Hmm the top rated comments have nothing to do with the video shown, ironically 9/11 is only mentioned in passing in this interview and not actually discussed. Must be the result of an organised effort of Jim Fetzer haters who posted this video on some "debunkers" forum.
If there's any criticism to be done here it should be reserved for the interviewer who constantly interrupts Fetzer in an effort to prove that he's educated and intelligent too.
Fascism always does that. The excuse is that there is an enemy that we all have to line up against. Terrorism has created this climate. The psychological atmosphere around is permeated with these fears and quick solutions.
"The events in downtown Manhattan created this Patriot Act, which was rushed through and puts the Bill of Rights in further shreds -- beyond what had already been done to it. And there is a faction of the "ownership class" in this country that would like to restrict all of our liberties. They need to make us free enough to go to the mall and buy their garbage. But pin us down and lock us down enough so that we are controllable.
"the problem is the reality is those who have the power are focusing on benefiting a very small group; they're committed to a moral philosophy known as limited utilitarianism where you measure the rightness and wrong-ness of an action by its potential that'd benefit you and the members of your group regardless of the consequences for others.
@MsgtSpook let's hear those phoney physics, huh? what do you got? drunken old fraud?
i challenge YOU, faggot, to point to a credible, scientific, PEER REVIEWED account of a single example in which aluminum could SLICE through steel as it it were butter.
you even barely got your diploma, shut the fuck up.
It’s a good thing lead is so soft and bone is so hard, otherwise guns could really hurt somebody.
Just further proof that the ignorant kids in the Truther Cult were all jerking off in the bathroom when they should have been sitting in a science class.
Randi has given most of his money away, endowing foundations that expose fraudulent bullshit like the Truthy cult.
Unlike Fetzer and Jones, who know nothing at all about engineering, are too stupid to learn, but still make a fortune pimping books and videos to uneducated little suckers.
@bendtx "something tells me the doc was baked for this interview"
That's his normal condition. He shows up for almost every appearance about half-stewed, smelling like he spent the night in the Jack Daniels factory.
But Alex Jones & the rest of the conspiracy pimps know that all they have to do is buy him a bottle, wind him up, and he'll perform his little trained-seal act, babbling about science & engineering he knows nothing about.
Has anyone else noticed how the top two comments and those other two thumbed up below are writted in a VERY similar manner? The shill mafias been workin hard here i see
Fetzer has NO science degrees at all, just in history & philosophy.
Believes 8 + gunmen were in Dealey Plaza, huge govt plot
He believes moon landing was a fake
Believes "directed energy wpns" brought down the WTC.
Used to be a no-planer, probably still is.
The senile old fraud isn't even qualified to discuss engineering, but the Truthy cult still humps his leg, since they are as poorly educated in science as Fetzer.
"You still can't get around the fact that this old fraud hasn't got any credentials in ANY science, let alone engineering, but still passes himself off as having knowledge & skill in analyzing structural failures"
Why would anyone ask a computer geek to analyze a structural engineering issue?
Of course since they can't find any structural engineers who will embarrass themselves by publishing a paper supporting this silly shit, the Truthies have to scrounge up whatever nutjob is for sale.
Why is anyone even listening to this ass-clown, whose only education or experience has been as a computer software geek? His lucrative sideline for decades has been selling every crackpot conspiracy theory he can find, to any uneducated sucker with a buck.
He thinks Lee Harvey Oswald had a twin that shot JFK, believes 8+ gunmen were in Dealey Plaza, believes the moon landing was a fake, & believes "directed energy weapons" brought down the WTC.
what the fuck is this ? a CIA posting community/classroom exercise in disinfo? class dismissed--last ten posters against truth: take your shit out of your hats--games over. The people are waking up .
Hard to believe this phony piece of crap is still making money pimping conspiracies to the gullible illiterate.
Considering he hasn't got a trace of credentials in any hard science, let alone structural mechanics, his opinion about the collapse of WTC is about as valuable as the janitor's.
