Grind Time Now Presents: Rheteric vs Dutch Vega pt.2

[NUKEViCTiM]

Rheteric owns

[MurphGiovanni]

i feel embarrassed for dutch...he has so much intensity behind his delivery but his bars are really weak...almost every bar made me wonder "where is the punchline? WHERE IS IT!!!!!????"

[getalifesoon]

i totally understand rheterics style and humor.

I dont understand those who dont.

[SuperTruthful]

Dutch vega was awful. I'm from NY!

[stylezNout]

damn no wonder they say the fresh coast scene has barely any wack MCs battling, this ny dude was horrible

[SuperTruthful]

@stylezNout ..I guy and you're judging all NY emcc's. Smh!

[Cvasir]

@InkByShy HAHAHAHAHAHAH. Word.

[pidos847]

Rheteric sucks and I don't think he's ever won a battle in his life! If you agree thumbs up!

[DoseOneIsJesus]

@pidos847 FAIL

[DLcKxFTR]

@pidos847 the funy thing is that he won this battle right here..

[deepfriedtnecks]

Wow not even close....Rheteric was hi as a kite and still bodied Dutch that's y dude doesn't battle nemore. I used 2 think NY had biased crowds but shit Dutch couldn't get nething more than a few pity laughs lmao

[Doonie602]

My fucking face is burning from laughing so hard at Rheterics shit.

[MurphGiovanni]

why is kap kallous always talking about grandmas...he's such an overweight douche

[MurphGiovanni]

@viethustla9 naturally...wrc was freestyle...this is written

[gokupitsirikas]

dutch vega is fuckin wack!!!!!

[wertytrewqa]

@gokupitsirikas u know a guys whack when u skip his verses to go to rheteric's

[skateDT]

It's funny how dutch vega laughs at his own jokes, since no one else will...

[acdoubleu]

Dutch was better in the third but Rheteric still ate him.

[boogie504]

Rheteric was trash in WRC, watch those old battles, teamed up with NoCan.. he sucked and he was a thuggish ruggish bone, everyone said he sucked so he bought a costume and started writing poetry, lol

[JamieKusick]

goddddddddddddddddd dutch is garbage.... how is he in GT? he's perfect for the georgia devision lol

[falloutintohell]

borrrriiinnngg

[campKILLer]

Props to rhet on the Black Flag shirt

[SonOfDune]

these were some short rounds. dutch needed a lil more preperation and rhet needs aa. great battle btween big personalities. rhet gets tha w.

[slimboi17]

Why dis this puerto rican asked for overtime?he got his ass murder twice just for that. Lol good shit tho from both of them rheteric is funny as fuck

[portalezz]

@slimboi17 love of the sport man

[slimboi17]

@portalezz u said it brotha

[KristopherYoung]

They are both pretty whack.

[Hblockballa]

in rhterics defense he was fuckin wasted

[JamieKusick]

@Hblockballa he may have been wasted but he still bodies dutch no problem... that's probably why he was wasted. if it were an opponent who was an actual threat he probably woulda stayed sober. which also explains why he didn't have an OT prepared, cuz he knew it wouldn't go that far. AAANNNNND, he freestyled his entire OT and still put Dutch's written OT to shame... Rheteric is actually dope as fuck.

[theace653]

God dont love ugly. Bring it flo battle rap on the iphone.

[Stackman20]

So i guess that means that Rheteric's first verses werent freestyles. his whole shit was weird, but the fact is that Dutch Vega is one of the worst battle rappers I've ever seen and his shit was obv written which is fine, but freestyling would be the only excuse for such piss poor material. If he ever wins a battle... i mean i dont even know, lol

[Ng7solja]

rhet is superior on sum other shit!!!

[JiggityJack]

Seriously, ret is up there with dudes like soul khan, dfd, and jack shitt when it's just fun as fuck to watch them battle...

[beefMERCIFUL]

what the fuck rhet just blew my mind (pause)

new rhet fan instantly

[MurphGiovanni]

how many faggots are going to comment on wapp's weight loss....so the dude lost like 15 lbs....it's not that serious...get off the dude's nuts

[TimothyDeLaGhetto2]

i'm glad wapps is losin weight, but DUDE.. lose the SOUTHPOLE SHIRT!!!

[obeyikon]

your coomment is just wierd.

[fresh33333]

its funny to here what new york dudes think of us cali dudes man i wanna see u foos walk through the south central, EAST LOS, and Oakland then theyll see whats good

[mcraghard24]

lol hahaha lmao nice battle..retheric def got better with his lines and delivery

[H34RTL3SSINS4N3]

Tiger Ty is unbeatable.

