aw man with this much gateways he could heve an unbeatable army of zealots to go with those cariers, and to think that he didn't make the speed research for them
come on that could be for draco quite an easy victory
hahah ... he lost at 12:12 2 goons without killing at least 1 of nada's units; starting at 13:00 he loses 1 reaver without killing again at least 1 unit; at 13:14 he loses the shuttle and the other reaver, and look at his face at 13:17 LOL
was wp by draco, it wasn't like he didn't build the necessary ground units to support his carriers - he did. just in the end, nada's units just kept pouring in (good economy) and he just couldn't take it =\
He doesn't have the required multi-tasking skill. He held Nada army pretty well until he got overpowered slowly by Nada's faster growing economy. He's too concentrating on just his def. The only counter attack from him was the group of dragon at the end. If he could send a drop ship with 2-3 high templars storming some of Nada's bases, he might have good chance of winning. It won't be ez, but that's diff between a good player and OK player
His micro kinda sucks too....especially reaver micro.
wydaje mi się iz popełnił kilka błędów ale Protosi jest to najtrudniejsza rasa. Myśle ze mógł zraszować przeciwnika Dark Templarami :) chociaż nie wiem czy by to wyszło :D ;P dla mnie jest najlepszy ;D
What's the point of competition ? To beat the person your playing. Peon rush is not banned for a reason. By the time the other person is able to cheese you, you should have enough units gathered up to counter. So no it is not prohibited because 2 people of same skill level would not be able to pull that off on each other. I agree more then likely Hwasin did that shit on purpose to say " you're not there yet " but still its entertaining :). so its not BM its just truth.
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most of non-korean players just play for fun and then people notice them and they play matches like this. but the lots of the koreans just play for the money
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most of the time for a toss to win he will need support units with the assult units but when terran they dont really because u can just use seige tanks and unseige some to protect the seige tanks ....
doesn't that mean you need to build extra tanks to use as support? Tanks are just too expensive. vultures are much better as support units (cheaper, faster to build, expendable).
actually no valentine452, tanks do fractional damage against zealots. and goons/zlots both do full damage against tanks. if even # of tanks vs even number of goon/zealot in terms of cost.. the tanks will get raped.. so it goes both ways, kthx
Well toss players don't go strictly goons. Toss players need to use a mix of goons, zealot drops, hi temp drops, and flanking to take out vult/tanks. Also, fast cybercore is the best way to go in PvT since vults > zeal's.
Athos90 while you're right you could say that about all kind of games/sports I mean look at Hockey or Fotball,many Industrial countries doesnt have their kids playing fotball all day their whole life as in Brazil,nor does U-countries afford to train and play hockey etc.
I think we owe Draco some credit. He defended well, but that kind of Terran assault is very difficult to come back from. Also, I don't think many Korean protoss could defend against that. The foreigners have a disadvantage because they are going against the best of the best. Also, I don't think Draco gets 14 hours to practice and hundreds of dollars of prize money.
WOW Competitive gaming is INTENSE. I can only imagine what it must be for the players being in front of so many people with television cameras watching you and shit.
if starcraft stopped at korea, no starcraft sponsors or no broadcasting on tv and shit, Haha what would the pro gamers do? sell hotdogson the street? :P
Yeah, I definitely think that when Starcraft 2 comes out there will be a new western interest in starcraft. Maybe then we can build players strong enough to beat the koreans.
it's waaaaaaaaaaay too early to make that kind of statements... answer me this simple question: have you PLAYED the game and seen EVERYTING in it to say it's imba??? when you do, you can say it's imba.
Nada is the man
KuroPhantonHive 4 months ago
What's the name of the song at the beginning?
ppshchik 10 months ago
It starts: 4:00
PL ROX !!
fxbeatsonline 1 year ago 4
ni siquiera saco templar draco gil ! unos rayitos y bastaba
metal592 1 year ago
Koreans are good and they practice a lot but they're not super human or something.
gosciu555 1 year ago
starts at 3:55
MastaCiasta 1 year ago
@reallysecretusername when korean ppl want to emphasize something they stretch teh word. he probably had a voice crack lol
thefearlessoyster 1 year ago
nada looks like a fat gopher xD
l00seg00tyh0les 1 year ago
why does the commentator make such funny noice when talking? sounds like he got soemthing in his throat lol. listen at :11.40:
reallysecretusername 2 years ago
aw man with this much gateways he could heve an unbeatable army of zealots to go with those cariers, and to think that he didn't make the speed research for them
come on that could be for draco quite an easy victory
jaca0900 2 years ago
WHITE GUY
suckitboyy 2 years ago 7
@suckitboyy I think he lost.
wynstonable 7 months ago
Draco is a great player
MashaBiseX 2 years ago 4
hahah ... he lost at 12:12 2 goons without killing at least 1 of nada's units; starting at 13:00 he loses 1 reaver without killing again at least 1 unit; at 13:14 he loses the shuttle and the other reaver, and look at his face at 13:17 LOL
NTL808 2 years ago
Poland Rulez ! Draco you are great !!
