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  • Ed o neil is the man!

  • Haha if Peg looked like that AL would never leave home rofl

  • Far out she had a LONG way to walk

  • she is hot 

  • LEE..LAAA

  • is there like note Baderman you know like a Bounty Hunter type,TAKE'S KATEY SAGAL TO STRAIGHT TO HELL,FIRE AND OPERA!!!!,you know I went to Hell before I was Gay I as a women as the Fag's ****ed me all Day and Night ALL FAG'S

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  • @MrCourtyC Cracklin John!! Cracklin John!!! I just the Macantousch Crack Whore on *** that beating me off for 40 Dollars in a Motel with Crack Lension's on her face I use as a Skeleton figure an Artistic touch in that Judge Dud ******* when she say's was in MUAH HOUSE ON JESUS!!!! A FOUR TAKE DOWN!!!! DON'T THINK TO FAR YOU KNOW THE BUNDY'S,YOU BE LOOKING KURT SUTTER FRANCES ON HIS PINK BIKE!!!!

  • @MrCourtyC Now for some Final Frontier with some word for word with **** Gorman:Ohh yea Baby,as I sit in the Days Inn with myself and a bunch of Fags and some Fine ***!!! B**che's well I was age 25,ripped and very nice Body,smoking some hard crack,I was getting ****ed by all the Fag's and yea some girl's some had cricked Teeth,get who supported me well try to guess,and those Hollywood Night's/)/)/) and those Hollywood Spill's

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  • @MrCourtyC Now for some Final Frontier with some word for word with **** Gorman:Ohh yea Baby,as I sit in the Days Inn with myself and a bunch of Fags and some Fine ***!!! B**che's well I was age 25,ripped and very nice Body,smoking some hard crack,I was getting ****ed by all the Fag's and yea some girl's some had cricked Teeth,get who supported me well try to guess,and those Hollywood Night's/)/)/) and those Hollywood Spill's

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  • @MrCourtyC you know im reffering to the second comment here I wrote,was a Days Inn at N.W. **th Street ahh.

  • @MrCourtyC where not done sitting here with Nascar,there was dealers there int he Days Inn as People would Party there very very very Hard and very very Hard Time!!!!,ohh there was some Undercovers runing threw sometimes as some People notice 900 hundred thousand something like that,and those Hollywood Nights and those Hollywood Spills!!!!

  • @MrCourtyC John Daly word for word:I want to ride a Harley ; ( Hey : you ****ed with the wrong Marine!!!! Cracker!!!!,Do you have Cigarette?,stop putting Bab and Luke on the air shaking there hands in North West LA House's

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  • @MrCourtyC you want me to get the Gym Dork back into this:we said no to Katey Sagal because she's UGLY!!!!!

  • @MrCourtyC now for your Husband Kurt with all that Crack in muah Notes,WELL YOU KNOW THE CODES LIEK WHERE ARE YOU FROM?UHM HOW'S YOUR WESSON OIL AAHHAAHHAAHHAAHHAAHHAAHHAAHHAA­HHAAHHAAHHAAHH!!!!,CAN SOMEONE PASS SOME CRYPTO PLEASE

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  • @MrCourtyC Hey : Kurt Sutter I knwo those Prince Gun handling with me really crushed yoru Wife,you know the Hard,Gay men in the Famous and Imfamous shootout.Did her ***ssy melt

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  • @MrCourtyC Now it is time to talk about Johny the Barrell's

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    !,I hope you didn;t put him on the air,did you save him from Life?

  • They said not to write on this so soon,lol ****** OOUUAA OOUUAA the Turaus's ) OOUUAA OOUUAA,leave that on a tickle uhm,LEE'S CLEAR HERE MAN,we showed Scotch uhm.

  • gemma teller otto stahl al bundy and sam hanna.

  • I just won some of those Holy's "you know the sniff's when im out" I looked at Mr. Dennis's site,can somebody pass some Sushi I love Sushi,I take awesome SH***T'S!! Kurt Sutter word for word:Good Star Spangle

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  • Close your eyes and imagine Leela saying this. Do it.