He's been promising his adoring followers for years that he's on the verge of publishing in an academic journal to "prove" this nonsense. Still waiting, but SciAM & Jrnl of Engrg Mechanics are, too.
Fetzer's apologists can parse phrases til they're blue in the fucking face --
You still can't get around the fact that this old fraud hasn't got any credentials in ANY science, let alone engineering, but still passes himself off as having knowledge & skill in analyzing structural failures.
Yeah, like my janitor. And neither does his ludicrous "collaborator," Griffin -- a fucking Theology professor !
Small wonder that no published structural engineering paper on the subject backs him.
Did you ever ask yourself why, in ten years, this group of "scientists" hasn't produced a single piece of paper published in any engineering journal?
What, exactly, is their problem? In science & engineering you publish your research, or you publish criticism of the research of others. This is how it works.
On the other hand, if you're just an unqualified dipshit, you just post on Youtube or other half-assed websites.
You might also ask why this old fool Fetzer, who never had an engineering class in his life, feels qualified to pontificate on structural engineering & demolition, when he has no credentials in either field.
Don't they have any real engineers? Or are they too busy adjusting their tinfoil hats?
The government never used deductive reasoning to state their explanation of 9/11 - they used inductive reasoning. Otherwise, there would still be an open investigation. Spare us the Socratic Method lecture, my good man. It's so simple.
They suppose that culture consists of discrete informational instructions that are transferred from "head to head"and replicated -- this makes culture a primarily mentalistic notion, based on an overextenion of computer and information theoretic metaphors and neglects the lived contexts of the body in the environment.
But does culture consist of discrete informational instructions that are passed from head to head? Probably not. If it did you would see lots of identical behaviors and identical expression of thought, when you do not -- you see similarity. Learning would be much easier and more routine if it were a simple replication or information transfer process. What consists of a discrete bundle that is transferred.
Most notions and behaviors are dependent on others and exist in a dependent network, so there can be no atomic transfers-- there are no "irreducible" elements of culture.
Ok you make some good points. But is it fair to assume that the informational structures which are transferred are near perfect replications (like genes). Couldn't memetic transfer involve vaguer notions of resemblance such as isomorphic relations which hold on some levels but not others?
Hmm the top rated comments have nothing to do with the video shown, ironically 9/11 is only mentioned in passing in this interview and not actually discussed. Must be the result of an organised effort of Jim Fetzer haters who posted this video on some "debunkers" forum.
If there's any criticism to be done here it should be reserved for the interviewer who constantly interrupts Fetzer in an effort to prove that he's educated and intelligent too.
JonesTarpley 3 months ago
The Postmodernism Generator is a computer program that automatically generates postmodern essays. Gramatically correct but meaningless.
Now watch a college gaduate reviewing a computer generated essay. He has no clue of its true origin.
A must see.
/watch?v=jxQ7rONF5iE
verwoestijning 4 months ago
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Fetzer has NO science degrees at all, just in history & "philosophy of science."
Believes 8 + gunmen were in Dealey Plaza, huge govt plot
Believes moon landing was a fake
Believes "directed energy wpns" brought down the WTC.
No wonder the Truthies hump his leg. He's as loony as they are.
blueshark69 5 months ago
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Fascism always does that. The excuse is that there is an enemy that we all have to line up against. Terrorism has created this climate. The psychological atmosphere around is permeated with these fears and quick solutions.
concussedcarneous 8 months ago
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"The events in downtown Manhattan created this Patriot Act, which was rushed through and puts the Bill of Rights in further shreds -- beyond what had already been done to it. And there is a faction of the "ownership class" in this country that would like to restrict all of our liberties. They need to make us free enough to go to the mall and buy their garbage. But pin us down and lock us down enough so that we are controllable.
concussedcarneous 8 months ago
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"the problem is the reality is those who have the power are focusing on benefiting a very small group; they're committed to a moral philosophy known as limited utilitarianism where you measure the rightness and wrong-ness of an action by its potential that'd benefit you and the members of your group regardless of the consequences for others.
where is the contradiction?
concussedcarneous 8 months ago
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14 people who disliked this video were looking for James Randy?
isn't randy all about money? critical thinking, right... but you're not allowed to study simple fucking physics.
concussedcarneous 8 months ago
@concussedcarneous "you're not allowed to study simple fucking physics"
Only some ignorant teenage Truther would swallow the phony "physics" pimped by this drunken old fraud, who never took a science class in his life.
