This would of been neat if Princess Leia aka Carrie Fisher offered her former step-mother Elizabeth Taylor a movie role in Star Wars as Darth Vader's wife then Elizabeth could of played Leia's step-mother two now that's a movie role!
this isnt a fair race the enterprise can go warp 9.997 and warp 1 is lightspeed the max speed of the millenium falcon is 1.5 past lightspeed so on star trek terms the millenium flacon can only go warp 1.5 so the enetrprise would win hands down!
@RomeoRomantique actually, Star wars "lightspeed" is just a saying. The falcon actually goes hundreds of times light speed, it can cross a galaxy in a matter of weeks.
@Joesolo13 The Enterprise is faster because of warp, but if you count if the falcon goes in to hyperspace, the Enterprise get left behind forever. There is no way warp can keep up with hyperspace travvel.
@stalkingalizee "Lightspeed" in star wars is just another word for FTL, Warp 2 is 8c in TOS, but it's 10.1c in TNG. (they use different warp scales between the shows.) Also the galaxy in Star Wars is 120,000 ly in diameter, and it's a distance of 40,000 ly between Tatooine and Alderaan, which Han Solo states their arrival time at "0200 hours" also he DID make the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs (lucas himself confirmed this), which at 1.5c would have taken decades, which it clearly did not.
@stalkingalizee If han had said it makes 0.6 past lightspeed that would have meant somewhere on the order of 70,000,000c being slower as Hyperdrive grades are rated lower numbers the faster they are. A Class 0 Hyperdrive would be equivalent to Warp 10 on the TNG scale, and Warp X on the TOS scale.
a Class 1 Hyperdrive is 50,000,000c class 2 is 25,000,000,000c etc. dozens of times faster than Slipstream. Also Hyperwave allows real time, direct communication between hundreds of thousands of ly.
@stalkingalizee problem with this theory, Warp 2 is 10c. Falcon is 75,000,000c due to it's 0.5 class Hyperdrive (being 0.5 past the standard 1 class hypderive which is 50,000,000c) so no, The Falcon could take Voyager's order for some good creole food (just after they blew up the caretaker array), hop to Sisko's on earth and take it back to Voyager within 18 hours, hell they could ferry the crew back to earth and ditch the ship, download the doctor like they did Moriarty to take him with them.
1) The Millenium Falcon cheated! 2) I liked the Enterprise destroying the Falcon at the end. I didn't like the Death Star destroying the Enterprise out of nowhere. 3) You should've blown the Death Star up there at the end, as well.
Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5, Galactica, Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and God are all works of fiction. Here's the definition of fiction, "Invention or fabrication as opposed to fact." It never ceases to amaze me how many of you losers argue over this crap like it's real. These shows are just mass marketed lies, created for entertainment and to see how many idiots the studio can make think it's real You Marys need to get haircut, a real job not a paper route and move out of yer nan's basement.
@BOBBYthebrainBUNDY most of us do it becuase the world that are created are soo much much better than ours and sometimes we just need to get away from all the bollocks
@Perion Good points, but anything past warp 9.99, or i.e. really can mean infinite speeds. Transwarp in ST refers to anything faster than conventional warp. This includes things like using/creating worm holes, slipstream and so forth. If the use of these advanced drive systems are employed, then being anywhere in the galaxy is quite possible.
@81ECM no, even warp 9.999 is only 25567.1c, which seems about right for shipboard transwarp but even that would take a year to cross a quadrant, slipstream (which is faster, taking only a few months) or borg transwarp hubs (fastest taking mere minutes) are nowhere near "infinite" speeds
Transwarp hubs are static and as a result require a vast network to be worthwhile, unless you are okay with a one way trip.
@Perion borg transwarp, quantum slipstream, transwarp, coaxial drive, and any other drive system that would allow speeds greater than warp 9.99 (or 9.99999, or 9.9999999999999999) in the Star Trek Universe. The different technologies could potentially allow a Starship to go anywhere in a very short amount of time, or even instantly. These theoretical drives are an exploration of the impossible and the infinite.
@81ECM you do realize there is a MASSIVE Difference in speed between 9.99, 9.99999 and 9.9999999999999999, and none of those drives are capable of 9.99999 though Coaxial drive is different since it's capable of incredible speeds over short jumps, the time between jumps and their duration however makes the overall speed less impressive.
all in all, no drive in Star Trek has an overall, hourly speed close to 100,000,000c save for that used by say, the Traveller or other such "unaffected" races
@Perion of course I know there is a difference between the speeds. I used the exaggerated numbers to show contrast, and for a little humor. The 100,000,000c speed is speculation, not a published fact by George Lucas, i.e. not canon (and I believe to be farce based of my own research). Heck, there are some sites that say the actual speeds are more like 1350c-1750c. The bottom line is until Lucas decided to define the ftl speeds, trek has the solid foundation.
@81ECM Nope, sorry, not mere speculation, the observed speeds shown on screen are from one side of the galaxy to the other, which are invariably same day traffic, or very close to it.
The bottom line is that even with ballpark figures of observed travel times and distances, the 100,000,000c figure as a ballpark estimate IS canon, and can be no less than 10,000,000c without Ignoring on screen evidence.
@81ECM Published figures give the effective range of a ship before refueling, and we frequently see ships refuel (especially fighters, which refuel after nearly every trip.) In the thousands of lightyears, that alone disproves anything lower than 1,000,000c and even that is extremely low end, unless you expect someone to sit in a fighter cockpit for 3 days straight.
@81ECM There is nothing faster than Warp 10 on the TNG scale, though the TOS Scale it never ends, Warp 10,000 which is a trillion times the speed of light is a perfectly legitimate measurement in TOS. Apparently, in the alternate future of "All good things" the Federation adopted a new, TOS like warp scale, since Riker is heard ordering "Warp 13" which in TOS scale would be equal to Warp 9.75 TNG scale, it cannot be TNG scale since well, that would be Infinity Plus 3.
@Perion In all good things, I believe either two possibilities. One, they changed the scale back as you said, or two, found a way to reach infinite speeds with future technologies. We will never know the truth behind this, but it is interesting that the writers decided to use "warp 13." The only thing that can be considered source material, or canon which defines warp speed is TOS and TNG era scales (TNG, DS9, VOY)
@81ECM We can use common sense and logic to discount the possibility of infinite speeds, since Riker said Warp 13 and also said "Maximum Warp" or something like that which implies Warp 13 is not their maximum, another reason is that they quite simply cannot be using the same scale as they did in TNG. Even Warp 10 is impossible (Threshold was stricken from the canon after all) let alone Warp 13 using the TNG scale. Honestly it makes as much sense and logic as a child talking about infinity plus 3
@Perion I don't want to split hairs or get into a debate. In "all good things" the transwarp drive that was used to get faster than warp the scale would allow was not disclosed. There could be a sever explanations to explain this, but they are all speculation, not fact as the canon universe never explained this transwarp drive system that allowed Riker to call out "warp 13." We can guess and guess, and deduce what the possibilities were and are, but only the writers will ever know.
The Falcon no contest. Remember in The Empire Strikes Back when Admiral Piett commented to Vader that "if the Millennium Falcon went into lightspeed it would be on the other side of the galaxy by now"? Either the Star Wars galaxy is a fraction of the size of ours, or Star Wars ships are many times faster because it took Voyager years to get from the Delta quadrant to the Alpha quadrant.
At sub-light speeds the Falcon should have an early advantage with acceleration. However, the Enterprise can push for light speed much more easily. The Falcon's hyperdrive is much faster than warp 10. Also the Enterprise is a much more reliable ship with a full and superlative crew. Plus the Enterprise would not have stopped if they knew it was a race. As ever, SW requires ST to do something completely stupid to win.
@DocWolph uh, the Enterprise can push for warp more easily because it's allot slower, so it doesn't require calculations beforehand.
As for reliability, the worst thing that will happen on the falcon is something will fail to work, while the Enterprise will blow up if you sneeze at it.
@Perion For Sub light, the Enterprise uses Impulse drives, which are pretty much a form of ion drive not unlike the Falcon. Warp uses a totally different engine system. Warp speeds are magnitudes greater that light speed.
The Falcon has NEVER been hit with anything larger than a TIE fighter's lasers. The Ent-D has been battered by battleships, dripping into stars, manhandled by cosmic beings, and more. The Falcon is the junker as are most SW vessels.
