Search for "Kalitta 66" and the first link is the NTSB report. Basically what happened is the plane took off with a faulty emergency door. Obviously it couldn't stay pressurized but the captain decided to continue the flight anyway so the crew donned their oxygen masks. Once it reached altitude hypoxia set in for the captain (but not the FO or FE) and he wouldn't relinquish the controls. Eventually the co-pilot was able to take over and landed the plane in Cincinnati.
@LUpilot2012 ..It is my opinion that the only way to get the airplane to a lower altitude would be to override the captain by use of physical force. When the captain requested higher altitudes, the first officer and I strongly protested, both verbally and by hand signals. These protests were repeated at least three times during the climb...All protests were disregarded by the captain....
Damn its a good thing that this lame ATC-operator is not flying any plane. Before he could make up his mind or respond he would either have hit the ground or beeing out of fuel!
@ScudRunnR He's totally coherent, so I'd think it's another aircraft. Would be pretty selfish of him to hog the oxygen for himself and not share with the pilot right next to him. And he didn't seem to be in any distress when the hypoxic pilot claimed he couldn't control altitude, airspeed OR heading... pretty sure it's the pilot of another aircraft.
Once the controllers suspected hypoxia why didn't they instruct the pilot to put on his oxygen mask? I would've said Kalitta 66, if able, descend and maintain one five thousand, and put on your oxygen mask!
I played this video for a controller friend of mine and asked him what he thought the problem was and he responded "he's drunk". I also asked another friend whos in school to be a controller and he'd never heard this video before either. This video Should be required viewing for any Air Traffic Controller. Its a great teaching tool..
This underscores only the seriousness of the harm which hypoxia can bring forth. As some one who has experienced it on the ground (in a safe chamber, that is), I can tell you that even when one realizes that is is truly happening, the hands feel like a deadweight as they are brought up to pull a mask down.
Think of how you feel when you are about to fall asleep after a tiresome day, and you can't move for the life of you as your eyes shut. Times that by 10, that is how hypoxia feels.
@Lisztman88 It's actually quite pleasant, I've been hypoxic before. It is totally painless and one of the main symptoms is euphoria. One of the best ways to go, if I had to choose.
@TheBoeingPilot the symptoms of hypoxia include impaired mental processes, resulting to a condition very similar to alcohol. So simply put, he was talking as fast as his brain could think
@Letsgodevils44 Ypsi is a town in southeast Michigan, near Ann Arbor west of Detroit. Nowhere near Cinci, good thing the other pilot corrected the controller.
Why did they tell him flight level 260 when it seemed like he had hypoxia? How did he end up at 11000, on his own?
Pilot seemed thinking and hearing fine but having trouble controlling his muscles. Think if he'd been drunk he'd have had more difficulty understanding instructions...
Man, watch some of the videos of people experiencing hypoxia in a training environment if you want to get a sense of how hard this pilot was having to work. There are clips of people in similar simulated conditions who can't even move their limbs properly, let alone maintain enough control over an aircraft to make an emergency descent to a safe altitude.
The ATC weren't aware of the problem. In review it is easy enough to guess what happening, and it's obvious on first listen since the title of the YouTube film is hypoxia.
But don't be so critical when the controller is thrown into a non standard scenario whilst still dealing with the separation of other aircraft. It isn't as straight forward as it seems when you're at the receiving end of the RT
A world of respect for both the pilots and ATC on the handling of this emergency. This is why I have so much admiration for line pilots. They stare death in the face with great training and utter control.
His A-OK sounds like "Other than that, how was the play Mrs Lincoln?"... I think the pilot also deserved an award. As for the ATC, someone who took his job lightly could have dismissed the pilot as drunk and caused a disaster.
While a commend ATC for working through the problem, they should have cleared that flight for an emergency decent instead of wasting time on a destination. With limited O2, there was very limited brain power. Throttle back and decend was the only instruction needed. ATC was fortunate they didn't loose the pilot as he passed out to O2 starvation. Lucky this pilot was able to get it down before it came down uncontrolled.
