Kafka's novels are difficult to read and interpret. I think The Trial has a multi-layered meaning (if one at all). The nightmarish absurdity of bureaucracy is one of them. The court its self is locataed in attics and hard to get to areas to represent the hardship of bureacracy. It can also be a metaphore for the unconscous, how memories are stored in the attics of the mind. Kafka's books are about an unseen yet omnipresent danger. A noose that get's tighter the more you struggle to get free.
@danieljliversLXXXIX I am pretty sure the general theme of the Trial is that of a religious allegory. OF course, it is multi-layered and even religious organization can be seen a beureacracy, but I think this is generally a mis-interpretation of the book. That is my opinion of course.
@srm2888 I think The Castle has more to do with religious allegory than The Trial. The Trial is more of an Absurdist story - a man trying to find meaning in the absurd situation that has fallen around him. Of course it can be both. The Castle is more heavey on the beureacracy, though. The Castle can also be an Absurdist story - the unreachable truth that we search for in vain.
I enjoyed this book quite a bit. The ending wasn't completely satisfactory, though. Too bad he never finished his books. I wish he would've been involved in the editing. Anyway, what's important to kafka is the ideas behind his story. The goal is to get you thinking about what it could mean. For me, it's a good display of absurdity in the complete judgment of your existence by every individual you meet and, also, the weakness of being closed minded in a cold, unforgiving world.
hmmm, the uncle is the best character in it! just go with the flow, enjoy the book, do , n ot worry about the fact that kafka is trying to be clever for the sake of being clever, dont feel stupid. its a good book, im doing it for my A level drama, im K!
Is it possible that what existed in the attic is what existed in his own mind, the absurdness of his own existence and the absurdness of the many perplexing issues of how society existed in his era?
@seaofsin20 That's highly possible. Maybe by saying it was in every attic, that automatically symbolizes that it's the higher, more obscure ideas like the absurdity of judgment and bureaucracy and what have you, the cobwebs that lie in everyones mind. People don't do well when they confront powerful ideas, they lash out against them or are physically unable to ponder them. This can be seen in his automatic hatred towards the court and the inability to breathe the air.
It also talks about the human being "against" the law.
Both these novels have films made of them. I've only seen Crime and Punishment, but i'm looking forward to see The Trial I just finished reading it tonight, and i felt the same thing you do. I felt dumb, and i looked up for things related to the novel.
The trial is partly about how the individual seeks to be acknowledged and accepted by society ("the Law"), even when he thinks he's independent of it. Notice, for instance, that the authorities in the Trial do not summon him to the main "interrogation" -- he calls *them* because he feels he should. Notice that they don't repress his movements or his speech. It is Joseph K who feels he must make himself "right" with the law. He seeks out the Law -- not vice-versa, as he believes.
(cont) you also have instances where even K's lawyer is ultimately interested in subordinating him with that scene just before K fires him.
Finally (I could go on, but you get it by now) in the passage you read, the men were punished for damaging the court's reputation rather than for any actual crime that was committed.
Ultimately, like I said, there is no one meaning to any Kafka novel. That's what's so great about it, he provokes thought without much steering, he let's you go it your own.
I usually interpret it as a sort of quasi-anarchist statement. He concentrates on hierarchy mostly, as you've pointed out. Since anarchists also consider anyone inside the state as being "allied", in his trial statement he notices that even those who seem to be "on his side" have badges, taking them as aggressors. You also see it with Titorelli's Justice as an aggressor and the whole painting is done for the ego of the Judge.
Your teacher is a retard. I think your initial problem is that you think the trial is like your Hollywood retard films where everything makes sense. The court is not meant to be considered a real court. It never uses physical force on him and only informs him that he is trapped. You have to interpret this book for yourself and if you still cant find anything then let me suggest Harry Potter.
Well I agree with the spirit of what you said (not the tone though) but seems like I do remember them using a tad bit of force on him towards the end.
but yes it's very dreamlike and with components that defy this or that interpretation.
Joseph K. was Kafka's alter ego. Kafka felt himself abhored and despised by European society only because he was a Jew. So... when shall we fuck, pretty woman?
The Trial (German: Der Process) is a novel by Franz Kafka about a character named Josef K., who awakens one morning and, for reasons never revealed, is arrested and subjected to the rigours of the judicial process for an unspecified crime.
