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  • "there are techniques, within the force, against which there's no defense"

  • @MisterNerevarine Yup if you have the restoration patch of kotor 2 the dark side decisions majority of the time does not come down to mugging random people you can actually be MANIPULATIVE in this game thats why I love kotor 2 plus it goes into depth how the jedi and sith orders can improve.

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  • If only kotor 2 was longer!

    Jesus they could have made a Kotor 3... but they insisted on an MMORPG.

    WHY?!!!!

  • @Vahtacen It's actually pretty good.

    However I really would've preferred a single player KotOR D:

    With Revan being the Antagonist or you playing him again :x

  • @Xenar17 perhaps it would involve you putting together the mystery of your disappearance - either you lose your memory (again, lol) and have to piece it together, or you make your own history by choosing certain things that you did in the past... if that makes sense.

  • @Vahtacen It makes sense but the amnesia part of it would just be soooo bad for the game x_x People will just be like "Are you fucking serious???? AMNESIA AGAIN!?!?!?" xD

  • @Xenar17 Yeah, so I guess that making his own history, maybe through his actions in the game and his conversation reactions would be interesting. I mean, if you're evil in the game, you'd probably be evil during your exile. If you are good in the game, you'd probably be good during the exile.

    Or maybe it can get data from your previous game.

  • @Vahtacen I thought the same thing i was all eager and prepped my pc for Kotor 3 and then my heart sank when i saw the lets play video MMORPG WHy?!!!!!!! thou i whould like to play kotor and kotor 2 again very good games to play awesome replay value

  • "To be united by hatred is a... fragile alliance, at best."

  • so mad when i found out she was dark side... i was all like RRAAGGEE on her and went jedi on her arse lol

  • One of my faves, brings old memories back.

  • i wish it was longer

  • I have made an extended version of this theme song:

    watch?v=dIaVhS0V8Fc

  • Anyone who hasn't heard, go to the page deadlystream . com

    This is the home page of the mod TSLRCM. It improves the game soooo much. It restores lost content, completes the storyline etc.

    You can read more on the page.

    Btw, trailer for the mod:

    watch?v=8rOBUChvxp8

    and another:

    watch?v=Nh3N1qXg9bU

  • Best theme for sure. Such creepy backround music

  • I'm so sad they aren't continuing this as a real trilogy. What is this 'The Old Republic' crap?

  • WHY THIS IS SO SHORT? WHY? I LOVE THAT MUSIC!

  • SWTOR : Game of the Century

  • The only way this song could be more epic is if it were longer..

  • @BassClarinet2010 omg... this song sounds cool..and then it sounds like ita about to dive right into one of kingdom heart's intense battle themes.

  • fuck nihilus revan ftw!

  • KOTOR 2 Was ultimately one of the BEST SEQUALS IVE PLAYED

  • This game has amazing soundtracks! I remember when the cutscene of the 3 Sith Lords at Trayus core came; it was epic!

    btw its too bad this game's story didn't have a better ending, cause the game overall was great, but the ending messed it up :/

  • @ironmaiden93ofangmar You didn't get the endings?

  • @visorak168x Yes i did, I just didn't like the endings as much as KotOR1 endings

  • 4 people have come with no questions.

  • The first KOTOR was like A New Hope, but KOTOR II was definitely The Empire Strikes Back. Darker, better characters, better dialogue, better atmosphere, better locations, a rich and complex storyline. Everything about it was better. It's just a shame that LucasArts butchered it.

  • i have kotor 1 and 2 on xbox still play ...i never thought that 1 was better than 2 i like both but i think i prefer 2 cuz :it tells you if a box is empty,you can change your companion aligment and turn them into jedi or sith ,this way you can way more manipulate them and theres more weapon and armors specially jedi robes

  • 4 people have fallen so far and learned nothing.

  • @matser08 I LOVE you right now.

  • @matser08

    No. BioWare has fallen far and learned nothing.

    They have actually managed to destroy, rape and utterly butcher their own creation.

  • @CarrickBuff100 What, this game? It was actually made by obsidian.

  • @hmmsmellslikefish

    I'm not talking about this game! I'm talking about the old republic!

  • There's no better soundtrack than this one in any game. It's pure masterpiece.