I remember when this happened. They tried to ferry the aircraft unpressurized with just the O2 masks. Non-pressurized Oxygen. The captian ended up with brain damage. The O2 maks are to meet the requirement to make 14,000 in 4 minutes. High dive only.
@350tranZam Yeah I missed it too first time watching. At 0:15 it refers to the "second pilot" as being in a different plane, but at 3:50 the "second pilot" is the co-pilot. Apparently once they decended to 11,000 the co-pilot became coherent.
That was amazing. The pilot certainly tried his best under extreme conditions and he struggled through despite being handicapped by the effecta of hypoxia. He deserves praise indeed.
pilot manged to controll the plane and he actually managed to handle his hpoxia must be experienced and determined. (possibly he has air force background.)
He thought the buzzer was an overspeed warning, although it was most likely the decompression warning. The co-pilot had already passed out, depending on the altitude he was lucky he didnt pass out either. He was above 26,000 feet for awhile, and usually at that altitude you have less than a minute of consciousness.
He thought the buzzer was an overspeed warning, although it was most likely the decompression warning. The co-pilot had already passed out, depending on the altitude he was lucky he didnt pass out either.
@crazypk40 LACK OF OXYGEN IN YOUR BRAIN. THATS WHY HE SPEAKS SO WEIRD IN HIS HEAD EVERYTHING IS SLOW AND DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. THIS PROBABBLY HAPPENED BECAUSE OF A CABIN DECOMPRESSION.
@praetorian2150 Hypoxia, not a condition someone can have its basically just what happens when you are not getting enough oxygen. Most people don't even realise when its happening to them so it was a good move by the controller to tell the pilot what to do.
The unidentified voice is another Controller, who got called by the mail Controller in this recording. Probably they had to coordinate a turn that brought the plane towards an area not under the main Controller's responsibility.
Thank you so much for uploading this, and for the thorough explanation of the circumstances. It's all to common on here to see aviation videos uploaded by clueless people.
That was an amazing piece of work by ATC. I'm impressed they correctly diagnosed the problem, and were able to help the pilots save the plane under such adverse circumstances.
it's quite a thing... this should be a slow decompression of the aircraft, so you start feeling drowsy and tired, almost like drunk, because oxygen is not getting to your brain... slow decompression is dangerous because is hard to realize what's going on, but it is very rare indeed....
Hypoxia is dangerous stuff...ive been in an altitude chamber and trained with a Letter box and questionaire. They make us take our masks off at FL240 and after about 1-2 minutes i couldnt put the pieces in the right spot and was spinning the box around like 10 times before the instructor asked me if i was ok. I didnt know how to respond to him so he put my mask on, and i snapped out of it as soon as oxygen was shot down my throat. It was very interesting
@Sh3pardMelody That threw me off too but if you go back to the beginning you see that the second pilot is actually in a different plane and I guess is following beside Him. Which means pilot 1 is alone in the cockpit.
@MrOhjames I doubt pilot 1 is alone in the cockpit since I believe KFS66 is a Gates Learjet 35 with dual flight crew requirements. And the number 2 pilot is probably like you say in another aircraft closer to KFS66. Hence able to pick up the radio transmissions more clearly than flight control might be.
In full retrospect, it's appropriate to find a respectful dose of humor in the pilot's powerful statement, having no control over altitude, airspeed, or heading, "other than that, everything A-OK!"...
...then to be followed by ATC's mature, skilled response, with the pilot's primal desire to return the aircraft to it's base to cap it off?!
This event is the rawest example of "experience" I have ever seen.
@flyindart , this apparently meaningless Euphoria is result of incoming hypoxia, there are several reports of behavioural alterations when O2 levels are lowering under 79%. Actually, it is like becoming drunk, more or less.