According to Kafka's friend Max Brod, he never finished the work and gave the manuscript to Brod in 1920. After his death, Brod edited The Trial into what he felt was a coherent novel and had it published in 1925
And thats why people over the world is makjing their own histories but its just so easy like reading let us just study his biography so we can know what happaned in his life. Especially why he wrote this. Since 1993 literature professors know that he wrote this because kind of "inner screaming" of his frustration of his father and his gulty life :-)
ok now enough about kafka or i will have nightmares ahahah .D just try to help :-) i am a writer too i published 3 books and wrote 8 books i studing now cinematography but i study eofre that almsot 4 years psichology and before that 4 years history and before that 2 semester medicine ahah so :-p they are all human science studies so sooner or later yo uwill have those works ahah .-Dthats how i start to know kafka
and last but not least (lol) :-D again i said it haha english is very reduced language with only 79 900 words german with 144 000 words (spanish witth 135 000 words) so its normal when languages are translated not always it translate well their metaphers, and their way of using the words...:-)
its really good to see a woman like you , good looking AND INTELLIGENCE and with a lot of education ... today you balrey can find those things together in a human beeing :-(
i will continue watch other videos of yours :-D (even if they arent like this one ) lol
kafka i know almost all his boks.. the trial is really deep, in this book the writer based especially on the bad relationshio he has got with his father thats why he wrote this, on a metaphoric way...
your english teacher is a really dumb man.. this wasnt humour that book... :-p it was kind of surrealsitic metaphoric book. prolly he based on some old theories from the 50 (your teacher) :-)
Were the trial re-written, it would could be Rozencrantz and Guildenstern are dead.
MoveFX 1 year ago
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DanielTheWalrus 1 year ago
why is this video going super fast?
Afrosheen 1 year ago
Kafka's novels are difficult to read and interpret. I think The Trial has a multi-layered meaning (if one at all). The nightmarish absurdity of bureaucracy is one of them. The court its self is locataed in attics and hard to get to areas to represent the hardship of bureacracy. It can also be a metaphore for the unconscous, how memories are stored in the attics of the mind. Kafka's books are about an unseen yet omnipresent danger. A noose that get's tighter the more you struggle to get free.
danieljliversLXXXIX 1 year ago
@danieljliversLXXXIX Excuse me, how the truth is often buried in the cluttered attics of the mind.
danieljliversLXXXIX 1 year ago
@danieljliversLXXXIX I am pretty sure the general theme of the Trial is that of a religious allegory. OF course, it is multi-layered and even religious organization can be seen a beureacracy, but I think this is generally a mis-interpretation of the book. That is my opinion of course.
srm2888 1 year ago
@srm2888 I think The Castle has more to do with religious allegory than The Trial. The Trial is more of an Absurdist story - a man trying to find meaning in the absurd situation that has fallen around him. Of course it can be both. The Castle is more heavey on the beureacracy, though. The Castle can also be an Absurdist story - the unreachable truth that we search for in vain.
danieljliversLXXXIX 1 year ago
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danieljliversLXXXIX 1 year ago
I enjoyed this book quite a bit. The ending wasn't completely satisfactory, though. Too bad he never finished his books. I wish he would've been involved in the editing. Anyway, what's important to kafka is the ideas behind his story. The goal is to get you thinking about what it could mean. For me, it's a good display of absurdity in the complete judgment of your existence by every individual you meet and, also, the weakness of being closed minded in a cold, unforgiving world.
billyg89 1 year ago
Kafka dealt with the overwhelmingly oppressive nature of bureaucracy and found humor therein
redpaul79 1 year ago
You sound like Boxxy.
unknown2022 1 year ago
love your voice
stephtab 2 years ago
I couldn't see the book clearly which you were waving at the start of your video
CharlotteSimmons1 2 years ago
you are simply hot!!!!!!! do you have a boyfriend?
oduro0111 2 years ago
5.25 you hit it on the head, I hope you understand now...
stox500 2 years ago
hmmm, the uncle is the best character in it! just go with the flow, enjoy the book, do , n ot worry about the fact that kafka is trying to be clever for the sake of being clever, dont feel stupid. its a good book, im doing it for my A level drama, im K!
cool
gregcoulson 2 years ago
I'm writing my master's thesis on The Trial.
samsjd 3 years ago
I know it´s very dumb but before you ask all this question to yourself you should read his "Letter to his father".
This little book is very important to understand Franz Kafka (lots of connections).
By the way he was Austrian and they are famous to harm the whole world :P So he does in lots of Subjects ... ( I´m German ;)
regards, Julian
CooliChulio 3 years ago
Is it possible that what existed in the attic is what existed in his own mind, the absurdness of his own existence and the absurdness of the many perplexing issues of how society existed in his era?
seaofsin20 3 years ago
@seaofsin20 That's highly possible. Maybe by saying it was in every attic, that automatically symbolizes that it's the higher, more obscure ideas like the absurdity of judgment and bureaucracy and what have you, the cobwebs that lie in everyones mind. People don't do well when they confront powerful ideas, they lash out against them or are physically unable to ponder them. This can be seen in his automatic hatred towards the court and the inability to breathe the air.
billyg89 1 year ago
i am writting a project about the trial, and this book makes me dizzy.
boyclver 3 years ago
what have you learned about it? I would like to get as many opinions and information as I can.
ghbnghjvfdbghxcd 3 years ago
you know what other book you should read?
