Doctors report Israel using DIME (Dense Inert Metal Explosive) weapons in Gaza

[Trowns]

@thebestsumoeva

Bullshit! Israel is the main-reason to all the wars in the Middle-East. If they want peace, they''ve got to stop occupy Palestine and treat the Palestinian inhabitants as crap. You know under the "Operation Cast Lead", over 1400 people were killed by the Israeli army, which of 85 % percent were civilians. This can't even be called war: this is a massacre! Israel has become the new Nazi-Germany.

By the way: ht tp://w ww.israel-stop.co m/carte-israel-palestine.jpg

[thebestsumoeva]

@Trowns So your one and only point is that Israel should abandon their country? Israel has every right to defend it self and given they are surrounded by countries that have all banded together to wipe them off the map and managed to survive shows their dedication to life. When their neighbors stop firing rockets at them they will stop retaliating.

[Trowns]

@thebestsumoeva

No, the Israeli people should have their only country, of course they should. But they should not occupy and take over Palestine areas. They should accept the borders from 1960s-1970s, since the Arab countries already have accepted it...

It's wrong to let Palestine suffer for their own lust of more land!

[thebestsumoeva]

@Trowns You do know Israel was invaded by all their neighbors and it was during this when they expanded their territory right? They also gave up some of the land they managed to take before retreating to their country. I agree they shouldn't expand anymore nor should they shutdown water ways to their neighbors, but if they are attacked they have every right to not only defend themselves, but to go on the offensive.

[thebestsumoeva]

This doctor is an idiot, nuff said...

[Trowns]

@thebestsumoeva

You're an idiot! Dr. Mads Gilbert is a hero and he's talking true. Can't really see why too many people is supporting Israel when Palestine is the ones who really should have been supported. The Israeli army is the real terrorists...

[thebestsumoeva]

@Trowns Israel has been invaded by every single one of its neighbors. The sad part is after they maintained their ground and even took some land of their neighbors they gave the land back. Now their neighbors still call for their death but know they can not forcefully take it so they rely on subservient ways to try to undermine them. The only reason I support them is because their government is one of democracy and peace. They don't believe in taking power from their people like their neighbors.

[Henbot]

@thebestsumoeva its like bombs that are filled with tiny fragments of glass that shred you (dust), the wounds will be very different like a snow droplets of cuts and anyone close to it will be shredded completely Israel bombed civilin places not military places , no excuse for direct targeting on a massive scale civilins that are defenseless with full scale weapons, yes if you attack you defend but civilins done feck all,plus neighbours so pissed because of the oppression of palestine, duh.

[lny746]

Good Job, thats the way to deal with terrorist scum..wipe these pieces of turd

[Henbot]

@lny746 sorry you do realise you just dehumanizing civilins, children that aint done nothing like the nazi's dehumanized jewish people and with that attitude your showing its the exact same thinking as nazis and if you are jewish and lost any relatives in the holocaust they are undoubtly turning in their graves at such disregard for humanity that they or other jewish people where the victims of that you replicate and show, you have become the monster that slaughered your people and evil.

[truthkils]

next time use a quarter.

[ephemerol]

sickening.

[Blackpestis]

Interesting that Israel is being criticized for what is essentially a more humane bomb. I presume the bomb is being used on the smuggling tunnels due to its overpressure characteristics. Anyone in the immediate area is presumed to be Hamas, who is who they are trying to kill. They could drop 500lb or other conventional munitions and kill innocent Palestinians in the area due to the large area of damage from these weapons. War stinks & kills civilians, which is why people try to avoid.

[walidot]

the problem is they arent using it on hamas they're using it on everything that moves.

[nilbud]

Genocide stinks and kills civilians. All the jews learnt from the shoa was technique.

[saeedan42]

Let the fkin zionists have palestine or whatever they want. Muslims need to leave and live in the mountains as the prophet told us to do in end times. Let the antichrist come, the sooner he gets her, the sooner Jesus gets here to give the bitch-zionists wot they deserve.

[nilbud]

You're a subnormal retard go fuck your imaginary friends up the ass you depraved cunt.