@flyindart I studie Aviation Studies in the Netherlands. The pilot doesn't want to be humourous, he can't help it. Hypoxia gives you (when you're almost fainting because of the lack of oxygen in your brain) an euforic feeling. Hypoxia is very dangerous because in most cases people don't even notice. They feel extremely happy when suffering from Hypoxia. That's why the air traffic controller already says he think's the pilot is suffering from Hypoxia. Still a fantastic job perform a save landing
something like this only happened on greece based helios airlines. all of them except one of the male stewards didnt pass out due to lack of o2. maybe he had put on the o2 mask. airforce jets were summoned to look into the matters of the ghost plane which had maintained its autopilot settings. but as the pilots also had passed out. the steward couldnt do anything. he crashed down the plane killing everyone aboard. thanks to natgeo i know this!
awesome stuff. ive rode the altitude chamber as well. as a light/social/whatever smoker, i didnt really have a problem with it. i could tell hypoxia was creeping in but you just kinda adjust and work with it. its not the knockout punch some people make you think it is. i mean it CAN be, but really, keep your wits and understand what is going on. nice job to all involved. have a smoke!
Incredible clip. It's interresting to hear what happens when hypoxia sets in. His behaviour where his mind is obviously trying to act according to flight trainign and procedures, but at the same time severely hampered by the lack of oxygen is facinating.
I know both pilots, and have flown with the captain a few different times. The FO didn't remember anything until you hear him come back on the radio around 11000 feet. Captain is a smoker, can't believe he didn't pass out completely. Thankfully this captain doesn't work for us anymore. There was nothing wrong with the airplane or the supplemental O2, pilot error in this case was the problem.
I did the altitude chamber training just to see what hypoxia was like. Even after the class and the briefing, neither I nor my 8 classmates recognized it in time and the instructors had to put the O2 back on everyone. That was an eye-opener for sure.
This is the ultimate example of cool heads prevailing in an emergency. man they should be so proud of themselves. They deserved the Archie Award for such professionalism. I think Pilots have become too dependant on new technologies, thank goodness there was old school on board, otherwise this would have been another sad story for the news. when the Co-pilot came too he didn't allow himself to be startled, he was brilliant as-well. But thank goodness for the people on the ground. HEROES.
Why did they not have oxygen handy? It needs to be within easy reach whenever you are above 15,000 feet. The rule exists specifically so this won't happen.
they were probably not trained to recognise this situation, since atc had to realise by themself it was a case of hypoxia. therefore they did not put on their masks, because they didn't know they needed them.
strange thing about hypoxia is that you don't know it is happening to you till you hear yourself in playback when with 2 feet on the ground.
I know these pilots. The reason the second pilot didnt talk is because he was passed out. The only reason either of them lived is because they had the autopilot off since the captain was an old school pilot and flew by stick, so the muscle movements kept him alive long enough to decend.
well they were around 35-40 thousand feet at first, then descended down to 11 thousand feet when the co-pilot regained consciousness and was able to speak clearly
wow...so thats what happens when otherwise capable pilots are subjected to low oxygen levels...good thing he didn't pass out with the autopilot holding them at cursing altitude.
actually i think Killata is drunk.
Reno50524 1 week ago
I dont think 7700 would help Scud
Reno50524 1 week ago
any part of the aircraft or the crew i believe he says
this is stoning :O great video!
miguelsaez340 2 weeks ago
Search for "Kalitta 66" and the first link is the NTSB report. Basically what happened is the plane took off with a faulty emergency door. Obviously it couldn't stay pressurized but the captain decided to continue the flight anyway so the crew donned their oxygen masks. Once it reached altitude hypoxia set in for the captain (but not the FO or FE) and he wouldn't relinquish the controls. Eventually the co-pilot was able to take over and landed the plane in Cincinnati.
icemachine79 3 weeks ago
So the second pilot was the co pilot? He seemed coherent why didn't he just take over if the captain was suffering from Hypoxia that bad?
LUpilot2012 3 weeks ago
@LUpilot2012 ..It is my opinion that the only way to get the airplane to a lower altitude would be to override the captain by use of physical force. When the captain requested higher altitudes, the first officer and I strongly protested, both verbally and by hand signals. These protests were repeated at least three times during the climb...All protests were disregarded by the captain....
inodesnet 4 days ago
How do you declare an emergency with your flight controls??