  • Why did they rush? They could have made more planets and the HK factory and added soundtracks for those. I would rather them take longer to make a better game than rush and make a worse game(still fun though)

  • @charter1423th Obsidian only had 10 month to produce such an already cool game. And to think that Blizzard took 12 years to develop such a waste as SC 2 (don't get me wrong, it's OK, but imo it's overhyped because of the marketing and fanbase, not THAT innovative, and definitely not worth 60 € è_é) but nuff said :this is aTSL vid.

  • Very Halloween-like.

  • "there are dark places in the galaxy where few tread... ancient centers of learning... of knowledge... but I did not walk alone. To be united by hatred is a fragile alliance at best. but my will was not law. there were disagreements... ambition... and hunger for power..."Darth Traya (Kreia) ok seriously its been years since iv played this game and hearing this soundtrack brought back that entire speech from kreia. thats all from memory.

    awesome game i just wish they completed it

  • @SwiftSarcasm "There are tecniques within the force, against which there is no defense, I was cast down....stripped of my powers, exiled, I suffered indiginities...and fell into darkness"

  • @JM1980s and when we found out she was a manipulative old bitch we laughed at her pain for controlling us you witchy presence!!!!!

  • Betray... [Voice echoes through the galaxy]

  • best *35* seconds of game music this century :D

  • Kotor 3 should be made for xbox 360 and ps3 but the same game mechanics just much better graphgics, but the story, gameplay and characters were too amazing for me to notices the glitches in kotor 2, but i must say i prefer kotor 1 but some things in kotor 2 were just so much better

  • @darthkazden sadly for all os us their will be no kotor 3. F**K the sw:tor its what happens to exile and revan we demand!!!!

  • I feel kinda weak when listening to this...this is maybe my favorite song of all time...its really really deep and just stunning...

  • I WANT KOTOR 3!!! NO NOT THAT OLD REPUBLIC PRG HORSE SHIT! I AND EVERY FAN OF KOTOR 1 AND 2 WANTS MORE STORYLINE AND KNOWLADGE OF KOTOR 1 and 2!!! LIKE: WHAT HAD THE EXILE AND HIS COMPANIONS DO,WHERE HAVE THEY GONE? WHAT HAPPEND TO REVAN AFTER KILLING MALAK?!!

  • @airzorne i want kotor 3 too i wana see what the hell happened after kotor 1 and 2. im still looking forward to the old republic but i wana know what happened all the same

  • @airzorne

    We already know what Revan done, he left Republic space to venture to the Uknown Regions to allegedly fight the True Sith. But I think SW:TOR will advance the story somewhat. There is a trailer which shows someone in a temple finding Revan's mask

  • @Cathain78 i don't think that is somewhat true. they advance far too many years and are just making it for you to see the effects of their games but not the conclusions we really wanted. example effect: taris after bombing

     conclusion we really wanted: if revan succeded to find the true sith and if the exile found him in the process.

  • @PiggyFate

    Yes, I'm not saying that the players will necessarily find Revan himself in SWTOR, but rather they've made it clear that we will at least find out what happened to him.

  • I cant believe how many Characters there are in KOTOR 2 that there were in KOTOR......I mean there is Canderous,( Also known as Mandalore ) There is T3,HK-47,Bastila,Carth Onasi Master Vrook and I think thats it......Unless Hanharr could be Zalbarr's brother or dad or someone..... Idk but...yeah :P

  • @zach5666

    Zalbaar's brother is Chunndar and his dad is Freyyr. xD

  • @zach5666

    If i remember right Hanharr is in the first game, on kashyk

    but maybe i am mistaken

  • @Smolko7

    Hanharr is in KOTOR2, he is a bounty hunter living on Nar Shadaar

  • @Smolko7 No, he isn't. He's actually a KoTOR 2 "Exclusive". The wookie from the first game is Zaalbarr, and Hanharr isn't found in KoTOR 1.

  • Dude the name is Kreia's Dark Theme, not Kreia and the darkside

  • @zach5666 Actually it is "Kreia and the Dark Side" as extracted from the game soundtrack.

  • This song is the best of all Kotor songs.

