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  • According to the bible dictionary LORD -, Jehovah, LORD, Gen.15;4; Ps. 7., 100. Adonai, LORD, Christ, The LORD, Our LORD, Supreme ruler, and not the Saxon dignitary. Saxon are pagans.

  • God will chastise and correct you not torment you in fire forever.

  • If there is a real literate hell, even a bucket of water would evaporate before even reaching three fourth the way across the chasm so you know what will happen to a drop of water. There would be no kind of conversation while you are burning by flames.

  • I think really knowing God n having the Holy Ghost really helps one to see the truth of God's word. No one knows more than the author of the book. 1 Corinthians 2:10-14. says it well. Everybody has to believe what they will. At the last breath of our life, we will be there to see what is the real truth. I'm not worrying. I'm not mad at u for what u believe. U have a right to what u believe. Just remember, we talking about eternity. U can't talk it back once u get there. Study hard about it.

  • I think everything really making sense if you pay real close attention to what is being taught.That should open some eyes up a little bit.

  • In other parables, Jesus didn't use names, but this one he used real names. Many have died n went there, God allowing them to come back to tell the truth. I rather believe n live a saved life than to just say i don't believe n end up in there. I love the Lord Jesus, so to me it don't matter. I'm on my way to heaven when he comes. If people don't want to believe in hell, then that's on them. I'm not mad at u. U have a right to believe what u want. Have u received the Holy Spirit yet? Acts 2:38.

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  • you miss interpret the word hell . in hebrew it is "sheoll " or something like that (correct me if i'm wrong please) who means shadow / sleep/ rest and more. Hell as we see it in west countries is badly interprated due to doctrines and religions. Anyway your film is intresting and have some good points.

  • THANKS for UPLOAD !

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  • The Bible does not teach eternal punishment. God's love & mercy endures forever. Does it really endure forever or only in this life? How can it be Good News if it doesn't translate to the afterlife? God will still judge but He will not punish forever. He's a better father than we are, right?

    1 Tim 4:10 This is why we work hard and continue to struggle, for our hope is in the living God, who is the Savior of all people and particularly of all believers.

    whatthehellbook . com

  • @whatthehellbook You must be joking. Jesus and paul stressed that whosoever commits sin is of the devil. Whatever punishment d devil deserves is imputed to them.

    And ofcourse you'll fully agree that d devil deserves a forever punishment. If not for anything, but for leading nd continuing to lead man to sin.

    FACT ACCORDING TO BIBLE: All sinners are devil's children. And if they mistakenly leave this earth without repentance, they're his forever. Thats why its calld eternity

  • @taxmiy So you're saying God created us as children of the devil. Hmmmm

  • @whatthehellbook Nope. God created us but we are children of the devil by nature...that's what His word says. Romans 9 also says that God has mercy on whom He will mercy and hardens whom He will harden. If you don't like that then Paul has already answered you by saying "who are you who answers back to God?"

  • @UniversalismRefuted Wait, so then God messed up when He created us? Remember, He's the One who chose to make us and He made us in His image. Are you really saying the devil now has more control over us than our own Creator?

  • @whatthehellbook Don't like what God's word says? Perhaps you should write your own bible then? The word of God says that men are by nature wicken, enemies of God , objects of wrath and children of the devil. All of your trick questions don't erase what the bible says.

  • @UniversalismRefuted Yeh, i like ur last comment to "whatthehellbook". This doctrine is going rampade. We have to do something about it. If u know how to create vids that xpose them, then pls do so.

    Am new to vid editing, thats why i havent made any. But that doesnt mean the devil can use his agents to toil with me. I'll blast them off with d word of God, sharper than any edged sword. The devil knows d bible so well, and we too should. Else he will just deceive us craftily.

  • @taxmiy Amen friend. They think themselves to be so "benevolent" because they say that "all" will be saved but what more vicious lie could there be? They echo the very words of the devil "surely you won't die..."

  • @UniversalismRefuted How is it a trick question to ask if God made us children of the devil? That is what the two of you are saying, that the almighty God made us to be sinner and children of Satan. That's not only illogical it makes God look like a moron. He's smarter than that and more gracious than you give Him credit for.

  • @whatthehellbook Because you're trying to escape from what His word says. Perhaps it makes the idol that you have carved in your mind look like a "moron" but according to His word He makes vessels of honor and vessels of wrath. Gid is indeed graciuos and He's also just so He will be glorified both in mercy and in judgment and wrath.

  • @whatthehellbook Funny how that "moron" told the pharisees that they were children of the devil (John 8:44) and 1 John 3 says that there are children of God and children of the devil.

    See what happens when your own ideas take the place of God's word?