  • Ohh you can;t see these comments,what about that Lamp from the other world!!!!,when your Wife and I were traveling in my Cadilac "will use the Barder" when we past that Gas statation on a normal travel,ohh its short cut to take ********** to the Highway etc.,ohh I know you couldn't miss that Bust with the Police will say at the known Gas station Dealers ah.,while the Police made hard Bust on Chico and his Homeboys selling crack,say did one of the Dealers use to sell to Erin who Cathy's X yip!

  • @MrCourtyC uhm don't miss the Koleski a few down

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  • @MrCourtyC lol I guess that Ended in a weekend Uncle Eric,go over the reelz.com Google search or other search of Len Wiseman OLD!! ASIA!!! OLD!! ASIA!!! Phillip Noyce lol HORSE LIFT'S HIM UP 1 2 3 with my ****ing

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    !,well did you Guys see them,talk to Calli ****** about certain coffee don;t miss the Cigar with Genuis on the reelz.com also uhm OLD ASIA!! OLD ASIA!!! OLD ASIA!! OLD ASIA!!!!!!! HORSE LIFT'S 1 2 3

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  • @MrCourtyC Howard Stern an image word for word:good Star Spangle Bangle

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  • NOW LETS TALK ABOUT INGRID!! INGRID!!! WE!!! WEE!!! WEE!!!,SHE KNOWS PERSON OF INTEREST!!! T.V. SHOW YOU SEE IT ALL RIGHT THERE JEFF GORDON AND TOM WATSON WON AFETR THE UHM SEALS THAT DIED,AFTERTHE OSAMA KILLING,ALL THOSE CRACKER'S MOVED TO ****TURY COUNTY WITH ALL THOSE WINS

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    !,READ GOOD SEARCH TARANTINO.INFO ALSO MY LAST COMMENT WITH UHM A LIGHT GUIDE

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  • KKKAAAPAAASSSEEEAAA!!!!!

  • @MrCourtyC I guess this is going to the Len Wiseman search Google etc.,to the reelz.com right abive I guess the Ended in a weekend Uncle Eric

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  • Now I have to save all of you Guys,****** City one Vamp with my writing here at my House with my People Osama Bin Laden off the map,ohh should I bring up the Hard and Wierd right now Koliski on my Grandma started wining hard,fast,and weird here my Dad ohh Carl Kyle after the Seals that died all the way down to the last Race daam!!! good win Tom Watson feels like the first time the very first time,well we knwo him 2009 a 59 year old that almost won the British at 59,ohh he won the 2011 Seniors.

  • CAN'T SAY WE DIDN'T TRY TO HARD,UHM ARMAND ****** GOLF AHH. THE DEVIL'S DEAD WITH A LIFE TIME SPORT OF A FULL ***RTER ROCCO WRITING AND A FULL GENUIS ON ANY ISSUE I ATTACHED TO THE WEBSITE AND THIS COMMENT AND WHEREEVER I GO A FULL WIRTING,WHAT DO MEAN?!!! MOM I CAN WRECK I'VE BEEN MELL GIBSON KEHR ****** C. ALL YEAR THE GUYS ****ING RETARED OHH ITS CLEAR ON THAT .,BUT GOD DAM!!! GENUIS

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    !,ALSO DO YOU WATCH NASCAR?I SHOULDN'T BRING UP GOLF ANYMORE SHOULD I?

  • @MrCourtyCCAN I SLEEP ALSO NOW, I GOT TO CALL IN ONE OF THE MASTERS,WELL SHE WOULDN;T BE UNLESS IT WAS GENUIS,IM ****' ' UHM KURT SUTTER GOES HOME GYM DORK

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  • @MrCourtyC that Blond *** that come over my House,remember that Prison I was in with that furious Captain,woou!! woou!!! that first Ora of the Anex of the process centers etc.,she said to just leave her right there ALL GAS PPPPPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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  • haha man thats one hot bitch!!!

    Damn! BTW She still sounds like Leela lol

  • look at that bitch Stahl faking happiness. Call Opie, he'll take that smile out off her face right away.