@DocWolph The Enterprise's Impulse drives are limited to 1,000g acceleration as the design goal, the Falcon can keep up with X-Wings and even at times outrun TIE Interceptors, which have 5 to 6 times that level of acceleration.
TIE FIghter guns are rated in the double digit terawatts, while mere tripple digit gigawatts are enough to blow through Enterprise shields.
The Falcon has been hit repeatedly from the point defense guns on an ISD, which are roughly on par with photon torpedoes.
Some of SW tech is far inferior to that of ST. The Falcon has a radar-style dish, Star Destroyers have radomes (golf ball type radar). This technology is obsolete in Trek which has sensors. And lets not forget that the mighty Death Star couldn't detect any life-forms on the Falcon after it had captured it. It required a scanning crew to board the ship. And a Star Destroyer couldn't detect the Falcon sitting on its hull in ESB. The Enterprise could scan every lifeform on the Death Star in seconds
@masere Star Trek sensors look like radar dishes too, just look at a cross section of the Enterprise D, or a glance at Kirk's Enterprise for that matter. The Falcon is a smuggling ship so it is quite obvious that it has specialized equipment and materials designed to block scanners.
Those dishes are capable of sending signals to converse 100,000 ly away in real time, they are called Hyperwave, and are vastly superior to Subspace communications and sensors.
Also Keep in mind that the Death Star is made out of a material (Quadanium) stronger than that of Regular Star Destroyers, which are already made out of a material (Durasteel) which itself is stronger than Neutronium, which Trek weapons are useless against and Trek Scanners cannot penetrate.
The Death Star can jam sensors so badly it will mess with engine performance and you won't even be able to tell if it's shields are up or not, flying into Imperial ECM is like flying into a mutara nebula
The funniest part of this whole thing is reading people's comments afterwards and realizing they're actually arguing about fantastical trivia. Your nonsensical debates amuse me :)
in star trek the next generation technical manual it said a cochrane is = to the speed of light (light speed) so at warp factor 5 enterprise would be going 214 cochranes = 214 times faster than light speed and the falcon only goes light speed
@lionq1 actually the falcon does roughly 100,000,000 x the speed of light considering how fast it goes from one side of the galaxy to the other.
The terms "lightspeed" in star wars refers to any speed 1c and above, it doesn't mean 1c and only 1c.
also 0.5 past lightspeed doesn't mean 1.5c, otherwise making the kessel run would take 25+ years either way, and lucas confirmed that Han wasn't making things up or getting the meaning of parsec wrong, just that people misinterpreted what he said.
@lionq1 No the falcon goes roughly 100,000,000 times faster than the speed of light from on screen travel times across the galaxy shown repeatedly, and scaled to travel times shown in the prequels from other, slower craft. (and according to Lucas himself the SW galaxy is actually slightly bigger than our own, so the tiny galaxy theory is bunk) the term "lightspeed" in Star Wars is synonymous with "Faster than light" or "FTL" anything from Warp 1 to Warp 10 would be considered "Lightspeed"
@SouthParkBear Your joking right? She travelled back in time 26 years, it's more than likely she travelled the distance WHILE going through time, IE making a journey that would take 26 years to make, but because she was travelling through time as well as space, it appeared to be near instantaneous.
look, any ship approch light speed without using warp drive is going to be crushed into matters, so, really, in reailtiy, the millenium falcon is going to be destroy when closing near 99% of lightspeed.
the millenium falcon can travel half way across the galaxy in about 10 minutes. Assuming a galaxy about the size of the milky way, that is 50000light years/600seconds=2 628 000 000c. I'm pretty sure that's faster than many tachyons, so it would be very difficult for the enterprise to compete.
One, the term "Lightspeed" is used colloquially in star wars, Obi-Wan made a round trip of 100,000 ly in Episode 2, which requires speeds faster than any shipboard drive seen in Star Trek, faster than Transwarp, Faster than Slipstream, etc.
Two, Star Wars "Lasers" are lasers only in name, and even then Lasers of sufficient power can damage and even destroy federation ships, what matters is power output, not the name of the weapon.
A Photon Torpedoes is worth 24 megatons, that might not sound like much compared to some modern nukes but considering their small size compared to say, the Tsar Bomba and the fact that they are conventional weapons rather than superweapons it's very powerful by modern standards.
By Imperial standards however it's like a firecracker against an M1 Abrams, as even their medium guns are worth 200 gigatons a shot and Star Destroyers can kick out hundreds of teratons a second with all guns blazing.
@Perion one problem with that theory though, transwarp is instant transport to any part of the universe, and without warp drive Star Wars ships would be torn apart instantly at the speed of light.
@Perion Quantum Slipstream can transverse the galaxy in a few weeks. When faced with that possibility, Voyager could have gotten home w/ QS in two weeks, instead of the nearly 70 years at high warp. Transwarp is faster than Warp. How much faster was never explained. SW Hyperdrive and QS are similar and may in fact be completely equal. From what I get, everything in Star Trek Online is now canon. So QS is part of ST FTL tech now.
@DocWolph even if STO was canon (which it isn't) then you would note that QSD is only available to Vice Admirals and even then can only be used for limited periods of time, to cross half a dozen lightyears in fact, and requires a lengthy recharge in order to be used again.
QSD takes months to cross one quadrant according to "Hope and fear" while a Hyperdrive can cross the entire galaxy in hours as observed in the films repeatedly.
@Perion Do you play STO or at least someone how does even half seriously? Trying to DQ tech because it's "high ranking only" does not excuse it from the total tech canon. Albeit 30yrs after ST:X and Voyager.
The distance Voyage was from home in the episode "Hope and Fear" was still over 65% of the width of the Milky Way. Also I never said they QS was as fast only that it could be as fast as SW HD. Besides for a Universe built on exploration, taking months rather than decades is good enough.
@DocWolph It's relevant because only a relative few ships have it, while Hyperdrive is deployed fleetwide.
The Falcon isn't a junker, The Twilight was a junker, since for crying out loud it's Acceleration compensators (the Star Wars version of Inertial Dampeners) didn't even work right!
The Falcon is an old freighter with overclocked parts, it looks like a Junker on the outside, but it outperforms anything in Starfleet.
SW Vessels are thousands of years ahead of ST vessels
@Perion the star wars databank doesn't say weather 0.5 or 0.75 is faster... but mara jades ship Jade Shadow was 0.5 .. & also annakin had a ship Jabitha wich was 0.4 ... so going by your calculations that would make annies ship the the ... fastest :D
@Perion ... outrider slower?? im sure i remember dash rendar boasting its superiority in capabilities & speed over the falcon in shadows of the empire or something
technically Warp Drive is capable of anywhere between the speed of light to roughly 3,000 times the speed of light with TNG era warp 9.6 taking nearly a century to cross the galaxy.
A class 0.5 Hyperdrive is capable of roughly 100,000,000 times the speed of light, crossing the entire galaxy in about a day.
Actually the Outrider is slower than the Falcon, Falcon had a 0.5 Hyperdrive, Outrider had a 0.75, Slave 1 is in between at 0.7 so slightly faster than Outrider.
If the Death Star II was completed then indeed it would own practically all.
One, even if we interpreted him referring to meaning 1.5c (which is impossible due to on screen travel distances and times) it would still be higher than warp 1. (closer to warp 1.14)
however Han's ETA to Alderaan was 02:00 hours The departure time relative to han's clock is unknown, canon maps put the distance between tatooine and alderaan at over 42,000 ly
At 1.5c it would take 3 years to so much as go from earth to alpha centauri, a mere 4.4ly
The official explanation is that "past lightspeed" refers to the FTL drive grade, so you can get say, "2,500g acceleration and it makes 2 Past Lightspeed". as in, once you use your FTL, it makes that # grade.
Say I invite someone to my ship and it's pretty average in speed, I'll tell them that "It makes 2 past lightspeed" a friend of mine has a higher end drive, "you should see Garid's, his can make 1 past lightspeed, he's getting a new navcomputer which should push it to 0.9"
A ship like the one I just described would be ne2 and a half times faster than the Enterprise D at sublight, and at a class 2 it would be 25,000 times faster than the Enterprise D's warp
A Class 2 Hyperdrive is roughly equal to Warp 293 (Cochrane scale) or Warp 9.9999957 (TNG Scale) or 25,000,000c (SI units)
A Class 0 Hyperdrive would be equal to Warp X (Cochrane) Warp 10 (TNG) or an Infinite improbability Drive.