  • @UniversalismRefuted Your view of God and "justice" is corrupt friend. God is gracious and merciful and He will not eternally punish anyone. That suggests God cannot let go of a wrong. Read the New Testament in the literal language and you will see.

  • @whatthehellbook Yes that's a nice escape but all you did was the usual tap dance and run off. See you are not an expert in the "original languages" and knowing the original languages doesn't make certain passages disappear and others to appear that were not there before. See according to your false teaching, God has forgiven "all men" yet some still get punished? Let's see if you answer this...

  • @UniversalismRefuted Actually I don't dance, never have. And while I do like to run, I didn't run anywhere brother. I'll let Paul sum up my thoughts on who God is:

    1 Timothy 4:10- This is why we work hard and continue to struggle, for our hope is in the living God, who is the Savior of all people and particularly of all believers.

  • @whatthehellbook Yes well we've been around about that passage too and there's questions about your misuse of that verse that you DANCE away from too such as what do verses 1 through 16 in that entire passage have to do with the one you pulled out of context? First I'dlike an answer to my previous question though that you DANCED away from.

  • @UniversalismRefuted If you don't like what the Apostle Paul said, maybe you'd rather hear it from John:

    1 John 2:2- He himself is the sacrifice that atones for our sins—and not only our sins but the sins of all the world.

  • @whatthehellbook I didn't ask you to dance off to another verse that is also ripped oiut of context, I asked to you to deasl with the question I asked you and to deal with the misuse of 1 Tim. 4? Why can't you do that?

  • @whatthehellbook I mean seriously dude, you're like Rainman, you just spout off these verses and then start rambling on with other verses. That's not exegesis.

  • @UniversalismRefuted I'm sorry for "spouting off verses." I'll try not to use the Word of God anymore.

  • @whatthehellbook You are welcomed to use the word of God, I just wish that you'd use it properly.

  • @UniversalismRefuted Right, cause when I quote verses it's ripping them out of context. When you quote them it's proper exegesis and sound doctrine.

  • @whatthehellbook Pretty much. Now can you answer me please?

  • @whatthehellbook Can you please use the word of God and explain why everyone that is supposed to be forgiven still gets punished?

  • @UniversalismRefuted God will judge how He sees fit. Christ paid the price on the Cross for the entire world. There is nothing we can do to earn or deserve it. If we have to believe in Him or He will punish us forever, that is not true love. That is sadistic.

  • @whatthehellbook No in fact Christ did not pay for the "entire world" because the bible never says that He did. I like how you continue to sidestep and tap dance away from thosse questions that expose your fallacies and false doctrine. If everyone is saved (according to you, not the word) then no one can be punished, that is a violation of God's own law.

  • @whatthehellbook The bible is abundantly clear that Christ's sheep are those who believe and it is also clear that His blood is effecatious for those who believe. Have you noticed that Jesus likened salvation to the serpent on the staff (John 3)? Did you also happen to notice that not everyone looked upon the serpent to live? Did you also happen to notice that God did not pile the entire human race into the Ark when He so "unlovingly" flooded the earth?

  • @whatthehellbook You see Jackson, you have a very low and very poor view of God and by your comments and pure ignorance you put Him on trial and judge His actions based not on the whole counsel of His word but on your own man made standard. You are a modern day pharisee and don't even know it. Just like in your book you use yourself as the standard and force God to bvehave "like you would do". You're an idolater.

  • @UniversalismRefuted He has a low view of God because he believes God to be more loving than you do? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Funny how Christians get angry to suggest God might save all but are fine with Him sending the majority of mankind to hell.

  • @lansingchad Well that's nice of you come to Jackson's aid since running away is his super power however it seems that he is always willing to "talk" until the heat get's turned up, then it's time to go. Ya know why? He's an Osterich. He has his head stuck in the sand and doesn't want to face truth. Sorry but your bogus "benevolence" doesn't square with scripture. Go lick his wounds.

  • @UniversalismRefuted I didn't run away. I have a family and a life. I can't get on every other hour to answer your ridiculous questions. We both love God and both have put our faith in Jesus Christ. My mission is not with you friend, it's with sharing the Good News to the lost.

  • @whatthehellbook No, you ran away because you always do even though you find time to make your same false arguments to others who fall for them or have no rebuttal.

    Your mission is from the evil one to lie to lost people and give them false security. How do I know this? Because of the mangling you do to God's word.

  • @whatthehellbook Interesting how you people parade all over YT, all the time arguing with people about Hell until someone actually takes you up on the topic then you all run away because you "don't want to argue" or you "have better things to do". Hypocrites.