Osiris1121 2 years ago 3
which toss player would continue to build carriers after seeing the other guy mass goliaths...
brainwasher9876 2 years ago
was wp by draco, it wasn't like he didn't build the necessary ground units to support his carriers - he did. just in the end, nada's units just kept pouring in (good economy) and he just couldn't take it =\
Unraked 2 years ago
He doesn't have the required multi-tasking skill. He held Nada army pretty well until he got overpowered slowly by Nada's faster growing economy. He's too concentrating on just his def. The only counter attack from him was the group of dragon at the end. If he could send a drop ship with 2-3 high templars storming some of Nada's bases, he might have good chance of winning. It won't be ez, but that's diff between a good player and OK player
His micro kinda sucks too....especially reaver micro.
benkenser 2 years ago
A NONE KOREAN STARCRAFT PLAYER????
brainwasher9876 2 years ago 8
Got to get Lockdown; rape those carriers.
freekid247 2 years ago
and starcraft is made by americans...
koreanbounca 2 years ago
Although it was made by Americans. Vivendi owns Blizzard Activision. Vivendi is a French Company.
freekid247 2 years ago
back then it didnt...
praling 2 years ago
Oh it is just SC isn't it. Thought it was Brood War.
freekid247 2 years ago
activision bought blizzard very recently, way after brood war came out. just a fact.
brainwasher9876 2 years ago
With all due respect. If you don't know that you're not a gamer. I appreciate the info for those who don't know it.
freekid247 2 years ago
this isn't WWI you people disgrace that war!
OhBoysPaintball 2 years ago
u disgrace life.
haduugenn 2 years ago
It's WWI not WW1. You disgrace Star Craft.
freekid247 2 years ago
Shut up you fucking nerds. I play real games like tic-tac-toe and jacks!
OhBoysPaintball 2 years ago
With all technicality Starcraft is a real game. I guess you never where the brightest in your class?
freekid247 2 years ago
Have you won the World Real Games yet?
GladRags 2 years ago
OhBoysPaintball was obviously being sarcastic, give him a break!
I lol'd btw.
Zeyta000 2 years ago
Lol nice carrier kills Nada.
starcraftboy 2 years ago
never go carriers against terrans
MeGustaElBrian 2 years ago
Well you can if they dont have the tech for goliaths xD
starcraftboy 2 years ago
against zerg?
VestritPL 2 years ago
Carriers are the best units you can built against terrans, in fact carrier built is only popular against terrans
dietermauer 2 years ago
not very true
BboydnL 2 years ago
Carrier + Arbiter against Terran is like Ultralisks + Defiler against Protoss
dietermauer 2 years ago
thats nott really true LOL
the reason why zergs transition to ultras is usually after using melee units
toss will usually stick with arb+goon+temp+lot
carrier is a last ditch effort actually
youre supposed to surprise the terran with a fleet of 4-8
but even with carriers, its best to have some goons as backup against goliaths
ultra+defiler is a transition, not a last ditch effort or surprise tactic
BboydnL 2 years ago
carriers against zerg?
hydras would rip them apart, wouldnt they?
holyhalo5 2 years ago
i wasnt talking about pvz xP
and yeah, swarm + hydras ownnnn carriers lawls.
BboydnL 2 years ago
hes korean >.>
MeGustaElBrian 2 years ago 3
whatever
bulewkakonewka 2 years ago
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stupid freakin koreans......
mastercane090293 3 years ago
NaDa!!! so good
DLTKDWNSDTW 3 years ago
Go draco! Used to be best back in the day.
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
that was pretty much mass and hit for the win heh.
raymanlegy 3 years ago
yeah, we didnt see any fancy tactics at all... agains tterran, you can't mass Z/D/C... gotta go T
Molari 3 years ago
But, i have to say NAda has some good micro and totally out macroed draco. Dude is drace Grubby from wc3?
raymanlegy 3 years ago
według mnie Drako i tak był leprzy. ;D
wydaje mi się iz popełnił kilka błędów ale Protosi jest to najtrudniejsza rasa. Myśle ze mógł zraszować przeciwnika Dark Templarami :) chociaż nie wiem czy by to wyszło :D ;P dla mnie jest najlepszy ;D
** POzdro dla fanów Starcrafta xD :D
Precision1992 3 years ago
draco, jak dla mnie to i tak jesteś mistrzem!
upadly227 3 years ago
The siege tank + goliats + expert player:) = victory
Lence17 3 years ago
Loads of battle throughout the entire match. Kudos to Nada swiching to primary golaiths.
