FU OBAMA! Transparency??????? Accountability?????? Change???? This is not even a case of more of the same, this is worst than even. WE THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THIS!!!!!!!
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A midnight resignation on a holiday weekend? That sounds like the chopping block to most Independent American voters. The cookie begins to crumble, yes?
Either Mr. Obama resigns or the Demcratic Part wil cooperate to force him from our Oval Office. Election day 2010 approaches and Mr. Obamas' personal problems reflect poorly on Democrats across America
thats ok he already got their vote...so he is cool as of now...and everyone will have to judge him over his 4 year tenure...not his first few hundred days.
President Obama why are there still troops in Iraq? Why are you expanding the war elsewhere? Why are you abandoning the public option? Where is the wall street regulations?
You have done nothing! And you expect us liberals to vote for you next time? You think we voted for you because of YOU? NO! We thought you had liberal/progressive ideas and it is those ideas that we voted for! Not you!
If President Obama believes he can continue on this spineless path of "comprising" with the right meanwhile ignoring his base, the LIBERALS and PROGRESSIVES then when 2012 comes I will vote against him, along with the 12 people I convinced to vote for him.
We will abandon you Mr. President, we have no loyalty to people only to our ideals. The passion I exerted to put you in office will be turned against you in favor of your opponent. Now multiple me by millions.
He comments about "the Presidents plan" often. Can we see this plan? All we have seen so far is HR3200 and things the president says about "his plan" and HR3200 do not match up HR3200 is not his plan or if it is he lies in public about it.
17%-30% Doubtful. This is a capitalist system. If we continue to use it private insurance will regulate costs themselves when rates get to high consumers will stop buying and get a different insurer or not buy at all forcing costs down.
we must have torte reform and interstate competition and problem is solved,what the hell is so hard for these socialist libs to understand, I realize they are kinda slow but they must know that they will all lose their golden jobs, go ahead make our day, we would love a clean house and senate...I think I heard a speech with those word in it,barry,this will the most transparent administration ever. I guess that means we wont see out tax dollars pissed down a drain
If I comment about this video, am I going on a list? Hmmm.
Mr. Bernstein...my Father was an economist...you know nothing about economics...
The only way to drive prices down is markets. We need ALL people into the market. No insurance company can do the shopping...let the people decide, not the government or insurance company. If we have markets, prices will drop...we do NOT have markets in health care at all. Please stick with the facts, not spin.
Yes we can afford it if we stop excessive profiteering by drug companies and other corporate medical industries.
If we take insurance companies out of the health care business except as covered in other policies such as auto and home.
If we enforce strict laws against fraud and abuse of a health care system.
If there are government owned hospitals and certified doctors available to everyone without the need of a mammoth bureaucracy of support and lavish government retirement benefits. etc.
the govt does not have the capability of stopping welfare fraud,medicare,medicaid,food stamps, all of these programs are so deep in fraud ,we could insure everyone without fraud. Much of the fraud is our govt and its officials. This is the worst congress and house in our history,we now have more criminals in this administration than leaders.what a joke. Just keep drinking the koolaid and listening to your supreme messiah.hope you like marxism. voters were duped,big time
I agree 100%; politics is just another name for organized crime but YouTube has a limit to the size of our comments so I didn't get to that one. You should just add to the message and not attack the messenger; I can see how you may misinterpret my comments though. You're one of the few that I won't reciprocate to your thumbs down with my thumbs down. If you hadn't gotten unjustly personal, I would have given you a thumbs up; keep you cool and we can get the message across.
you have to remember the idiot we have for vice president!! duh! the entire administration is a loss and we will be replacing the idiots congress in 2010,they are gone and this president will go down in history as the first black president and the worst, the libs will be lucky if they if they dont lose all of there seats in the house and senate,America has awoken and they are paying attention to this out of control marxist and CZARS, bye odumba and your healthcare is dead,bro
Why does the Vice President need an economist? The Vice Presidents job is to break ties in the Senate. I'll go back and check the Constitution, but I'm pretty damn sure thats his only Constitutionally legal job...
TX Medicaid system only will help me NOW if I get pregnant. To me, I would rather support one person, rather than them and their child they cannot afford. For me to get pregnant would be an act of stupidity/desperation due to lack of health insurance. My severe Narcolepsy with Cataplexy, Fibromyalgia, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Chronic Lymes Disease, and Diabetes, I did NOTHING to contract. Pregnancy, except for cases of Rape/Incest is self-caused. Why only help the pregnant?
new era of socialist rule, Think China,its coming to your neighborhood in the very near future,its that change you can believe in! govt control of all citizens
Did you know that Obamama is back by DSA, Democratic Socialists of America and the "New Party", a Communist Party. So you can see where we are heading for!
Freedom: Yes, but keep spreading the word so that everybody knows. Low life liberals like IndianSettler and RepublicanAss seem to be disturbed by our comments. Keep up the pressure. I think they're beginning to crack when the best they can do is call us a dick and an ass.
IndianLoser: Your lame and sophomoric response only strengthens my resolve. Now that I know that I'm getting under your dirty skin, I will increase my criticisms. I don't even know why I'm wasting time on you anyway. Are you in this country illegally?
If I were you, I'd be commenting on videos about the reason Indian women are so ugly. Short, fat and foul smelliing. No wonder Indian men are so unhappy. Hahahahaha.
In this video, this joker claims that prescription drug rates will be lowered, but in a deal to get Big Pharma to support this boondoggle and run ads for it, the Obama administration has promised not
interfere in drug costs, and not set artificial pricing.
Did you know the Detroit News found a $10,000,000,000 taxpayer funded payout to unions to prop up the United Auto Workers retiree health insurance program. So on top of the $47million uninsured we will have to pay 100%, there will be millions of union workers we will have to pay for as well. The math doesnt add up.
The Massachusetts and Oregon state plans are both going broke now. In Oregon they have a list for medical problems, the higher on the list, the more money for coverage of that particular problem. If your ailment is on the bottom of the list, you are SOL. Imagine how it will be under a federal plan.
Anyone who is confused about the public option and would like some honest information should visit the comment section of my profile. I have lots of resources there including a link to the ez to read version of the bill sent out by congress as well as the long version and so much more.
Stupid comment about Obama's dog. McCain had ten different houses, for crying out loud. Very tired of ignorant comments that have nothing to do with anything relevant.
The average American family spends 18% of its income on healthcare even counting the millions uninsured. At its current rate of inflation, healthcare will cost us 30% in 10 years. We can't afford NOT to reform. Do you really expect Medicare to last if we don't? Social Security, the GI Bill and VA healthcare will go, too, unless something critical is done now. There may be a bunch of rich insurance executives left, but the rest of us will be in a real depression comparable to the 30's
igorvitch, you are right costs are out of control. Why? we misuse insurance and we plan for our health care costs poorly. The employer provider of insurance model is the problem. We need to make insurance portable and we need to allow competition across state lines. There is a program called the Health Savings Account that will bring premiums down. Govt involvement will only make the problem worse.
There is a solution that won't cost a dime. Want more competition? Simply pass a law allowing competition for insurance across state lines. Worried about exclusions? Have consumer disclosures. Worried about being denied based on previous conditions? Allow portability of insurance so that people don't have to get new insurance everytime they change jobs. Educate everyone about the Health Savings Account insurance plan. (I suppose there is no expansion of govt power - so it won't work)
I see no sense whatsoever in stopping contraception. Abortion is another matter about which I've already commented. Unless we can provide good jobs for people and a decent, not extravagant standard of living, why in the world would we want to greatly expand our population? That argument makes no sense to me. Nor does the claim that Medicare worked well when we were producing more kids. I don't even think Medicare was in existence at that time.
The GAO has already said that their analysis of the proposed health care bill will certainly cost more than projected. It also states that the projections of savings are unrealistic, so we can count on this bill costing trillions more. It isn't budget neutral. Jared Bernstein has his facts wrong. This video is propoganda.
We can't employ all people now and are still outsourcing jobs. Wages have stagnated since Clinton left office. Benefits are being cut. Some families right now face the very unChristian choice of dying or going broke when they become very sick. Catholic Hospitals do this country a great, compassionate service, but I doubt they are still staffed largely with nuns under a vow of poverty, so they are also tied to insurance companies, which care far more for profit than patients.
I agree that we can't continue on this path without making some changes. The make-up artist needs a slap, btw, it was hard to stay focused on the issues looking at a war-painted face.
Neither the Republican Party nor the Catholic Church has done anything to actually limit abortions. The Republicans use it as a political wedge issue and do nothing about it (2000-06). Abstinence should be taught but will NEVER prevent sex or unwanted pregnancies among young people. The Catholic Church's stand on contraception is absurd and if it became a law, the number of abortions would actually explode. Sex education and the easy availability of contraceptives are far better answers.
My daughter is an doctor of internal medicine in a large health system in Minneapolis. She makes less than 200 thousand there. There may be specialists that are millionaires, but GP's and internal medicine people make far, far less. In fact, they may see more cuts under reform and there are already many of them getting out of medicine into more lucrative fields. There is a great shortage of these first-line doctors in many areas already.
20 million illegal aliens and they are popping out babies like cockroaches. They ALL are going to get a piece of the government titty - MILK RAN DRY baby!