I normally don't like to say negative things, but this would be SO much better without the hokey CG spaceships, especially when there is so much source material to work with.
Yes, it's true. The Enterprise-D would be scrapped for spare parts in the Star Wars Universe. More than likely the Empire would take her and make kitchen utensils out of her puny hull.... That's about all the use that the Ent-D would have for the Empire.
Look at us arguing over fucking fantasy shit, like it's real. It's fucking fake as boobs in California. Who gives a shit. I'm just saying, I'm a more entertained by Star trek than starwars. It doesn't mean a fucking thing except that.
Hey guys, I've got an idea, why don't we just get a fucking life?
I'm out, and for ever done with this stupid fucking argument. May as well be arguing over what color is better Blue or Red? FUCKING STUPID SHIT
Are you fucking kidding me? You put the Millennium Falcon against the Enterprise-D? The Enterprise-D would easily go faster than that piece of space shit.
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Did you even pay attention to the movies?
The Rebellion fixed that problem.
The fact that the Falcons hull has material that blocks transporter, not to mention shields and a jamming system(which blocks transporters too) there aren't going to be any red/yellow shirts beaming in, hell thanks to it's weapons there won't be a defiant.
Pretty sad if one of your dedicated war ships it taken out by a smuggler ship.XDDDDD
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The jamming would also make the Falcon pretty well impossible for the Defiant to get a lock on, and since the Defiant's accuracy is already notoriously poor, manual targeting is always a big deal for Defiant class ships "we can shoot but god knows what we'll hit" and the reaction of the Valiant's crew when they learn they'd have to do more than press a button to hit the enemy ship.
Meanwhile the falcon can dance around their phaser and quantum torpedoes and hit them with a concussion missile.
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also fun fact, the Concussion missiles the Falcon had were larger and more powerful than the ones on Slave 1 in AOTC, so 1 Concussion missile would be much more firepower than 4 Quantum torpedoes.
I'll be honest, Star wars, aside from fun storytelling, is for me anyway, TOTAL FUCKING GARBAGE! The original three films were at lest tolerable. The last of the new series was not bad, but all in all. Between the hype and everything. My life would have been better having not seen any of the prequels. I may be the biggest new, STAR WARS HATING PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
Nope, the defiant's heaviest weapon is rated at 48 megatons, while the concussion missles carried by the falcon are rated at 192+ megatons over four times the difiants weapons yield.
The defiant would go down faster than chewbacca could say:Grrrraarar.
So what if it's not standard equipment, is the Falcon a standard ship? HELLZ NO, Soooooooo, don't try and pussy foot around the Defiant blasting hella holes through that tiny little ship.
I didn't even mention the tractor beam and the transporter capabilities. That small ass ship would be stuffed with 12 armed Starfleet security personnel before they could even get that crappy hunk of trash to actually work, and run away from a fight it could never win. I'm just saying...
The thing is a galaxy class star ships shields are dropped and hull damaged after a 400gw shot(TNG:The Survivors).
The Falcons guns are rated at the terrawatt range and up it would PWN the defiant in one shot and still have time for chewbacca to go:GRRRRAWWR(translation:LAAAME)
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wow, you really are dense, not only is Blacksun Right, but even the Falcon's Hyperdrive is FAR more Reliable than any Warp Core, Why? because the worst thing the Hyperdrive will do is not work, it won't blow up just because someone looked at it funny.
ISDs have class 2 hyperdrives which are 25,000,000c
VSDs and Vicstars have Class 1 which are 50,000,000c
0.6 class hyperdrives are standard on Acclamator class Dropships, which are 90,000,000c
If the millinium falcon is traveling at light speed and the Startrek universe lists light speed as "warp one" the MFalcon couldn't stand a chance. Especially if the Enterprise is at warp"9" as is stated in your video.
The millenium falcon can travel faster than light, In the first star wars movie han made a trip from tatooine to alderaan, the farthest world on the outer rim to a core world 60-65 thousand lightyears apart in just a few hours.
The u.s.s. voyager made a similar trip, but it took 75 years at warp 9.
Commentary: Hyperspace is hundreds of thousands of times faster than that of Warp 9 or what ever the highest warp is in TNG. The Falcon could go from Earth to the delta quadrant and back faster than the Enterprise could going to Vulcan on a 1 way trip.
Hyperspace is insanely fast when compared to Warp Drive. A trip across the galaxy with a hyperdrive could take a few weeks if they were being frugal, as Hyperdrive fuel can be expensive.
It takes a warpdrive 75+ years to make it to the next quadrant.
DS9? Maybe what, a Medium scale resupply and repair dock?
A wing of tie fighters/xwings could do medium damage, a Coreilian Light Corvette (Tantive IV) could probably inflict heavy to critical, I'd hate to see what an ISD would do to it... Over kill much?
Agreement: I know. They only have to deploy a squadron of TIE/sa Bombers to take out DS9's shields.
Recitation: He said, " DS9's shields would be immune to a turboLASER because it is a LASER."
Statement: I then copied and pasted the entire process of how a turbo laser works. It took over 5 replies to complete. LOL. The movie was worse because it showed 3 phaser hits from DS9 hitting an ISD and the ISD was destroyed. Silly Trekkies.
Don't get me wrong, I love Trek, I wouldn't be a SciFi fan if I didn't, but in terms of sheer firepower and tactical ability, Star Wars wins, hands down, every time.
Prime examples of this are: Death Star, Sun Killer, SSD
Clarification: I am a Trek fan too. I was referring to the meatbag Trekkies who think Trek is greater than SW.
Reminder: Don't forget about age, medical capabilities, transportation (through space and from one building to another (I don't mean to discredit the teleporter)), several ecumenopolis.
Query: Did you know that teleportation could be achieved with the Force? Though the draw back was that it corrupted the user because it broke the natural laws of space and time and was rarely used.
Agreement: Yeah those are the meatbags I'm speaking of. Also the ones who are determined that Trek can defeat Wars even though they know they're wrong and start using foul language. It is quite amusing.
Correction: Hyperspace in no warp speed. The difference between Warp speed and Hyperspace is the difference between the Q and Humans. Hyperspace is thousands of millions faster than normal space and the pathetic Warp speed.
The closest thing Star Trek EVER had to coming "close" (about as close as a bicycle compared to a 911 Turbo is speed) was the Quantum Slip Stream we saw in Voyager. Or the Caretaker's Array.
very nice about the .5 past lightspeed thing but we all know tat han solo words things wrong: like he said he made the kessel run in less than 5 parsecs or whatever. thats like saying u ran thru the mall in under half a mile. wtf? and its not .5 past lightspeed. is hyperspeed .5. lower number it is the faster it is
Actually, saying that he made the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs was quite an accomplishment because it meant he had to cut close to a cluster of black holes known as the Maw. Most ships that try that get sucked in, but the Falcon's engines were strong enough not to be.
Also, .5 past lightspeed is just slang. Han Solo is not a scientist.
Fact: The falcon would have been in Hyperspace which is not in our existence. Thus it would have not been seen. The falcon could have sat there and waited 'til the Enterprise was 5 seconds away from the line and went into Hyperspace and won.
Star Trek wins over Star Wars ANY day!! It took me two seconds to figure out who would win in a race. In the 4th movie, Han said that the falcon could do .5 past light speed. I take that to mean it can do about warp 1.3!!! AND In this movie, Picard ordered full IMPULSE power, which can do 1/4th of light speed. AND The Enterprise would not be so devastated by the falcon which uses LASER cannons while the Enterprise uses PHASERS. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!! Bottom Line... STAR TREK RULES!!!
If han had said "it makes .7 past light speed" it would actually be slower than a .5, he was stating the Hyperdrive Class, not the speed in relation to multiples of light speed.
The Falcon's hyperdrive can make it go the equivalent of Warp 9.99999996 to Warp 9.9999999996.
also Full Impulse has an acceleration of 1000g, most fighters in Star Wars can go 4000g and even Star Destroyers go 3000g their top speed in space is never stated however..