  • @dahfshx come on Luke my note's:as I look toward's a white new State Van that Pulled up to my House onmy front yard and I pace a Bowling on the owner at **ist's Shoulder,Luke says to me with his head up a little bit those are my note's also Courty

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  • @MrCourtyC Ohh you thought I was going to do a an orginal Gay kinda Fag hounding Horse Sh***T!! fromt he past hunting,like don;t do anything you will regret?,ohh this gets really really Nastier then thoughs types?how Nasty?well I was just going to keep it it at the Days Inn on N.W. 79th Street with a Few Good Crack Whore's with Cricket Teeth all Partying hard with some real Fag's and myself ) well the Guy with the ripped back on my set in those really Gay clubs in LA,next comment etc.

  • @MrCourtyC extended next comment down from the Ending,no do not loose in Lousiana Jeffrey,as the Fag with the ripped Back was blowing me all night with the Crack Whore's witht he Cricket Teeth,never mind the LA's Sweetie's I had a ten inch Dail-Ivory pumping loads in there mouth's all week and smoking Crack all week with them

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  • omg, red dress

  • she will always be peggy

  • Big Like!!!

  • Wow, what a beautiful speech!

  • Nice voice leela ;)

  • I just had a dream of nailing her last night. Yeup... Brought me to this video

  • @v4lkyr what the frak are you talking about for Christ sake?

  • why is covert affairs nominated -.- such a lame show and she isn't really good at acting

  • at 0:49 the blond is like WTF

  • Love Katey as Peg Bundy, Leila and Gemma, she is a Legend. Gotta Love her.

  • 1:34 Hi, Cris Nolan!

  • MILF!!!!!!

  • Look how happy Ed O Neill is for her!!!!

  • @amarieoflothlorien Hows your Kurt Sutter Frances LLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQQQQQQ­QQQQQUUUUUUUUUUUIIIIIIIIIIIIII­TTTTTTTTTTTTTTAAAAAA LAAAAAAQQQUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTT­AAAAAAAA,DID YOU KNOW IM ALSO A DENNIS **** MODEL AAAAAHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHH

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  • @amarieoflothlorien ENOUGH OF YOUR HORSE SH***T!! KEITH,SEE YOU IN SPRING TIME!!!

  • @MrCourtyC uhm the Carl Edward's first few commet I left on,right in the front can;t miss my name Courty,ALL SAUCE HERE AFTER WRAP IT UP,AND ANAL ARMAND STATEMENT ON the Tarantino.info lol from Google search.

  • @amarieoflothlorien Ohh these are backing to Ruth's in O9.Ohh I know you know that Dinner,Wayne Newton lol ahh. you won;t miss Keith

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    !,well what am I looking for on my notes,well as my Dad the Dirctor and im the Debuty Director ((((((ECHOES)))))) should my Dad an di bring up Grandma when my Dad,myself,and Paul Kehr brought them up in our House,uhm some weird Guy in Nascar named Koleski grabbed 3 SP500 etc. or whatever you call those Nationwide lol and 3 Sprints uhm.

  • @amarieoflothlorien Time to go over some of those CALHOUN'S!!!!!,LAY DOWN IN THERE IN BAKER STREET,AND YOU WILL DRINK THE NIGHT AWY AND FORGOT ABOUT EVERYTHING,AND HE'S GOT NO SOUL AND FORGOT YOUR WERE WRONG

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    !,YOU USE TO THINK IT WAS SO EASY AND TRYING AND TRYING NOW' ' ' ' ',FULL OUT CALHOUN,IT'S OVER

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    !,WAY DOWN THE STREET THERE'S A LOUD IN HIS PLACE,HE'S GOT THAY LOOK,FULL OUT CALHOUN,ALL *** LENSION CRACK WHORE'S SKELETON DOWN TO THE CAUST!!!!!!!!!

  • @MrCourtyC Ohh I have something here for you on rebound before you hit my Calhoun issue on next comment,those Crack Whore's with Cricketed Teeth Blowing with a few LA Star's just right and come Fag's in the Days Inn man aFew good Crack Whore's clear on Joel *****e's check,Blowing me all Night when I was 25 year's old and 26 Leaf's man all ****ing,I was actaully trying to get that Cahloun picked up to Blow me now with Mr **nce touch of course IT'S OVER NOW ALL CLARITIN CLEAR!!!!!!!!

  • @MrCourtyC Are you getting for next season these are the opener's next two comment's down,you know which opener's man.

