I've heard that this Thorens and the Garrard 301's and 401's sound great even though they use an idler drive system. I can hear it but I don't get it. Can you explain?
@49kasey I don't know exactly how to answer that. They probably shouldn't sound better. The idler wheel does transfer a lot of the motor noise. All I can think of is they all have very heavy platters and they put a lot of work into the spindle bearings. On the Thorens, they have a aluminum sub-platter the sits on rubber biscuits to isolate it a little more from the motor. I think the biggest thing was being able to mount your own tonearm and get the geometry dialed in.
@n7ksi No, it's not about the tonearm. I don't know what cartridge you are using but there's an extraordinary solidity about the sound that suggests heavyness and stability. So like you say, it must be the rubber biscuits combined with the very heavy platter.
That has inspired me to not only listen to Monk for the first time but also to go out and pay quite handsomely for a Thorens TD-124 set up with SME 3009 Tonearm ........beautiful music on a beautiful system...........thank you
Yes definitely. I use that all the time. It's a great feature. Once you get that heavy patter going, it's best just to keep everything spinning.
I originally made this because people were giving me advice on how to restore it. One of the tests was the spin up time. It was taking 45 seconds to come up to speed. Now, after all the cleaning and repair/replacements, it takes about 1 revolution. So I did this video to show those people helping me the results.
what cartridge are you using? also are you using the computer to eq this lp? If so what curve did you apply? Sounds better than any version I have heard yet.
I'm using a Dennon D103R Cartridge going into a NAD PP-2 preamp. It's line level at that point and I went into an EMU-1616m sound card (you can see it up behind the tonearm).
That's were I usually record my albums and digitize them with Sony Sound Forge and store them on the external HD there on top of the sound card. But in this case I used the mixer of the sound card to mix in a microphone to catch the room noise and sending it to my second computer with a ATI TV tuner card. Then I'm using the ATI software to capture the audio and the video out of the camera. So I'm not doing any EQ. I'm just using the first computer as a mixer.
Hey, I hit the right thing this time. Sorry about deleting you comment. That's Prestige PRLP 142.
It's from 2 different sessions. Side one was recorded in Oct '52 and has Gary Mapp on Bass and Art Blakey on Drums. Side two was done in Dec. '52 with Max Roach on Drums. It definitely has a different sound from side to side.
I've heard that this Thorens and the Garrard 301's and 401's sound great even though they use an idler drive system. I can hear it but I don't get it. Can you explain?
49kasey 9 months ago
@49kasey I don't know exactly how to answer that. They probably shouldn't sound better. The idler wheel does transfer a lot of the motor noise. All I can think of is they all have very heavy platters and they put a lot of work into the spindle bearings. On the Thorens, they have a aluminum sub-platter the sits on rubber biscuits to isolate it a little more from the motor. I think the biggest thing was being able to mount your own tonearm and get the geometry dialed in.
n7ksi 9 months ago
@n7ksi No, it's not about the tonearm. I don't know what cartridge you are using but there's an extraordinary solidity about the sound that suggests heavyness and stability. So like you say, it must be the rubber biscuits combined with the very heavy platter.
49kasey 9 months ago
That has inspired me to not only listen to Monk for the first time but also to go out and pay quite handsomely for a Thorens TD-124 set up with SME 3009 Tonearm ........beautiful music on a beautiful system...........thank you
2mod4wdz 1 year ago
Of course if you want it to start really fast you can use the slip clutch on the left side of the platter.
gotham61 1 year ago
@gotham61
Yes definitely. I use that all the time. It's a great feature. Once you get that heavy patter going, it's best just to keep everything spinning.
I originally made this because people were giving me advice on how to restore it. One of the tests was the spin up time. It was taking 45 seconds to come up to speed. Now, after all the cleaning and repair/replacements, it takes about 1 revolution. So I did this video to show those people helping me the results.
n7ksi 1 year ago
damn the sounds good even over crappy stream what needle/cart/arm?
great work
tekjansenn 1 year ago
You reproduce the music very well. I would like
to hear other music by your TD124.
rennoske 2 years ago
what cartridge are you using? also are you using the computer to eq this lp? If so what curve did you apply? Sounds better than any version I have heard yet.
Thanks for the post!!!!
David
peterarena1 2 years ago
Thanks David,
I'm using a Dennon D103R Cartridge going into a NAD PP-2 preamp. It's line level at that point and I went into an EMU-1616m sound card (you can see it up behind the tonearm).
n7ksi 2 years ago
That's were I usually record my albums and digitize them with Sony Sound Forge and store them on the external HD there on top of the sound card. But in this case I used the mixer of the sound card to mix in a microphone to catch the room noise and sending it to my second computer with a ATI TV tuner card. Then I'm using the ATI software to capture the audio and the video out of the camera. So I'm not doing any EQ. I'm just using the first computer as a mixer.
Thanks for the comment
Mike
n7ksi 2 years ago
And will you please tell me the name of the tonearm, too?
rennoske 2 years ago
What is the Prestige LP number?
kulenrok 2 years ago
Hey, I hit the right thing this time. Sorry about deleting you comment. That's Prestige PRLP 142.
It's from 2 different sessions. Side one was recorded in Oct '52 and has Gary Mapp on Bass and Art Blakey on Drums. Side two was done in Dec. '52 with Max Roach on Drums. It definitely has a different sound from side to side.
n7ksi 2 years ago
you have a superb turntable love to find one the lp is superb too cheers
vieuxson 3 years ago
Proof that most music comes out better on vinyl.
fatcatbuzz 2 years ago 2
One of the greatest tables of all time, meet one of the greatest pianists of all time.
kompulsive 3 years ago