Well what the hell do you call the Attitude Era? WWE stole all those ideas from old ECW. WWE wouldnt be hardcore if it werent for them. What about the Elimination Chamber? That's a rip off of War Games from WCW. Get you're fucking facts straight before you post bullshit.
again...why the fuck should anyone listen to u...i just dont get it, if wrestlemaster had an opinion then LET HIM HAVE A FUCKING OPINION U SAD FUCK....once again...go die
well i say tna is better then roh but that is my opion i have not saw a roh show but still i am sticking with tna only cause theere acculy on t.v.(if roh is when) but tna isn't copy of wwe. most wwe superstars go to tna or roh cause they are getting the rating wwe is runined
First off Dumb ass TNA when they where on FSN it was dark but that's not what i was talking about if you are a WWE FAN you are not going to like the ROH product
What part of "I've converted hundreds of WWE fans to ROH" didn't compute?
I've done it with friends I personally know - even the most stubborn of WWE fans - I've done it online in the MySpace groups. If they're willing to give it a chance there are things within it that'll appeal to them and keep them interested in the company and the rest of the wrestling world.
Oh, I've converted WWE fans to TNA as well - long before I tried converting them to ROH. Most of them quit giving TNA a chance when they realized it was a WWE-lite promotion. The same flaws and errors of the company they claimed to be an alternative to.
So don't tell me about not giving chances - I've been more than fair in my conversions of WWE fans. I didn't just convert them to ROH, I tried converting them to the open world of wrestling.
How would you know? Were you there on MySpace during my tirades to WWE fans that they're close minded fucks who should give other promotions a chance? Were you there when I told people to watch a NOAH match to broaden their horizons, and give wrestling outside of the WWE a fair look?
Were you there when I told these people that if they wanted to see good wrestling that there was an alternative just coming up on Spike TV? That TNA could be their gateway drug to the rest of the wrestling world? Were you?
i am sorry and i know u going to own me for saying this but casual fan love the light and effect for explain big daddy v suck in the ring when they did highlight vid of the guy they make look like he is a monster so i love ROH and they don't need to change they style then just need a better quality vid and effect and i feel ROH will be the best in the world
thats true but he's saying that thats all they care about, which isn't completly true. hes right but if you sit them in front of an roh show, they'll be roh fans almost instantly.
if tna didn't fear roh, why did they bar their talents from wrestling in roh? austin aries got fed up in the locker room and left tna to go back to roh. now he's major title contender again at roh. slap it to kurt angle
Cause to be a legit company you have to keep your stars do u think wwe would let tna or roh or noah use there talent no did ecw no didd wcw no it's time for roh to man up and deal with they wanna be a legit company now it's time to be one
I'm sure WCW didn't mind loaning talents to NJPW, a company they had a working deal with for a mutual exchange - hey, isn't TNA doing that also?
ROH knows it can't foolishly give out contracts that limit a worker to only their promotion and expect to have enough money for said contracts. This gives the worker the money they want, the schedule they want, and also gives them extra exposure, which in turn helps out ROH and other promotions who sign them.
How so? Their pay-per-views sell for $35 dollars, and reports are they get around 20,000 to 25,000, so mathematically speaking, their pay-per-view would gain them between $700,000 and $875,000 BEFORE considering their production costs, their contracts, their advertisement fees, and all that other stuff that goes into a business - spending is a big part of it all.
ROH dosen't need MSG, the Manhattan Center is big enough and they can sell out. I think the Age of the Fall/Briscoe's storyline is phenominal. ROH has a PPV & retail deal and dosen't need a TV deal.
If TNA didnt fear ROH why would they tell the talent the 2 companies shared that they couldnt wrestle for ROH. And oh my word where oh where do you you think Low Ki (Senshi for the TNA marks) is gonna show up after he full fills the dates he was signed to wrestle for TNA. ROH THEY are wrestling!
Low-Ki going to the WWE when he knows he'll make more money, keep his favorite type of schedule rolling, and can tour the one country he likes to tour. Yeah, there's no way he's going to head over to the WWE when he knows he can head straight over to NOAH.
He and the booker Gabe Sapolsky had a falling out, Ki wanted more money or something. At this point if Gabe and him were to make up there probably would be little trust between the two.
Jim you owned his ass I was thinking about making a response to him early this week but I didn't think he is worth it cause for the most part he is nothing more then a TNA fanboy. ROH is going to OWN TNA In Dayton!!
god damn you are so fuckin right I am a wwe fan although I recognize their flaws,I watched tna last night and it was like they were trying to make it like a soap opera they even gave it a Stupid soap opera intro AJ's delema,WTF?!.It was the shittiest show ever.TNA we are WCW
TNA fanboys are really fucked up
WWEJR88Fan 10 months ago
Fat wrestling mark....Silly fat little ROH fan boy.