ScudRunnR 3 weeks ago 2
@ScudRunnR Squawk (= set your transponder code to) 7700
mceyran 1 week ago
@ScudRunnR the old way of doing it was to roll the wings from left to right at 5 degree bank and turn on and off wing lights
foxdmulder 16 hours ago
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karategirl676 1 month ago
Damn its a good thing that this lame ATC-operator is not flying any plane. Before he could make up his mind or respond he would either have hit the ground or beeing out of fuel!
flemmong 1 month ago
What Altitude was he at?
ScudRunnR 1 month ago
@ScudRunnR - FL330 = 33,000 feet.
SlamDuncDrummer 1 month ago
Connie on a typical flight?
Fullagas 1 month ago
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Stunt2one 1 month ago
@yourcup0322 Autopilot is an amazing thing, doesn't even need oxygen (contrary to the movie Airplane).
archer49d 2 months ago
So, is the "Second Pilot" a different aircraft, or the co-pilot of Kalitta 66??
ScudRunnR 2 months ago
@ScudRunnR Seems like the descriptor is used twice, the first time it seems like another aircraft, second time its the co-pilot.
archer49d 2 months ago
@ScudRunnR He's totally coherent, so I'd think it's another aircraft. Would be pretty selfish of him to hog the oxygen for himself and not share with the pilot right next to him. And he didn't seem to be in any distress when the hypoxic pilot claimed he couldn't control altitude, airspeed OR heading... pretty sure it's the pilot of another aircraft.
HittokiriBatosai 1 month ago
@ScudRunnR = different.
SlamDuncDrummer 1 month ago
Marijuana Airlines hehehe
Thiflankero 2 months ago
drunk pilot?
thegamer1504 2 months ago
@thegamer1504 Hypoxia! same effect as being drunk except that the having the hangover right now, lol
Triplewave4 2 months ago
@thegamer1504 Close to it, hypoxia or lack of O2 gives you drunk like behaviour.
You can even see trends of this in Top Gear as they try to scale a really tall mountain with their cars.
And a 737 from Helios did crash because of Hypoxia because the pilots got knocked out.
CMDRSweeper 1 month ago 5
Once the controllers suspected hypoxia why didn't they instruct the pilot to put on his oxygen mask? I would've said Kalitta 66, if able, descend and maintain one five thousand, and put on your oxygen mask!
lstorm2003 2 months ago
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kibz2005 1 month ago
I played this video for a controller friend of mine and asked him what he thought the problem was and he responded "he's drunk". I also asked another friend whos in school to be a controller and he'd never heard this video before either. This video Should be required viewing for any Air Traffic Controller. Its a great teaching tool..
lstorm2003 2 months ago
This underscores only the seriousness of the harm which hypoxia can bring forth. As some one who has experienced it on the ground (in a safe chamber, that is), I can tell you that even when one realizes that is is truly happening, the hands feel like a deadweight as they are brought up to pull a mask down.
Think of how you feel when you are about to fall asleep after a tiresome day, and you can't move for the life of you as your eyes shut. Times that by 10, that is how hypoxia feels.
CommissarASSHOLE 3 months ago
Amazing everyone made it out alright. Scary stuff.
Bottlelot 3 months ago
Incredible! Great work by pilot and ATC in getting the plane to safety.
cstrosser 4 months ago
They must of had the fish.
dcbuhrman 5 months ago 15
@dcbuhrman lol yes i remember now i had lasagne.
MrCriticOfAll 5 months ago
@MrCriticOfAll Surely you can't be serious!
BrendanKearnsMusic 5 months ago
@BrendanKearnsMusic I am and stop calling me surley!!!!!!!!
MrCriticOfAll 5 months ago
Unable to control altitude. Unable to control airspeed. Unable to control heading.
Other than that, everything A-OK!
Thank god that was the only thing wrong!
MrPrankStyle 5 months ago 89
@MrPrankStyle HAhahaha right!
titolevis 4 months ago
Sounds like a scary condition that I would never want to have to go through.
Lisztman88 5 months ago
@Lisztman88 It's actually quite pleasant, I've been hypoxic before. It is totally painless and one of the main symptoms is euphoria. One of the best ways to go, if I had to choose.
frauspi 3 months ago
@frauspi Haha, awesome!