He has never lost - imo.

LOL

[FingerSkateSelective]

Frankie Wapps is on crack now?? Holy meth weight loss batman!

[MurphGiovanni]

who the fuck is kap kallous? why is he there all the time?

[gmn545]

"9 months after it was time to deciiiiiide...

It was time to have Dutch, she just passed the Dutchie...to the left hand siiiiiide!"

Hahaha!!

[kingxkissxstealer]

rheteric drunk is the best shit ever. throwin my vote in for rhet vs tiger ty

[GunStreets]

Retheric vs Tiger Ty

make it happen

[beefMERCIFUL]

...they did

[GunStreets]

00:23

asshole with Teeth''

Rofl

[cheochivista]

RHETERIC VS TIGER TY, REPOST!

[Jerryrig8]

I love how rappers like Wapps try to downplay rhet like he isn't a threat to them by calling rhet wierd .

[100Versityle]

man battle rappers are gettin weird lol. I hate all them homo bars about nasty shit.

[SinTaReiUsA]

"Ur so stupid u probabbly take collect calls from collection agencies" lolllllllllllll

[rorek90]

vega came out blazing this round but ended it soft

[vebdaklu]

Rhet was wasted as fuck...He also killed this homeless dude...

[gedbeat15]

Arnold Schwarz-molester!!!! lol!

[HipHopSamurai84]

did he just say they eat shit? lol

[MrBubble89]

Dutch Vega is the shit that gets caught on your heel.

[Egon420]

hahaha rhet just keeps getting funnier.

[visualkei72]

"my music is amazing, your music should duck!"

lol, that's Rheteric for you. fucking abstract yet makes so much sense, i fuckin love this guy.

[gedbeat15]

even when he said "speaking of ass..." it was fuckin hilarious

[clairvoyable]

Dutch Vega is far from being the best but the crowd slept on some of his lines

[malcolmxbox]

dutch vega came weak as fuck

[warhard02]

dutch vega is garbage

[manap3000]

2:45 - 3:05 is the worst build up/use of prop (not really but w.e.) i have ever seen

plain and simple, dutch vega is just hella painful to watch, am i wrong?

[kyokushinkid420]

Hell no, he stinks...someone should wave a skunk in front of him

[Wobbothe3rd]

I hate when rappers do that - this big build up to this climactic non-punchline. Its not just whack, its actually painful and annoying to watch and hear. WTF was he thinking?

[bctvtw8]

rheteric is a legened!!

[onionbootyman]

arnold schwartzmolester in a movie called kindergarten cock lmao this nigga raw.

[xEVANNx]

nice glasses dutch vega you fucking idiot.

[MurphGiovanni]

you're the fuckin idiot, bro....it's rheteric who is wearing the glasses NOT vega....and those are dope....kid cudi rocks those frames...and kid cudi is the man...so those glasses are cool by association

[xEVANNx]

i was talking about the glasses dutch vega puts on at the end of the round to add some sort of "effect" to his shitty raps.

settle down, no need to chew out guys on youtube.

[MurphGiovanni]

ahhh...my bad

[xEVANNx]

s'all good

[trooperjoe73]

It's crazy how dudes think that because they are from New York, (Brooklyn) that for some reason they are hot.

Dutch clearly has no skill, talent or anything else that would justify his existence in Grind Time.

This is a real bad look for NY.

[MurphGiovanni]

damn...wapps lost his weight....and he even changed his voice

[gedbeat15]

yeah, i seriously don't believe that's Wapps. lol

[rafsdaman10]

fankie whapps lost so much dam weight, he aint a fat git anymore lol! i didn't even recognise him at first!

[ashtonjamal]

smh.....this was a real 1 sided battle...Rheteric killed em.

[THlostOT]

2 thoughts

rheteric styled that freestyle harrrrrd

and dutch vega is the worst rapper ever.

[JWong1790]

pariah is gay, all you hear him say after every round is "bx what up"....STFU how bout that

[msanei3]

rheteric is nasty

[TdotLam]

2:27 Rheteric thinking " who the eff is making all that grunting noise?!?!"

[yougotawar]

WOW. Rheteric is super impressive with this freestyle. Super unique. love that shit.

[wobblegook]

y did i watch this?

[Ndure13]

these dudes are just so fucking retarded people have no choice but to just laugh at them.

[JovNBee]

Vega was garbage. Good job Rhet. Is wapps dating Jenny Craig.

[BobbyDigMOB]

Terrible not even worthy of anybodys main event

[tarbash995]

Rhet steps it up EVERY SINGLE TIME!