Crime And Punishment, by dostoievski.
It also talks about the human being "against" the law.
Both these novels have films made of them. I've only seen Crime and Punishment, but i'm looking forward to see The Trial I just finished reading it tonight, and i felt the same thing you do. I felt dumb, and i looked up for things related to the novel.
ScratchVideos 3 years ago
The trial is partly about how the individual seeks to be acknowledged and accepted by society ("the Law"), even when he thinks he's independent of it. Notice, for instance, that the authorities in the Trial do not summon him to the main "interrogation" -- he calls *them* because he feels he should. Notice that they don't repress his movements or his speech. It is Joseph K who feels he must make himself "right" with the law. He seeks out the Law -- not vice-versa, as he believes.
LeoTheBoy 3 years ago
(cont) you also have instances where even K's lawyer is ultimately interested in subordinating him with that scene just before K fires him.
Finally (I could go on, but you get it by now) in the passage you read, the men were punished for damaging the court's reputation rather than for any actual crime that was committed.
Ultimately, like I said, there is no one meaning to any Kafka novel. That's what's so great about it, he provokes thought without much steering, he let's you go it your own.
mutulus 3 years ago
I usually interpret it as a sort of quasi-anarchist statement. He concentrates on hierarchy mostly, as you've pointed out. Since anarchists also consider anyone inside the state as being "allied", in his trial statement he notices that even those who seem to be "on his side" have badges, taking them as aggressors. You also see it with Titorelli's Justice as an aggressor and the whole painting is done for the ego of the Judge.
mutulus 3 years ago
Your teacher is a retard. I think your initial problem is that you think the trial is like your Hollywood retard films where everything makes sense. The court is not meant to be considered a real court. It never uses physical force on him and only informs him that he is trapped. You have to interpret this book for yourself and if you still cant find anything then let me suggest Harry Potter.
mw6805 3 years ago
Well I agree with the spirit of what you said (not the tone though) but seems like I do remember them using a tad bit of force on him towards the end.
but yes it's very dreamlike and with components that defy this or that interpretation.
mutulus 3 years ago
Joseph K. was Kafka's alter ego. Kafka felt himself abhored and despised by European society only because he was a Jew. So... when shall we fuck, pretty woman?
Pavl0Escovar 4 years ago
Double sandwich!
fulsomstryk 3 years ago
I found somehting for you :
The Trial (German: Der Process) is a novel by Franz Kafka about a character named Josef K., who awakens one morning and, for reasons never revealed, is arrested and subjected to the rigours of the judicial process for an unspecified crime.
tinosvblog 4 years ago
According to Kafka's friend Max Brod, he never finished the work and gave the manuscript to Brod in 1920. After his death, Brod edited The Trial into what he felt was a coherent novel and had it published in 1925
tinosvblog 4 years ago
And thats why people over the world is makjing their own histories but its just so easy like reading let us just study his biography so we can know what happaned in his life. Especially why he wrote this. Since 1993 literature professors know that he wrote this because kind of "inner screaming" of his frustration of his father and his gulty life :-)
tinosvblog 4 years ago
ok now enough about kafka or i will have nightmares ahahah .D just try to help :-) i am a writer too i published 3 books and wrote 8 books i studing now cinematography but i study eofre that almsot 4 years psichology and before that 4 years history and before that 2 semester medicine ahah so :-p they are all human science studies so sooner or later yo uwill have those works ahah .-Dthats how i start to know kafka
tinosvblog 4 years ago
and last but not least (lol) :-D again i said it haha english is very reduced language with only 79 900 words german with 144 000 words (spanish witth 135 000 words) so its normal when languages are translated not always it translate well their metaphers, and their way of using the words...:-)
just for the record :-)
tinosvblog 4 years ago
and last but not least:
its really good to see a woman like you , good looking AND INTELLIGENCE and with a lot of education ... today you balrey can find those things together in a human beeing :-(
i will continue watch other videos of yours :-D (even if they arent like this one ) lol
tinosvblog 4 years ago
you should read amerika or the castle ( its a philosophical novel) and really good :) the trial is really really dark...
tinosvblog 4 years ago
kafka i know almost all his boks.. the trial is really deep, in this book the writer based especially on the bad relationshio he has got with his father thats why he wrote this, on a metaphoric way...
tinosvblog 4 years ago
your english teacher is a really dumb man.. this wasnt humour that book... :-p it was kind of surrealsitic metaphoric book. prolly he based on some old theories from the 50 (your teacher) :-)
tinosvblog 4 years ago
a tipp: just read it until the end you dont need to understand jsut need to conenctrate in what happnes and not why it happnes :)
tinosvblog 4 years ago
NERD.
Steakface 4 years ago