Lisztman88 3 months ago
Oh shit , did i just post that , i must have been suffering form hypoxia
1ginner1 6 months ago
@1ginner1 must have been some bad food poisoning.....
sf200425997 5 months ago
Jst as a daft question , why wa the pilot suffering from Hypoxia in the first place?
1ginner1 6 months ago
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kowallaonskis07 6 months ago
@TheBoeingPilot the symptoms of hypoxia include impaired mental processes, resulting to a condition very similar to alcohol. So simply put, he was talking as fast as his brain could think
kowallaonskis07 6 months ago
why is he talking so slow?
TheBoeing737Pilot 6 months ago
Wats ypsilanti ?
Letsgodevils44 6 months ago
@Letsgodevils44 Ypsi is a town in southeast Michigan, near Ann Arbor west of Detroit. Nowhere near Cinci, good thing the other pilot corrected the controller.
Why did they tell him flight level 260 when it seemed like he had hypoxia? How did he end up at 11000, on his own?
Pilot seemed thinking and hearing fine but having trouble controlling his muscles. Think if he'd been drunk he'd have had more difficulty understanding instructions...
malamagr 2 months ago
WOW!!
djayatosu 6 months ago
Man, watch some of the videos of people experiencing hypoxia in a training environment if you want to get a sense of how hard this pilot was having to work. There are clips of people in similar simulated conditions who can't even move their limbs properly, let alone maintain enough control over an aircraft to make an emergency descent to a safe altitude.
reluctable 6 months ago
@Krazfm
The ATC weren't aware of the problem. In review it is easy enough to guess what happening, and it's obvious on first listen since the title of the YouTube film is hypoxia.
But don't be so critical when the controller is thrown into a non standard scenario whilst still dealing with the separation of other aircraft. It isn't as straight forward as it seems when you're at the receiving end of the RT
Arrows2100 6 months ago
A world of respect for both the pilots and ATC on the handling of this emergency. This is why I have so much admiration for line pilots. They stare death in the face with great training and utter control.
signmanbob2 6 months ago
His A-OK sounds like "Other than that, how was the play Mrs Lincoln?"... I think the pilot also deserved an award. As for the ATC, someone who took his job lightly could have dismissed the pilot as drunk and caused a disaster.
ibrahimhcaglayan 7 months ago 2
Thank goodness everyone was okay. Well done to keeping calm in the few of adversity!! Hats off to you guys :)
HeavenlyGaze 7 months ago
I am glad everyone is okay. Hats off to the Pilot and the ATC .
GravityKaguya 7 months ago
Damn, that could have turned out very bad! Great work by both the pilot and ATC!
mistert51 8 months ago
While a commend ATC for working through the problem, they should have cleared that flight for an emergency decent instead of wasting time on a destination. With limited O2, there was very limited brain power. Throttle back and decend was the only instruction needed. ATC was fortunate they didn't loose the pilot as he passed out to O2 starvation. Lucky this pilot was able to get it down before it came down uncontrolled.
krazfm 9 months ago
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BabexiGenieaa206 9 months ago
I remember when this happened. They tried to ferry the aircraft unpressurized with just the O2 masks. Non-pressurized Oxygen. The captian ended up with brain damage. The O2 maks are to meet the requirement to make 14,000 in 4 minutes. High dive only.
12Jetdiver55 10 months ago
@12Jetdiver55 That's not the same incident as this one.
GigsVT 9 months ago
pilot's talking like a drunk all that time and the controller does dick. that's some great SA. bleh.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 10 months ago
shouldn't the second pilot have taken over since he sounds ok to operate.