Falcon Laser cannons have an energy output of well over 8 terawatts, Enterprise Phasers have an output of only 3.6 gigawatts
fighter scale Medium Concussion Missiles have a yield of 150 megatons, use a shaped charge allowing safe fire at point blank range, they home in and chase their targets
Federation Capital ship Photon Torpedoes have a total yield of 48 megatons, but lack shaped charges so only half is usable and cannot be fired too close without self damage,.they do not chase targets.
just because most Races in Trek cannot make better Lasers than Phasers doesn't mean that Phasers are inherently better,
quite simply they reached the limit of what outputs they could get with that tech and switched to another, in conundrum they mention the fact that each of their "enemies" have Lasers in the Kilojoule to Megajoule range and that's for capital ships, they have never dealt with a race that has "Lasers" in the Terajoule range, for FIGHTERS!.
.5 past light speed means a class 0.5 hyperdrive on an inverse scale where 4 is slower than 1.
Star Wars vessels can cross the galaxy in a few weeks, while Star Trek vessels can only cross their small sector of the galaxy in that time (note how it takes days for
The Daedalus beat them both xD
ZzMattizZ 1 week ago
@ZzMattizZ Yea, probably. Star Wars hyperspace dosn't work out side of galaxies, so it could leave and comeback at will.
Joesolo13 1 week ago
Pffft. Picard could defeat the Death Star with a speech. Just saying it's true.
Clonetrooperkev 3 weeks ago
This would of been neat if Princess Leia aka Carrie Fisher offered her former step-mother Elizabeth Taylor a movie role in Star Wars as Darth Vader's wife then Elizabeth could of played Leia's step-mother two now that's a movie role!
americanmonarchist 3 weeks ago
this isnt a fair race the enterprise can go warp 9.997 and warp 1 is lightspeed the max speed of the millenium falcon is 1.5 past lightspeed so on star trek terms the millenium flacon can only go warp 1.5 so the enetrprise would win hands down!
RomeoRomantique 1 month ago
@RomeoRomantique light speed in starwars is closer to transwarp in startek
yazzor828 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@RomeoRomantique actually, Star wars "lightspeed" is just a saying. The falcon actually goes hundreds of times light speed, it can cross a galaxy in a matter of weeks.
Joesolo13 4 weeks ago
@Joesolo13 Simple: it's actually a really tiny galaxy!
:)
Idazmi7 2 weeks ago
@Joesolo13 The Enterprise is faster because of warp, but if you count if the falcon goes in to hyperspace, the Enterprise get left behind forever. There is no way warp can keep up with hyperspace travvel.
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superfiremario53 1 month ago
ha ha death star comes out of nowhere!!!
fartingrocket2012 1 month ago
starwars's fanwank is stupid
hk775861677z 2 months ago
The maker of this video too also deserves a lot of credit!
rsll1986 3 months ago
Brilliant, Wonderful, Glorious, Baha'u'llah!
rsll1986 3 months ago
The Falcon cheated and gets destroyed by the Enterprise. hahaha
USSVoyager5 4 months ago
Enterprise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SuperLegoman36 5 months ago
Oy, two completely different modes of travel that allow for completely different tactics and events. Both have pluses and minuses. Leave it alone.
RedneckRapture 5 months ago
A ship going Warp 2 will dust the Mil Falcon.
stalkingalizee 5 months ago
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Perion 5 months ago
@Perion Sorry but Han Solo says it will make .5 past light speed which is only like Warp 1.15. Warp 2 is 8X light speed.
stalkingalizee 5 months ago
@stalkingalizee "Lightspeed" in star wars is just another word for FTL, Warp 2 is 8c in TOS, but it's 10.1c in TNG. (they use different warp scales between the shows.) Also the galaxy in Star Wars is 120,000 ly in diameter, and it's a distance of 40,000 ly between Tatooine and Alderaan, which Han Solo states their arrival time at "0200 hours" also he DID make the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs (lucas himself confirmed this), which at 1.5c would have taken decades, which it clearly did not.
Perion 5 months ago
@stalkingalizee If han had said it makes 0.6 past lightspeed that would have meant somewhere on the order of 70,000,000c being slower as Hyperdrive grades are rated lower numbers the faster they are. A Class 0 Hyperdrive would be equivalent to Warp 10 on the TNG scale, and Warp X on the TOS scale.
a Class 1 Hyperdrive is 50,000,000c class 2 is 25,000,000,000c etc. dozens of times faster than Slipstream. Also Hyperwave allows real time, direct communication between hundreds of thousands of ly.
Perion 5 months ago
@Perion He said point 5 past lightspeed: ignoring yor fanwank, that means slow.
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@stalkingalizee problem with this theory, Warp 2 is 10c. Falcon is 75,000,000c due to it's 0.5 class Hyperdrive (being 0.5 past the standard 1 class hypderive which is 50,000,000c) so no, The Falcon could take Voyager's order for some good creole food (just after they blew up the caretaker array), hop to Sisko's on earth and take it back to Voyager within 18 hours, hell they could ferry the crew back to earth and ditch the ship, download the doctor like they did Moriarty to take him with them.
Perion 5 months ago
1) The Millenium Falcon cheated! 2) I liked the Enterprise destroying the Falcon at the end. I didn't like the Death Star destroying the Enterprise out of nowhere. 3) You should've blown the Death Star up there at the end, as well.
kickass21ful 6 months ago
This is nerdy as sin, but i love it!
kmp3000 6 months ago
Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5, Galactica, Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and God are all works of fiction. Here's the definition of fiction, "Invention or fabrication as opposed to fact." It never ceases to amaze me how many of you losers argue over this crap like it's real. These shows are just mass marketed lies, created for entertainment and to see how many idiots the studio can make think it's real You Marys need to get haircut, a real job not a paper route and move out of yer nan's basement.
BOBBYthebrainBUNDY 8 months ago
@BOBBYthebrainBUNDY most of us do it becuase the world that are created are soo much much better than ours and sometimes we just need to get away from all the bollocks
zaphodbeblebroxrip 7 months ago
@perion AND @81ECM
GIRLS, GIRLS!!!! You're both pretty. Now go back to your grandma's basement and play nice with your Barbies.
BOBBYthebrainBUNDY 8 months ago
The Enterprise D was traveling at Warp 9.2 which is about 494357763 kps
That means:
0.607 minutes to cross the Sol System
5.316 hours to cross one lightyear (9.46 trillion kilometers)
Traveling at warp 9.9 (Enterprise E):
0.328 minutes to cross the Sol System
2.871 hours to cross one lightyear (9.46 trillion kilometers)
and I'm not talking Transwarp speeds (i.e. warp 10 or faster, which is infinite speeds)
Star Wars definition of how fast the hyperdrive goes is not defined, Star Trek is
81ECM 9 months ago
@81ECM
We get an idea of how fast Star Wars Speeds are from on screen and EU sources,
The Star Wars galaxy is 120,000 ly across, making it slightly larger than our own, there are also 2 dwarf galaxies neighbouring it.
We routinely see pangalactic travel take place in hours in the films themselves, while they sometimes take longer in the EU.
Transwarp Speeds are, by definition, faster than what is attainable with conventional warp drives, it does not inherently mean infinite speed.
Perion 8 months ago
@Perion Good points, but anything past warp 9.99, or i.e. really can mean infinite speeds. Transwarp in ST refers to anything faster than conventional warp. This includes things like using/creating worm holes, slipstream and so forth. If the use of these advanced drive systems are employed, then being anywhere in the galaxy is quite possible.
81ECM 8 months ago
@81ECM no, even warp 9.999 is only 25567.1c, which seems about right for shipboard transwarp but even that would take a year to cross a quadrant, slipstream (which is faster, taking only a few months) or borg transwarp hubs (fastest taking mere minutes) are nowhere near "infinite" speeds
Transwarp hubs are static and as a result require a vast network to be worthwhile, unless you are okay with a one way trip.
Perion 8 months ago
@Perion borg transwarp, quantum slipstream, transwarp, coaxial drive, and any other drive system that would allow speeds greater than warp 9.99 (or 9.99999, or 9.9999999999999999) in the Star Trek Universe. The different technologies could potentially allow a Starship to go anywhere in a very short amount of time, or even instantly. These theoretical drives are an exploration of the impossible and the infinite.