[keyboardbandit]

dv sucked

[rcronico]

honestly, i don't dig rheteric too much. he thinks that he can drop some xanax say anything that comes to his mind in a quirky cadence, and consider it "abstract" orginial.

he's not bad, but i think he just gets way too much hype, and he loves this image that he's created of himself.

[wobblegook]

duuude... agreed, i couldn't have said it better, i realid coudln't have.. cuz i don't know what's wrong with him. he's not even rapping.. he has no rhythm.

[LEXIIBBBY]

dutch vega is dik riding Cali bc he jealous we r better rameriez bet he ass n his wacky home town talkking about nigga if i c u in CAli im kill ya but hair cut nigga with croked teeth with a stop ny accent suk a dik mutherfuker

[SpeedyStorm]

Did Frankie Wapps lose 20 pounds?

[honeybunny361]

freal though because if they didn't post his name I wouldn't have known who that was

[SpeedyStorm]

Yeah I'm like wow, dude really got on the skinny. Hopefully his raps have too! (I actually liked Jaze & Frankie but Jaze was definitely the better of the two)

[THlostOT]

vega is fuckin terrible what the fuck

[MindAtLarge010]

I used to hate Rheteric in WRC but now he's killing these cats.

[Syndo]

wtf did rheteric really freestyle that last verse it was better then some of his other rounds, vega asked for another ot and got ripped worse loll

[rnbskates]

idk if im just not hearing it, but dutch vega doesnt even rhyme..he just talks loud.

[purcepshun]

the way vega acts i thought he was gonna be good, but he must be the only one who believes that or somebodies lying to him

[djreal]

Rhet's style is mad original.

[Jahrass7]

Rhet is entertaining as s@#$ say whatever

[MurdaMusi]

that freestyle is straight off the top...good shit rheteric

[xzamples]

dutch vega gotta be the worst ever , hes wack as fuck

[sk8rkid25]

that last freestyle was dopeee

[UntilTheDeathOfMe]

Vega is pretty wack. Outside the start of his third verse...nothing connected.

Honestly didn't find Rhet all that impressive. His style is amusing - but most of his lines missed and were funny mainly because of the delivery.

[aspiringart]

Vega has all the swag and delivery, but no bars. All his rhymes are elementary and they never end in a punch. In the last round he had some more complex rhymes, but they didn't hit hard at the end.

If he works on that he can be a real problem.

Rhetoric is always creative and different. You never know what the hell he'll come up with and that's what makes him so dope to me.

Good battle

[chuckdeezy3]

vega is wack

[CapoMan]

Ayo tell me why it sounded like Kap was about to say "Ill eat your dick" then switched it up.

[tarbash995]

when?

[CapoMan]

4:44

[capitalAG]

frankie wapps lost mad weight. no homo but i miss him and juce.

[activist45]

the first time i felt rheteric in a battle...good shit..

[grapla]

RHET OT @7:11 IS SUPER WEIRD FUNNY

[whitebullterror]

i think dutch vega might be missing a piece of a chromosome.

[SupremeComedian]

over all this was a weak battle.

[ACemcee4]

rheteric is so sick

[Jehanam]

First time i actually liked Rhet in a battle. Dont know why but his style for once made me laugh.

Hilarious battle rapper but i dont see him makin music...

[tarbash995]

his music is actually awesome. just listen to the intro track

[ttysonn]

haha rhet's O.T. was jokes, nicely done. Vega shoulda used his OT as his 2nd round, his 3rd as his first, and should have written a 3rd better than the other two.

[jux55]

Rheteric is not your average.

His left field has aliens tripping on mushrooms and x, doing cartwheels on trampolines.

[AllamaniMike1]

aight battle..dont wanna jus shit on vega even though he took that L

[Mistadobalina420]

Just like Wapps said, Rheteric is fuckin' weird haha.

[Gwame]

dutch vega is terrible but thinks he's great...

[braziliannegro]

I like seeing battles like this. It's not the same generic shit over and over. Rheteric is talent funny dude, too bad people don't know what real rap is too much garbage in the industry

[kijishiroukasen]

Man, Rheteric destroyed Dutch lol.

Dutch didn't lose because he's wack, even though he didn't end his punches well but I think it's because he sounds the exact same as he always has.

With Rheteric you can see how far he's come and all the improvement in his bars. Dutch hasn't evolved at ALL. If you're just staying the same and everyone else is improving, you're bound to take tons of L's.

[cryptozoology4life]

cap is fuckin' hilarious.

[Boogalix]

Dutch is swagger-jacking Locksmith.