You cannot have good quality health care when there are 307 million Americans, most of them gluttonous and drug seeking and gun toting. Only 33 million in Canada-which is the size of California. SO yeah they can have national health care. And they are not nearly as violent and gun worshiping like we are
307 million Americans. One out of four obese with heart and lung diseases (due to obesity), diabetes (over half the nation), back problems (chronic pain due to obesity & hospitalization due to pain), and it will cost about a million dollars PER PERSON to treat all. and a gun worshiping society costing billions a year to treat gunshot wounds. 77 million too overweight or obese = 77 TRILLION dollars. Got $77 trillion? How much longer will China loan us money? ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW.
hope he is enjoying his little vacation while the american people are just trying to survive . Gald someone is prospering under his economy. only been on the job for 7 months. wish the American folks could enjoy such an expensive vacation ranging in the thousands. and I never knew anyone to take a vacation just after 7 months on the job.
His Royal Highness Obama had to get a Water dog, because an ordinary poodle from a shelter is too good for him. Just from choice of dog we can tell Obama is an elitist. The male version of Jacquelin Onassis: Mr & Mrs Millionaire.
If your politician doesn't believe, support or reflect these beliefs in their actions (not the little words they say), then they aren't supporting you. More importantly, they aren't supporting, protecting or defending the Constitution and it's time to vote the bums out.
5. I believe the United States of America is the greatest country on earth and therefore will not apologize for policies or actions which have served to free more and feed more people around the world than any other nation on the planet.
4. I believe in the sovereignty and security of our country and therefore will support measures to close our borders except for designated immigration points so we will know who is entering and why and I will vehemently oppose any measure giving another country, the United Nations, or any other entity, power over U.S. citizens
3. I believe more than four decades of U.S. dependence on foreign oil is a travesty therefore I will support an energy plan that calls for immediately increasing usage of all domestic resources including nuclear energy, natural gas, and coal as necessary.
1. I believe in a balanced budget and therefore will vote for a freeze in government spending until that goal is realized.
2. I believe government should not increase the financial burden on its citizenry during difficult economic times therefore I will oppose all tax increases until our economy has rebounded.
The only reason our healthcare expendatures are so high is because of all the fatass bastards that cant take care of themself...Smoking, overeating, etc etc. Goes hand in hand with the poverished and lower-class families in this country. Their problem, not ours.
I beleieve barack H. will have an even harder time of pushing health care reform on to the American people since it has been made known that it includes abortions. If this beast is so great for Americans then why is tax money going to be used to kill American unborn babies? Tell me how compassionate is that? What's to even stop my tax money from being used for sex change operations by the mentally unstable? I'm can make my own decisions on health care and I don't need gov't intervention.
If the public option won't fund abortion then why has 3 attempts to make that very clear in the wording been voted down? The only logical explanation is that the architects intend to fund abortion at a later date. By omitting specific wording that prohibits funding for abortion, you leave the door open for funding. Read the history behind the Hyde amendment. Catholics are paying attention.
JCRF and weather or not a public option funds abortions or as you ridiculously word it "force people to have abortions", doesn't change the fact that abortion and contraception have made funding of a public option impossible. Since there are more people retiring than there are entering the work force due to contraception and abortion cutting our birth numbers and advancements in medicine helping people live longer. A public option is demographically unsustainable.
I believe we have, though I get the sense that some would rather do nothing or obstruct progress.
There are people being denied care, care is being rationed. Emergency hospitals that usually go the the third world are here in the US because working Americans can't get care. What do you think we should do to resolve the current crisis?
If the root of the problem is the lack of people replacing those who are retiring, then the solution is to stop spreading the myth that the world is overpopulated.
Because we are not replacing our numbers, all of our financial systems are collapsing. You don't push for a system that is unsustainable. The price of health care is up because there are more elderly people using than there are people in the work force contributing to it.
So when you say things like "I get the sense that some...". Get off your high horse and come down where the problem is. Because you don't understand the problem at hand you think that we need to throw money at the problem. This problem is much wider than any dollar amount can cross. The problem is with the culture of death that is spreading an overpopulation myth, spreading contraception and aborting humans. No humans, no work force and nobody to contribute to a "public option".
I agree that we need more people in the system. Retirees are a concern. Shifting the cost from uninsured people who use the emergency room to people with insurance also drives up rates. It'd be cheaper if we just put them on a medicare type system. If we really care about life we'll stop Insurance companies from kicking people off the roles for pre-existing conditions. People die from that! The current system is unsustainable. How do you think we should fix it?
If the house is on fire do you worry about cleaning up the grape juice you just spilled on the carpet?
No, you put out the fire. There's no doubt that the current system has problem but the largest problem is the price being driven up due to a lack of contributors and a growing number of users.
What you want is magic. Make a system work that doesn't have enough people to make it work. Are you going to pull people out of retirement, put them back to work, and tax their pay check even higher than it already is? Are you going to legalize illegal aliens and tax them? Are you going to punish U.S. companies for building in other countries because the labor is cheaper?
All you can see is that people are being denied care and someone may have told you that it is because insurance companies are bad and we need socialism. And it sounds like you liked what they said. But you should look at the cause of the problem and then you will be closer to finding a solution then you are now, jumping on board with throwing printed money at the problem.
I've asked you what your solution is and I'm still waiting for an answer. The causes of the problem are many; skyrocketing premiums, predatory insurance that denies care for profit, costly drugs, HMO's, high admin costs etc.
What we need is a safety net for all the working Americans who are slipping through the cracks. That's called compassion! Who would Christ deny care to?
You need to get it through your head that if there are no people contributing to the system then there can be no system. So you can spin the name of Christ all you wan but that doesn't change the fact that this nation disobeyed Christ by contracepting and aborting our children. Medicare worked when we didn't kill our children. Now it doesn't work because we killed the contributors. So don't talk about compassion and Christ when you obviously have a political agenda.
Aren't you the one with the day time call in show. If one of us has an agenda it's not me. I agree that life is precious and we should preserve it at all opportunities. The people who are alive now, who are dying from denied care are just as important. We need to show them the compassion we'd show for all God's children. In this moment you can save lives, do you only want to save one specific life or all?
The USCCB has been pushing for health care for 3 decades. The Catholic Church has 624 hospitals in the united states. The current government is also being lobbied to remove conscience clauses and force those hospitals to preform abortions and prescribe contraceptives. There is a problem that needs to be fixed and your word spinning is just making the solution harder to find.
Please cite your source on these conscience clauses. I'd like to read them. Secondly I've been respectful to you this whole time I'll thank you to show me the same courtesy. We both want something better. The Republicans had all three houses and did nothing for your cause. The Dems can now preserve at least some life. Do their lives mean nothing to you?
The legislators that we elect are supposed to come up with the system. But if they come up with a bad system, it is our duty to point out the flaws. Nobody has done this more clearly than Bishop R. Walker Nickless.
Google search "Bishop R. Walker Nickless DioceseofSiouxCity HEALTH CARE REFORM"
The link should say "Assumption of Mary" It is the bishops address to his diocese.
I believe the Public Option is the best thing to come down the pike in some time. If we don't accept it things will only get worse. I look forward to reading your article and I enjoyed arguing with you. Take care.
Thank you for stating clearly where you stand. Once we fix the birth problem we should probably move towards a public option. Weather or not the government is subverting the principle of subsidiarity by taking control of a public option should be debated. The public option being proposed is infringing on the duty of the public sector. The government can and should curtail abuse but health care should not be a government run program.
I enjoyed the debate as well. I think more Americans should get out and debate like this. It helps us to better articulate our views and then we can clearly see who has the better solution to the problems that come about. Please continue what you are doing on youtube and hopefully you will find the truth you need.
I am not arguing for republicans or democrats. I am arguing as a Catholic.
"The Catholic Church is one of the largest health care providers in the United States. It's therefore a credible voice and a significant player in the debate surrounding health care reform and the many Americans who will be affected by it ."
Catholic Hospitals 624. Catholic hospitals in systems 548. Catholic health systems 60. Single-sponsor hospitals 441.
Medicare worked when we were a nation that respected life. People were being born at a rate that replaced those who were retiring from the work force. If you want to even begin to build a system that works then you have to first fix the birth problem. So long as we contracept and abort the people who are supposed to replace us, no system is going to work. Why can't you see that?
Making a person takes a long time. We can't wait 20 years to solve a problem that is bankrupting us now! Medicare is incredibly more efficient than than the for-profit insurance plans. That means costs would be reduced compared to what we have now. That's a start! We are drowning and can't wait! If we do it'll bankrupt the country. Is that your only solution for the immediate crisis? Make more people? We have to put out the fire and then we can repair the house!
Obama said that Medicare will be bankrupt in 8 years. How is that "efficient"? A system that only has 2% overhead should not be on the verge of bankruptcy. This once again calls attention to the fact that there are not enough people contributing to the system that was started back when we were a pro life nation.
The current system is bankrupting us now and killing people. 8 years will provide us with breathing space to fix it. Even if abortion and contraception were stopped today there would not be enough people to replace the boomers. I'm sorry, the math isn't there. I'm not arguing against ending those things, I'm just saying the math isn't there. Do you have a solution that addresses the immediate crisis?