  • @MrCourtyCNow it's time to talk about Kramer the Vamp and the Game!!!!!!!!,Hey : Cordy and Calli you don't want to get screwed in the tunnel's do you

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  • @MrCourtyC Ohh do not miss the third comment down,THEY SAID JUST LEAVE THAT IT THERE,THAT'S WHERE I HAVE TO LEAVE IT MAN,ESESPECIALLY ON THE PRINCE GUIDE WATCH ALSO GOT TO COVER THE 4TH CORNER NOW

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  • @MrCourtyC uhm I saved you snail,the 4th comment down here uhm the comment wehre I said a Few Good Crack Whore's witht he Cricket Teeth blow me all night with LA Sweetie's ohh when I was 26 two month's after I came back from LA from good old Gorman's,we do not know if he selective Tranny's are there or just some Fag's int he Day's Inn down in N.W. 79th Street,my Uncle Cordy said to put that on the air next season

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  • @MrCourtyC after this I can write all about the Cricket Teeth Crack Whore's in the Day's Inn on N.W.79th Street with a some real Fag's anytime I want.They said to tell you it was the Donald Dolce Sag Dead chest that those Queen's here on Egg Drop world now like being here,those Queen's wanted to suck me GAY!!!! DEAD!!!!,Tarantino word for word:so a Few Good Crack Whore's with a Fierce Joel ******* mix of approval with the uhm real Fag's will say at the Day's Inn Hey : uhm!!!!!!!!

  • @MrCourtyC say didn't Bill Surpee End this with a snap,yea you know Italian Sicilian etc.,ohh those comment's a Few Down!! what I would look like at age 28 if I was still modeling!!!

  • She's looks different

  • @TheDHOBZ no doubt some plastic surgery, but to be honest she looks fantastic!!!!!

  • Her voice is like so, awesome!!

  • OTO fucks GEMMA in a real life???? Holy shit!!! OTO is a KING!

  • OTTO :) sorry

  • Holy crap she's almost 60.

  • is that the ATF bitch Ally Walker? lol

  • What a sexy voice! Leela ftw!

  • Well done katey well done Kurt last of all WELL DONE THE SONS keep them coming .

  • No idea she was married to Sutter. He lucked up on that one by getting her for Gemma. So good in that role. Sometimes I just love to hate her.

  • I hope to God that she's not snubbed for an EMMY this year. Part 1 of the SON finale? She was mesmerizing. What a talent.

  • I love how when she wins, it shows ed o'neill with that massive smile on his face

  • @MsBeeLou I agree totally. Ed O'Neill was obviously so happy and very proud of her because she really is doing a fantastic acting job on Sons of Anarchy--truly commendable performance.

  • @MsBeeLou will fly you in,do you know John I.?time to talk about the Garbage Dump,did all that Egg Drop Soup match

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  • @MrCourtyC Ohh read the next comment,they said im striked becasue I keep bring up ***houn,do you really want to know what it is,that 40 Dollar Crack Whore with Crack Lension's on her face,remember the time I said you would be on Kurt Suuter Frances's Pink Bike like Total Queen if you went over it in your Bundy Days,well it might just be a uhm ohh Skeleton's of her Jewish Holycaust

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    !,^in the Drak of the Night I wish you were by Myside,there going to let me go this time^

  • @MrCourtyC You know what!!!,I just broguht up the Macantousch Lension Crack Whore,will pass onthe John I.,hows that for a Skeleton Jewish Holycaust

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  • @MrCourtyC You know your tickel's,this is the sickiest Wallet Producer Len Wiseman ever seen in is Life!!!!,looks towards the two next comments

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  • @MrCourtyC Now its back to this Gaget you call Wsikey call Kurt Sutter.Ohh Please!!!! I say to myself,you and Junoro Vasquez couldn;t write my notes on Clancy and if I WAS DOING A LIFE SENTENCE WITH ***E'S!!!! AND MY WISKEY CALL!!!! DO NOT BE JUDGE DUD ********!!!! ON ANY OF THESE UHM WE HOPE NOT!!!!

  • I am so happy she won the role of Gemma is fantastic I love the show and I am just real happy for Katey

  • damn she is hot but she did her role as peg so well she actually turned me off when she was peg.

  • Peggy Bundy is still hot as hell!