350tranZam 11 months ago
@350tranZam The 2nd pilot was in a different plane. The Co-pilot had already passed out.
dwmascho 11 months ago
@dwmascho oh. i guess i didnt see that part where it said "second pilot in different plane"
350tranZam 11 months ago
@350tranZam Yeah I missed it too first time watching. At 0:15 it refers to the "second pilot" as being in a different plane, but at 3:50 the "second pilot" is the co-pilot. Apparently once they decended to 11,000 the co-pilot became coherent.
dwmascho 11 months ago 2
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dwmascho 11 months ago
lack of oxygen...
wAtomAstroBoy 11 months ago
WOW... fuc,,kn..g wow he's an amazing pilot ! .. him and Capt. Sully are a fu..ckn.. inspiration ... wow..
luiskurt206 11 months ago
hats off to the ATC and the pilot. Isn't it great when people rise to the challenge and make it work?
forestskog 11 months ago 2
That was amazing. The pilot certainly tried his best under extreme conditions and he struggled through despite being handicapped by the effecta of hypoxia. He deserves praise indeed.
weeiain1 1 year ago
What a god damn bloody hero! Having known people who had sufferd from hypoxia this guy should be given a fecking medal!
josephiles 1 year ago
who is the 2nd pilot??
cpark005 1 year ago
hes not drunk, mother of god
thelopespilot 1 year ago
pilot manged to controll the plane and he actually managed to handle his hpoxia must be experienced and determined. (possibly he has air force background.)
shadowfax1903 1 year ago
He thought the buzzer was an overspeed warning, although it was most likely the decompression warning. The co-pilot had already passed out, depending on the altitude he was lucky he didnt pass out either. He was above 26,000 feet for awhile, and usually at that altitude you have less than a minute of consciousness.
Could have been a disaster.
Weefles 1 year ago
He thought the buzzer was an overspeed warning, although it was most likely the decompression warning. The co-pilot had already passed out, depending on the altitude he was lucky he didnt pass out either.
Could have been a disaster.
Weefles 1 year ago
What is Hypoxia?
crazypk40 1 year ago
@crazypk40 He is out of oxygen, and probably bathing air saturated with CO2.
th3dig1tal0n3 1 year ago
@th3dig1tal0n3 Ok! thanks!!!
crazypk40 1 year ago
@crazypk40 LACK OF OXYGEN IN YOUR BRAIN. THATS WHY HE SPEAKS SO WEIRD IN HIS HEAD EVERYTHING IS SLOW AND DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. THIS PROBABBLY HAPPENED BECAUSE OF A CABIN DECOMPRESSION.
neper1982 1 year ago
@neper1982 Thanks for the info!
crazypk40 1 year ago
Sounds like pilot after dentist
Nautical1994 1 year ago 36
There should not have been passengers on the plane anyway because Kalitta is a cargo operation.
flyguyify 1 year ago
don't drink and fly! LOL,,,,
tailwheelflier 1 year ago
I was in ground school with both pilots in 2008. I have words....
rocketav8r 1 year ago
DRUNK PILOT!
HelloHansSolo 1 year ago
@HelloHansSolo
rocketav8r 1 year ago
the controller should have noticed the hypoxiA!!!!!
RupDadFakeYell 1 year ago
The controller should have recognized the symptoms and ordered immediate decent. Several minutes were wasted unnecessarily.
ismasamov55 1 year ago
imagine if the cabin mic was toggled on for that exchange. i would be scared shitless
praetorian2150 1 year ago
Get out of fl260 would be the smart thing for the controller to do, Its called an emergency decent
MissyMicole23 1 year ago
Perhaps the pilot is a swiss one - they are always quite slow... ;-P
FrontPlayer01 1 year ago
so what happened here....oxygen went to shit or did this pilot just have the condition biologically?
praetorian2150 1 year ago
@praetorian2150 Hypoxia, not a condition someone can have its basically just what happens when you are not getting enough oxygen. Most people don't even realise when its happening to them so it was a good move by the controller to tell the pilot what to do.
Mick10010 1 year ago
@Mick10010, ok thx for the clarification.
praetorian2150 1 year ago
Best example of inflight Hypoxia I have ever heard
Andrew57110 1 year ago
The unidentified voice is another Controller, who got called by the mail Controller in this recording. Probably they had to coordinate a turn that brought the plane towards an area not under the main Controller's responsibility.
fabmic 1 year ago
Thank you so much for uploading this, and for the thorough explanation of the circumstances. It's all to common on here to see aviation videos uploaded by clueless people.
That was an amazing piece of work by ATC. I'm impressed they correctly diagnosed the problem, and were able to help the pilots save the plane under such adverse circumstances.
zebidee55 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this compelling piece of audio!