[saeedan42]

nilbud, why? why should I? wt did u not like about wot I said? are u a zionist? please xplain... : (

[nilbud]

Your fairytale horseshit about magic jesus and mohammad the jumped up camel dealer and chosen people is all a load of fucking bollocks and it's what has the fucking halfwits fighting over "magic" buildings. Everyone who believes in god should get a suicide pill so they can fuck off and leave the sane people alone.

Isn't your life difficult enough without diet tips and fashion advice from imaginary friends?

[saeedan42]

I'm sorry that u deny God but for me the evidence is clear - there are too many co-incidences for life to exist.

No one is truly fighting over 'magic' buildings. They're truly fighting over land n resources.

One must never commit suicide as tomorrow they may do a deed that places them in Heaven if they weren't bound for it today.

Some people may consider your depth of resentment n anger as insane.

Unclear where the diet tips n fashion advice comment comes from?!

[saeedan42]

My comment suggested that true believers (who ever they are and there are many from various faiths and backgrounds) should reject the world the gutter elite have created and live self sufficient lives on mountain sides. It did not promote violence.

Whether you accept it or not, I have accepted the Qur'an due to the evidence I have recognised. Jesus will be the sign of the final hour. After him, no repentence will be accepted.

If you disbelieve, good luck to you.

[ggalen]

Do you know how funny you fuckers sound talking about a weapon specifically designed to be used where it is being used, and now you want to say it is Dangerous? Damn Right its dangerous! ROFL. What ass-clowns

[uncleardegree]

they should NOT be using DIME at all

[ggalen]

It is overlooked that Hamas leaders can somehow bail out through the Egyptian border, but the poor densely populated civilians in Gaza aren't allowed to exit that way. Hmmmm. I wonder why that is? Why would a mostly muslim nation bordering Gaza not allow those civilians to leave? Probably a better question is, why is the ass-clowns on youtube don't cry foul on this muslim country? I think it has something to do with an agenda. Do you think we are all stupid? War is terrible. Thank hamas for it.

[inbrooklyn2008]

Hamas vowed to completely renounce armed struggle if Israel withdrew to its 1967 borders.

Moreover, as U.S. Presdent Jimmy Carter wrote for the Washington Post (go ahead, denounce him as a Palestinian dupe like Dr. Gilbert and Ha'aretz) said that the Israeli government violated its own cease fire - and encouraged Hamas by blocking the passage of sufficient amount of humanitarian aid into Gaza.

Just go on pretending that the I-P conflict has only one side. The world laughs in your face.

[ggalen]

It did in 2005. Jimmy Carter told Yasser Arafat not to take the deal years ago, and it cost the PLO its existence. And the 1967 borders moved to the edge of Egypt over the 6 day war, if you recall. 6 days, and three nations got their ass handed to them for attacking Israel. Do you really want to keep referencing another dumbdown move by muslims? The world knows why Israel went into Gaza, and that's why little ass-clowns like you are crying foul. You don't get it.

[inbrooklyn2008]

No, it offered to renounce violence altogether in '06 in exchange for the land Israel took in 1967 - an offer refused by Israel.

And Carter couldn't have "told Yasser Arafat not to take the deal years ago" because there were no negotiations between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization until the late 1980s and '90s - Arafat was still hunted by Israeli forces as an enemy into the '80s.

The world has passed multiple UN resolutions calling on Israel to go back to its '67 borders.

[ggalen]

In 2005, Israel exited Gaza completely. The suicide bombers lost the Pali's their jobs in Israel. On the day Israel walked completely out of Gaza in 2005, the rockets started. They had Gaza, but wanted more. They didn't get it. Hamas is dying. Watch the video. After 9/11, the PA was on american TV expressing condolences, while the Gazans celebrated and handed out candy. Something they do on holidays, though it wasn't a holiday. I have no pity for the Gazans, or for your whine.

[inbrooklyn2008]

The one whining and bullshitting is you, ggalen.

Simply look up "Status of territories captured by Israel" on Wikipedia.

"Israel's government also states that since the Gaza disengagement of 2005, it does not militarily occupy the Gaza strip, a statement rejected by Human Rights Watch."