RichyOkeeffe 2 years ago
1000th view
RVD2267 2 years ago
LARIAT BITCH
SeanOfHonor 3 years ago
bill and doug work for tna there no way they will say wwe is better then tna
christalkshowrule 3 years ago
well they did in there last video
RVD2267 2 years ago
I stand corrected lol
christalkshowrule 2 years ago
tht was funny at da begginin wit da song
lilish4 3 years ago
tna sucks because they copy off wwe and the acting is shit, and i like roh because it is acualy wrestling.
RVDfan100 3 years ago
Well what the hell do you call the Attitude Era? WWE stole all those ideas from old ECW. WWE wouldnt be hardcore if it werent for them. What about the Elimination Chamber? That's a rip off of War Games from WCW. Get you're fucking facts straight before you post bullshit.
WECENANUFF 3 years ago
again...why the fuck should anyone listen to u...i just dont get it, if wrestlemaster had an opinion then LET HIM HAVE A FUCKING OPINION U SAD FUCK....once again...go die
massiveunit101 4 years ago
Ah lets not tell someone to go die, it's a debate. Let them debate..They both make good points.
I personally think TNA is getting better, I hate WWE.
He makes a lot of good points about the wrestling, I'm a Puroresu fan and ROH has worked with Dragon Gate and NOAH. Now TNA is working with NJWF.
Dregen1 4 years ago
Jack Evans got me into Ring of honor
butters00001 4 years ago
well i say tna is better then roh but that is my opion i have not saw a roh show but still i am sticking with tna only cause theere acculy on t.v.(if roh is when) but tna isn't copy of wwe. most wwe superstars go to tna or roh cause they are getting the rating wwe is runined
warren132 4 years ago
fuck tnaism lmao
johncheese12 4 years ago 2
good vid
johncheese12 4 years ago
First off Dumb ass TNA when they where on FSN it was dark but that's not what i was talking about if you are a WWE FAN you are not going to like the ROH product
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
What part of "I've converted hundreds of WWE fans to ROH" didn't compute?
I've done it with friends I personally know - even the most stubborn of WWE fans - I've done it online in the MySpace groups. If they're willing to give it a chance there are things within it that'll appeal to them and keep them interested in the company and the rest of the wrestling world.
moralvirus 4 years ago
Funny they won't give tna a chance
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
Oh, I've converted WWE fans to TNA as well - long before I tried converting them to ROH. Most of them quit giving TNA a chance when they realized it was a WWE-lite promotion. The same flaws and errors of the company they claimed to be an alternative to.
So don't tell me about not giving chances - I've been more than fair in my conversions of WWE fans. I didn't just convert them to ROH, I tried converting them to the open world of wrestling.
moralvirus 4 years ago
But mostly ROH
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
How would you know? Were you there on MySpace during my tirades to WWE fans that they're close minded fucks who should give other promotions a chance? Were you there when I told people to watch a NOAH match to broaden their horizons, and give wrestling outside of the WWE a fair look?
moralvirus 4 years ago
Were you there when I told these people that if they wanted to see good wrestling that there was an alternative just coming up on Spike TV? That TNA could be their gateway drug to the rest of the wrestling world? Were you?
moralvirus 4 years ago
no i was not there
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
I was not bashing ROH you dumb ass why don't you look up bashing in see
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
thanks for the mention on a great video
bradmaster13 4 years ago
the war between tna & roh is the ppv buys tna:$40 roh:$16 that the difference.
brandensimmons1987 4 years ago
i like Delirious because he is a master showman
aceisking 4 years ago
notice how wrestlingmaster1 doesnt reply back
HurtingYourFeelings 4 years ago
Ole!....
BF200 4 years ago
i am sorry and i know u going to own me for saying this but casual fan love the light and effect for explain big daddy v suck in the ring when they did highlight vid of the guy they make look like he is a monster so i love ROH and they don't need to change they style then just need a better quality vid and effect and i feel ROH will be the best in the world
lucky7pointman 4 years ago
thats true but he's saying that thats all they care about, which isn't completly true. hes right but if you sit them in front of an roh show, they'll be roh fans almost instantly.
diddyman4real 4 years ago
I love every ROH wrestler I don't like El Generico that much but I agree he's a decent talent.
copcopps 4 years ago
Ole!
michaelhonscar 4 years ago
this is one of your best video
thejericode0136 4 years ago
i only seen a few roh shows and roh is a gr8 promotion i hope it becomes a big time promotion
neo20052006 4 years ago
if tna didn't fear roh, why did they bar their talents from wrestling in roh? austin aries got fed up in the locker room and left tna to go back to roh. now he's major title contender again at roh. slap it to kurt angle
kapengmabula 4 years ago
Cause to be a legit company you have to keep your stars do u think wwe would let tna or roh or noah use there talent no did ecw no didd wcw no it's time for roh to man up and deal with they wanna be a legit company now it's time to be one
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
I'm sure WCW didn't mind loaning talents to NJPW, a company they had a working deal with for a mutual exchange - hey, isn't TNA doing that also?