The solution to the problem is to face the fact that our actions have consequences that only time will fix. Unfortunately people like listening to politicians who promise that they can change the world tomorrow. The fact is that it takes virtue to change the world and not empty words. So you can twist words to make it sound like those who are against a public option are ok with people being denied care and dying but that makes you a very dishonest person. Your words are unjust.
I agree that actions have consequences. The consequence to stopping a plan for the American People would be to permit denied care; death. That would make you complicit. You make the cause of stopping care you get the effect of suffering and death. It's simple causality and you can't make it out to be anything other than what it is.
You put more value in a system than you do the people that the system is supposed to be for. "health care should be apportioned according to need, not ability to pay or to benefit from the care. We reject the rationing of care." Bishop Nickless.
Printing money is an attempt to hide the fact that contraception and abortion have rendered our economy to be unsustainable. The lack of families is what collapsed the housing market. In 1973, the United States had 36 million 3 bedroom housing units, and in 2005 we had 72 million 3 bed housing units. That's a problem when in 2005 we had the same number of families as in 1973. There were not enough people to fill the houses that we built. We Aborted and contracepted the housing market to death.
Nope, there were not enough people who could AFFORD TO BUY a house in 2005. The sky high prices of houses collapsed the housing market. Where do you get your data regarding population? It clashes with census data, so I'd really like to read your data, too.
The total number of 2 parent families with children is the same today as it was when Richard Nixon took office, at 25 million. In 73, the US had 36 million housing units with 3 or more bedrooms, not many more than the number of 2 parent families with childrenwhich means that the supply of family homes was roughly in line with the number of families. By 2005, the number of housing units with 3 or more bedrooms had doubled to 72 million, though we had the same number of 2 parent fam with children
The number of two-parent families with children, the kind of household that requires and can afford a large home, has remained essentially stagnant since 1963, according to the Census Bureau. Between 1963 and 2005, to be sure, the total number of what the Census Bureau categorizes as families grew from 47 million to 77 million. But most of the increase is due to families without children, including what are sometimes rather strangely called "one-person families."
In place of traditional two-parent families with children, America has seen enormous growth in one-parent families and childless families. The number of one-parent families with children has tripled. Dependent children formed half the U.S. population in 1960, and they add up to only 30 percent today. The dependent elderly doubled as a proportion of the population, from 15 percent in 1960 to 30 percent today.
If capital markets derive from the cycle of human life, what happens if the cycle goes wrong? Investors may be unreasonably panicked about the future, and governments can allay this panic by guaranteeing bank deposits, increasing incentives to invest, and so forth. But something different is in play when investors are reasonably panicked. What if there really is something wrong with our futureif the next generation fails to appear in sufficient numbers? The answer is that we get poorer.
The declining demographics of the traditional American family raise a dismal possibility: Perhaps the world is poorer now because the present generation did not bother to rear a new generation. All else is bookkeeping and ultimately trivial. This unwelcome and unprecedented change underlies the present global economic crisis. We are grayer, and less fecund, and as a result we are poorer, and will get poorer stillno matter what economic policies we put in place.
It is no accident that the housing marketthe economic sector most sensitive to demographicswas the epicenter of the economic crisis. In fact, demographers have been predicting a housing crash for years due to the demographics of diminishing demand. Wall Street and Washington merely succeeded in prolonging the housing bubble for a few additional years. The adverse demographics arising from cultural decay, though, portend far graver consequences for the funding of health and retirement systems.
You are not a lawmaker but you can have discussions on the internet that the government can see. Dialogue helps you to find the truth. Deceptive dialogue is very harmful and that is why this video not helping to educate U.S. citizens. It doesn't provide any facts about anything. It is a sales pitch. It is one of many actions which reveal that the government thinks Americans are ignorant and easily fooled. Keep asking questions and if you are persistent, you will find answers.
When you say that women have become more liberated, I don't believe that Susan B. Anthony would view "Girls gone Wild" as being liberated. A higher rate of marital infidelity being a characteristic of liberation. Dressing up women in outfits that reduce their dignity in order to sell Doritos or Hamburgers or Cars or Beer is not a mark of liberation.The word "Feminism" in the united states has been hijacked and affixed to abortion and contraception. But these practices turn women into sex objects
Thanks for your post KrestaIn. I have two grown up daughters and raised them to be independent and have high standards for themselves. As a Christian I agree 100% with you. One of the reasons Christianity spread at its beginning is the respect and dignity it afford women. I am a Pentecostal believer. Women have a long history of being in leadership positions in our Denomination. Our church clerk is a women and one of our retired ministers is a women. Christianity is not hostile to women.
Your witness is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Keep in mind though that just because you said the word "Christianity" there are those who will wright off everything you just shared. For us Christians, we know that God is in charge of nature, that our God knows how to order things in a healthy balanced way. Unfortunately it is becoming clear that we have to hide our Lord behind the word "Nature" if we want the secularists in Washington to listen to us.
We will continue to gather and worship Christ in our communities, but it appears that in this age we need to find different words when engaging others in the public square. At times it is frustrating but it has revealed the fact that our God made a natural law that secularists can't deny even if they want to deny the existence of the Creator of nature. It is clear that nature punishes those who don't respect the act of sex. The voices of the aborted cry louder as the economy falls.
It is clear when you say that "abortion and contraception are here to stay", you have no interest in looking at the problem. There are not enough people being born. That is the root of the problem. Our housing market collapsed because In 1973, the United States had 36 million housing units with three or more bedrooms. By 2005, the number of housing units with three or more bedrooms had doubled to 72 million, though America had the same number of two-parent families with children.
Capitalism/Communism, there are libraries of books on these subjects but that doesn't change the fact that abortion and contraception have destroyed the viability of the U.S. economy. We do not have a healthy birth rate. Our nation is dying. There are more people retiring than entering the work force. The same thing happened to the housing market. Sure we can keep throwing money at this problem but facts are facts. Our money will run out. Money doesn't make people magically appear.
There are 3500 abortions per day. The average cost is $400 per abortion. Abortion is a successful business that is why it is "legal". Are you saying that if abortion was illegal, the U.S. would still see 3500 abortions per day? No. And our nation would have a healthy birth rate again and things like social security would start to be sustainable once more.
"The Social Security Act was signed by FDR on 8/14/35." This was before contraception "liberated" us. 1950s Americans spend an estimated $200 million a year on condoms although anti-birth control laws on the books in thirty states still prohibit or restrict the sale and advertisement of contraceptive devices..
Carl Djerassi created the pill in 1951. It didn't take in the U.S. until 1957 The FDA approves the use of Enovid. And in 1973 Roe v. Wade. Social Security worked when we respected life.
So raise the retirement age to 75 is a proposed solution. Legalize all illegal aliens and tax them is another possible solution. Stop exporting jobs to other countries even though globalization of certain industries is inevitable. But none of this changes the fact that contraception and abortion have not only changed the U.S. demographic but the world demographic. There are not enough people being born to support the number of people retiring.
So you would rather extend retirement for old people instead of recognizing the unnatural sexual behavior that contraception and abortion have introduced into american life style? People living longer is not a problem. What is a problem is a culture that views fertility as a disease and the act of sex as a purely recreational activity. Fertility is natural and so is pregnancy. Contraceptive chemicals don't change the facts of nature. A society that doesn't welcome life quickly disappears.
"The 1983 Social Security Amendments included a provision for raising the full retirement age beginning with people born in 1938 or later. The Congress cited improvements in the health of older people and increases in average life expectancy as primary reasons for increasing the normal retirement age. "
Are we looking for a point when the elderly become overworked or are we just messing with numbers in an attempt to make a failing system work?
Ok. If we walk down that road, what will that mean?
From a government web site.
"Full retirement age (also called "normal retirement age") had been 65 for many years. However, beginning with people born in 1938 or later, that age gradually increases until it reaches 67 for people born after 1959."
So let's say we take your plan and up retirement by 8 years. Start that now or gradually work up to it?
Have you heard the latest, well it's been out there for a little while, but it's seems that the "o" man has hired a Diversity Czar" for the FCC to help the "fairness" of the Airwaves, which means taxing private "News Talk" radio stations 100% of their operating cost, and then the money will go to "Public" radio.. And Mark Lloyd is the man.. and his model for his doctrine is the Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, who pulled 34 radio stations off the air. ?v=ysqsa_TeLys
None of this video addresses the demographic fact that we do not have enough people replacing those who are entering retirement. There are more elderly people than young people. Good medicine has caused people to live longer and contraception and abortion have caused fewer people to be born. Medical abortion alone has eliminated 50 million people. Were 50 million women raped who "needed" access to abortion? No, we played God and nature kicked our butt. Let's fix the real problem now.
After someone says "Yes we can" you would expect them to follow by saying how we are going to. But not in DC double talk. First he starts the commoners head spinning with a double negative "We can't afford not to". Then he says 1:04 Obama found 180billion. Obama lowers drug prices. Obama makes it cheaper to go to hospital. And then 1:48 look the other way, schools, libraries, jobs. Maybe 2:26 is an actual substantive answer. Nope same sales pitch that doesn't explain anything. Answer us!
President Obama, by his insistence on a national health care plan, and comparing the dynamics of such an institution to that of the USPS, has shined a spot light on the fact that our nation has caused an unnatural demographic shift. The USPS is in the red again this year. One of the reasons cited is because of a $5.6 billion payment to a health benefit fund for RETIREES. There are more people retiring than there are entering the work force. Contraception and Abortion have caused this.