But since Truthies never took any science either, they can't tell the difference between a physicist and a ditchdigger.
MsgtSpook 8 months ago 4
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@MsgtSpook let's hear those phoney physics, huh? what do you got? drunken old fraud?
i challenge YOU, faggot, to point to a credible, scientific, PEER REVIEWED account of a single example in which aluminum could SLICE through steel as it it were butter.
you even barely got your diploma, shut the fuck up.
concussedcarneous 8 months ago
@concussedcarneous "you even barely got your diploma"
It's always easy to spot you posers that never took a Physics class in your life.
So your considered scientific opinion is that soft things can't damage hard things? Is that simple-minded enough for you?
Amazing how water and air destroy whole buildings and cities, or how paint guns drive paint right through skin on injection injuries.
Or do you think aluminum is softer than water or air?
BlazingFerret 8 months ago 4
@BlazingFerret "soft things can't damage hard things?"
It’s a good thing lead is so soft and bone is so hard, otherwise guns could really hurt somebody.
Just further proof that the ignorant kids in the Truther Cult were all jerking off in the bathroom when they should have been sitting in a science class.
blueshark69 6 months ago
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@concussedcarneous "let's hear those phoney physics"
Enlighten us, then, on which part of the formula for energy transmission represents the relative hardness of the objects.
Physicists would love to know this, since for centuries they've only been using mass and speed in their calculations of impact energy.
BlazingFerret 8 months ago
@BlazingFerret "Enlighten us, then, on which part of the formula for energy transmission represents the relative hardness"
It looks like this little monkey decided to run off after he got caught pretending to understand physics.
BlazingFerret 5 months ago
@concussedcarneous "isn't randy all about money?"
Randi has given most of his money away, endowing foundations that expose fraudulent bullshit like the Truthy cult.
Unlike Fetzer and Jones, who know nothing at all about engineering, are too stupid to learn, but still make a fortune pimping books and videos to uneducated little suckers.
MsgtSpook 8 months ago 4
@MsgtSpook "Fetzer ... still make[s] a fortune pimping books and videos to uneducated little suckers"
Since Fetzer disgraced himself and everyone laughs at him, no university will hire him anymore.
He's been pimping out books & videos on wild-ass conspiracy nuttiness for many years. It's how he makes his money, and has been for a long time.
BlazingFerret 5 months ago
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@bendtx "something tells me the doc was baked for this interview"
That's his normal condition. He shows up for almost every appearance about half-stewed, smelling like he spent the night in the Jack Daniels factory.
But Alex Jones & the rest of the conspiracy pimps know that all they have to do is buy him a bottle, wind him up, and he'll perform his little trained-seal act, babbling about science & engineering he knows nothing about.
MsgtSpook 9 months ago 4
moonlanding was as fake as could be...
maelstone 9 months ago
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@maelstone "moonlanding was as fake as could be"
Another uneducated fuck who believes any slop he reads on the internet.
Prime candidate to join the Truthie Cult, like the rest of the mouth-breathers and knuckle-draggers.
MsgtSpook 9 months ago 4
Fetzer has NO science degrees at all, just in history & "philosophy of science."
Believes 8 + gunmen were in Dealey Plaza, huge govt plot
Believes moon landing was a fake
Believes "directed energy wpns" brought down the WTC.
No wonder the Truthies hump his leg. He's as loony as they are.
MsgtSpook 9 months ago 7
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Has anyone else noticed how the top two comments and those other two thumbed up below are writted in a VERY similar manner? The shill mafias been workin hard here i see
zly81 9 months ago
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Fetzer has NO science degrees at all, just in history & philosophy.
Believes 8 + gunmen were in Dealey Plaza, huge govt plot
He believes moon landing was a fake
Believes "directed energy wpns" brought down the WTC.