ROH knows it can't foolishly give out contracts that limit a worker to only their promotion and expect to have enough money for said contracts. This gives the worker the money they want, the schedule they want, and also gives them extra exposure, which in turn helps out ROH and other promotions who sign them.
moralvirus 4 years ago
oh damn TNA in St.Louis drew 6,000 wow guest what roh has never done that number
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
they filled up the mathattan center twice 10,000 people and they sold out the mathattan center tonight
coolnerd2736 4 years ago
you can't fit 10,000 people in the Mcenter
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
you can fit close to it.
diddyman4real 4 years ago
Dude no you can't on there website it says you can only fix about 2,100 people in there
the Hammersten holds up t0 3,000
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
my bad but the sold it out 8 times 3000x8=12000 tickets
coolnerd2736 4 years ago
LMAO you got f*cking owned dude
RVD2267 2 years ago
How many people got in for free though out of those 6,000 people for LockDown.
EcwHardCore07 4 years ago
5,500
coolnerd2736 4 years ago
exactly...
diddyman4real 4 years ago
dude you can't fit that many people in there
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
1,150 big deal they got in for free add the PPV buys and gate and it will still be more then in ROH show
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
How so? Their pay-per-views sell for $35 dollars, and reports are they get around 20,000 to 25,000, so mathematically speaking, their pay-per-view would gain them between $700,000 and $875,000 BEFORE considering their production costs, their contracts, their advertisement fees, and all that other stuff that goes into a business - spending is a big part of it all.
moralvirus 4 years ago
ROH dosen't need MSG, the Manhattan Center is big enough and they can sell out. I think the Age of the Fall/Briscoe's storyline is phenominal. ROH has a PPV & retail deal and dosen't need a TV deal.
DrJakel 4 years ago
this year alone three roh ppv kill every tna ppv this year.because people wants wrestling not what you said wwe lite or wcw 2.0
and Age of the fall kill every angle stable in tna period.
fullmetal2k8 4 years ago
Respect is Earned had 1,250 attendants while TNA barely has 1,000 and they have a TV deal. I don't know what "master" is talking about.
interfear1 4 years ago
great video, he got buried so much, he'll start hanging out with the devil!
ShadowOfMath 4 years ago
great vid you just killed a horsemen lol jk man check you later booya
thejericode0136 4 years ago
suck your mum
dogiem 4 years ago
If TNA didnt fear ROH why would they tell the talent the 2 companies shared that they couldnt wrestle for ROH. And oh my word where oh where do you you think Low Ki (Senshi for the TNA marks) is gonna show up after he full fills the dates he was signed to wrestle for TNA. ROH THEY are wrestling!
lonewolf373 4 years ago
No he's going to WWE he and ROH had a fall out that's why he left dumbass
WrestlingMaster1 4 years ago
Low-Ki going to the WWE when he knows he'll make more money, keep his favorite type of schedule rolling, and can tour the one country he likes to tour. Yeah, there's no way he's going to head over to the WWE when he knows he can head straight over to NOAH.
moralvirus 4 years ago
really I thought he would go back to ROH.
copcopps 4 years ago
He and the booker Gabe Sapolsky had a falling out, Ki wanted more money or something. At this point if Gabe and him were to make up there probably would be little trust between the two.
IKnowsWrestling 4 years ago
LARIAT BICTH~! Great video.
mrcpt1988 4 years ago 2
awesome vid
you made your points loud and clear on this dude...good job
gilbertblaze 4 years ago
THAT is ownage.
Thewwekiller 4 years ago
i get along with wrestlingmaster1 but i don't know how he can counter any of these points it pains me to say it but he got owned lol
nightmareballa1 4 years ago
the fireworks thing and the small building thing ticked me off.
that guy insulted the original ECW basically, which is something that u just don't do.
spinnernet1 4 years ago
Hi Spinnernet1
RVD2267 2 years ago
damn jim thats OWNAGE!! great video
wwerule5 4 years ago
Jim you owned his ass I was thinking about making a response to him early this week but I didn't think he is worth it cause for the most part he is nothing more then a TNA fanboy. ROH is going to OWN TNA In Dayton!!
rohstyles 4 years ago 3
And in Long Island LOL
willierk0 4 years ago
god damn you are so fuckin right I am a wwe fan although I recognize their flaws,I watched tna last night and it was like they were trying to make it like a soap opera they even gave it a Stupid soap opera intro AJ's delema,WTF?!.It was the shittiest show ever.TNA we are WCW
slingblade98 4 years ago
jimslaya!
darkmaul666 4 years ago
jimoh jimoh jimoh lolzzzz great vid own that mofo
coolnerd2736 4 years ago