ALL of the Administration From White House to Congress and beyond are heading into Socialism Marxist Communistic Governance and they want to call all who oppose this what they are.. Brownshirts, Well it takes Brownshirts to make this move in America.
WE the PEOPLE whom YOU work for do not want this,BUT I guess whit the 9 Trillion defect You are too broke to pay attention to what WE are saying.. WELL VOTE 2010 WE will see ALL of YOU out of office.
Contraception and abortion, along with real advancements in medical procedures have changed our nation's demographic. People are living longer because of medical advancements. These people are retired or retiring. They are leaving the work force. At the same time contraception programs and abortion have significantly reduced the number of people entering the work force. Because of this change we have made a national health care option financially impossible to sustain.
wow .. I made some very important comments, stating We the taxpayers will foot this health care bill for decades to come.. and the White house deleted it ... can you say censorship ?? no fowl language was said , just sound constitutional and historical facts and it was deleted... this posting is socialist propaganda ..
Where the hell did they find you? You call yourself an economist? I got my degree in economics at a real university. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (its even part of the government!) estimates that this will cost an extra Trillion dollars. Maybe he's practicing Rubinomics like Clinton did when he tricked us into thinking we had a balanced budget by stealing hundreds of billions from the off-balance sheet Social Security Trust fund.
It seems you're having the problem with arithmetic.
Where is this fantasy land the conservatives made up and fear where the government is run by and represents the lower classes. I want to move there. The fact is the government is bought, paid for, owned, and operated by the 1% wealthy who control this country. That's why healthcare has been private for decades, and why we have the worst health record of any developed nation. Healthy , independent , and intelligent citizenry are feared, and that's why we've been poor and stupid for decades.
it's about like Obam to hire another ding dong. The country is broke, the country can't afford fuel for airforce one, but yet obama keeps borrowing and stealing tax payer money to fly all around the world and all around the country. Obamas bill for that alone will take 2 years to pay off. But yet this ding dong thinks we can afford 2 trillion to get socialized health care started.
He was hire only because his dumb ass is willing to go alone with anything Obama says.
Many car dealers had to hold off taking in the use cars because they were having trouble getting paid.
A hospital can only carry so much debt. If payments are slow they must slow down treatment to the pace. If it took 4 months to get no profits for a cancer treatment. Then you should expect to wait 4 months prior to being treated. Good luck.
you know what the government fears , healthy , independent , intelligent citizenry , they can't manipulate a populace such as that . they will try to dictate your healthcare because they know you can't take control of it yourself .
you gave them the opening to absorb more of your incompetence .
our fear of pain, our obsession with vanity ( i'm guilty ), our idea of what we think is normal is their weapon . take back your own lives and spurn HC unless it's absolutely necessary . JV
I'm not surprised that you managed to somehow pull Israel into a discussion about American healthcare. During the 1930s, this Jew-Hatred came from the political right. Nowadays it comes almost entirely from the political left. By the way, do you also think we'd get a handle on global warming if it weren't for the Jews--er--I mean, Zionists?
Every thing said is correct. Just not enough time to show the math in the video . Most people probably would not be able to follow it anyway . I really think a public option is the best way to go. The health care industry in the past like with the Medicare drug benefit has just lobby their way to shaft the consumer. The government cannot even use it's market power to get old folks a decent deal. Without a public option more of the same is going to happen.
Are you an economist? Would you care to show me the math because the Congressional Budget Office estimates that Obama's proposed healthcare reform with cost at least an extra trillion dollars.
I am an economist and I know the things he mentioned won't even come close to offsetting additional costs; they're just going to a drop in the bucket compared to the hundreds of billions we're going to try to beg from China to fund this. And China is currently REDUCING the amount of US bonds they hold!
bobjman we spend about 6000 dollars a year on each person for health care each year. The next closest nation spends about 3000 dollars a year, other nations less some far less. Lets see, there is about 300 million people in this country. 300 million times 3000 dollars is what? 9 times 10 to 11power or 900 billion a year wasted. As an economist you should see what a bad allocation of resources this is. I didn't vote for Obama but he is right the waste alone will pay for this program.
At least this video doesn't take up time trying to convince me how "misinformed I am" like a certain president we all know. If he would spend more air time informing us then maybe we wouldn't be so "misinformed". The Dems have a great talking point that they keep bringing up first. "You don't understand". You've been misinformed. And yet there is very little time spent trying to inform. Or even worse, calling concerned people Nazis or health care drones.
Monopolies and big government work "hand in glove". This whole public option thing is a complete scam. That is why the arguement is always set up as a false choice between "only" two choices.
EX: Either we leave the monopolistic financial / insurance industry the way it is, or we take more tax dollars to create a government monopoly, capable of competing with the monopolies you just bailed out. The tax payer is forced to fund both sides of the "competition". Wall street wins either way.
@dlucas90 - You are absolutely right . Business LOVES govt subsidy. It is money income that they do not have to compete for because the govt is one payer. When you have millions of people that can CHOOSE where they want to spend their money, companies compete for it. It amazes me that Obama admin. portrays choice when simple legislation would give people more choice. Like being able to by out of state policies. This has nothing to do with healthcare, its a power grab.
I agree that business loves govt. subsidy, but I would go one step further and ask "why have health insurance at all"? Why not just have catastrophic insurance and leave the payments between me and the Dr. of my choice? The only reason the medical industry charges so much is because they are charging a "slush fund" instead of an individual, just like govt. subsidies. If nothing else it would cut out a parasitic middle man. Times are getting tough, time to cut out the middle man.
We cant Afford NOT to fix this problem??? wrong.. we being who? Us the taxpayers is who.. Stop giving health care to illegal immigrants.. # Billions of dollars of uncompensated care has resulted in the closure of hundreds of emergency departments in America, which is reducing capacity and threatening everyone's access to lifesaving care. change policy, but do NOT nationalize health care. it will Ruin this great country.
In 2001 the FBI considered Marxism a terrorist offense. Tell everyone you know that president is a marxist and he has committed treason. I don't care what side of the isle you think you're on. Stand with the American people if you care about your children and family. Research eugenics, research marxism and communism. Quit watching TV as if it were your god. Research your own beliefs. Are those really your beliefs are you just repeating what the TV told you?
My Great Great Grandfather was president Benjamin Harrison, His presidential administration is best known for its economic legislation, including the McKinley Tariff of 1890 that set the average ad valor em tariff rate for imports to the United States at 48.4%, and protected American manufacturing. what has happened to this country since then? nothing but a sellout presidency other then Kennedy. this system needs a total purge.
And when Obama force-fed the stimulus down America's throat, there was extreme push-back from Congress, which wanted the entire "buy American" clause taken out because it would anger countries with which the US has trade agreements.
Never studied Harrison before, but I certainly appreciate his trade policy.
Thank you, and additionally Harrison added the Sherman Antitrust Act which was the first United States Federal statute to limit cartels and monopolies. It falls under antitrust law.
I don't understand how the U.S. government plans to spread the cost of a national health care system and ensure that "everyone has quality affordable healthcare". That line sounds good off the tongue until you get into the facts. Medical advancements are causing people to live longer into retirement. Contraception and Abortion destroyed the U.S. work force. There are not enough citizens entering the work force to sustain the elderly who now need care. Abortion has put us in a tight spot.
The United States should not penalize people for living longer. We should be proud of our life extending advancements in medicine. A socialized system would discourage these advancements because it would drive up cost. We need to face the fact that playing God, contracepting and aborting our people because of a false cry of "overpopulation" has finally caught up with us. Let's start working on the real problem and stop calling people liars, Nazis and health care drones.
I disagree. We are not "short on population" in the least. We don't have jobs though. Most of our jobs are now in other countries. We don't manufacture much of anything in this country anymore. What little we do, most people cannot find in stores. This is not a government issue as much as it is consumer issue.
Don't mince words Frankie. "Short on Population" is your faulty wording. Our population is growing because people are living longer due to great advancements in medicine. But that doesn't change the fact that there are not enough people being born and entering the work force to replace the number of those retiring. We are short on a replacement population. We are walking the way of the Greek and Roman civilizations. People who are ignorant of history, repeat it.
You have a good point about jobs moving over seas. But that would have to be a problem that is resolved before any talk of a nationalized health care program. Wouldn't you agree.
And when you say "consumer issue" are you talking about inventive ways to hide the amount the government taxes the consumer in order to fund national health care? Like a soda tax? Make the cost of living higher and harder so people are more gager to end life? Funding national health care will reduce quality of life.
No I'm talking about American consumers supporting American workers by purchasing American made products and boycotting those companies who have shifted all of our work outside this country. The cost of paying American workers is always higher, regardless of taxes, because there are protections in place so that they cannot be worked unfairly. Yeah, the cost of your underwear is going to be a little higher if it's sewn by someone in the U.S.A. rather than by someone in Mexico.
We could legalize and tax all illegal aliens in order to get the eminent disaster ball rolling. Since the the plan needs people, well you're right, we do have the people and what's the difference between a legal and illegal alien anyway? A prefix? One is il?
Face the facts. The government plan is unsustainable. The demographic shift is the main cause but the job situation is definitely a contributing factor. How do we cultivate jobs in the world of globalization that we live?