81ECM 8 months ago
@81ECM you do realize there is a MASSIVE Difference in speed between 9.99, 9.99999 and 9.9999999999999999, and none of those drives are capable of 9.99999 though Coaxial drive is different since it's capable of incredible speeds over short jumps, the time between jumps and their duration however makes the overall speed less impressive.
all in all, no drive in Star Trek has an overall, hourly speed close to 100,000,000c save for that used by say, the Traveller or other such "unaffected" races
Perion 8 months ago
@Perion of course I know there is a difference between the speeds. I used the exaggerated numbers to show contrast, and for a little humor. The 100,000,000c speed is speculation, not a published fact by George Lucas, i.e. not canon (and I believe to be farce based of my own research). Heck, there are some sites that say the actual speeds are more like 1350c-1750c. The bottom line is until Lucas decided to define the ftl speeds, trek has the solid foundation.
81ECM 8 months ago
@81ECM Nope, sorry, not mere speculation, the observed speeds shown on screen are from one side of the galaxy to the other, which are invariably same day traffic, or very close to it.
The bottom line is that even with ballpark figures of observed travel times and distances, the 100,000,000c figure as a ballpark estimate IS canon, and can be no less than 10,000,000c without Ignoring on screen evidence.
Perion 8 months ago
@81ECM Published figures give the effective range of a ship before refueling, and we frequently see ships refuel (especially fighters, which refuel after nearly every trip.) In the thousands of lightyears, that alone disproves anything lower than 1,000,000c and even that is extremely low end, unless you expect someone to sit in a fighter cockpit for 3 days straight.
Perion 8 months ago
@81ECM There is nothing faster than Warp 10 on the TNG scale, though the TOS Scale it never ends, Warp 10,000 which is a trillion times the speed of light is a perfectly legitimate measurement in TOS. Apparently, in the alternate future of "All good things" the Federation adopted a new, TOS like warp scale, since Riker is heard ordering "Warp 13" which in TOS scale would be equal to Warp 9.75 TNG scale, it cannot be TNG scale since well, that would be Infinity Plus 3.
Perion 8 months ago
@Perion In all good things, I believe either two possibilities. One, they changed the scale back as you said, or two, found a way to reach infinite speeds with future technologies. We will never know the truth behind this, but it is interesting that the writers decided to use "warp 13." The only thing that can be considered source material, or canon which defines warp speed is TOS and TNG era scales (TNG, DS9, VOY)
81ECM 8 months ago
@81ECM We can use common sense and logic to discount the possibility of infinite speeds, since Riker said Warp 13 and also said "Maximum Warp" or something like that which implies Warp 13 is not their maximum, another reason is that they quite simply cannot be using the same scale as they did in TNG. Even Warp 10 is impossible (Threshold was stricken from the canon after all) let alone Warp 13 using the TNG scale. Honestly it makes as much sense and logic as a child talking about infinity plus 3
Perion 8 months ago
@Perion I don't want to split hairs or get into a debate. In "all good things" the transwarp drive that was used to get faster than warp the scale would allow was not disclosed. There could be a sever explanations to explain this, but they are all speculation, not fact as the canon universe never explained this transwarp drive system that allowed Riker to call out "warp 13." We can guess and guess, and deduce what the possibilities were and are, but only the writers will ever know.
81ECM 8 months ago
@81ECM especially since that timeline isn't going to be explored anymore.
Perion 8 months ago
the scale looks odd...
daxtr5 9 months ago
Of course both the Falcon and the Enterprise are slow compared to Spaceball One which can go ludicrous speed ;)
scottb80 9 months ago
The Falcon no contest. Remember in The Empire Strikes Back when Admiral Piett commented to Vader that "if the Millennium Falcon went into lightspeed it would be on the other side of the galaxy by now"? Either the Star Wars galaxy is a fraction of the size of ours, or Star Wars ships are many times faster because it took Voyager years to get from the Delta quadrant to the Alpha quadrant.
scottb80 9 months ago
Yeah, just pull the Death Star outta your ass.....
Shoulda had the Enterprise destroy the Falcon, and that would be it.
SouthParkBear 9 months ago
death star overkill
van01Hal3n7sAmyhag3r 11 months ago
Very nice. Good job. I thought that you were rather creative.
Thank you.
ScipioAfricanusI 1 year ago
Why is a ship that is funded by a planet being compared to a ship owned by a smuggler? A pointless and loaded comparison.
Orionx30 1 year ago
@Orionx30 Especially when the smuggler ship wins.
Perion 1 year ago
At sub-light speeds the Falcon should have an early advantage with acceleration. However, the Enterprise can push for light speed much more easily. The Falcon's hyperdrive is much faster than warp 10. Also the Enterprise is a much more reliable ship with a full and superlative crew. Plus the Enterprise would not have stopped if they knew it was a race. As ever, SW requires ST to do something completely stupid to win.
DocWolph 1 year ago
@DocWolph uh, the Enterprise can push for warp more easily because it's allot slower, so it doesn't require calculations beforehand.
As for reliability, the worst thing that will happen on the falcon is something will fail to work, while the Enterprise will blow up if you sneeze at it.
Perion 1 year ago
@Perion For Sub light, the Enterprise uses Impulse drives, which are pretty much a form of ion drive not unlike the Falcon. Warp uses a totally different engine system. Warp speeds are magnitudes greater that light speed.
The Falcon has NEVER been hit with anything larger than a TIE fighter's lasers. The Ent-D has been battered by battleships, dripping into stars, manhandled by cosmic beings, and more. The Falcon is the junker as are most SW vessels.
DocWolph 1 year ago
@DocWolph The Enterprise's Impulse drives are limited to 1,000g acceleration as the design goal, the Falcon can keep up with X-Wings and even at times outrun TIE Interceptors, which have 5 to 6 times that level of acceleration.
TIE FIghter guns are rated in the double digit terawatts, while mere tripple digit gigawatts are enough to blow through Enterprise shields.
The Falcon has been hit repeatedly from the point defense guns on an ISD, which are roughly on par with photon torpedoes.
Perion 1 year ago
Some of SW tech is far inferior to that of ST. The Falcon has a radar-style dish, Star Destroyers have radomes (golf ball type radar). This technology is obsolete in Trek which has sensors. And lets not forget that the mighty Death Star couldn't detect any life-forms on the Falcon after it had captured it. It required a scanning crew to board the ship. And a Star Destroyer couldn't detect the Falcon sitting on its hull in ESB. The Enterprise could scan every lifeform on the Death Star in seconds
masere 1 year ago
@masere Star Trek sensors look like radar dishes too, just look at a cross section of the Enterprise D, or a glance at Kirk's Enterprise for that matter. The Falcon is a smuggling ship so it is quite obvious that it has specialized equipment and materials designed to block scanners.
Those dishes are capable of sending signals to converse 100,000 ly away in real time, they are called Hyperwave, and are vastly superior to Subspace communications and sensors.
Never judge something on appearance.
Perion 1 year ago
Also Keep in mind that the Death Star is made out of a material (Quadanium) stronger than that of Regular Star Destroyers, which are already made out of a material (Durasteel) which itself is stronger than Neutronium, which Trek weapons are useless against and Trek Scanners cannot penetrate.
The Death Star can jam sensors so badly it will mess with engine performance and you won't even be able to tell if it's shields are up or not, flying into Imperial ECM is like flying into a mutara nebula
Perion 1 year ago
lol. a hoopty drag racing a Saleen S7. ENTERPRISE RULES!
CherryONeil 1 year ago
7:54 lol
keegan47401 1 year ago
The funniest part of this whole thing is reading people's comments afterwards and realizing they're actually arguing about fantastical trivia. Your nonsensical debates amuse me :)
hubellicious 1 year ago
oh, @ 7:25 that was hilarious!!!
smokeykit57 1 year ago
in star trek the next generation technical manual it said a cochrane is = to the speed of light (light speed) so at warp factor 5 enterprise would be going 214 cochranes = 214 times faster than light speed and the falcon only goes light speed
lionq1 1 year ago
@lionq1 actually the falcon does roughly 100,000,000 x the speed of light considering how fast it goes from one side of the galaxy to the other.
The terms "lightspeed" in star wars refers to any speed 1c and above, it doesn't mean 1c and only 1c.
also 0.5 past lightspeed doesn't mean 1.5c, otherwise making the kessel run would take 25+ years either way, and lucas confirmed that Han wasn't making things up or getting the meaning of parsec wrong, just that people misinterpreted what he said.