Used to be a no-planer, probably still is.
The senile old fraud isn't even qualified to discuss engineering, but the Truthy cult still humps his leg, since they are as poorly educated in science as Fetzer.
MsgtSpook 10 months ago 5
"You still can't get around the fact that this old fraud hasn't got any credentials in ANY science, let alone engineering, but still passes himself off as having knowledge & skill in analyzing structural failures"
Why would anyone ask a computer geek to analyze a structural engineering issue?
Of course since they can't find any structural engineers who will embarrass themselves by publishing a paper supporting this silly shit, the Truthies have to scrounge up whatever nutjob is for sale.
MsgtSpook 11 months ago 11
Why is anyone even listening to this ass-clown, whose only education or experience has been as a computer software geek? His lucrative sideline for decades has been selling every crackpot conspiracy theory he can find, to any uneducated sucker with a buck.
He thinks Lee Harvey Oswald had a twin that shot JFK, believes 8+ gunmen were in Dealey Plaza, believes the moon landing was a fake, & believes "directed energy weapons" brought down the WTC.
He's a joke, and Truthers are the punchline.
blueshark69 11 months ago 12
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@blueshark69 you suck dicks in your leisure time.
they're conspiracy facts, biatch.
concussedcarneous 8 months ago
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I thought all the gatekeepers went into hiding when the Bush/Cheney cabal did.
86mud68 1 year ago
Fetzer has been making money from conspiracy crap for a long time!!!
Now 9/11 is his source of income. Look into why this asshole does what he does!!
"Inside Job" theories are just like Holocaust denier arguments!!!
Have a look at this idea for settling the debate!!
Cut and paste the following into your URL on youtube!
watch?v=B90kF1c2hnM
And check my channel for information that will improve your understanding of 9/11!
Humantidote is my name and real truth is my aim!!
Humantidote 1 year ago 14
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@Humantidote oh look more government propaganda no surprise from the assholes at large.
banjitson420 11 months ago
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Main Entry: fetzer
Pronunciation: 'fe-z&r
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: From Dr. James H. Fetzer PhD, American professor born 1940 who commonly used such tactics
1 : to make unfounded and unsubstantiated claims
2 : to rebut criticism of ones ideas with insults or irrelevant or unreliable information
synonym see BLOVIATE
proudshithead 2 years ago
the audio sucks
MrYpres 2 years ago
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Lunitic !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
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Why so may posts removed? Don't like freedom of "text"?
voodoolife 2 years ago
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@voodoolife only slanderous propaganda from the banker's hired minions like"hide the salami" are allowed here.
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banjitson420 11 months ago
Wow. This interviewer really thinks he knows a lot but actually knows nothing.
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violajerk 2 years ago
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"this old fraud hasn't got any credentials in ANY science, let alone engineering"
He's a phony & a liar, like virtually all the moron "scientists" in the little Truther cult.
The reason they forced him to retire from U-Minn is pretty obvious from this interview.
After two different dry-outs at University expense, he's still pickled to the gills almost every time he appears in public.
Even Alex Jones won't interview this old rummy anymore. He embarrasses the Twoofers.
FarmGirlJB 2 years ago 16
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what the fuck is this ? a CIA posting community/classroom exercise in disinfo? class dismissed--last ten posters against truth: take your shit out of your hats--games over. The people are waking up .
bitchcreekz1 3 years ago
I woudnt normally say it but, it being 4/20/07, somthing tells me the doc was baked for this interview.
bendtx 3 years ago 7
Hard to believe this phony piece of crap is still making money pimping conspiracies to the gullible illiterate.
Considering he hasn't got a trace of credentials in any hard science, let alone structural mechanics, his opinion about the collapse of WTC is about as valuable as the janitor's.
He's been promising his adoring followers for years that he's on the verge of publishing in an academic journal to "prove" this nonsense. Still waiting, but SciAM & Jrnl of Engrg Mechanics are, too.
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violajerk 2 years ago
"Describing Fetzer as a "phony piece of crap" is being way too kind"
Very true.