The huffington post mentions that in 2008 the USPS had had to pay out a $5.6 billion payment to a health benefit fund for retirees. And the facts come up again, contraception and abortion have caused an unnatural reduction of people going into the work force and shouldering the burden of health care. Health care costs go up because there are fewer people paying into them and more people utilizing them. Government solution? Rationing? Deny people with handicaps? Penalty for living over 80?
Wow, not only did the USPS end 2.8 BILLION in the red last year, but the year before that it was 5.1 BILLION in the red.
So because Obama spoke without thinking and compared a Nationalized system to the USPS competing with Fedex and UPS, should we be worried that the LARGEST U.S. government project in history is being compared to a smaller failing government project?
We are not ignorant "Nazis" who are just trying to cause trouble. We are paying attention. Listen to us!
The GOP is just going to sabotage progress at every turn. They care much more about cheap political victories than the welfare of the American people.
sometimes something bad just needs to happen for stupid people to understand thats all ignorance is a very deadly problem >>
xemmas 1 year ago
FU OBAMA! Transparency??????? Accountability?????? Change???? This is not even a case of more of the same, this is worst than even. WE THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THIS!!!!!!!
MentallyJuiced 1 year ago
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underbird 2 years ago
What the fuck is a middle class task force???
cdavis567 2 years ago
Rasmussen Poll of Likely Voters:
Strongly Approve: 28%
Strongly Disapprove: 41%
Total Approval: 48%
Total Disapproval: 51%
A midnight resignation on a holiday weekend? That sounds like the chopping block to most Independent American voters. The cookie begins to crumble, yes?
Either Mr. Obama resigns or the Demcratic Part wil cooperate to force him from our Oval Office. Election day 2010 approaches and Mr. Obamas' personal problems reflect poorly on Democrats across America
newdebate 2 years ago
Presidential Approval Index: -11
Van Jones fired at midnight? That won't help. Mr. Obama, please resign.
newdebate 2 years ago
1. Van Jones resigned, he wasn't fired.
2. He will be replaced by somebody with the same agenda who just hasn't said as many stupid things. So, you've accomplished essentially nothing.
3. Obama approval rating is still above 50% according to Gallup.
4. Resign? Sorry, he was elected by a majority of the voters, and hasn't done anything wrong. Man up and stop being such a pathetic SORE LOSER.
TrollBuster9090 2 years ago
Presidential Approval among Likely Voters:
Strongly Approve: 29%
Strongly Disapprove: 38%
Total Approval: 49%
Total DIsapproval: 51%
Americas' Independent voters don't want to hear Mr. Obamas' voice anymore.
newdebate 2 years ago
thats ok he already got their vote...so he is cool as of now...and everyone will have to judge him over his 4 year tenure...not his first few hundred days.
Product1999 2 years ago
Cont. for below:
President Obama why are there still troops in Iraq? Why are you expanding the war elsewhere? Why are you abandoning the public option? Where is the wall street regulations?
You have done nothing! And you expect us liberals to vote for you next time? You think we voted for you because of YOU? NO! We thought you had liberal/progressive ideas and it is those ideas that we voted for! Not you!
gumbomombo 2 years ago
If President Obama believes he can continue on this spineless path of "comprising" with the right meanwhile ignoring his base, the LIBERALS and PROGRESSIVES then when 2012 comes I will vote against him, along with the 12 people I convinced to vote for him.
We will abandon you Mr. President, we have no loyalty to people only to our ideals. The passion I exerted to put you in office will be turned against you in favor of your opponent. Now multiple me by millions.
gumbomombo 2 years ago
Huh--Bernstein. eh?
wow, with a name like that, knock me over with a feather...
infoblitzkrieg 2 years ago
He comments about "the Presidents plan" often. Can we see this plan? All we have seen so far is HR3200 and things the president says about "his plan" and HR3200 do not match up HR3200 is not his plan or if it is he lies in public about it.
17%-30% Doubtful. This is a capitalist system. If we continue to use it private insurance will regulate costs themselves when rates get to high consumers will stop buying and get a different insurer or not buy at all forcing costs down.
snotsndribble 2 years ago
we must have torte reform and interstate competition and problem is solved,what the hell is so hard for these socialist libs to understand, I realize they are kinda slow but they must know that they will all lose their golden jobs, go ahead make our day, we would love a clean house and senate...I think I heard a speech with those word in it,barry,this will the most transparent administration ever. I guess that means we wont see out tax dollars pissed down a drain
ajack50 2 years ago
If I comment about this video, am I going on a list? Hmmm.
Mr. Bernstein...my Father was an economist...you know nothing about economics...
The only way to drive prices down is markets. We need ALL people into the market. No insurance company can do the shopping...let the people decide, not the government or insurance company. If we have markets, prices will drop...we do NOT have markets in health care at all. Please stick with the facts, not spin.
seaplaneguy1 2 years ago 2
Yes we can afford it if we stop excessive profiteering by drug companies and other corporate medical industries.
If we take insurance companies out of the health care business except as covered in other policies such as auto and home.
If we enforce strict laws against fraud and abuse of a health care system.
If there are government owned hospitals and certified doctors available to everyone without the need of a mammoth bureaucracy of support and lavish government retirement benefits. etc.
MsWanderer1 2 years ago
the govt does not have the capability of stopping welfare fraud,medicare,medicaid,food stamps, all of these programs are so deep in fraud ,we could insure everyone without fraud. Much of the fraud is our govt and its officials. This is the worst congress and house in our history,we now have more criminals in this administration than leaders.what a joke. Just keep drinking the koolaid and listening to your supreme messiah.hope you like marxism. voters were duped,big time
ajack50 2 years ago
ajack50;
I agree 100%; politics is just another name for organized crime but YouTube has a limit to the size of our comments so I didn't get to that one. You should just add to the message and not attack the messenger; I can see how you may misinterpret my comments though. You're one of the few that I won't reciprocate to your thumbs down with my thumbs down. If you hadn't gotten unjustly personal, I would have given you a thumbs up; keep you cool and we can get the message across.
MsWanderer1 2 years ago
you have to remember the idiot we have for vice president!! duh! the entire administration is a loss and we will be replacing the idiots congress in 2010,they are gone and this president will go down in history as the first black president and the worst, the libs will be lucky if they if they dont lose all of there seats in the house and senate,America has awoken and they are paying attention to this out of control marxist and CZARS, bye odumba and your healthcare is dead,bro
ajack50 2 years ago
Why does the Vice President need an economist? The Vice Presidents job is to break ties in the Senate. I'll go back and check the Constitution, but I'm pretty damn sure thats his only Constitutionally legal job...
HELLDOGGER 2 years ago
TX Medicaid system only will help me NOW if I get pregnant. To me, I would rather support one person, rather than them and their child they cannot afford. For me to get pregnant would be an act of stupidity/desperation due to lack of health insurance. My severe Narcolepsy with Cataplexy, Fibromyalgia, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Chronic Lymes Disease, and Diabetes, I did NOTHING to contract. Pregnancy, except for cases of Rape/Incest is self-caused. Why only help the pregnant?
discuscatcher 2 years ago
Fear to the Unknown????
Why, some people is so afraid of change?
Is it human Nature?
Do you feel good putting down others?
One thing. I do believe. We live in a new era now.
Like it or not.
gavalladares 2 years ago
new era of socialist rule, Think China,its coming to your neighborhood in the very near future,its that change you can believe in! govt control of all citizens
ajack50 2 years ago
stop the lies!!!!!!!!!!!!! we don't have the maney to pay for this!!!! George Soros is making sure of that!!!!!!
realistpainter 2 years ago
Did you know that Obamama is back by DSA, Democratic Socialists of America and the "New Party", a Communist Party. So you can see where we are heading for!
Freedomgeorge1776 2 years ago
Freedomgeorge1776, What does your bragging have to do with economy you cancer infected dick.
RepublicanAssOnFire 2 years ago
Freedom: Yes, but keep spreading the word so that everybody knows. Low life liberals like IndianSettler and RepublicanAss seem to be disturbed by our comments. Keep up the pressure. I think they're beginning to crack when the best they can do is call us a dick and an ass.
MrEmesis 2 years ago
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What a pile of shit. Did anybody notice that he didn't provide any details? The only thing he got right was at 0:02. His name.
MrEmesis 2 years ago
If you need more details you go to White House and eat his shit, do you want to do that Emesis? No? Then keep your mouth shut you fuckin blowjob.
IndianSettler 2 years ago
IndianLoser: Your lame and sophomoric response only strengthens my resolve. Now that I know that I'm getting under your dirty skin, I will increase my criticisms. I don't even know why I'm wasting time on you anyway. Are you in this country illegally?
If I were you, I'd be commenting on videos about the reason Indian women are so ugly. Short, fat and foul smelliing. No wonder Indian men are so unhappy. Hahahahaha.
MrEmesis 2 years ago
Man you are the one who seems looser and desperate to make things better... I am not.. haha
IndianSettler 2 years ago
Indian: Another convincing argument from a 6th grader, I mean liberal. How can I debate such an intelligent exchange as the one you've started.
MrEmesis 2 years ago
what detail u need you ass of pachycephalosaurus?