The link to the Human Rights Watch source is there as well --

hrw . org / english / docs / 2004 / 10 / 29 / isrlpa9577 . htm

[inbrooklyn2008]

Yeah, there were radical Palestinians and kids bribed by the candy they were handing out shown celebrating. Out of a population of more than three million.

Haven't heard of "representative sample"?

There are Palestinians with relatives in the United States.

Of course, no Palestinian struck the United States in 2001, but the continued oppression of the Palestinians in their own native land is a big factor as far as the rage Muslims around the world feel towards Israel and its US ally.

[ggalen]

Rage on. Even the liberals who have misstepped in their support for the Gazans will regret it when they see Sharia law injected into their society. At that point, nobody is going to care how old you are or where you live. You cry fou because your sensibilities are hurt, and the sane will let you talk that over with Allah. Have a last day, dumbdown.

[inbrooklyn2008]

Don't project your own rage upon those calmly handing you your own ass on a platter with facts. Blind Islamophobia is the only recourse you are left with.

At this point, it's not even worth it to respond to you.

QED, QED, dumdown.

[ggalen]

you don't have any facts. You selectively pick a time in history concerning an area that has been OWNED by anyone willing to walk over it to defend some nonexistant ownership. The Gazans couldn't control their mad dogs so Israel is doing it for them. There isn't one armed conflict that islamic extremists haven't injected themselves into. For the moment, I live where there aren't any extremists. The first one who pops up, pops down forever. Go Israel!

[ggalen]

And the same shitheads that are talking about dime weapons seem to overlook that hamas does not wear uniforms when it launches attacks on Israeli civilians, hides among the civilian population, and both of these acts are against the Geneva convention. There's a war crime that needs INVESTIGATION, you pudding headed morons.

[inbrooklyn2008]

"DIME bombs leave Israel's victims with mystery wounds: Jerusalem faces a UN call for a war crimes investigation"

-- The Belfast Telegraph, 19 January 2009

belfasttelegraph . co . uk / news / world-news / dime-bombs-leave-israels-victi­ms-with-mystery-wounds-1414566­5 . html

[WarDogLRS]

Israel you will pay dearly

[ggalen]

Kind of missing the point behind DIME. First, you pukes cry civilians are dying even though you have precision weaponry. Then, when the precision weaponry that limits collateral damage is used, you piss and moan that like it is some kind of secret weapon being tested on Palestinians. Well, its being used on hamas, but it is hardly in a test stage. Just too pricey for the poor Pali's. Guess those rockets weren't such a good investment after all, eh hamas! Thanks for asking, fuckheads.

[inbrooklyn2008]

And all I'd objected to was your slanderous character assassination of Mads Gilbert. By the way, though DIME has a small blast radius, it's cancer-inducing, and produces wounds that are clinically untreatable.

Thanks so much for highlighting its possible experimental use in Gaza.

[ggalen]

Mads as a Hatter is a jew hater known for 40 years. Despite the atrocities and the need for medical help in Gaza, he made his videos and is now out of the country. I guess the emergency is over. YOU CAN ALL STOP WORRYING NOW. Mads took care of all the injured!. Conspiracy theorists, enjoy your rant. No one believes you for a moment. You'll rail against the knowledgeable until your blue, and it won't matter a damn bit.

[inbrooklyn2008]

Don't bullshit again, ggalen. Because he reported on Israeli atrocities, Mads is an anti-Semite? You gonna give some proof?

No need. You've already committed a character assassination -- without the slightest basis to substantiate your bull.

[ggalen]

MSN pulled his video that was supposed to be a brother filming his own brother's death. The living "brother" is a long time friend of Mads and an "independent reporter" who just happens to own a web hosting company that hosts two Hamas websites. The video in question was pulled after several medical doctors who saw the film reported several discrepancies between what is shown and what would actually occur in any emergency room. It was staged.

[inbrooklyn2008]

They pulled it? A video made by Mads?

So, link to any source alleging that it was pulled? With evidence that it was filmed by Mads?

(I bet you won't come up with anything.)