He glosses over the fact that he has NO science degrees at all, just in history & "philosophy of science."
Believes 8 + gunmen were in Dealey Plaza, huge govt plot
Believes moon landing was a fake
Believes "directed energy wpns" brought down the WTC.
I think he's still a no-planer, claiming there were no planes at the WTC, just fake videos by all the news crews & private photographers that day.
Complete loon.
FarmGirlJB 2 years ago 8
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@HaidDeSalaami "hide the salami"? obviously you laugh at the mindless morons who you are able to influence with your moronic insults.
Our tax money at work,fucking centcom scum.
dieyoubastards 1 year ago
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@HaidDeSalaami Im sorry did you just say that you are retarded?
banjitson420 11 months ago
Fetzer's apologists can parse phrases til they're blue in the fucking face --
You still can't get around the fact that this old fraud hasn't got any credentials in ANY science, let alone engineering, but still passes himself off as having knowledge & skill in analyzing structural failures.
Yeah, like my janitor. And neither does his ludicrous "collaborator," Griffin -- a fucking Theology professor !
Small wonder that no published structural engineering paper on the subject backs him.
ReemYakrevice 3 years ago 15
@ReemYakrevice so what about A&E for 911 Truth then?
gontsaru 5 months ago
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@gontsaru "what about A&E for 911 Truth"
What about them?
Did you ever ask yourself why, in ten years, this group of "scientists" hasn't produced a single piece of paper published in any engineering journal?
What, exactly, is their problem? In science & engineering you publish your research, or you publish criticism of the research of others. This is how it works.
On the other hand, if you're just an unqualified dipshit, you just post on Youtube or other half-assed websites.
BlazingFerret 5 months ago
@gontsaru
You might also ask why this old fool Fetzer, who never had an engineering class in his life, feels qualified to pontificate on structural engineering & demolition, when he has no credentials in either field.
Don't they have any real engineers? Or are they too busy adjusting their tinfoil hats?
BlazingFerret 5 months ago
The so-called 'Comprehensivists' are Philosophers. The 'Ph' of a 'PhD' is Philosophy.
EnnoiaBlog 4 years ago
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The government never used deductive reasoning to state their explanation of 9/11 - they used inductive reasoning. Otherwise, there would still be an open investigation. Spare us the Socratic Method lecture, my good man. It's so simple.
scarease 4 years ago
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timeforchange2007.blogspot I WILL DO SOMETHING!!!!!! HELP!!!!
begotka2007 4 years ago
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Check out Time Ingold's works for more reasoning along the same line.
h t t p : / / w w w . z o n e . e e / b a t e s o n / I n g o l d /
Without spaces, of course.
DivisionbyZer0 4 years ago
Memes are a bunk notion.
DivisionbyZer0 4 years ago
why? (I half agree with you but want some convincing)
Guaguanco11 4 years ago
They suppose that culture consists of discrete informational instructions that are transferred from "head to head"and replicated -- this makes culture a primarily mentalistic notion, based on an overextenion of computer and information theoretic metaphors and neglects the lived contexts of the body in the environment.
DivisionbyZer0 4 years ago
But does culture consist of discrete informational instructions that are passed from head to head? Probably not. If it did you would see lots of identical behaviors and identical expression of thought, when you do not -- you see similarity. Learning would be much easier and more routine if it were a simple replication or information transfer process. What consists of a discrete bundle that is transferred.
DivisionbyZer0 4 years ago
Most notions and behaviors are dependent on others and exist in a dependent network, so there can be no atomic transfers-- there are no "irreducible" elements of culture.
DivisionbyZer0 4 years ago
Ok you make some good points. But is it fair to assume that the informational structures which are transferred are near perfect replications (like genes). Couldn't memetic transfer involve vaguer notions of resemblance such as isomorphic relations which hold on some levels but not others?
Guaguanco11 4 years ago
cultural memes vs genetic genes...ontology, entropy, trancendance, extinction, sustainability, polination, exponents, police states, infinity...
laotsu7777 4 years ago