RepublicanAssOnFire 2 years ago
In this video, this joker claims that prescription drug rates will be lowered, but in a deal to get Big Pharma to support this boondoggle and run ads for it, the Obama administration has promised not
interfere in drug costs, and not set artificial pricing.
Paulsur 2 years ago
Did you know the Detroit News found a $10,000,000,000 taxpayer funded payout to unions to prop up the United Auto Workers retiree health insurance program. So on top of the $47million uninsured we will have to pay 100%, there will be millions of union workers we will have to pay for as well. The math doesnt add up.
Paulsur 2 years ago
The Massachusetts and Oregon state plans are both going broke now. In Oregon they have a list for medical problems, the higher on the list, the more money for coverage of that particular problem. If your ailment is on the bottom of the list, you are SOL. Imagine how it will be under a federal plan.
Paulsur 2 years ago
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Anyone who is confused about the public option and would like some honest information should visit the comment section of my profile. I have lots of resources there including a link to the ez to read version of the bill sent out by congress as well as the long version and so much more.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
Where's the birth certificate Barry Soetoro?
BeantownJim 2 years ago
Stupid comment about Obama's dog. McCain had ten different houses, for crying out loud. Very tired of ignorant comments that have nothing to do with anything relevant.
igorvitch 2 years ago
thank you Jared Bernstein, this was enlightening.
itsmu 2 years ago
The average American family spends 18% of its income on healthcare even counting the millions uninsured. At its current rate of inflation, healthcare will cost us 30% in 10 years. We can't afford NOT to reform. Do you really expect Medicare to last if we don't? Social Security, the GI Bill and VA healthcare will go, too, unless something critical is done now. There may be a bunch of rich insurance executives left, but the rest of us will be in a real depression comparable to the 30's
igorvitch 2 years ago 2
igorvitch, you are right costs are out of control. Why? we misuse insurance and we plan for our health care costs poorly. The employer provider of insurance model is the problem. We need to make insurance portable and we need to allow competition across state lines. There is a program called the Health Savings Account that will bring premiums down. Govt involvement will only make the problem worse.
psalmtree 2 years ago
There is a solution that won't cost a dime. Want more competition? Simply pass a law allowing competition for insurance across state lines. Worried about exclusions? Have consumer disclosures. Worried about being denied based on previous conditions? Allow portability of insurance so that people don't have to get new insurance everytime they change jobs. Educate everyone about the Health Savings Account insurance plan. (I suppose there is no expansion of govt power - so it won't work)
psalmtree 2 years ago
I see no sense whatsoever in stopping contraception. Abortion is another matter about which I've already commented. Unless we can provide good jobs for people and a decent, not extravagant standard of living, why in the world would we want to greatly expand our population? That argument makes no sense to me. Nor does the claim that Medicare worked well when we were producing more kids. I don't even think Medicare was in existence at that time.
igorvitch 2 years ago
The GAO has already said that their analysis of the proposed health care bill will certainly cost more than projected. It also states that the projections of savings are unrealistic, so we can count on this bill costing trillions more. It isn't budget neutral. Jared Bernstein has his facts wrong. This video is propoganda.
psalmtree 2 years ago
We can't employ all people now and are still outsourcing jobs. Wages have stagnated since Clinton left office. Benefits are being cut. Some families right now face the very unChristian choice of dying or going broke when they become very sick. Catholic Hospitals do this country a great, compassionate service, but I doubt they are still staffed largely with nuns under a vow of poverty, so they are also tied to insurance companies, which care far more for profit than patients.
igorvitch 2 years ago
I agree that we can't continue on this path without making some changes. The make-up artist needs a slap, btw, it was hard to stay focused on the issues looking at a war-painted face.
mmariebored 2 years ago
Neither the Republican Party nor the Catholic Church has done anything to actually limit abortions. The Republicans use it as a political wedge issue and do nothing about it (2000-06). Abstinence should be taught but will NEVER prevent sex or unwanted pregnancies among young people. The Catholic Church's stand on contraception is absurd and if it became a law, the number of abortions would actually explode. Sex education and the easy availability of contraceptives are far better answers.
igorvitch 2 years ago
7. Kick ALL lobbyists out of Washington. It's not freedom of speech; it's bribery. Would pay for healthcare alone.
8. Protect lives of those religiously compelled but let others
die in peace when terminally ill. 40% of Medicare goes to last 30 days of people's lives.
9. No more non-competitive government contracts such as to Haliburton that cost billions in tax payer monies .
10. Give tax breaks to companies who do not outsource and tax those that do heavily.
igorvitch 2 years ago
How to pay for healthcare reform:
1. Cut needless tax cuts for wealthiest
2. Tax wealthiest more than current rate (BUffet, 17.5%. Tax at the same rate as those socialists Reagan (41%) and Eisenhower (91%)
3. Close all offshore tax havens
4. Shut off corporate loopholes
5. Tax CEOs making more than 500 thousand at bailout companies at 91%.
6. Get out Iraq yesterday.
7. Kick ALL lobbyists out of Washington. It's not freedom of speech; it's bribery. Would pay for healthcare alone.
igorvitch 2 years ago
My daughter is an doctor of internal medicine in a large health system in Minneapolis. She makes less than 200 thousand there. There may be specialists that are millionaires, but GP's and internal medicine people make far, far less. In fact, they may see more cuts under reform and there are already many of them getting out of medicine into more lucrative fields. There is a great shortage of these first-line doctors in many areas already.
igorvitch 2 years ago
20 million illegal aliens and they are popping out babies like cockroaches. They ALL are going to get a piece of the government titty - MILK RAN DRY baby!
WinterHaven 2 years ago
You cannot have good quality health care when there are 307 million Americans, most of them gluttonous and drug seeking and gun toting. Only 33 million in Canada-which is the size of California. SO yeah they can have national health care. And they are not nearly as violent and gun worshiping like we are
WinterHaven 2 years ago
307 million Americans. One out of four obese with heart and lung diseases (due to obesity), diabetes (over half the nation), back problems (chronic pain due to obesity & hospitalization due to pain), and it will cost about a million dollars PER PERSON to treat all. and a gun worshiping society costing billions a year to treat gunshot wounds. 77 million too overweight or obese = 77 TRILLION dollars. Got $77 trillion? How much longer will China loan us money? ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
and it s Jews like you that give the rest of us a bad name
RestrainedNoMore 2 years ago
president obama doesn't pay for shit! WE DO
hope he is enjoying his little vacation while the american people are just trying to survive . Gald someone is prospering under his economy. only been on the job for 7 months. wish the American folks could enjoy such an expensive vacation ranging in the thousands. and I never knew anyone to take a vacation just after 7 months on the job.
and he's in touch with the people? yeah, right.
RestrainedNoMore 2 years ago
His Royal Highness Obama had to get a Water dog, because an ordinary poodle from a shelter is too good for him. Just from choice of dog we can tell Obama is an elitist. The male version of Jacquelin Onassis: Mr & Mrs Millionaire.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
o h shut up
RestrainedNoMore 2 years ago
If your politician doesn't believe, support or reflect these beliefs in their actions (not the little words they say), then they aren't supporting you. More importantly, they aren't supporting, protecting or defending the Constitution and it's time to vote the bums out.
Freedomgeorge1776 2 years ago
5. I believe the United States of America is the greatest country on earth and therefore will not apologize for policies or actions which have served to free more and feed more people around the world than any other nation on the planet.
Freedomgeorge1776 2 years ago
4. I believe in the sovereignty and security of our country and therefore will support measures to close our borders except for designated immigration points so we will know who is entering and why and I will vehemently oppose any measure giving another country, the United Nations, or any other entity, power over U.S. citizens
Freedomgeorge1776 2 years ago
3. I believe more than four decades of U.S. dependence on foreign oil is a travesty therefore I will support an energy plan that calls for immediately increasing usage of all domestic resources including nuclear energy, natural gas, and coal as necessary.
Freedomgeorge1776 2 years ago
Dear Mr. Politician, yes or no:
1. I believe in a balanced budget and therefore will vote for a freeze in government spending until that goal is realized.
2. I believe government should not increase the financial burden on its citizenry during difficult economic times therefore I will oppose all tax increases until our economy has rebounded.
Freedomgeorge1776 2 years ago
Lies...
Canada and GB have both tried this. FAIL
The only reason our healthcare expendatures are so high is because of all the fatass bastards that cant take care of themself...Smoking, overeating, etc etc. Goes hand in hand with the poverished and lower-class families in this country. Their problem, not ours.
speeddemon38 2 years ago
lies lies lies lies and more lies
RoyalDemonforChrist 2 years ago
I beleieve barack H. will have an even harder time of pushing health care reform on to the American people since it has been made known that it includes abortions. If this beast is so great for Americans then why is tax money going to be used to kill American unborn babies? Tell me how compassionate is that? What's to even stop my tax money from being used for sex change operations by the mentally unstable? I'm can make my own decisions on health care and I don't need gov't intervention.
TaxPayersMoney839 2 years ago
It wont force people to have abortions.
JCRF 2 years ago
it will pay for them though.
RoyalDemonforChrist 2 years ago
Do you know what the Hyde amendment is?