  • @UniversalismRefuted Psalm 103:8-10- The Lord is compassionate and merciful, slow to get angry and filled with unfailing love. He will not constantly accuse us, nor remain angry forever. He does not punish us for all our sins; he does not deal harshly with us, as we deserve.

    So, will God remain angry forever or not?

  • @whatthehellbook God is not angry with those who are His. Why do you keep taking verses that are written to believers and applying them to unbelievers?

    How about this...instead of you dancing off and grabbing the next verse, ripped out of context; stick around and deal with the ones that you have been questioned on?

  • @whatthehellbook It's obvious that you have a very inept and haphazzard use of the word of God because when someone asks you to exegete a single passage you think that means "go grab some other verse from somewhere that's in some other context and attatch where needed. You play "Mr.PotatoHead" with the bible.

    If you read vs. 17 of Ps.103 it's clear that God's mercy is for those who fear Him.

  • @UniversalismRefuted I know, I know. When I quote a verse it's out of context. When you quote one it's the Word of God. Be blessed brother.

    1 Timothy 2:3-6- This is good and pleases God our Savior, who wants everyone to be saved and to understand the truth. For there is only one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity—the man Christ Jesus. He gave his life to purchase freedom for everyone. This is the message God gave to the world at just the right time.

  • @whatthehellbook Wow man, you guys really are like Rainman. Before we point out your error with this next verse, why don't you man up and go back to the first one that you ripped out of context and used as a pretext?

  • @whatthehellbook See the first verse that you grossly misused was 1 Tim.4:10 and I asked you to provide exegesis with the entire passage from vs.1 thru 16 and instead of doing that, you like an unreasoning animal, simply ran away and ripped another verse out of context without any explanation of the passage. See Paul didn't just write random thoughts down on parchment and give them to people so why do you read them that way?

  • @whatthehellbook Tell you what...why don't you go ahead and provode some exegesis concerning 1 Tim.2 then since you tucked you tail on the other verses? See exegesis is when you give thought, rationality and explanation concerning the passage in study.

  • @whatthehellbook Yikes!! i just read 4 pages of your guys' comments and that universalism does not behave like a Christian at all.... you shall know them by their fruit right? I've recently started learning about this alternative to "hell" and its looking pretty solid, i read an article by a guy named Marc Speed that explained it pretty good, have you ever heard of him? i don't understand the whole third resurrection thing tho....do you talk about that in your book? Also is your book published?

  • @shockem22 And what "fruit" would that be? Being "nice"? Never saying anything that offends someone? I guess then by your standard that every person on the planet who is "nice" and never says anything that offends others, that they are "christians" too? I have Jackson's book and not only is it a boring read, it's full of contradictions, errors and very poor use of scripture. You'll only believe what your itching ears want to hear anyway.

  • @UniversalismRefuted The fruit of the Spirit friend....love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control...your comments were very insulting, i used to struggle with that to, have you ever heard of anything deliverance? anything by Derek Prince?

  • @shockem22 I use self control all the time. I refrain from calling universalists what they really are.

  • @whatthehellbook Also have you ever seen that 23 minutes in Hell by Bill weiss? The first time i watched it i was thinkin wow there's a hell, and this guy has been there, and he really knows what he's talking about cause he shouts out all those verses to back up what he saw..but i've spent 18 hours looking up every verse he quotes and im half done and THEY'RE ALL WRONG! he takes every single verse out of context or misapplies the whole sheol/hades/ghenna/lake of fire/grave all as hell its nuts

  • @lansingchad See it's not that christians get "angry" because someone suggests that God would save everyone, they get angry when people lie to others and give them a false sense of security and lie about God and His word. Get your facts straight and stop relying on stratwmen like the rest of your ilk.

  • @whatthehellbook I give God credit for being as gracious as He chooses to be because He is not obligated to give grace at all if so desires. It seems that you hold to the Rob Bell/Pelagian view of man that ignores the fall of man in Genesis 3 and God's assesment of man in Gen.6:5

    Thus the reason for your errors 1) high view of man 2) man centered view of God.

  • @whatthehellbook Why are u acting so foolish? Read my comment again.

    Does it say all are children of d devil?

    Let me repeat my last paragraph again: Open your ears/read aloud.

    FACT ACCORDING TO BIBLE: All sinners are devil's children. And if they mistakenly leave this earth without repentance, they're his forever. Thats why its calld eternity.

    John 8 vs 44; 1 John 3 vs 8 - 10.

    Its ur choice to be wise/foolish.

    But d doctrine u hold will makes u unserious with God.

  • @taxmiy Why do you respond with an insult instead of continuing the conversation? God made us sinners, I get it. He created us to be children of the devil. That makes perfect sense.

  • @whatthehellbook Insult? u havent seen any, Victims of hell are so insulted nd assaulted evn as u read.