RyanBomar 1 year ago
my flightschool people who work there met the guys on the plane they are lear pilots
JARRAH1415 1 year ago
That is some scary stuff! How common is Hypoxia? Anyone? I'd like some real data on this, Pilots, I'm looking at you...
meltz911 1 year ago
it's quite a thing... this should be a slow decompression of the aircraft, so you start feeling drowsy and tired, almost like drunk, because oxygen is not getting to your brain... slow decompression is dangerous because is hard to realize what's going on, but it is very rare indeed....
daspidrr 1 year ago
Hypoxia is dangerous stuff...ive been in an altitude chamber and trained with a Letter box and questionaire. They make us take our masks off at FL240 and after about 1-2 minutes i couldnt put the pieces in the right spot and was spinning the box around like 10 times before the instructor asked me if i was ok. I didnt know how to respond to him so he put my mask on, and i snapped out of it as soon as oxygen was shot down my throat. It was very interesting
propilotcfi 1 year ago
I take my hat off to the pilot. His determination, despite the conditions his brain was having to work under, was incredible.
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JetTheJockey 5 months ago
correction - May have been unconscious the whole time...
IndridCold07 1 year ago
2nd pilot was unconscious the whole time. Just talked about this clip @ the FAA ATC academy this week.
IndridCold07 1 year ago
ok... iam confused... there was a second pilot the whole time?... why didnt he say somethingg
Sh3pardMelody 2 years ago
@Sh3pardMelody That threw me off too but if you go back to the beginning you see that the second pilot is actually in a different plane and I guess is following beside Him. Which means pilot 1 is alone in the cockpit.
MrOhjames 1 year ago
@MrOhjames I doubt pilot 1 is alone in the cockpit since I believe KFS66 is a Gates Learjet 35 with dual flight crew requirements. And the number 2 pilot is probably like you say in another aircraft closer to KFS66. Hence able to pick up the radio transmissions more clearly than flight control might be.
mog89 1 year ago
@mog89 Aaah that makes sense! I wonder why He was silent.. Thats very odd.
MrOhjames 1 year ago
Experience is gained by making mistakes...hopefully small mistakes.
DougDaCosta 2 years ago
In full retrospect, it's appropriate to find a respectful dose of humor in the pilot's powerful statement, having no control over altitude, airspeed, or heading, "other than that, everything A-OK!"...
...then to be followed by ATC's mature, skilled response, with the pilot's primal desire to return the aircraft to it's base to cap it off?!
This event is the rawest example of "experience" I have ever seen.
flyindart 2 years ago 69
@flyindart , this apparently meaningless Euphoria is result of incoming hypoxia, there are several reports of behavioural alterations when O2 levels are lowering under 79%. Actually, it is like becoming drunk, more or less.
anisocoro 1 year ago
@flyindart I studie Aviation Studies in the Netherlands. The pilot doesn't want to be humourous, he can't help it. Hypoxia gives you (when you're almost fainting because of the lack of oxygen in your brain) an euforic feeling. Hypoxia is very dangerous because in most cases people don't even notice. They feel extremely happy when suffering from Hypoxia. That's why the air traffic controller already says he think's the pilot is suffering from Hypoxia. Still a fantastic job perform a save landing
fluiter2004 11 months ago
tenso
liftpow 2 years ago
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Av8trxx 2 years ago
That was pretty intense!
JohnDH1977 2 years ago
something like this only happened on greece based helios airlines. all of them except one of the male stewards didnt pass out due to lack of o2. maybe he had put on the o2 mask. airforce jets were summoned to look into the matters of the ghost plane which had maintained its autopilot settings. but as the pilots also had passed out. the steward couldnt do anything. he crashed down the plane killing everyone aboard. thanks to natgeo i know this!
addi138 2 years ago
awesome stuff. ive rode the altitude chamber as well. as a light/social/whatever smoker, i didnt really have a problem with it. i could tell hypoxia was creeping in but you just kinda adjust and work with it. its not the knockout punch some people make you think it is. i mean it CAN be, but really, keep your wits and understand what is going on. nice job to all involved. have a smoke!