Perion 1 year ago
@lionq1 No the falcon goes roughly 100,000,000 times faster than the speed of light from on screen travel times across the galaxy shown repeatedly, and scaled to travel times shown in the prequels from other, slower craft. (and according to Lucas himself the SW galaxy is actually slightly bigger than our own, so the tiny galaxy theory is bunk) the term "lightspeed" in Star Wars is synonymous with "Faster than light" or "FTL" anything from Warp 1 to Warp 10 would be considered "Lightspeed"
Perion 1 year ago
@Perion
NO, the Enterprise goes 100 ZILLION KONTILLION times faster!!!
Janeway proved it in "Endgame," when Voyager went 40,000 light-years in SECONDS!
SouthParkBear 9 months ago
@SouthParkBear Your joking right? She travelled back in time 26 years, it's more than likely she travelled the distance WHILE going through time, IE making a journey that would take 26 years to make, but because she was travelling through time as well as space, it appeared to be near instantaneous.
Perion 9 months ago
look, any ship approch light speed without using warp drive is going to be crushed into matters, so, really, in reailtiy, the millenium falcon is going to be destroy when closing near 99% of lightspeed.
gundam226 1 year ago
Job of fanboy...
2misterA 1 year ago
the millenium falcon can travel half way across the galaxy in about 10 minutes. Assuming a galaxy about the size of the milky way, that is 50000light years/600seconds=2 628 000 000c. I'm pretty sure that's faster than many tachyons, so it would be very difficult for the enterprise to compete.
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soldier4jesus2 1 year ago
I'm gonna nerd out here, so...
WTF!?
I like Star Wars and Star Trek equally, so not being biased here when I say
There is no friggen way a star wars ship can outrun a galaxy class starship!
Star Trek ships use a little thing called WARP DRIVE which is many times faster than light
While in Star Wars the Falcon only uses Light speed,so how the hell does it catch up?!
Btw, phaser pwn lazers... so Star Trek is better in technology, besides lightsabers, and Star Wars is king of action scenes.
dreamrend 1 year ago
@dreamrend few problems with that line of logic,
One, the term "Lightspeed" is used colloquially in star wars, Obi-Wan made a round trip of 100,000 ly in Episode 2, which requires speeds faster than any shipboard drive seen in Star Trek, faster than Transwarp, Faster than Slipstream, etc.
Two, Star Wars "Lasers" are lasers only in name, and even then Lasers of sufficient power can damage and even destroy federation ships, what matters is power output, not the name of the weapon.
Perion 1 year ago
A Photon Torpedoes is worth 24 megatons, that might not sound like much compared to some modern nukes but considering their small size compared to say, the Tsar Bomba and the fact that they are conventional weapons rather than superweapons it's very powerful by modern standards.
By Imperial standards however it's like a firecracker against an M1 Abrams, as even their medium guns are worth 200 gigatons a shot and Star Destroyers can kick out hundreds of teratons a second with all guns blazing.
Perion 1 year ago
@Perion one problem with that theory though, transwarp is instant transport to any part of the universe, and without warp drive Star Wars ships would be torn apart instantly at the speed of light.
CptPicard832 1 year ago
@CptPicard832 that's not true at all.
Warp 10 on the TNG scale is instant, and while it is considered a form of Transwarp, Transwarp does not automatically mean Warp 10.
The Transwarp drives on a Borg cube is slower than Slipstream, Slipstream takes months to cross a quadrant.
Star Wars ships use a highly advanced form of Slipstream that is many, many times faster, allowing travel across the galaxy in a matter of hours.
Slipstream doesn't cause a ship to be torn apart.
Perion 1 year ago
@Perion Quantum Slipstream can transverse the galaxy in a few weeks. When faced with that possibility, Voyager could have gotten home w/ QS in two weeks, instead of the nearly 70 years at high warp. Transwarp is faster than Warp. How much faster was never explained. SW Hyperdrive and QS are similar and may in fact be completely equal. From what I get, everything in Star Trek Online is now canon. So QS is part of ST FTL tech now.
DocWolph 1 year ago
@DocWolph even if STO was canon (which it isn't) then you would note that QSD is only available to Vice Admirals and even then can only be used for limited periods of time, to cross half a dozen lightyears in fact, and requires a lengthy recharge in order to be used again.
QSD takes months to cross one quadrant according to "Hope and fear" while a Hyperdrive can cross the entire galaxy in hours as observed in the films repeatedly.
Perion 1 year ago
@Perion Do you play STO or at least someone how does even half seriously? Trying to DQ tech because it's "high ranking only" does not excuse it from the total tech canon. Albeit 30yrs after ST:X and Voyager.
The distance Voyage was from home in the episode "Hope and Fear" was still over 65% of the width of the Milky Way. Also I never said they QS was as fast only that it could be as fast as SW HD. Besides for a Universe built on exploration, taking months rather than decades is good enough.
DocWolph 1 year ago
@DocWolph It's relevant because only a relative few ships have it, while Hyperdrive is deployed fleetwide.
The Falcon isn't a junker, The Twilight was a junker, since for crying out loud it's Acceleration compensators (the Star Wars version of Inertial Dampeners) didn't even work right!
The Falcon is an old freighter with overclocked parts, it looks like a Junker on the outside, but it outperforms anything in Starfleet.
SW Vessels are thousands of years ahead of ST vessels
Perion 1 year ago
Lets face it, Star Wars technology is more advanced than Star Trek thechnology.
EseptiquisimoMexico 1 year ago
not tryin to beef up a nerd war , just searching 4 clarity :D
exilejedi7 1 year ago
@Perion the star wars databank doesn't say weather 0.5 or 0.75 is faster... but mara jades ship Jade Shadow was 0.5 .. & also annakin had a ship Jabitha wich was 0.4 ... so going by your calculations that would make annies ship the the ... fastest :D
exilejedi7 1 year ago
@Perion ... outrider slower?? im sure i remember dash rendar boasting its superiority in capabilities & speed over the falcon in shadows of the empire or something
exilejedi7 1 year ago
SUPER FACKINg COOL!!!!!! jajajajaja the milenium falcon ROCKSS!! and interpraise SOOOOO noñossss!!!
MrMexicancurios 1 year ago
I gotta say....WELL DONE. That was a great video.
torskdiver 1 year ago
I think Mr. Star Trek is a sore loser, lol. :)
kfa888 1 year ago
That was brilliant, very entertaining and so satisifying as been a bit of a geek myself, well done
Barneystudioz 1 year ago
anything with a hyperdrive will go faster than something with a warpdrive because a hyperdrive let someone travel at light speed
straton616 1 year ago
technically Warp Drive is capable of anywhere between the speed of light to roughly 3,000 times the speed of light with TNG era warp 9.6 taking nearly a century to cross the galaxy.
A class 0.5 Hyperdrive is capable of roughly 100,000,000 times the speed of light, crossing the entire galaxy in about a day.
So yes, Hyperdrive is Faster.
Perion 1 year ago
the falcon wins,,, but the outrider was faster .... the death star owNz all !!
exilejedi7 1 year ago
Actually the Outrider is slower than the Falcon, Falcon had a 0.5 Hyperdrive, Outrider had a 0.75, Slave 1 is in between at 0.7 so slightly faster than Outrider.
If the Death Star II was completed then indeed it would own practically all.
Perion 1 year ago
As a fan of both, I think both ships are equal in speed. Not so much in weapons and defenses, but speed, very equal. Oh and funny ending.
startrekgamer 1 year ago
@startrekgamer
Actually the falcon is faster. it can make trips across a galaxy in an hour...which would take DECADES for any federation vessel.
blacksun2175 1 year ago
@blacksun2175 If in The TOS era yes but in the TNG era shown here, weeks.
startrekgamer 1 year ago
@startrekgamer
No, thats a lie, it was estimated to take voyager 75 years to cross the delta quadrant.
Even with the help of kes's 10K ly boost and then the borg hub it sill took them over a decade...now that's slow.
blacksun2175 1 year ago
@blacksun2175 The Delta Quadrant was a different galaxy.
startrekgamer 1 year ago
@startrekgamer
Quadrant: a quarter...of the milky way.
So we clearly see that the delta quadrant isn't another galaxy, especially soince Voyager flat out stated it was still the milkyway.