    Ive said this bfore, nd its just foolish to reply that to u agin. Cause i know u could probably say it again.

    Correction: We were of God, until d devil deceived man.

    Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life

  • @taxmiy Oh so God created us good but the devil is stronger than God and now we belong to him? That would make the devil stronger than God. I don't think so friend.

  • Part one: I can't think of another 'parable' that uses 'unreal' imagery. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Even the 'good soil' parable, although using plants and soil to symbolise people and 'hearts', still has a correspondance that is true of both seeds and people. I still don't understand why Jesus uses imagery that was believed to be true by many people at that time (ie life after death where you are conscious)? Why didn't Jesus 'set' the parable at the resurrection?

  • @CatD66 The pharisees were entrusted with the law and the prophets, which pointed to the Christ, yet they had failed to recognize Jesus as their Messiah. And even if one were to be raised from the dead (which of

    course is exactly what happened -specifically Jesus' friend, Lazarus,and Christ Himself), they would not believe. That is the point of the parable. It is not a description of the afterlife, its a crushing rebuke to an adulterous sect who had embraced pagan myths over inspired truth

  • @etherform66 I accept most of what you say. When Jesus and Lazarus came back from the dead, they had been resurrected and so the symbolism in the parable only goes some way in comparing 'some one from the dead'. You have not addressed my points about Jesus using imagery that has no bearing in reality. All Jesus' other parables are set in real life scenarios. Of course the after life Jesus describes is exaggerated, but the fact Jesus depicts dead people as conscious keeps stumping me.

  • @CatD66 the story of the rich man and Lazarus is a repackaging of a story that is already several

    centuries old at the time of Christ. It comes from Jewish oral traditions dating back to

    the Babylonian captivity, and can be read in the "Gemara Babylonicum." Jesus uses (and modifies) a commonly accepted pagan parable to make His point. Christ is not endorsing the myth, He is simply using it to inject truth into their well established pagan worldview.

  • @etherform66 No, you are wrong. You either read that in some poorly written book or you made it up. Christ was giving an account of an actual event.

  • @UniversalismRefuted an actual event? Who is the first fruit of the ressurection?

  • @etherform66 Yes an actual event. You see Jesus was quoting dialogue from real people, namely Abraham. Now if Abe never said any of those things then that means that Jesus was lying about things that Abe said when he really didn't. So, firstfruits has nothing to do with this.

  • @UniversalismRefuted the fact that Jesus is the firstborn from among the dead has nothing to do with this? Your kidding right? It is one of the central tennants of the Christian faith and because it dosnt fit your theory you toss it out? When you say that a ulcerated sore ridden lazarus is ressurected into immortality before the Lord, you brazenly contradict the Word Of Elohim and a foundational truth of Christianity.

  • @etherform66 Not in the way that you're trying to contort the passage. See it's easy to ;label a passage as "figurative" or that we're not to take it "literal" then people like you can come waltzing in and applt whatever "interpretation" that fits your liking.

  • @etherform66 So no, I don't contradict God's word at all, just you. You don't count.

  • @UniversalismRefuted go waste someone elses time you irritating moron. You cant have it both ways. Christ is either the firstborn from among the dead or He isn't. You cant have Him as the firstborn when it suits your theory and then deny that He is when it becomes inconvenient. You insist that a sore ridden lazarus is the firstfruit of the ressurection and not Christ. If you cant make sense of the obvious what chance have you got in discerning deeper things? Foolish child.

  • @etherform66 We're discussing Jesus account about the rich man and Lazarus in the afterlife. You want to insert your home cooked allegories and now you're pissed because it ain't flying. I understand.

  • @etherform66 See there was a resurrection from the dead in the old testament too. Remeber a guy named Elijah? Yea, he raised a woman's son from the dead. Guess that's a turd in your punch bowl now isn't it?

  • @CatD66 yES, dead people (sinners) are conscious and burning as you read.There is a powerful doctrine of satan that has come up recently, that "Hell- Doctrine of Demons.

    They say God is Love. And interpret the word "Hell" to somewhat.

    Thats just a brief gist. THE DEVIL DESERVES HELL and the bible tells us that THOSE who commit sin are his children. They will join in his rebeliion and purnishment.

    Go to spiritlessons. com

    Read 1 John 3 vs 8 and John 8 vs 44.

    He that have ear should .../

  • @taxmiy Hmmm, I'm still unsure about hell or eternal conscious torment. I've prayed about it lots and I'm going to leave it with God, whose ways are above our ways. If it is God's will that I really feel sure about it one way or another, then that is up to God. For now, I 'lean' towards annihilation. If I'm wrong, then I pray God will show me in His time.

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