DoctorIncredible 2 years ago
Incredible clip. It's interresting to hear what happens when hypoxia sets in. His behaviour where his mind is obviously trying to act according to flight trainign and procedures, but at the same time severely hampered by the lack of oxygen is facinating.
mkarnerfors 2 years ago 3
sounds like connie out trying to save a buck.
beergut111 2 years ago
@beergut111
hey cocksuacka! you are fucking fired.", it's what connie would reply. that crazy old boss of mine
IntoxicatedTV 1 year ago
Forget to turn the bleeds on?
Merlinbird 2 years ago
I know both pilots, and have flown with the captain a few different times. The FO didn't remember anything until you hear him come back on the radio around 11000 feet. Captain is a smoker, can't believe he didn't pass out completely. Thankfully this captain doesn't work for us anymore. There was nothing wrong with the airplane or the supplemental O2, pilot error in this case was the problem.
drawson25 2 years ago
What was the pilot error?
bravo45 2 years ago
I did the altitude chamber training just to see what hypoxia was like. Even after the class and the briefing, neither I nor my 8 classmates recognized it in time and the instructors had to put the O2 back on everyone. That was an eye-opener for sure.
joy2fly05 2 years ago
This is the ultimate example of cool heads prevailing in an emergency. man they should be so proud of themselves. They deserved the Archie Award for such professionalism. I think Pilots have become too dependant on new technologies, thank goodness there was old school on board, otherwise this would have been another sad story for the news. when the Co-pilot came too he didn't allow himself to be startled, he was brilliant as-well. But thank goodness for the people on the ground. HEROES.
zuludelta100 2 years ago
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Av8trxx 2 years ago
Why did they not have oxygen handy? It needs to be within easy reach whenever you are above 15,000 feet. The rule exists specifically so this won't happen.
cryptogentic 2 years ago 2
they were probably not trained to recognise this situation, since atc had to realise by themself it was a case of hypoxia. therefore they did not put on their masks, because they didn't know they needed them.
strange thing about hypoxia is that you don't know it is happening to you till you hear yourself in playback when with 2 feet on the ground.
crazymonkeyVII 2 years ago 5
wow.....wow!....MAN THAT SUX!...IMAGINE THE FUSTRATION!..WOW
CarlosLatino1 2 years ago
I know these pilots. The reason the second pilot didnt talk is because he was passed out. The only reason either of them lived is because they had the autopilot off since the captain was an old school pilot and flew by stick, so the muscle movements kept him alive long enough to decend.
wiggy81594 2 years ago 2
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Av8trxx 2 years ago
why is the pilot speaking, i mean the second pilot looks a lot more ok, he should do all the talking?!
skat0r 2 years ago
Co-pilot wasn' didn't even know what was goin on...he couldn't talk at all.
pocopilot 2 years ago
then who is second pilot and why did he reply to an instruction to the plane with the pilot with hypoxia..?!
you sure you're a pilot?
skat0r 2 years ago
well they were around 35-40 thousand feet at first, then descended down to 11 thousand feet when the co-pilot regained consciousness and was able to speak clearly
pocopilot 2 years ago
lol maybe, what ever its not that important
skat0r 2 years ago
because the second pilot is in a different airplane...
N520UP 2 years ago 4
why he speaks so slowly, hypoxia? omg, did they land safely?
soundlikeFabian 2 years ago
shit. hope it never happens to me =|
stefil9 2 years ago 2
Scary stuff! Great job by ATC!
helobelow 2 years ago
yikes...... you can hear the cabin altitude warning horn throughout most of the event.
JC10255 2 years ago
wow...so thats what happens when otherwise capable pilots are subjected to low oxygen levels...good thing he didn't pass out with the autopilot holding them at cursing altitude.
masterchiefgtx 2 years ago 7
you mean cruising altitude, not cursing altitude.
bg11215 2 years ago
Of course, I meant that.
masterchiefgtx 2 years ago
Hello vatusa!
HouieLouy 2 years ago
@HouieLouy Olah
N756TA 1 year ago
Incredible...
sundek88 2 years ago