WACK

[definition1988]

frankie wapps has lost mad weight

[Gwame]

yeah i was thinkin that

[LTMaloney33]

Arnald Swarsmollester in Kindergarden Cock hahaha wow

[iLLsPoKeN99]

@LTMaloney33 fuckn hilarious

[burntsouljah]

haha even his ot with freestyle dude has came far from his WRC days, he is hella drunk jesus lol, vega should have spit that ot verse in the regular 3 b/c it was his best, still would have lost but it was better than other ones, rheteric on the come up seriously dude has been on his A+ game.

[burntsouljah]

rheteric is a funny fucking dude he had me almost tearing up lol. vega thing he so dope, but he is weak.

[pottdjur]

vega sucks, rheteric is funny as HELL

[Thundering24]

agreed, no question...agreed

[Ruffdogg21]

Rheteric was decent in this battle which was suprising.....also I hate when niggas put Da God after their name. Get a life nigga....Damn I can't stand that shit....motha fucka....I'm pissed off now....average battle though Rheteric was high in this battle...he should rap high more often

[blackberrydro]

Lol dutch vega is trash lol Rheteric is cool but Vega was trash

[roastlonely]

a good lesson to all battle mcs who take themselves too seriously.go Rhet

[GunStreets]

this was THe Wackest battle at Bad Blood

expected it from rheteric

but Vega can MUCH MUCH better

[kikokazuma]

Rheteric was funny as shit in the OT round though...

[kikokazuma]

Really, Rheteric is not so dope. He's pretty lame. He just gets even weaker opponents.

[dabooga]

Rheteric is too much

[stonedPreacher]

Rheteric did his thing , first time watching him outside WRC... dope material!

[abysmalmonkey]

Holy crap Dutch Vega sucks.

[Comboaddict]

what the fuck was with vegas last round

[rzcmch]

collect calls from collection agencies

[TheSchematic]

Sara Kahn seems like annoying this battle.

[TimothyDeLaGhetto2]

aaaaaaaaahahah SOOO FUNNY!!!

[DaProlifik1reaLyrics]

rheteric's shit was crazy in ot, off the top too, real emcee shit

[shaneg01]

Hes crazy how Rheteric hold you in with every line. He has unbeliveble presence.

[MegadethTillDeth]

Hahaha damn rheterics original as hell.

[BlackSoultan]

When will emcees figure it out: DONT MESS WIT BLOWDIANS!

[homelessryank]

Rheteric is original. Completely. That is the shit. He's interesting as fuck and funny as hell to watch, and that will win any battle over name calling and repping your city Vega. Well done.

[TheRAMIREZ138]

Thank you for whatching !

Enjoy the freestyle at the very end .

Tiger Ty vs Rheteric Ramirez Bola 3 promo battle New Years eve.

Enjoy!

[H3kthor07]

Hey man, just wanted to say that you where hillarious in this battle but you probably know that allready. You got in 3 easy imo but the promo OT was still really worth it. Good shit all around though

[TheSmash4cash]

your freestyle was my favorite round...you came hard and had me laughing the whole time

[Outlaw0Immortal]

ahahahah rheteric is funny as FUCK

we need a tiger vs Rheteric matchup ASAP!

[Lawler109]

rheteric beat the shit outta dutch vega. although rheteric brought nocan down in WRC.

[bkyee18]

wow that was kinda boring

[blibertad]

Peace to Rheteric. Amazing and puzzling the crowd at the same time. On some 209 shit.

Tiger Ramirez!

[thrdvision]

who da fuck rocks southpole?

[duranward]

me in 7th grade lol

[anythingwatsoever]

frankie wapps looks different as fuck from wrcs

[GunzGot5]

word

[willydeezle]

Ya Frankie Wapps looks fucking skinny as fuck, it really brings out the size of his nose

[deviousimpulse]

Rheteric > your head

[arizonagreeeeeeentea]

rheterics "hmph" at 2:27 LOL! thinks vegas a joke.

[gedbeat15]

Damn! Frankie Wapps looks so fucking different. He lost mad weight

[tsacnaes]

Rick James said it best.

[20tree]

yes fuck sara ! sara is right about that i hate her to get her away from the cam !

[trooperjoe73]

That judges name is "Dea Arthur"? As in Bea Arthur?

[kyokushinkid420]

At first this battle was wack but Rhetrics OT made it worth it!

[BrianMikasa]

Rhetoric is fucking brilliant!

[therealdprince]

Hieroglyphics crew is from the west coast and they the only true hip hop group today.

[cheesyfojeezy]

yo rheteric is weird as fuk

[TTEREVE]

hes funny as fuck tho