If the public option won't fund abortion then why has 3 attempts to make that very clear in the wording been voted down? The only logical explanation is that the architects intend to fund abortion at a later date. By omitting specific wording that prohibits funding for abortion, you leave the door open for funding. Read the history behind the Hyde amendment. Catholics are paying attention.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
JCRF and weather or not a public option funds abortions or as you ridiculously word it "force people to have abortions", doesn't change the fact that abortion and contraception have made funding of a public option impossible. Since there are more people retiring than there are entering the work force due to contraception and abortion cutting our birth numbers and advancements in medicine helping people live longer. A public option is demographically unsustainable.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
The current crisis is unsustainable. What is your solution?
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
The first step is to recognize the problem. Have we as a nation taken that first step yet?
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
I believe we have, though I get the sense that some would rather do nothing or obstruct progress.
There are people being denied care, care is being rationed. Emergency hospitals that usually go the the third world are here in the US because working Americans can't get care. What do you think we should do to resolve the current crisis?
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
If the root of the problem is the lack of people replacing those who are retiring, then the solution is to stop spreading the myth that the world is overpopulated.
Because we are not replacing our numbers, all of our financial systems are collapsing. You don't push for a system that is unsustainable. The price of health care is up because there are more elderly people using than there are people in the work force contributing to it.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
So when you say things like "I get the sense that some...". Get off your high horse and come down where the problem is. Because you don't understand the problem at hand you think that we need to throw money at the problem. This problem is much wider than any dollar amount can cross. The problem is with the culture of death that is spreading an overpopulation myth, spreading contraception and aborting humans. No humans, no work force and nobody to contribute to a "public option".
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
I agree that we need more people in the system. Retirees are a concern. Shifting the cost from uninsured people who use the emergency room to people with insurance also drives up rates. It'd be cheaper if we just put them on a medicare type system. If we really care about life we'll stop Insurance companies from kicking people off the roles for pre-existing conditions. People die from that! The current system is unsustainable. How do you think we should fix it?
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
If the house is on fire do you worry about cleaning up the grape juice you just spilled on the carpet?
No, you put out the fire. There's no doubt that the current system has problem but the largest problem is the price being driven up due to a lack of contributors and a growing number of users.
Put out the fire.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
MrPlaid
What you want is magic. Make a system work that doesn't have enough people to make it work. Are you going to pull people out of retirement, put them back to work, and tax their pay check even higher than it already is? Are you going to legalize illegal aliens and tax them? Are you going to punish U.S. companies for building in other countries because the labor is cheaper?
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
All you can see is that people are being denied care and someone may have told you that it is because insurance companies are bad and we need socialism. And it sounds like you liked what they said. But you should look at the cause of the problem and then you will be closer to finding a solution then you are now, jumping on board with throwing printed money at the problem.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
I've asked you what your solution is and I'm still waiting for an answer. The causes of the problem are many; skyrocketing premiums, predatory insurance that denies care for profit, costly drugs, HMO's, high admin costs etc.
What we need is a safety net for all the working Americans who are slipping through the cracks. That's called compassion! Who would Christ deny care to?
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
MrPlaid
You need to get it through your head that if there are no people contributing to the system then there can be no system. So you can spin the name of Christ all you wan but that doesn't change the fact that this nation disobeyed Christ by contracepting and aborting our children. Medicare worked when we didn't kill our children. Now it doesn't work because we killed the contributors. So don't talk about compassion and Christ when you obviously have a political agenda.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Aren't you the one with the day time call in show. If one of us has an agenda it's not me. I agree that life is precious and we should preserve it at all opportunities. The people who are alive now, who are dying from denied care are just as important. We need to show them the compassion we'd show for all God's children. In this moment you can save lives, do you only want to save one specific life or all?
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
Who said that the people who are denied care are not important?
That's a dirty bit of word smithing you are doing now.
"do you only want to save one specific life or all? " Read again what you just said.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
The USCCB has been pushing for health care for 3 decades. The Catholic Church has 624 hospitals in the united states. The current government is also being lobbied to remove conscience clauses and force those hospitals to preform abortions and prescribe contraceptives. There is a problem that needs to be fixed and your word spinning is just making the solution harder to find.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Please cite your source on these conscience clauses. I'd like to read them. Secondly I've been respectful to you this whole time I'll thank you to show me the same courtesy. We both want something better. The Republicans had all three houses and did nothing for your cause. The Dems can now preserve at least some life. Do their lives mean nothing to you?
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
The legislators that we elect are supposed to come up with the system. But if they come up with a bad system, it is our duty to point out the flaws. Nobody has done this more clearly than Bishop R. Walker Nickless.
Google search "Bishop R. Walker Nickless DioceseofSiouxCity HEALTH CARE REFORM"
The link should say "Assumption of Mary" It is the bishops address to his diocese.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
I believe the Public Option is the best thing to come down the pike in some time. If we don't accept it things will only get worse. I look forward to reading your article and I enjoyed arguing with you. Take care.
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
Thank you for stating clearly where you stand. Once we fix the birth problem we should probably move towards a public option. Weather or not the government is subverting the principle of subsidiarity by taking control of a public option should be debated. The public option being proposed is infringing on the duty of the public sector. The government can and should curtail abuse but health care should not be a government run program.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
MrPlaid
I enjoyed the debate as well. I think more Americans should get out and debate like this. It helps us to better articulate our views and then we can clearly see who has the better solution to the problems that come about. Please continue what you are doing on youtube and hopefully you will find the truth you need.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
I am not arguing for republicans or democrats. I am arguing as a Catholic.
"The Catholic Church is one of the largest health care providers in the United States. It's therefore a credible voice and a significant player in the debate surrounding health care reform and the many Americans who will be affected by it ."
Catholic Hospitals 624. Catholic hospitals in systems 548. Catholic health systems 60. Single-sponsor hospitals 441.
Just Google search the quote and find more facts.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
MrPlaid
Medicare worked when we were a nation that respected life. People were being born at a rate that replaced those who were retiring from the work force. If you want to even begin to build a system that works then you have to first fix the birth problem. So long as we contracept and abort the people who are supposed to replace us, no system is going to work. Why can't you see that?
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Making a person takes a long time. We can't wait 20 years to solve a problem that is bankrupting us now! Medicare is incredibly more efficient than than the for-profit insurance plans. That means costs would be reduced compared to what we have now. That's a start! We are drowning and can't wait! If we do it'll bankrupt the country. Is that your only solution for the immediate crisis? Make more people? We have to put out the fire and then we can repair the house!
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
Obama said that Medicare will be bankrupt in 8 years. How is that "efficient"? A system that only has 2% overhead should not be on the verge of bankruptcy. This once again calls attention to the fact that there are not enough people contributing to the system that was started back when we were a pro life nation.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
The current system is bankrupting us now and killing people. 8 years will provide us with breathing space to fix it. Even if abortion and contraception were stopped today there would not be enough people to replace the boomers. I'm sorry, the math isn't there. I'm not arguing against ending those things, I'm just saying the math isn't there. Do you have a solution that addresses the immediate crisis?
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
By math you mean people right?
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
The solution to the problem is to face the fact that our actions have consequences that only time will fix. Unfortunately people like listening to politicians who promise that they can change the world tomorrow. The fact is that it takes virtue to change the world and not empty words. So you can twist words to make it sound like those who are against a public option are ok with people being denied care and dying but that makes you a very dishonest person. Your words are unjust.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
I agree that actions have consequences. The consequence to stopping a plan for the American People would be to permit denied care; death. That would make you complicit. You make the cause of stopping care you get the effect of suffering and death. It's simple causality and you can't make it out to be anything other than what it is.
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
You put more value in a system than you do the people that the system is supposed to be for. "health care should be apportioned according to need, not ability to pay or to benefit from the care. We reject the rationing of care." Bishop Nickless.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Printing money is an attempt to hide the fact that contraception and abortion have rendered our economy to be unsustainable. The lack of families is what collapsed the housing market. In 1973, the United States had 36 million 3 bedroom housing units, and in 2005 we had 72 million 3 bed housing units. That's a problem when in 2005 we had the same number of families as in 1973. There were not enough people to fill the houses that we built. We Aborted and contracepted the housing market to death.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Nope, there were not enough people who could AFFORD TO BUY a house in 2005. The sky high prices of houses collapsed the housing market. Where do you get your data regarding population? It clashes with census data, so I'd really like to read your data, too.
FrankieFrankenmeiste 2 years ago
An article from First things Magazine titled "Demographics & Depression"
By David P. Goldman The article is taking numbers from the Census Bureau.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
The total number of 2 parent families with children is the same today as it was when Richard Nixon took office, at 25 million. In 73, the US had 36 million housing units with 3 or more bedrooms, not many more than the number of 2 parent families with childrenwhich means that the supply of family homes was roughly in line with the number of families. By 2005, the number of housing units with 3 or more bedrooms had doubled to 72 million, though we had the same number of 2 parent fam with children
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
The number of two-parent families with children, the kind of household that requires and can afford a large home, has remained essentially stagnant since 1963, according to the Census Bureau. Between 1963 and 2005, to be sure, the total number of what the Census Bureau categorizes as families grew from 47 million to 77 million. But most of the increase is due to families without children, including what are sometimes rather strangely called "one-person families."