[ggalen]

?v=bfUZcrg6_v4 is the video on youtube. Find it on MSN if you can, dickhead. You won't.

[inbrooklyn2008]

Yeah, right on that YouTube page you wrote:

"CNN has yanked...[a video]...because the footage in the hospital room was very likely staged for propaganda effect."

I'd heard of the story, which is why when you said it was MSN I smelled BS.

"Likely staged" and "staged" are different things - to date, CNN's offered no retraction of their story; they HAVE made statements that it was genuine:

edition . cnn . com / 2009 / WORLD / meast / 01 / 09 / gaza . video . accusations / index . html

[inbrooklyn2008]

"Leftist Norwegian doctor makes Hamas propaganda!"

Enjoy your fail.

[ggalen]

No statements that it was genuine except that Mads had them made and he was in Gaza when he made them. Get it, semantic boy? And CNN would video you during your nightly ritual of goat fucking if they thought it would get them ratings. You're a fucking jew hater looking to propagandize, just like Mads. The world knows why this is happening in Gaza, and that's why no one is rushing to save them. Epic Fail.

[inbrooklyn2008]

Nothing about Dr. Mads Gilbert or his statements specifically in there, except that the boy on camera was "treated by the Norwegian team."

Stop lying (again). Go read the link.

By the way, I'm Jewish.

[ggalen]

You're bullshit. PRESSTV? LOL. 24/7 run by Iran.

[inbrooklyn2008]

Here's a link to Ha'aretz, a left-wing Israeli newspaper, with articles by Jews who aren't fascism apologists:

haaretz . com / hasen / spages / 1055927 . html

"Gazans have noticed that there are bombs that produce mushroom clouds in various shades of red. Here, Garlasco admits, "I can only speculate. It looks like Israel is maybe using a new weapon that it was not using before: DIME - the dense inert metal explosive, consisting of 25 percent TNT and 75 percent tungsten, a heavy metal."

[ggalen]

No one has condemned the use of DIME. It does its job with less collateral damage. Those hit by it were targeted. Colored smoke is frequently used as a marker. Get your head out. This is a war against hamas. Take your whistle and shove it. Its a llittle late to be crying foul after thousands of rockets flew from Gaza to Israel.

[inbrooklyn2008]

Al-Jazeera has cited a German and Norwegian medics "condemning" Israel's use of DIME (to go by Google).

But you'll again attack the source. So here:

"Neither white phosphorus nor Dime bombs are illegal, but campaigners say the way they have been used, especially in Gaza's densely packed urban areas, could constitute a war crime."

Belfast Telegraph, 19 January 2009

belfasttelegraph . co . uk / news / world-news / dime-bombs-leave-israels-victi ms-with-mystery-wounds-1414566 5 . html

[ggalen]

Get real. Dime bombs are used to minimize collateral damage, including civilians. If they want to stand next to a target, let them get shredded. There won't be any claim of war crime due to this use. This reverse logic doesn't work on educated people. The Dime bombs are dropped for the specific purpose of killing someone. Get it?

[inbrooklyn2008]

We all know how Israel has "minimized" collateral damage.

[ggalen]

Good. Then stop your incessant whine. Want to be referee? Blow your whistle as loudly for the hamas atrocities as you do toward the Israelis, ass-clown.

[inbrooklyn2008]

When HAMAS wreaks bloody havoc on the eighth most densely-populated area of the world with carcinogenic DIME bombs and white phosphorus shells, I'll "whistle as loudly" too, ass-clown.

[ggalen]

Thousands of rockets from Gaza into Israel. Hundreds of dime rockets and bombs on Gaza and the death of most Hamas. The leadership of hamas is in hiding. The lack of reporters save those inside Gaza (hamas supported) results in nothing but a flood of propagandized news. The world understands this, and the whining won't change a thing.

[ggalen]

He's been making shit up for 40 years. This is his academy award show.

[inbrooklyn2008]

Brilliant character assassination again, bro.

I see you describe yourself as a Caananite -- identify with Israel much?

No evidence, like I thought.