FAIL
So now you're making shit up, I can't say that I am shocked.
blacksun2175 1 year ago
the mf does .5 past light speed, thats half of warp 1
mrfclarke 1 year ago
Sorry, but you are wrong on several counts,
One, even if we interpreted him referring to meaning 1.5c (which is impossible due to on screen travel distances and times) it would still be higher than warp 1. (closer to warp 1.14)
however Han's ETA to Alderaan was 02:00 hours The departure time relative to han's clock is unknown, canon maps put the distance between tatooine and alderaan at over 42,000 ly
At 1.5c it would take 3 years to so much as go from earth to alpha centauri, a mere 4.4ly
Perion 1 year ago
The official explanation is that "past lightspeed" refers to the FTL drive grade, so you can get say, "2,500g acceleration and it makes 2 Past Lightspeed". as in, once you use your FTL, it makes that # grade.
Say I invite someone to my ship and it's pretty average in speed, I'll tell them that "It makes 2 past lightspeed" a friend of mine has a higher end drive, "you should see Garid's, his can make 1 past lightspeed, he's getting a new navcomputer which should push it to 0.9"
Perion 1 year ago
A ship like the one I just described would be ne2 and a half times faster than the Enterprise D at sublight, and at a class 2 it would be 25,000 times faster than the Enterprise D's warp
A Class 2 Hyperdrive is roughly equal to Warp 293 (Cochrane scale) or Warp 9.9999957 (TNG Scale) or 25,000,000c (SI units)
A Class 0 Hyperdrive would be equal to Warp X (Cochrane) Warp 10 (TNG) or an Infinite improbability Drive.
Perion 1 year ago
Fuck yeah, Empire FTMFW
synystersevilheir 1 year ago
Am I the only one who thinks that Star Wars and Star Trek are not supposed to be compared to each other?
greatbowlsofgravy 1 year ago
@greatbowlsofgravy Only so Trekkies don't get their arses handed to them constantly
synystersevilheir 1 year ago
@greatbowlsofgravy no your not
mrfclarke 1 year ago
FORCE ALL THE WAY!!"
memory10031993 1 year ago
thats what i call a saw looser (enterprise)
i like how in the end everyone got destroyed lol
StarwarsmadTJ 1 year ago
I normally don't like to say negative things, but this would be SO much better without the hokey CG spaceships, especially when there is so much source material to work with.
SothManigan 1 year ago
LOL
itzhakts 1 year ago
YAY! WE WoN! *fires torpedo* AAAGH
Vader: this will b a day well remembered
LOLZ
yowza234 1 year ago
awesome, and lols at the end
starwarsgeek42 1 year ago
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starwarsgeek42 1 year ago
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Yes, it's true. The Enterprise-D would be scrapped for spare parts in the Star Wars Universe. More than likely the Empire would take her and make kitchen utensils out of her puny hull.... That's about all the use that the Ent-D would have for the Empire.
ImperatorDerGalaxis 1 year ago
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Look at us arguing over fucking fantasy shit, like it's real. It's fucking fake as boobs in California. Who gives a shit. I'm just saying, I'm a more entertained by Star trek than starwars. It doesn't mean a fucking thing except that.
Hey guys, I've got an idea, why don't we just get a fucking life?
I'm out, and for ever done with this stupid fucking argument. May as well be arguing over what color is better Blue or Red? FUCKING STUPID SHIT
LANSING52 2 years ago
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@LANSING52
Maybe in hollywood, but out here in the mountainous regions they're real :D
So you hate Star Wars we get it :\, unlike you we actually like both (except VOY&ENT)..
No this argument wasn't over which was better, that is irrelevant.
It was about who could kick who's ass, and, their is plenty of evidence that shows trek going down faster than than a rat vs DaJuggernaut. :P
blacksun2175 2 years ago
You can't fight what you and your sensors can't see. Defiant pwns falcon
3 ta 2
LANSING52 2 years ago
Are you fucking kidding me? You put the Millennium Falcon against the Enterprise-D? The Enterprise-D would easily go faster than that piece of space shit.
pokerguy17 2 years ago
Enterprise D's max sustainable speed is Warp 9.2, which is equal to 1600 x the speed of light
The Millennium Falcon has a Class 0.5 Hyperdrive, which means it can go about 100,000,000 x the speed of light.
Perion 2 years ago
You mean when it works?
While their trying to get it to work that ship is blown from the stars! I'm just saying...
LANSING52 2 years ago
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Did you even pay attention to the movies?
The Rebellion fixed that problem.
The fact that the Falcons hull has material that blocks transporter, not to mention shields and a jamming system(which blocks transporters too) there aren't going to be any red/yellow shirts beaming in, hell thanks to it's weapons there won't be a defiant.
Pretty sad if one of your dedicated war ships it taken out by a smuggler ship.XDDDDD
blacksun2175 2 years ago
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The jamming would also make the Falcon pretty well impossible for the Defiant to get a lock on, and since the Defiant's accuracy is already notoriously poor, manual targeting is always a big deal for Defiant class ships "we can shoot but god knows what we'll hit" and the reaction of the Valiant's crew when they learn they'd have to do more than press a button to hit the enemy ship.
Meanwhile the falcon can dance around their phaser and quantum torpedoes and hit them with a concussion missile.
Perion 2 years ago
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also fun fact, the Concussion missiles the Falcon had were larger and more powerful than the ones on Slave 1 in AOTC, so 1 Concussion missile would be much more firepower than 4 Quantum torpedoes.
Perion 2 years ago
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@Perion
You're right I wasn't even thinking about the Falocons Missles.
But, why would Solo bother wasting one missle on the defiant when he could just man his 32,000+TW Turret and blast it to oblivion.
Meanwhile Chewie is like: RRRAA WRRARR RRU RHROOO?!?!?(Tralslation WTF was that?!?!)
blacksun2175 2 years ago
I'll be honest, Star wars, aside from fun storytelling, is for me anyway, TOTAL FUCKING GARBAGE! The original three films were at lest tolerable. The last of the new series was not bad, but all in all. Between the hype and everything. My life would have been better having not seen any of the prequels. I may be the biggest new, STAR WARS HATING PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
LANSING52 2 years ago
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@LANSING52
Well it was obvious you hated SW, no big suprise there.
blacksun2175 2 years ago
@LANSING52 how can anyone hate star wars
makutateridax20 1 year ago
Fuck outta here.. that's is the perfect example of trivial knowledge.. LOL
K1dFr3sh777 1 year ago
REGARDLESS the USS Defiant would blast that tiny little ship to dust. endgame, period.
LANSING52 2 years ago
@LANSING52
LOL
Nope, the defiant's heaviest weapon is rated at 48 megatons, while the concussion missles carried by the falcon are rated at 192+ megatons over four times the difiants weapons yield.
The defiant would go down faster than chewbacca could say:Grrrraarar.
XDDDD
blacksun2175 2 years ago
Not that any of that would matter since the Defiant can cloak COMPLETELY, not just on radar, but also to the naked eye! UNLIKE, ummmmm
you cheeseburger falcon
LANSING52 2 years ago
@LANSING52
Yeah that cloak was borrowed from the romulans, it's not standard equiptment.
Nice try, either way the ship still has mass nad the falcons sensors can detect mass. XD
The Falcon durger would cause a massive coronary to the fatass defiant XD
blacksun2175 2 years ago
So what if it's not standard equipment, is the Falcon a standard ship? HELLZ NO, Soooooooo, don't try and pussy foot around the Defiant blasting hella holes through that tiny little ship.
I didn't even mention the tractor beam and the transporter capabilities. That small ass ship would be stuffed with 12 armed Starfleet security personnel before they could even get that crappy hunk of trash to actually work, and run away from a fight it could never win. I'm just saying...
LANSING52 2 years ago
Yeah...
The thing is a galaxy class star ships shields are dropped and hull damaged after a 400gw shot(TNG:The Survivors).
The Falcons guns are rated at the terrawatt range and up it would PWN the defiant in one shot and still have time for chewbacca to go:GRRRRAWWR(translation:LAAAME)
blacksun2175 2 years ago
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wow, you really are dense, not only is Blacksun Right, but even the Falcon's Hyperdrive is FAR more Reliable than any Warp Core, Why? because the worst thing the Hyperdrive will do is not work, it won't blow up just because someone looked at it funny.