  • they had different goals or rather different methods, Sidious used politics, and Traya used the exile, both were manipulative and both very dangerous

  • awaken

  • when kreia[aka Traya] said "There must always be a darth traya" she spoke the truth even 4000 years later there was a Darth Traya though his name was different [Darth Sidious].

  • darth sidious was nowhere near as wise as darth traya though he may have been as minipulative

  • @eastcoaststandup I beg to differ to be able to fool millions in the senate and fool the damn Jedi for god sakes and you dont think thats impressive?? absurd.

  • i know i agreed with the fact that he was a very insidious man but he was not as wise as darth traya throuout the whole game she remained nothing but a mystery yet she was your greatest mentor

  • @eastcoaststandup ohh lol sorry man I misunderstood

  • lol you dont have to apologize for i see how you misunderstood "do not let your judgement be clouded in the future" lol nah but its fine haha

  • @MrUnclepeanuts

    traya was a badass though

  • yes. sidious was lika a living plague.

  • "there must always be a darth traya..."

  • That music is like the essence of the dark side. Just the opposite to the light side of the Force (Leia's News).

  • When I turned Kreia evil she still doesn't take her hood off.

  • @visorak168x you see her without the hood when kreia tells exile about her betrayal and it shows sion slamming her head through a wall that is when her hood is off

  • perfect music for Kreia

  • Sadly incomplete

  • @PeterJDeer like the rest of kotor2

  • perfectly define this game

  • i got it at christmas to and i didnt understand how to play it and had my guy punch the door at peragusesss for like 3 hours and then i youtubeed what i do and felt like a fucking retard.

  • did this game come out during christmas? cause I got it at christmas from my grandma :D

  • Very nice soundtrack...would have been a damn near perfect game if not for Lucasarts ass raping Obsidian into having the game out for christmas...hence the unclimatic boss fights and weak ending and unresolved plots.

  • just wait for the TSLRP to finish and the game WILL be perfect

  • Speaking of which, do you have any idea when the restored game will be released by Team Gizka? I know of the infamous "When it's ready" statement but do you think it could possibly be done before Christmas?

  • Pardon me but are u taling about the MMO or something else cuz i don't know what ur talking about what restored game.

  • Smug Statement: There are portions of the game that have been left out.

    Condescending Explanation: A par of the military base before you go meet Atris. There is a locked door to the sub-level of the military base, however you cannot access it.

    Mocking Query: Perhaps you have not played it to the level of others have? Maybe the meatbag in your question has had more experience in dealing with the game than you?

  • Looks like someone needs that pacifism implant reinstalled.

  • Irritated Declaration: I have played this game many times and modded it to add some... spice to it for more fun.

    Mockery: I mostly know a lot more about Star Wars then you but it appears that we will have to accept that we both know the same things in the game.

    Extrapolation: Perhaps they are planning to make a new more better KOTOR game other than that STUPID MMO what will soon be running around and corroding Star Wars's good name or otherwise.

  • Query: Why would an HK unit be a pagan?

  • Answer: Because they believe that all jedi like the Exile are pacifists.

  • Mocking Praise: Ahh, that explains it.

  • well, I all hoped for a summer release of couse but since they didn't...

    yeah, I think they can make it until christmas. However, I mod games myself and therefore I know how quickly things can get delayed over and over again. Still, no worries, they are almost done, it won't die on the last few lines of code.

  • the way its going, it won't be out until at least early next year.

  • There's another mod you can try. Search for TSL Restored Content Mod.

  • Is not this the music you hear when you travel to Korriban? Aah, you could almost feel the scent of the tombs i The Valley Of The Dark Lords, see how the Sith Civil War ended up... I really love the Sith Empire.

  • yeah it is, and if you have the pc version this is the music that plays when the disc is first inserted

  • kreia or darth treya what ever is simply awesome concept

    a leader striped of her power thrown out of all she knows meets another just like her.

    then he develops a bond to this individual linking their lives but kreia see this as a way to influence the exile to do as she wants but (depending on the side u chose in game) u fail her and she casts u aside feeling betrayed and takes up the mantle of sith lord again

    then the apprentice must kill the master for better or worse

    simply awesome

  • Yeah,you are right.Partly.

    The last hours sux.They didn't thought about this much deeply.