Would have like to have seen more sheild batteries for the carriers.
SovietWrath 3 years ago
No shit. If you actually finished the video, you would had known.
xtakashiro 3 years ago 4
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did nada win?
xxbluejay21 3 years ago
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Draco sucked hairy donkey balls.
Crackeroid 3 years ago
sry meant draco...
swordman6m1 3 years ago
testie is so lucky nada didnt do some bm shit to him.(like hwasin did to testie)
swordman6m1 3 years ago
theres no strategy or tactic thats bm other than actual hacking. all that 'cheese' shit is just people bitching because they can't adjust
Escuderoam 3 years ago
umm if someone totally destroys you with his first four scvs, hes intending to humiliate you...
swordman6m1 3 years ago
What's the point of competition ? To beat the person your playing. Peon rush is not banned for a reason. By the time the other person is able to cheese you, you should have enough units gathered up to counter. So no it is not prohibited because 2 people of same skill level would not be able to pull that off on each other. I agree more then likely Hwasin did that shit on purpose to say " you're not there yet " but still its entertaining :). so its not BM its just truth.
hillsong1004 3 years ago
LMAO is the announcer doing at 11:40
LOL
kenmasters12345 3 years ago
Draco sucks balls
korean rules!!!
Griefpluto 3 years ago
Draco chyba cie trema zjadla !! Pozdro GloveR
GloveR233 3 years ago
Draco chyba cie trema zjadla !! Pozdro GloveR
GloveR233 3 years ago
mnie też by zjadła:D
Deimos0 3 years ago
drako lol mas burro
sk8erpsr 4 years ago
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Was zur Hölle passiert ab 16:00?
- NaDa passiert ungestört einen Engpass.
- Dann schieß er ungestört den Nexus weg.
- Und erst dann greift Droco ohne auf seine Zealots zu warten an.
- Dabei verliert er Reaver und Dragoons.
- Dann kommen die Zealots an, die er ebenso verliert.
Musste das denn sein? :(
ThompsonXP 4 years ago
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Was zur Hölle passiert ab 16:00?
- NaDa passiert ungestört einen Engpass.
- Dann schieß er ungestört den Nexus weg.
- Und erst dann greift Droco ohne auf seine Zealots zu warten an.
- Dabei verliert er Reaver und Dragoons.
- Dann kommen die Zealots an, die er ebenso verliert.
Musste das denn sein? :(
ThompsonXP 4 years ago
Lol koreans must love blizzard for setting up these games.
Easy win :O
hongfooey 4 years ago
blizzard loves korea that's why they set up WWI at korea. :D i love korea
gotknife1 4 years ago 3
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lolz draco is ugly
r3tro0 4 years ago
so false
yangli84 4 years ago
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most of non-korean players just play for fun and then people notice them and they play matches like this. but the lots of the koreans just play for the money
valentine452 4 years ago
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most of the time for a toss to win he will need support units with the assult units but when terran they dont really because u can just use seige tanks and unseige some to protect the seige tanks ....
valentine452 4 years ago
doesn't that mean you need to build extra tanks to use as support? Tanks are just too expensive. vultures are much better as support units (cheaper, faster to build, expendable).
KMC1986106 4 years ago 2
actually no valentine452, tanks do fractional damage against zealots. and goons/zlots both do full damage against tanks. if even # of tanks vs even number of goon/zealot in terms of cost.. the tanks will get raped.. so it goes both ways, kthx
iMPERiOUS 3 years ago
o well it was a good match
xTkDx 4 years ago
it was long but i never had much hope for the toss guy.
zeejustin6 4 years ago
lol... it is pretty interesting to c gamers that are not from korea playing sc profesionally.
5470462 4 years ago
LOL im polish and nalepka=sticker LOL omfg i was rolf as i c it omFGGGGG
lolex2 4 years ago
strange how the korean commentators talk so much shit about other foreigners except Draco lol saying he could work as a pro in korea
mrhoon 4 years ago
Draco looks kind of old in this scene.
TerranHasArrived 4 years ago
I wonder if the pros get irritated. "Oh great another blizzcon more noob bashing"
tardfarms 4 years ago
who the fuck won????? the terran player was kicking ass...
leoskyline17 4 years ago
its like 'nam for gamers
stuffums 4 years ago
Wow.. sc gamers outside of korea really don't stand a chance.
SmartGuy215 4 years ago
a very similar game to Draco vs Midas.
Shwamperoos 4 years ago
wtf does draco go striaght for cybernictic core?
runisunke 4 years ago
Lol that is a standard build against terran.