[ggalen]

Gilbert was presented as just an ordinary doctor. But Gilbert appears not to be just an ordinary doctor. He is a political activist and member of the Norwegian Maoist 'Red' party. Not only is he viscerally hostile to Israel and a long-standing activist in the Palestinian 'solidarity' movement, but he even supported the 9/11 attacks.

[saltoafronteira]

ggalen: If he supported the 9/11 attacks he is in fact a zionist and most probably mossad !

Where have you been sleeping all these years ?

In Ashkelon ?

[inbrooklyn2008]

He supported the attacks?

He said "I am upset by the terrorist attack, but I am at least as upset over the suffering that the US has caused."

"In an an interview with the Norwegian news agency NTB in 2009, Gilbert [stressed] that he is completely against terror against civilians."

See the "Mads Gilbert" Wikipedia article -- elementary research.

You are a fucking liar -- good job whitewashing the Israeli massacre-machine.

[ggalen]

You are a fucking liar." When asked if he supported a terrorist attack against the US he answered: "Terror is a poor weapon, but my answer is yes, within the context I have mentioned."

[inbrooklyn2008]

Not referring to 9-11:

"I think that occupied or oppressed human beings have a full right of resistance, for independence, just like we did against the Germans. But I'm absolutely against terrorism against civilians, and I'm against the terror attacks in New York..."

"Jeg mener at okkuperte eller undertrykte mennesker har full rett til å slåss for uavhengighet, akkurat som vi gjorde under tyskerne. Men jeg er helt imot terror mot sivile, og jeg er også imot terrorangrepet i New York..."

[ggalen]

Keep quoting the Mad as a hatter Bilbo. It still wont' come out as anything but propaganda from a 40 year veteran of jew hatred. Rant on, but watch the news. This little triste with Hamas isn't over. Just heard the Hamas leadership is trying to sneak back into Gaza and declare the victory they missed. LOL.

[rwallacegoldaline]

I got in trouble today in Beirut with a bunch soldiers. Their reason, being, "You look Jewish." Then they inspected my cigarettes, by smoking one, and sent me off with a nice, "Kis eiyri!" and a smile. I've also been kicked by soldiers in Hamra, till my knees bled, arrested by the police for looking syrian, and put in jail over night for being outside too late. In their defense my hair is kinda reddish, and I do sometimes look syrian, but in my defense, i don't see why it matters.

[LEsquimeauOennuye]

That sucks mate, i honestly cant say i have ever experienced anything like that, where are you from ethnically?

[VercingetorixXIII]

Well, if we are using Israeli logic then Israelis are victims of Isreal and its leaders, it is the peoples fault for electing those bloodthirsty leaders, dont blame the palestinians for the bombs, use Izraeli logic...

[freedrum]

That Drs name is Mads Gilbert. He's a Hamas supporter and communist! I wouldnt believe half of his bull crap!

[zakuk77]

For 18 months, people in Gaza have been under siege, incarcerated inside the world's biggest prison, sealed off from land, air & sea, caged & starved, denied even medication for the sick. After the slow death policy came the bombardment. Rivers of blood are being shed under lies & false pretexts. For 6 months Hamas observed the ceasefire. Israel broke it repeatedly from the start:

guardian . co . uk / commentisfree / 2009 / jan / 06 / gaza-israel-hamas

[EDB0223]

The Lies of starving and raping have been proven to be lies. We see Hamas buying rockets and arms to start this war with Israel. The smugglers don't smuggle food or medicine! They smuggle cigarettes and Viagra! Hamas is to blame for all the suffering in Gaza today!

[zakuk77]

I think you need to wake up from your slumber and from the desanitised process of zionist propaganda. Bring your proof if you want to be taken seriously! Alternatively, you can read this interesting article:

asiapacific . mediamonitors . net / content / view / full / 57859

[averitas]

Who gated them in that prison? Excuse me, they voted. They have money for rockets, why not food and meds? I've never seen the trucks coming there out of Israel turned down in favor of building businesses, hopitals, sewers and other infrastructure.

It's a river of lies alright. Your six months is a lie. Why does Israel have to take care of them?

You and your taqiyya... try harder.