  • Kreia is no leader... she admits it herself

  • hehe... you forgot one part :P

    IT WAS EPIC XD

  • Kreia was a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge bitch but hey she added great story and was the fundamental background to the exiles story so cant live without her

  • Although she has tremendous manipulating powers I can only agree with the fact that she is irritating ... so to speak

  • this story rocked way better than the films even though the films didnt and couldnt show everything that appended during that timeline, and it always had a dark pressence surrounding it which is felt in this song one of my fav star wars songs of all if only it were long

  • i started to shit bricks when i saw that Flash back of kreia on Malachor and when this song started to play :O

  • yeah i know, i watched it like 4 times in a row because it was the first time i'd seen it, even though it was the 4th time i played the game

  • Why?

  • the thing that pisses me off about this game is it wouldve been game of the year had lucas arts actually gave it time to develop. i mean look at the half life series, everyone loves the game because its not rushed and everything makes sense, and i dont care what people say about wanting to continue Revan's story but the Exile was an amazing idea. And the idea of Kreia and the other Sith Lords, magnificent. I mean compare that to the stories of Darth Vader and Darth Maul.... they barely *cont*

  • Hold a candle to the stories of SIon and Nihilus and Kreia, specifically Nihilus' story. One of the most amazing sith lords actually has a pretty badass background. IMO he shouldve been in sions place at the academy, not SIon. Had he only learned to control his power. But anyways im rambling. Its just everyone loves the first kotor and give no credit to the second just becuase its glitched and what not. Personally, KOTOR2's story was even better than the 1st and its pretty amazing what obsidian

  • I agree, also its better with the infulencing

  • @Razor1097 but in the first you can have controll of the most badass sith in the history! =)

    and you also can get a badass fleet^^

  • @Razor1097 i agree 100% in every way. KOTOR 2 is the single greatest video game plotline of all time. It's my number 1 all time favorite for that reason

  • @Rawyr

    Sorry the first one was the best.... just needs a couple of mods for the feats just to make it more like this one... but still i kinda like the 2nd one... i like the robs... and some layouts... and the moon you landed on kicked ass... that was one of my favorites.... this one was mostly all talk in this one...

  • @AndrewH1993 Yes I enjoyed the first one quite a bit. It would be great if someone would port the entire thing to the new game engine. I enjoyed the second one but I found the storyline so depressing and dark, which wasn't such a bad thing but I couldn't help but feel hopeless a lot of the time. I would have really like to see how it turned out if it had been completed..

  • @SpankingPaul Yeah i know exactly what you mean when feeling hopeless.... to me there wasnt enough action like the first one... though i loved the Mandloran base..... that kicked ass.... and on Onderon's Sky Tower I loved all the battles... just the game was mostly talk in my experience..... was wondering if you felt that way too?

  • Did in such a short amount of time. Kotor 3 is going to be an amazing game, if LucasArts can keep their pants on long enough to let Obsidian actually run the course of its job. But w/e. 5/5 to this amazing song. Live on Kreia. Live on.

  • @Razor1097 no one hates their fans more than lucasarts

  • @TheGuyWithAWeirdName why is that?

  • @Legoghost14 lol, because of their focus on profit. I'm thinking about the rushed production of KOTOR II, they jnew obsidian could do with more time (the game wasn't even complete when it came out) but they wanted the game for christmas.

  • @TheGuyWithAWeirdName well it's still an amazing game to me

  • wasn't this used in some other game/movie?

  • I love Biowares' RPGs. Like Mass Effect, Jade Empire and KOTOR I and II. They're all super epic and the best Rpgs I've played. Though Fallout 3 is pretty good.

  • love it

  • best theme ever

  • best theme in all the game kreia's my second fav nihilus is my 1st

  • Kreia was like Chancellor Palpatine. Good and Evil., but more evil than good

  • well, i really wouldnt say palpatine was good, he was good in order to do bad things :P

  • Whoops, I accidentally gave it a 1 star. 5 for me, sorry!

  • Kreia helped to prevent KOTOR 2 from being a total disaster, she was a pretty fascinating character

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  • ya really the whole game was based her minipulations falling into plan untill the last fight with her

  • Is Lucas arts also to blame for not letting bioware make the second? Because I prefer kotor1's story over the second, even though the gameplay was improved the story should have definitely continued Revans role, not stupid holocrons making us guess what happened.