  • katey is still hot... i love her red hair

  • @zoltron30 haha yeah I kinda miss seeing her with the 80s red, curly hair, even though her acting is amazing on Sons of Anarchy; and she does still look really great.

  • The line in SOA when she says "Its Complicated" about tying up the immigrant, was the best line ever and I told myself she needs to win something for that line alone. Glad she finally did.

  • always remember her as peggy bundy

  • longest walk ever lol

  • My lord, she is beautiful.

  • shit seats much?

  • This song rules too.

  • @deadmetrix I agree. I could watch it just for the song.

  • She deserves so much to receive this award and deserve more! Successful actress invests all her heart and you can see it! Wonderful actress

    Katey sagal i love you! :)

  • TV actors (the talented ones especially) shouldn't get such shitty seats. For fuck sake, Jennifer Lopez got a better seat.

  • Hands down the BEST show on television. She's a badass bitch that LOVES her kid. And speaking of her kid. Charlie Hunnam is DELICIOUS. That is the finest man alive, so how she pulls off the mommy love vibe when I'd be fighting to not shove my tongue down his throat makes her worthy of an Oscar in my book. ;)

  • tomgshe does NOT look liek leela

  • Katey won this award, I'm certain, against the wishes of many of the Hollywood elites who run these junk-shows. Kurt Sutter, her husband, is a brilliant creator of fiction. Anyone who has ever watched Sons of Anarchy knows just how hard he works to ensure the world appears real. The actors and acting are top notch. It is a fantastic show. It's quite ironic that a show about outlaw bikers is in fact a show that Hollywood seems to have outlawed.

  • @craniak716 it truly is one of the best shows ever!

  • love mwc funny as hell but son of anarchy wat the hell is that?

  • why they make her sit so far lol

  • The origin of MILF

  • @nyamcz in the they told me all the second's on all my Cordy Dean *******'s I beat Mike,they said I beat Mike Marcellino IT'S OVER

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    !,Marge Murphy word for word she walks past her Husband's Den on Privacy:GET THAT JUDGE DUD ******* AND HER GANGSTER'S OUT OF OUR HOUSE'S!!!!

  • @MrCourtyC Excuse me?

  • @nyamcz a hint of my notes again,here we go AAAAHHHHAAHHAAHHAAHHAA,OHH MAN LAUGH'S OER LAUGH'S,FIND THOSE MAN FIND THOSE IF YOU HAVE A GOLDEN TICKET

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  • @MrCourtyC You know my Dad said to put a Rangatang on your Back Kurt Sutter Frances,you would really have to know him if your really in my casting Mr. Frances

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  • @MrCourtyC Did you think im going to write that Wallet after you Guys do not Exist on Malaborro's from Nascar and Golf on our mind games here at muah House,well those Cracker's will Hound you for Life,just leave you on tickel's don't look at Wikipedia to much you might Drown in Tekelia.Ohh the Wallet as theQueen's rammaed the Green Ball Player Calli ****** sideways round and round upside down.match!! ok ok WEE!!! ALL THOSE CRACKER'S MOVED TO ***TURY COUNTY WITH THOSE WIN'S

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  • @MrCourtyC Alright thtis is a serious Sink BoyCott here, I know you do not miss my comments uhm what I want to say is I did the Judge ***** past Skeleton Crack Whore thrw her Skull grabbed on some Artwork here uhm mmm.Now Grandad said he did some reasearch ohh he's on my Green Jacket also along with uhm Mark Martin Kyle Busch,should I bring up uhm Koleski "what a Dud that ADA is still following me around" clear on Pyschic's on the SIlver Silician's,uhm also Uncle and I arean't Dupes.

  • @MrCourtyC are you Guy's getting for next season POOF,YOU GUY'S HAVE ALL OF NOTHING!!!!,ALL OF NOTHING!!!!

  • Awesome win. She deserved this. Bout time the GG and Emmys starts recognizing the show as a whole more often. Can't wait to see her performance this season.

  • AL BUNDY AND PEGUY >>>> all !

  • Katey Sagal = Hottest GILF on TV right now.

  • Turanga Leela wins a Golden Globe!

  • Could they have seated her any farther away???

  • "Al! Al look honey, I won!"

    Al looks at her and cringes, "Can we cook it?"