YoungDJC 4 years ago
o really? its just that i think that dragoon wut get owned by seige tanks(in this game he masses goon
runisunke 4 years ago
Well toss players don't go strictly goons. Toss players need to use a mix of goons, zealot drops, hi temp drops, and flanking to take out vult/tanks. Also, fast cybercore is the best way to go in PvT since vults > zeal's.
YoungDJC 4 years ago
dam good piont.i see clearly now, thx
runisunke 4 years ago
Athos90 while you're right you could say that about all kind of games/sports I mean look at Hockey or Fotball,many Industrial countries doesnt have their kids playing fotball all day their whole life as in Brazil,nor does U-countries afford to train and play hockey etc.
quezcatol 4 years ago
man NaDa's changed he looks like a guy now:P
WhyMex69x 4 years ago
too true
Shwamperoos 4 years ago
I think we owe Draco some credit. He defended well, but that kind of Terran assault is very difficult to come back from. Also, I don't think many Korean protoss could defend against that. The foreigners have a disadvantage because they are going against the best of the best. Also, I don't think Draco gets 14 hours to practice and hundreds of dollars of prize money.
Athos90 4 years ago 2
WOW Competitive gaming is INTENSE. I can only imagine what it must be for the players being in front of so many people with television cameras watching you and shit.
corylatimer 4 years ago
lol i agree
didqocnzhs 4 years ago
ye for sure hes so bad that he won PGL ;]
PiromanNaN 4 years ago 2
never heard of pgl sounds like a tournament for noobs
aiyuo 4 years ago
it's a chinese tournament
DJWilsonX9 4 years ago
it's korean idiot
didqocnzhs 4 years ago
owned.
Shwamperoos 4 years ago
draco so bad
aiyuo 4 years ago
Kerrio! Kerrioooo! :))
slackeriii 4 years ago
i cant see the vod :S
helpme!!
jericraft 4 years ago
what's with them using old fat crt monitors
formuladc 4 years ago
because crt monitors are better, they are used on all game tournaments
Shugerpl 4 years ago
if starcraft stopped at korea, no starcraft sponsors or no broadcasting on tv and shit, Haha what would the pro gamers do? sell hotdogson the street? :P
handren90 4 years ago
Why didn't Draco just get a couple Reavers after his Carriers, they'd be able to take out those tight packed Goliaths quite easily...
ZellMurasame 4 years ago
Now if I can just get the hot keys down, I can be in this too.
CelceuxRE 4 years ago
Blizzard people should've dressed as good as them...
Ryz05 4 years ago
testie is best non-korean toss
dltmdwns 4 years ago
In my opinion Draco is the best no korean toss, but koreans are monsters
renenirvana 4 years ago
lol nada's face looks so bored
TastedDuckling 4 years ago
lol
relmege 4 years ago
i think sc 2 would ruin the progaming in korea, also sc 2 is well too imbalanced..but im sure it will be an awesome game once it comes out....
bloodLLL 4 years ago
yeah. when sc2 comes out, either sc gamers have to get well with new game or new player will come out.
seopeter22 4 years ago
Yeah, I definitely think that when Starcraft 2 comes out there will be a new western interest in starcraft. Maybe then we can build players strong enough to beat the koreans.
Athos90 4 years ago
it's waaaaaaaaaaay too early to make that kind of statements... answer me this simple question: have you PLAYED the game and seen EVERYTING in it to say it's imba??? when you do, you can say it's imba.
fosian 4 years ago 2
well too imbalanced? you already played the game?
tofuchuen 4 years ago 2
[red]Nada is the best of course boxer is better
Chrono209 4 years ago
gg.
Xidlarus 4 years ago
shit, nada has lost 6 out of 7 tvp recently and still he still handled Draco so easily...
2672543 4 years ago
NaDa FTW
peterl24 4 years ago
go NaDa.
thecoffinilaidin 4 years ago
I wonder why NaDa only used 30% of his skills... maybe he was thinking of SC2...
MickeyToss 4 years ago
haha. lol.
BTW did you know that there's no limit for the amount of units you can create in SC2? it'll be like Red Alter. lol
thecoffinilaidin 4 years ago
I dont think so. It would kill balance.
seeddx 4 years ago
there's no limit for the amount of units you can SELECT not CREATE. listen close and then talk!
fosian 4 years ago
no wait, i saw nada use one hand to play to make it harder for himself...
MickeyToss 4 years ago
Yeah......no vultures stuff early on and no gol range upgrade until after the carriers? He didn't go for exp either, just went for his main base.
YumCha85 4 years ago
GG for both
BarneyMickoura 4 years ago
Go draco! Used to be best back in the day.
Jules72Bear 4 years ago