. Finally, where exactly would a missile have been launched from?
Roobitz 1 year ago
You believe that was plane debris? then why was there big attempts to clean it all up, it was a so say crime scene yet there are videos showing officials(not police or firemen) running round picking up very small pieces, come on are you telling me that three planes on the same day just disappeared in to 3 seperate buildings?where would a missile have been launched ......maybe from one of the rogue jets that were seen that day? or anywhere where they chose to, I have studied 9/11 for 2 years.
bigmuso1 1 year ago
All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. Herman Georing Hitlers # 2
85Tourist 1 year ago 2
Look up pictures of the pentagon, not the day of 9/11 just the building itself. There are cameras all along the top of the building. Do you know what's in the pentagon? The headquarters of the Department of Defense. Do you honestly believe that this billion if not trillion dollar infrastructure isn't well defended? You think we don't have radar in there let alone anti-aircraft defense? And your going to sit there and say we don't have more than five fucking shot's of this supposed plane crash?
MrMetalLife 1 year ago
Yes. Show me the cameras. You can't do it. That's the think about you truthers, you just spew bullshit you read on some site, but you never source your information. It's just wacky facts. There are plenty of shots of the crash itself. I've seen them, and I have no doubt about what happened. And riddle me this - what exactly do you think was caught on camera that is so mind-blowingly secret that they need to hide the videos from their citizens, but not so secret that they couldn't release a few?
Roobitz 1 year ago
I cant post the link to the pictures obviously so YOU need to go find them YOU need to ask questions. We can't make any good arguments to each other. Nothing you say is effective because there are questions you can't answer. Like why were all 25 "terrorists" living in America years prior to the attacks? And I can't show you hard proof that there are more than 4 camera angles of this "plane crash". So let's just let George take care of this. He flat out lies live on tv YOU look it up. Im done.
MrMetalLife 1 year ago
Fine, but I'm not defending George. Just because I think this was done by terrorists doesn't mean I don't think he could have done more to stop it from happening. Even if the attacks provided a perfect pretense for an invasion, I still don't think it means they caused them to occur. They just took advantage of the situation they were given.
Roobitz 1 year ago
Ladies and gentlemen keep in mind there are 82 EIGHTY TWO different cameras in this general area recording while a supposed 757 is DESCENDING into the pentagon and yet only 5 FIVE tapes are shown to the public ALL are less than thirty frames and ALL are qualities that hand cameras put to shame, look up tourists videos around the pentagon. Wake up people.
MrMetalLife 1 year ago
Oh hey, the 82 cameras fallacy is back. Name the locations of all 82 cameras. Go.
Roobitz 1 year ago
oh my god... are people still talking about this.. Every single conspiracy theory about 9/11 has had the shit debunked out of it. It's really getting old. So many eyewitnesses saw an American Airlines jet hit the pentagon, it's not even funny.
poopjuice0 1 year ago
of course "poopjuice" you must be right and anyone questions this is wrong then. when the FBI confiscated tapes are released then maybe that evidence will put it to rest? But... there is a question... why have they not been released? Is it because virtually everything about 911 does not stack up right or do the government think its over and they don't need to prove anything and the public should just except that, and if not... tough shit?
mindlepin 1 year ago
ok...but what happened to wtc 7.. why was it not even mentioned in the official report?
sammysnakejones 1 year ago
@poopjuice0 thank u some1 smart
poppa108 1 year ago
@poopjuice0 you idiot
danconway1978 1 year ago
Fantastic comeback. Brilliant... Anything else?
poopjuice0 1 year ago
@poopjuice0 shut up you fukin troll...how much do they pay you to spam the internet with bullshit? Burn in hell
whorebot325 1 year ago
..... Good response, WHOREBOT. I don't get paid by anybody... I actually THINK.. and realize I can be a lot more productive if I simply face reality and not feel the need to argue that everything in existance is a conspiracy designed to further "big brother's" conquest for world domination. There are volumes, and volumes, of evidence supporting that this is what happened, not to mention that it happened in a busy city in broad daylight.. don't ya think ONE person.. perhaps... may have seen it?
poopjuice0 1 year ago
@poopjuice0 so many eye witnesses saying they heard bombs go off. So many fireman saying they have never heard of a building coming down faster than the fall of FREE FALLING SPEED.
The man that died of "Heart conditions" after expossing the reason why tower 7 came down in the same manner!
can you debunk that???
Debunk to me the reason why WTC 7 Came down it wasnt hit by a plane yet there were dead burned bodies on the first floor "as if a bomb went of with people in the building"
Starved4Truth 1 year ago
@Starved4Truth witnesses heard explosions. Fair to say that there were some very large sudden noises that could easily sound like explosions. No building came down faster than free fall, or at free fall at all. The WTC7 guy was with someone else who tells a completely different story and he himself altered his original story later on. Of course the government made him change his story but then had him killed anyway. Big picture thinking is not a truther strongpoint.
ODN67 1 year ago
@poopjuice0 thats wat they were told to say dumbass my friends mom said fbi threatened people
TyeDye07 1 year ago
@poopjuice0 YOU ARE AN IDIOT... LOL.. The government has gone out of its way to discredit the truth movement with all the stupid crap you've read. LOL. If you can't find the truth in it all, then the government SCREWED YOU! Not the truth movement. We all know 9/11 was an inside job. The government can't take the truth away from those who know it. But they can decceive those like you on the fence who don't understand what is happening to America. So it is you who lost. I'm sorry.
tropophyte 1 year ago
therre are no liars in heaven
pandadust1 1 year ago
there is no heaven in lies
Thank you for the zen moment.
Roobitz 1 year ago
there are liars
but there is no heaven.
TheSantangeloo 1 year ago 2
where is the plane before the explosion einstein? the plane is enormous and cant be seen anywhere near that explosion...engage brain./
mojopin70 1 year ago
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VCat2006 1 year ago
too bad discovery HD was not on the scene then we would have a perfect..im going to look up how many frames per second a typical surveillance camera can record and then i would like to investigate how it could capture an object moving 600+ miles per hour or maybe more...id also have to factor in the fact that the cameras did not know a plane was coming so im sure they were not facing the sky..they probably had about 15-50 solid feet of footage...
manichh1 2 years ago 2
This.
420Guitar420 2 years ago
id like to know how many frames per second these surveillance cameras are capable of...a plane diving straight down with the "peddle to the floor" would most likely be coming pretty fast, i would think..if the plane had crash landed into the pentagon i could understand that the crater would be i bit more messy and large...but can you imagine the force of a plane diving straight down as fast as it can and than suddenly hitting...im surprised that any peice of the plane was found...
manichh1 2 years ago
"Go see ScrewLooseChange ,made by people who actually took the time to do their homework or South Park episode 9, Season 10. You'll learn a lot more ...."?
South Park episone 9 is your scientific evidence? You really do your homework, don't you. Do you offer classes?
The theory that the south parking lot and the helipad at the Pentagon did NOT have cameras, after 7 years of retrofit, is insane. You really believe they are that stupid and incompetent? It cost $3k for 16 camera DVR in 2001!
superiorgreen 2 years ago
Do you have any real rebuttal to anything presented here? I didn't say South Park was "scientific evidence". No, I don't have classes, but I can school you any day! It doesn't matter how much a camera cost in 2001. Do you have an inventory of the Pentagon's retrofitting tasks? I didn't think so. Yes, I believe they are that stupid and incompetent. The fact that 9/11 happened in the first place is proof positive of their unpreparedness, and that isn't even a half-decent example.
Roobitz 2 years ago
There are as many as 85 unreleased video tapes. April Gallop worked in the Pentagon and is suing for the rele