hey same song lol.... I don't think you can change pre-programming, I think you can be thought to suppress it to the point where you don't need to worry about it till your like old and senile but I don't think you can change it, ah just my thoughts.
@swaks808 the word program means it can be changed because it simply is a program and not real as actuality. thus we can de-program ourselves through self forgiveness and hen through corrective living and application we can re program ourselves because we programmed ourselves in time and space. so the same way we can do it as life, as one and equal as the physical and to what is best for all. sorry for the late respond, I only now got your comment (it's weird) South African internet is crap.
@GianRobberts01 So for animals we can see their change in behavior as we change ourselves and thus live the correction, that is how people can live with lions, obviously this stuff requires a lot of time and discipline, and none of us has this time, thus we need a change with in the monetary system that can allow us to focus more on living and being creative and expressive rather than only fear and survival as we all live now.
@GianRobberts01 ah hey gian, all good; i think your getting more into the realm of psychology here. i mean, i believe to a certain degree we can "deprogram," or reprogram ourselves, but this is can only be done through self-awareness and self-consciousness, and if that is so, then the choice of change is one of self-interest. which reminds me, what do you mean by "self-forgiveness?" it sounds like self-pity to me; i mean i understand "self-forgiveness," which is to forgive ones self.
I've been following this series on Animal Planet about rescued orang-utans. In the wild they live in solitary but on this island they lived in a large group. They were fed - so there was no need for territory. All the orang-utans started to behave social - make friends, play, stick together etc. So the moment the battle for food was gone, the apes were able to develop (or give in) other behaviour. Quite cool
@IngridBloemheuvel in a sociology, i guess its a standard that advancement cant happen if survival is the main issue . atleast we know that advancement goes toward peace. i like that
I wonder when the bird has no access to sharp branches, thorns etc - then does she eat her food the way it is? I guess when held in captivity and maybe (I'm not quite sure this would work) have chicks that do not have access to thorns neither, will the pre-programming eventually stop?
this reminds me of a lady who raises bonobo's and they know a lot of words and can make their own sentences and stuff with word charts. Like "pizza" was not on the chart and the bonobo pointond on "bread, tomatoes and onion" . And 1 baby was being raised by humans and it was 2nd generation and it starte dto show non-bonobo like traits such as sucking its thumb.
hey same song lol.... I don't think you can change pre-programming, I think you can be thought to suppress it to the point where you don't need to worry about it till your like old and senile but I don't think you can change it, ah just my thoughts.
swaks808 1 year ago
@swaks808 the word program means it can be changed because it simply is a program and not real as actuality. thus we can de-program ourselves through self forgiveness and hen through corrective living and application we can re program ourselves because we programmed ourselves in time and space. so the same way we can do it as life, as one and equal as the physical and to what is best for all. sorry for the late respond, I only now got your comment (it's weird) South African internet is crap.
GianRobberts01 7 months ago
@GianRobberts01 So for animals we can see their change in behavior as we change ourselves and thus live the correction, that is how people can live with lions, obviously this stuff requires a lot of time and discipline, and none of us has this time, thus we need a change with in the monetary system that can allow us to focus more on living and being creative and expressive rather than only fear and survival as we all live now.
GianRobberts01 7 months ago
@GianRobberts01 ah hey gian, all good; i think your getting more into the realm of psychology here. i mean, i believe to a certain degree we can "deprogram," or reprogram ourselves, but this is can only be done through self-awareness and self-consciousness, and if that is so, then the choice of change is one of self-interest. which reminds me, what do you mean by "self-forgiveness?" it sounds like self-pity to me; i mean i understand "self-forgiveness," which is to forgive ones self.
swaks808 7 months ago
Cool point Gian, thanks for sharing!
MarleyDawkins 1 year ago
really good points!
IanReyR 1 year ago
Fascinating, thanks Gian!
KellyPosey 1 year ago
I've been following this series on Animal Planet about rescued orang-utans. In the wild they live in solitary but on this island they lived in a large group. They were fed - so there was no need for territory. All the orang-utans started to behave social - make friends, play, stick together etc. So the moment the battle for food was gone, the apes were able to develop (or give in) other behaviour. Quite cool
IngridBloemheuvel 1 year ago
@IngridBloemheuvel in a sociology, i guess its a standard that advancement cant happen if survival is the main issue . atleast we know that advancement goes toward peace. i like that
justanothermessanger 1 year ago
I wonder when the bird has no access to sharp branches, thorns etc - then does she eat her food the way it is? I guess when held in captivity and maybe (I'm not quite sure this would work) have chicks that do not have access to thorns neither, will the pre-programming eventually stop?
IngridBloemheuvel 1 year ago
this reminds me of a lady who raises bonobo's and they know a lot of words and can make their own sentences and stuff with word charts. Like "pizza" was not on the chart and the bonobo pointond on "bread, tomatoes and onion" . And 1 baby was being raised by humans and it was 2nd generation and it starte dto show non-bonobo like traits such as sucking its thumb.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
Nasty bird habit. Thanks for the update Gian!
ValentinRozman 1 year ago
Thankyou for sharing this Gian
clk211bu 1 year ago
interesting, thanks. how about stating the Self-forgivenesses as the bird, after you have placed the bird in and as yourself
s4szafrikaequality 1 year ago
cool point and easy to see placed in that perspective. thanks for sharing this.
KristinaSalas 1 year ago
very interesting indeed, cool vlog here - looking forward to further cool reports on the roommate-birds
thanks!
BellaBargilly 1 year ago
Human Robots and Bird Robots -- all work the same way
EqualMoney101 1 year ago