ISDs have class 2 hyperdrives which are 25,000,000c
VSDs and Vicstars have Class 1 which are 50,000,000c
0.6 class hyperdrives are standard on Acclamator class Dropships, which are 90,000,000c
Perion 2 years ago
What about the borg vs the federation?
LANSING52 2 years ago
@LANSING52
The borg would be annihalated for various reasons I can't cover in one post.
blacksun2175 2 years ago
cool video though
LANSING52 2 years ago
One problem
If the millinium falcon is traveling at light speed and the Startrek universe lists light speed as "warp one" the MFalcon couldn't stand a chance. Especially if the Enterprise is at warp"9" as is stated in your video.
I'm just saying...
LANSING52 2 years ago
@LANSING52
The millenium falcon can travel faster than light, In the first star wars movie han made a trip from tatooine to alderaan, the farthest world on the outer rim to a core world 60-65 thousand lightyears apart in just a few hours.
The u.s.s. voyager made a similar trip, but it took 75 years at warp 9.
blacksun2175 2 years ago
Wow that was VERY VERY GOOD!
gokufievel 2 years ago
ha ha ha! brilliant!
JSamurai79 2 years ago
but then at the end, Q arrives and snaps his finger and the death star fits in the palm of his hand
Q wins
game over
elcap22 2 years ago
Ha nice finish +10 for funny
Tibarus 2 years ago
WTF? The MF can traverse its Galaxy in mere hours...the Enterprise on the other hand 1.5 lightyears in a day. Warp drive is slow as fuck.
ImperatorDerGalaxis 2 years ago
Commentary: Hyperspace is hundreds of thousands of times faster than that of Warp 9 or what ever the highest warp is in TNG. The Falcon could go from Earth to the delta quadrant and back faster than the Enterprise could going to Vulcan on a 1 way trip.
rebuiltHK47 2 years ago
+1
Hyperspace is insanely fast when compared to Warp Drive. A trip across the galaxy with a hyperdrive could take a few weeks if they were being frugal, as Hyperdrive fuel can be expensive.
It takes a warpdrive 75+ years to make it to the next quadrant.
Tibarus 2 years ago
Statement: Thank you. Indeed.
Query: Can you believe that some one said that 1 SD cannot even take out DS9's shields with it's turbo lasers?
rebuiltHK47 2 years ago
DS9? Maybe what, a Medium scale resupply and repair dock?
A wing of tie fighters/xwings could do medium damage, a Coreilian Light Corvette (Tantive IV) could probably inflict heavy to critical, I'd hate to see what an ISD would do to it... Over kill much?
Tibarus 2 years ago
Agreement: I know. They only have to deploy a squadron of TIE/sa Bombers to take out DS9's shields.
Recitation: He said, " DS9's shields would be immune to a turboLASER because it is a LASER."
Statement: I then copied and pasted the entire process of how a turbo laser works. It took over 5 replies to complete. LOL. The movie was worse because it showed 3 phaser hits from DS9 hitting an ISD and the ISD was destroyed. Silly Trekkies.
rebuiltHK47 2 years ago 4
Don't get me wrong, I love Trek, I wouldn't be a SciFi fan if I didn't, but in terms of sheer firepower and tactical ability, Star Wars wins, hands down, every time.
Prime examples of this are: Death Star, Sun Killer, SSD
Tibarus 2 years ago
Clarification: I am a Trek fan too. I was referring to the meatbag Trekkies who think Trek is greater than SW.
Reminder: Don't forget about age, medical capabilities, transportation (through space and from one building to another (I don't mean to discredit the teleporter)), several ecumenopolis.
Query: Did you know that teleportation could be achieved with the Force? Though the draw back was that it corrupted the user because it broke the natural laws of space and time and was rarely used.
rebuiltHK47 2 years ago
You mean the ones that can't think for themselves unless it involves Star Trek?
A: No I did not know that.
Yeah I was never a fan of the teleporters, they seemed to gimmicky for my tastes, Give me a shuttle any day.
Tibarus 2 years ago
Agreement: Yeah those are the meatbags I'm speaking of. Also the ones who are determined that Trek can defeat Wars even though they know they're wrong and start using foul language. It is quite amusing.
Statement: I would prefer a shuttle too.
rebuiltHK47 2 years ago
Just goes to show that the Trekies don't really like loosing to a superior franchise.
lol.
Just kidding!
I like both series but i like Star Wars more. =D
clever video.
5/5.
Jericho1138 2 years ago 2
hyperspace is about warp-somewhere-in-the-hundreds-or-thousands
fajner1 2 years ago
Correction: Hyperspace in no warp speed. The difference between Warp speed and Hyperspace is the difference between the Q and Humans. Hyperspace is thousands of millions faster than normal space and the pathetic Warp speed.
rebuiltHK47 2 years ago
The closest thing Star Trek EVER had to coming "close" (about as close as a bicycle compared to a 911 Turbo is speed) was the Quantum Slip Stream we saw in Voyager. Or the Caretaker's Array.
Tibarus 2 years ago
and laser cannons are not lasers, they are plasma-like things
fajner1 2 years ago
Super condensed very high energy plasma blasts.
Tibarus 2 years ago
very nice about the .5 past lightspeed thing but we all know tat han solo words things wrong: like he said he made the kessel run in less than 5 parsecs or whatever. thats like saying u ran thru the mall in under half a mile. wtf? and its not .5 past lightspeed. is hyperspeed .5. lower number it is the faster it is
fajner1 2 years ago
Actually, saying that he made the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs was quite an accomplishment because it meant he had to cut close to a cluster of black holes known as the Maw. Most ships that try that get sucked in, but the Falcon's engines were strong enough not to be.
Also, .5 past lightspeed is just slang. Han Solo is not a scientist.
Zorc620 2 years ago
well no Lucas wrote that not knowing what it actually meant. It was Star Wars fans that have tried to make sense of his script.
Lucas honestly thought a parsec was actually a measurement of time.
jjjameson33 2 years ago
VERY stupid on the speed thing.
the falcon would catch up way faster than that, the enterprise cannot see the falcon in hyperspace and the falcon cannon attack in hyperspace.
fajner1 2 years ago 2
Agreement: Indeed.
Fact: The falcon would have been in Hyperspace which is not in our existence. Thus it would have not been seen. The falcon could have sat there and waited 'til the Enterprise was 5 seconds away from the line and went into Hyperspace and won.
rebuiltHK47 2 years ago
Kinda sore losers arent they? :P
dhart1977 2 years ago
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Hilarious but stupid ending
SeanConnery9000 2 years ago
NERD WARS GO! 10 bucks on the star wars nerds!
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GermanBrother93 2 years ago
If han had said "it makes .7 past light speed" it would actually be slower than a .5, he was stating the Hyperdrive Class, not the speed in relation to multiples of light speed.
The Falcon's hyperdrive can make it go the equivalent of Warp 9.99999996 to Warp 9.9999999996.
also Full Impulse has an acceleration of 1000g, most fighters in Star Wars can go 4000g and even Star Destroyers go 3000g their top speed in space is never stated however..
Perion 2 years ago 5
Falcon Laser cannons have an energy output of well over 8 terawatts, Enterprise Phasers have an output of only 3.6 gigawatts
fighter scale Medium Concussion Missiles have a yield of 150 megatons, use a shaped charge allowing safe fire at point blank range, they home in and chase their targets
Federation Capital ship Photon Torpedoes have a total yield of 48 megatons, but lack shaped charges so only half is usable and cannot be fired too close without self damage,.they do not chase targets.
Perion 2 years ago 5
just because most Races in Trek cannot make better Lasers than Phasers doesn't mean that Phasers are inherently better,
quite simply they reached the limit of what outputs they could get with that tech and switched to another, in conundrum they mention the fact that each of their "enemies" have Lasers in the Kilojoule to Megajoule range and that's for capital ships, they have never dealt with a race that has "Lasers" in the Terajoule range, for FIGHTERS!.
and Falcon over 8 Terajoules, my bad
Perion 2 years ago 7
.5 past light speed means a class 0.5 hyperdrive on an inverse scale where 4 is slower than 1.
Star Wars vessels can cross the galaxy in a few weeks, while Star Trek vessels can only cross their small sector of the galaxy in that time (note how it takes days for