My question is: With human life at risk, millions of dollars of equipment at risk, the technology we have today, Why isnt there a device on board all aircraft that would automatically override pilot control (or allow tower control)to prevent collisions? Seems to me, they could have had this in the 60s or 70s. It could prevent aircraft from colliding with buildings too, hence, aircraft would be useless to terrorists.
dropyourdrawers: Computers are not perfect either; otherwise all our aircraft would be autonomous. As far as a computer being able to automatically override a pilot, some systems are already in service and I think some were at the time, however there have been problems with those also; I think there was a fictionalized account on the drama series JAG. As far as being able to remotely control and aircraft; have you ever heard of hacking or jamming?
Somthing like that is inpractical because it would not let you fly in formation or it could malfunction and would try to avoid the ground when landing
Atom2009: Actually the military, NASA and some commercial companies are experimenting and developing technology for formation flying of UAVs and autopilots. I dont think its to the point that its safe or practical yet; but it seems inevitable that some time in the near future that technology will start being deployed if it already hasnt. Though it will have its vulnerabilities. Autopilot formation flying and UAV swarms are in the R and D stage.
Judging by the G's the pilot was taking at that affected speed it looks like he had a blackout however if you look closely before the crash the pilot is dispensing flares so he was conscience enough to dispense before hitting the ground. Gloc right before he hits.
Those weren't flares. They were "bug tracks." Computer animated dots to show the path of each aircraft. They don't really show in the sky behind every airplane.
For exactly the same reason that people practice CQB with live ammunition: realism.
Aircraft don't perform the same at 10K feet as they do at 500 feet; if you don't train low & slow, you will either be unable to engage the enemy under those conditions, or will die if you do.
Evidently his wingmen or one of the aggressors saw the crash, and said "oh no", which was then followed "knock it off" call, which is an order to stop the wargame and climb and clear the area for safety and to note the location for rescue or recovery.
Could be, but I don't think so. If I remember right it was his wingmen or one of the aggressors that yelled oh know after seeing the plane with pilot fly into the ground. I think it is his wingman yelling "oh no". It is heartbreaking, because he likely saw one of his best friends just die, and he likely has survivors guilt complex, that is likely unfunded.
There isn't any video I know of from the aircraft that crashed. Video is usually destroyed or badly damage in bad crashes. I think most if not all of the video is from his wingman.
I'm sure this was a psychologically painful event for the people involved, therefore I would rather not have the units or individuals identified, unless it comes to light that they want to be identified, or unless it is common public knowledge.
The video has a partial name of one of the pilots involved, I edited it out as a courtesy for his privacy.
I would be interested in finding out if it was GLOC, as it appears to be.
My question is: With human life at risk, millions of dollars of equipment at risk, the technology we have today, Why isnt there a device on board all aircraft that would automatically override pilot control (or allow tower control)to prevent collisions? Seems to me, they could have had this in the 60s or 70s. It could prevent aircraft from colliding with buildings too, hence, aircraft would be useless to terrorists.
dropyourdrawers 3 years ago
dropyourdrawers: Computers are not perfect either; otherwise all our aircraft would be autonomous. As far as a computer being able to automatically override a pilot, some systems are already in service and I think some were at the time, however there have been problems with those also; I think there was a fictionalized account on the drama series JAG. As far as being able to remotely control and aircraft; have you ever heard of hacking or jamming?
ATFSCrash 3 years ago
Somthing like that is inpractical because it would not let you fly in formation or it could malfunction and would try to avoid the ground when landing
atom2009 3 years ago
Atom2009: Actually the military, NASA and some commercial companies are experimenting and developing technology for formation flying of UAVs and autopilots. I dont think its to the point that its safe or practical yet; but it seems inevitable that some time in the near future that technology will start being deployed if it already hasnt. Though it will have its vulnerabilities. Autopilot formation flying and UAV swarms are in the R and D stage.
ATFSCrash 3 years ago
Judging by the G's the pilot was taking at that affected speed it looks like he had a blackout however if you look closely before the crash the pilot is dispensing flares so he was conscience enough to dispense before hitting the ground. Gloc right before he hits.
Maverick667th 4 years ago
Those weren't flares. They were "bug tracks." Computer animated dots to show the path of each aircraft. They don't really show in the sky behind every airplane.
hannah18322000 2 years ago
poor guy u_ù...
*salutes*
fullmetaldiego 4 years ago
why practice at such dangerously low altitude?
Miketar2424 4 years ago
For exactly the same reason that people practice CQB with live ammunition: realism.
Aircraft don't perform the same at 10K feet as they do at 500 feet; if you don't train low & slow, you will either be unable to engage the enemy under those conditions, or will die if you do.
duncanbayne 4 years ago 3
thanks mate
frostwow 4 years ago
Excellent video, thanks for sharing all your incredible videos ATFSCrash, they are a wealth of information.
AviationFavorites 4 years ago
Superior work, as usual....
Crashman2 4 years ago
Is it "Oh, No!" at 02:32, and at 02:46 they are aready talking of "crash"...? 2007-0901.0123
Merlin1940 4 years ago
Yes.
Evidently his wingmen or one of the aggressors saw the crash, and said "oh no", which was then followed "knock it off" call, which is an order to stop the wargame and climb and clear the area for safety and to note the location for rescue or recovery.
ATFSCrash 4 years ago
Could it be the pilot who went down who shouted "oh-no!"?
JonisKanonis 4 years ago
Could be, but I don't think so. If I remember right it was his wingmen or one of the aggressors that yelled oh know after seeing the plane with pilot fly into the ground. I think it is his wingman yelling "oh no". It is heartbreaking, because he likely saw one of his best friends just die, and he likely has survivors guilt complex, that is likely unfunded.
ATFSCrash 4 years ago
If it was the pilot who shouted, I think he would have attempted to eject, rather than shouting.
Hexify 4 years ago
the aircraft carrying the camera didnt crash, did it. I couldnt see
televisionremote 4 years ago
RGR
There isn't any video I know of from the aircraft that crashed. Video is usually destroyed or badly damage in bad crashes. I think most if not all of the video is from his wingman.
ATFSCrash 4 years ago
This is a dogfight, he said "FOX 2". That stands for missile launch
PashMaster01 4 years ago
RGR
It was mock/practice combat,therefore it was a simulated missile launch.
ATFSCrash 4 years ago
Yeah, that's correct. There's also FOX 1 and FOX 3. Other weapons have their own codnames for weapon fire too.
PashMaster01 4 years ago
NSAWC F-16?
WeLikeThis 4 years ago
My memory fails me. I don't think so.
I'm sure this was a psychologically painful event for the people involved, therefore I would rather not have the units or individuals identified, unless it comes to light that they want to be identified, or unless it is common public knowledge.
The video has a partial name of one of the pilots involved, I edited it out as a courtesy for his privacy.
I would be interested in finding out if it was GLOC, as it appears to be.
ATFSCrash 4 years ago