Meanwhile, give your brothers a shout-out and tell them to lay off welfare, get a job or two/UK.

[zakuk77]

For 18 months, people in Gaza have been under siege, incarcerated inside the world's biggest prison, sealed off from land, air & sea, caged & starved, denied even medication for the sick. After the slow death policy came the bombardment. Rivers of blood are being shed under lies & false pretexts. For 6 months Hamas observed the ceasefire. Israel broke it repeatedly from the start:

guardian . co . uk / commentisfree / 2009 / jan / 06 / gaza-israel-hamas

[rwallacegoldaline]

I agree. The entire Arab mentality, is, that if they aren't destroyed, they're victorious, and that everyone is their enemy. It's ridiculous to see that Hamas is continuing bombing Israel using their own people as collateral. Hamas should give up and dissipate, they're asking for what's happening.

I'm not defending Israel violence though, just an offensive towards stereotypical arab stupidity.

[EDB0223]

Hamas was warned to stop attacking Israel with rockets. The world has had more than enough to act to stop Hamas but did nothing. Hamas is responsible for all the killing! DIME weapons are used to keep from killing large groups at once. Israel has said they wiil stop when Hamas stops firing rockets into Israel but Hamas keeps firing.

[zakuk77]

they are not rockets, they are glorified fireworks with no impact or power to do any damage! It was the perfect pretext for jewish nazis to launch their holocaust!!

[EDB0223]

zakuk77, SAID"they are not rockets, they are glorified fireworks with no impact or power to do any damage!"

Tell that to the people they killed and terrorized, Hamas was warned for months and hit Israel with over 3000 rockets. We all knew what was going to happen and now that it does you people want to complain? The world is tired of your whining and bailing you out of you messes! We refuse to do it again!

[zakuk77]

Do you know what "disproportionate" means? Hamas has fired 3,450 Qassam rockets at zionist targets in the last 7 years killing 17 Israelis and injuring 433! The Jewish/nazi terror state has fired over 400 missiles in the last 11 days alone and killed over 700 Palestinians and injured over 2000! How the fukc does an inbred zionist arse-licker not understand the nazi state's annihilist policy towards Palestinians!? We know WHO WANTS TO WIPE WHOM OFF THE MAP.

[leprechaun1188]

Israel has acted atrociously, but Hamas has to take responsibility for their actions. They need to STOP hiding out in the civilian populations proving themselves to be no more than cowards. I pray for the innocent civilians in Gaza.

[zakuk77]

Top 5 lies about Israel's assault on Gaza:

tinyurl . com / 78cgdo

Lie #3: Hamas is using human shields:

There's no evidence that Hamas uses human shields. Gaza is a small piece of land that is densely populated & Israel engages in indiscriminate warfare such as the killing of Nizar Rayan, in which members of his family were also murdered. It is victims like his dead children that Israel defines as human shields in its propaganda. There's no legitimacy for this interpretation under int'l law

[RockinJoeDavis]

Sounds like a new depleted uranium knock off weapon. Tungsten instead of DU, yuck!!

[EDB0223]

Tungsten is in a normal light bulb.

[RockinJoeDavis]

And it is sealed up by glass, safe from ingestion. Tungsten is also a heavy metal, micro particles of Tungsten breathed into the soldier's lungs may have unknown health effects. Do you remember "Gulf War Syndrone", when firing around alot of depeleted uranium shells was popular and considered "safe"?

[RockinJoeDavis]

Tungsten has been shown to act by antagonizing the action of the essential trace element, Molybdenum. Long industrial experience has indicated no pneumoconiosis to develop among workers exposed solely to W or its insoluble compounds (at air concentrations of the order of 5 mg/m3).

[RockinJoeDavis]

Acute health effects: Irritating to the skin and eyes on contact. Inhalation will cause irritation to the lungs and mucus membrane. Irritation to the eyes will cause watering and redness. Reddening, scaling, and itching are characteristics of skin inflammation. Follow safe industrial hygiene practices and always wear protective equipment when handling this compound.

All tungsten compounds should be regarded as highly toxic. The metal dust presents a fire and explosion hazard.