  • You try to make a good star wars RPG in 9 months then. It took Bioware over 2 years for KOTOR1 and it was still buggy.

  • Bioware gave the KOTOR project to Obsidian and Lucas arts agreed seeing that Obsidian studios are kinda owned by Bioware

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  • Obsidian contains most of the staff of former RPG creator Black Isle, and they were responsible for Baldurs Gate...

  • Bioware did most of BG series. Black Isle created Fallout series and Planescape: Torment. While all are classic games, you can actually see that their styles are different.

  • Korriban was a deception...

  • Korriban NEVER is a deception!!

    P.S - All hail Darth Traya, our favourite Sith Lady!

  • Maybe not on 1, but am I the only one who actually wanted to KILL Master Vash? Before you answer, yes, the cave was well done.

  • whats a deception?

  • This is one of my favorite games. My only problem with it, is the last few parts are rushed, and detracts from the game =( I really wish Obsidian put more time and effort into finishing this game the right way.

  • Actually LucasArts is the company to blame. They rushed Obsidian and only gave them 10 months to make the game.

  • I don't understand why people think it was bad. I preferred number 2 more than number 1, primarily because number 1 just pissed me the fuck off. It took me hours to get Juhani to talk to me, and even days to get her on my team. Then, when i killed her, the council started bitching. Also, the kath hounds were incredibly tough to beat with a normal lightsaber, so I had to swap Bastila's double before enetering teh Hangar at the Exchange place so I could use it. 2 rules!

  • Point 1: You need serious RPG skills bro

    Point 2: That's why they put an easy combat difficulty

    But 2 does rule, I'll give you that.

  • I played on hard during my first run of Kotor 1. I later realized the change. It's actually not that had now.

  • @Merhawk102 I know, that was such a pity!!! KOTOR II could have had the same profundity as KOTOR I, if Obsidian would have had more time to make the game..

  • 10 months to make the best star wars game ever

  • @Merhawk102 KOTOR 1 was in development for over 5 years, kotor 2 was in development for only a year really.

  • @Merhawk102 Obsidian actually wanted to release a patch for the game after it had been out for a while so that it would be more complete, but Lucasarts said no... for whatever reason.

  • @Merhawk102 I hate how they rushed it though loved the game anyway, but i'm waiting for someone from either company to pull their head out of their ass and realize they gave KOTOR 2 a patcher for a reason! If Blizzard can do it, so can Lucas Arts/Obsidian!

  • @ransac16 What really pisses me off, is there is no romance. How can it be a great game going on an adventure with your party and no romance?

  • @visorak168x there is romance, with your character, if male, and Visas Marr. Choose the right choices and you can see they love each other

  • @Legoghost14 I'm talking about kissing each other.

  • @visorak168x In some wierd way, that's so true.

  • Best 34 seconds of game music this century :D

  • This is why I love Kreia, the Sith and Korriban!

    All hail the Sith!!

  • One Word: AMAZING

  • I really love it, truly epic.

  • great track! probably the best of kotor 2!

  • i dont know

    i like the music while onboard the ebon hawk

    it's very relaxing

  • Korriban would have been cool, but in the rush to finish the game, they didn't go in depth about it...I mean, all of the other planets have some big event. (Onderun/Dxun is my favorite.)But Korriban is lame. Originally, Vash has a apprentice, and its his body you find in the torture room, and then you find Vash in the omb full of visions. And you and her force Sion and the Assassins off of Korriban together, and then you kill her...or she goes to Dantooine.

  • I kinda agree but it adds to the story of how much creepier and more depressing the sequel is since you've been away for years. Also, when you make it to a prestige level or something you get to do a flashback thing in the creepy tomb. Also adding to the story (plus you get to fight Revan, Malak, Sion, Bastila, a ton of Mandilorians, Jedi, and Sith... and you get some sweet stuff).

    But I get where you're coming from

  • my favorite theme =)

  • I love this music. Never mind Sion and Nihilus being nightmare-inducing, Kreia is spooky along with this music.

  • Although Kreia is hot

  • Waaaaa???!!!???

  • just kidding

  • me too it should never have existed

  • Hell Na!! Korriban is a really cool planet! Forget that its lik.. th source of all evil.. its still interesting. lol