  • Me fascina Katey desde "Married with children". Qué bueno que por fin se le reconoce su magnífico trabajo. Imperdonable lo del Emmy...

  • @MrWaddefak yeah its her

  • Leela? is that you?

  • i hate it when the music starts playing trying to interrupt their speeches, they sure wouldn't do that to Al Pacino !

  • You go girl!

  • WHY DARREN CRISS IS EVERYWHERE?

  • KATEY SAGAL WAS SMOKING HOT IN SONS OF ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I LOVE YOU LEELA

  • 57 and still slammin'

  • 1:33 - chris nolan giving her the once-over!

  • PEG: (Peg enters the house) - Hi Al, did you miss me?

    AL: (Leanin back on his sofa) - Every bullet so far. (APPLAUSE)

  • its leeeeelaaaaa omg she sounds omg her voice it sounds just like her voice on futurama

  • her voice is sexy

  • Leeeeela ^_^

  • I love her, she looks amazing! A true woman, I wish my future-wife will look like that!

  • wow, her husband is the guy whos eyes got rigged!!! THATS WASSUP!!!

  • haha...pause it at 1:13 and "try to" spot out the always lovly Katey Sagal

  • would have been so funny if she said My husband Ted Bundy

  • realy they had to mention Peggy?

  • @ChrisGabe63 Some will mention Peggy to embarrass her, but to many Americans, she is loved in that role. You can see in Ed O'Neill's expression that she is loved in the role of Peggy forever.

  • thats fd up shes all the way at the back

  • She deserved it, she's amazing, beautiful and a good actress! KATEY I LOVE YOU XD

  • I can't explain my happiness over this! Her acting in the "Sons" is truly unbelievable! She is a beautiful, gifted, actress & singer. Love her. Kudos to her hubby for choosing her to play "Gemma"!

  • Katey Sagal is so pretty

  • LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELA

  • damn I never knew that the married with children mum was the the voice of Leela! :O

  • Katey Sagal is so good. Fuck yeah!!!

  • Katey is AWESOME! Sons Of Anarchy is AWESOME! NUFF SAID!

  • Haha, weird to see her sitting at a table with Agent Stahl.

  • Amazing actress and awesome show!!! SOA RULES the planet...

    ML/L/H&R 110%

  • CAPT. TURANGA LEELA! :)

  • INAPROPRIATE CLEAVAGE !!!!!

  • @deegan45 AHAHAHAH. lets get this guys comment to the top!!!!

  • ed o'neill needs to be a recurring character in SOA, i don't care as what, atf, biker etc. and have scenes with gemma

  • "AAAAAAAAAAAAL! I won a trophy! Let's have sex!"

    "Peg, honey, I have my own trophy to make." *stands up, grabs newspaper, walks away*

    *applause*

  • @kuriosity89 he means hes gonna taker a shit

  • FINALLY! After 3 nominations for Married with children, she deserved this...long overdue. She is amazing. Love her in Futurama too!!

  • No thank yous to Ed O'Neill? :/

  • Peggy Bundy :)

  • Why is Darren Criss sitting back there and not at the Glee table? And he stood up for Katey Sagal? Is there a connection?

  • She is sooooooo sexy

  • I'd love her to be my mom

  • 1:18 omfg kenneth!

  • Holy shit that was a long walk huh

  • Katey totally deserved it! So glad to see her finally hetting recognized! And I loved Julie's reaction before anouncing her name, so cute!

  • Omg i'm so used to her being Peggy Bundy from Married with Children that she looks so different without red hair.

  • @ZaideProductions her hair's still red.

  • Man, Peg is still hot! Why didn't Al want to have sex with her?

  • Why did they have her sitting so far back? She is sooo good on SOA and she deserved this award.

  • @ebelingb FX sold their table to HBO since just Katey was up for an award and no other FX show was nominated and no other SOA Peeps were going so they got moved to the back nice huh

  • She's SO amazing on Sons and I'm so thrilled she finally got the award she deserved at least a year ago. Also she looked so beautiful at the ceremony. Go Katey

  • Go Katey. It's about time someone new wins. She deserved it.

  • I can't believe she still looks hot after all these years!

  • Love that they showed Ed O'Neill. Did they really have to put her that far back though?