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
In place of traditional two-parent families with children, America has seen enormous growth in one-parent families and childless families. The number of one-parent families with children has tripled. Dependent children formed half the U.S. population in 1960, and they add up to only 30 percent today. The dependent elderly doubled as a proportion of the population, from 15 percent in 1960 to 30 percent today.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
If capital markets derive from the cycle of human life, what happens if the cycle goes wrong? Investors may be unreasonably panicked about the future, and governments can allay this panic by guaranteeing bank deposits, increasing incentives to invest, and so forth. But something different is in play when investors are reasonably panicked. What if there really is something wrong with our futureif the next generation fails to appear in sufficient numbers? The answer is that we get poorer.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
The declining demographics of the traditional American family raise a dismal possibility: Perhaps the world is poorer now because the present generation did not bother to rear a new generation. All else is bookkeeping and ultimately trivial. This unwelcome and unprecedented change underlies the present global economic crisis. We are grayer, and less fecund, and as a result we are poorer, and will get poorer stillno matter what economic policies we put in place.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
It is no accident that the housing marketthe economic sector most sensitive to demographicswas the epicenter of the economic crisis. In fact, demographers have been predicting a housing crash for years due to the demographics of diminishing demand. Wall Street and Washington merely succeeded in prolonging the housing bubble for a few additional years. The adverse demographics arising from cultural decay, though, portend far graver consequences for the funding of health and retirement systems.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
You are not a lawmaker but you can have discussions on the internet that the government can see. Dialogue helps you to find the truth. Deceptive dialogue is very harmful and that is why this video not helping to educate U.S. citizens. It doesn't provide any facts about anything. It is a sales pitch. It is one of many actions which reveal that the government thinks Americans are ignorant and easily fooled. Keep asking questions and if you are persistent, you will find answers.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
When you say that women have become more liberated, I don't believe that Susan B. Anthony would view "Girls gone Wild" as being liberated. A higher rate of marital infidelity being a characteristic of liberation. Dressing up women in outfits that reduce their dignity in order to sell Doritos or Hamburgers or Cars or Beer is not a mark of liberation.The word "Feminism" in the united states has been hijacked and affixed to abortion and contraception. But these practices turn women into sex objects
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Thanks for your post KrestaIn. I have two grown up daughters and raised them to be independent and have high standards for themselves. As a Christian I agree 100% with you. One of the reasons Christianity spread at its beginning is the respect and dignity it afford women. I am a Pentecostal believer. Women have a long history of being in leadership positions in our Denomination. Our church clerk is a women and one of our retired ministers is a women. Christianity is not hostile to women.
floridagrandpa 2 years ago
Your witness is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Keep in mind though that just because you said the word "Christianity" there are those who will wright off everything you just shared. For us Christians, we know that God is in charge of nature, that our God knows how to order things in a healthy balanced way. Unfortunately it is becoming clear that we have to hide our Lord behind the word "Nature" if we want the secularists in Washington to listen to us.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
We will continue to gather and worship Christ in our communities, but it appears that in this age we need to find different words when engaging others in the public square. At times it is frustrating but it has revealed the fact that our God made a natural law that secularists can't deny even if they want to deny the existence of the Creator of nature. It is clear that nature punishes those who don't respect the act of sex. The voices of the aborted cry louder as the economy falls.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
It is clear when you say that "abortion and contraception are here to stay", you have no interest in looking at the problem. There are not enough people being born. That is the root of the problem. Our housing market collapsed because In 1973, the United States had 36 million housing units with three or more bedrooms. By 2005, the number of housing units with three or more bedrooms had doubled to 72 million, though America had the same number of two-parent families with children.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Capitalism/Communism, there are libraries of books on these subjects but that doesn't change the fact that abortion and contraception have destroyed the viability of the U.S. economy. We do not have a healthy birth rate. Our nation is dying. There are more people retiring than entering the work force. The same thing happened to the housing market. Sure we can keep throwing money at this problem but facts are facts. Our money will run out. Money doesn't make people magically appear.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
There are 3500 abortions per day. The average cost is $400 per abortion. Abortion is a successful business that is why it is "legal". Are you saying that if abortion was illegal, the U.S. would still see 3500 abortions per day? No. And our nation would have a healthy birth rate again and things like social security would start to be sustainable once more.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
"The Social Security Act was signed by FDR on 8/14/35." This was before contraception "liberated" us. 1950s Americans spend an estimated $200 million a year on condoms although anti-birth control laws on the books in thirty states still prohibit or restrict the sale and advertisement of contraceptive devices..
Carl Djerassi created the pill in 1951. It didn't take in the U.S. until 1957 The FDA approves the use of Enovid. And in 1973 Roe v. Wade. Social Security worked when we respected life.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
So raise the retirement age to 75 is a proposed solution. Legalize all illegal aliens and tax them is another possible solution. Stop exporting jobs to other countries even though globalization of certain industries is inevitable. But none of this changes the fact that contraception and abortion have not only changed the U.S. demographic but the world demographic. There are not enough people being born to support the number of people retiring.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
So you would rather extend retirement for old people instead of recognizing the unnatural sexual behavior that contraception and abortion have introduced into american life style? People living longer is not a problem. What is a problem is a culture that views fertility as a disease and the act of sex as a purely recreational activity. Fertility is natural and so is pregnancy. Contraceptive chemicals don't change the facts of nature. A society that doesn't welcome life quickly disappears.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Lukachicago
again from a gov web site.
"The 1983 Social Security Amendments included a provision for raising the full retirement age beginning with people born in 1938 or later. The Congress cited improvements in the health of older people and increases in average life expectancy as primary reasons for increasing the normal retirement age. "
Are we looking for a point when the elderly become overworked or are we just messing with numbers in an attempt to make a failing system work?
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Ok. If we walk down that road, what will that mean?
From a government web site.
"Full retirement age (also called "normal retirement age") had been 65 for many years. However, beginning with people born in 1938 or later, that age gradually increases until it reaches 67 for people born after 1959."
So let's say we take your plan and up retirement by 8 years. Start that now or gradually work up to it?
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Have you heard the latest, well it's been out there for a little while, but it's seems that the "o" man has hired a Diversity Czar" for the FCC to help the "fairness" of the Airwaves, which means taxing private "News Talk" radio stations 100% of their operating cost, and then the money will go to "Public" radio.. And Mark Lloyd is the man.. and his model for his doctrine is the Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, who pulled 34 radio stations off the air. ?v=ysqsa_TeLys
Freedomgeorge1776 2 years ago
Another dual-citizenship Jew. Not surprising.
o7levi 2 years ago
None of this video addresses the demographic fact that we do not have enough people replacing those who are entering retirement. There are more elderly people than young people. Good medicine has caused people to live longer and contraception and abortion have caused fewer people to be born. Medical abortion alone has eliminated 50 million people. Were 50 million women raped who "needed" access to abortion? No, we played God and nature kicked our butt. Let's fix the real problem now.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
0:15
After someone says "Yes we can" you would expect them to follow by saying how we are going to. But not in DC double talk. First he starts the commoners head spinning with a double negative "We can't afford not to". Then he says 1:04 Obama found 180billion. Obama lowers drug prices. Obama makes it cheaper to go to hospital. And then 1:48 look the other way, schools, libraries, jobs. Maybe 2:26 is an actual substantive answer. Nope same sales pitch that doesn't explain anything. Answer us!
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
President Obama, by his insistence on a national health care plan, and comparing the dynamics of such an institution to that of the USPS, has shined a spot light on the fact that our nation has caused an unnatural demographic shift. The USPS is in the red again this year. One of the reasons cited is because of a $5.6 billion payment to a health benefit fund for RETIREES. There are more people retiring than there are entering the work force. Contraception and Abortion have caused this.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
ALL of the Administration From White House to Congress and beyond are heading into Socialism Marxist Communistic Governance and they want to call all who oppose this what they are.. Brownshirts, Well it takes Brownshirts to make this move in America.
WE the PEOPLE whom YOU work for do not want this,BUT I guess whit the 9 Trillion defect You are too broke to pay attention to what WE are saying.. WELL VOTE 2010 WE will see ALL of YOU out of office.
changethechange 2 years ago
Contraception and abortion, along with real advancements in medical procedures have changed our nation's demographic. People are living longer because of medical advancements. These people are retired or retiring. They are leaving the work force. At the same time contraception programs and abortion have significantly reduced the number of people entering the work force. Because of this change we have made a national health care option financially impossible to sustain.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
wow .. I made some very important comments, stating We the taxpayers will foot this health care bill for decades to come.. and the White house deleted it ... can you say censorship ?? no fowl language was said , just sound constitutional and historical facts and it was deleted... this posting is socialist propaganda ..
Burster1 2 years ago 2
Where the hell did they find you? You call yourself an economist? I got my degree in economics at a real university. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (its even part of the government!) estimates that this will cost an extra Trillion dollars. Maybe he's practicing Rubinomics like Clinton did when he tricked us into thinking we had a balanced budget by stealing hundreds of billions from the off-balance sheet Social Security Trust fund.
It seems you're having the problem with arithmetic.
bobjman 2 years ago
Keep Fighting For The Public Option!!!!!
TheWayISeeIt1982 2 years ago
Where is this fantasy land the conservatives made up and fear where the government is run by and represents the lower classes. I want to move there. The fact is the government is bought, paid for, owned, and operated by the 1% wealthy who control this country. That's why healthcare has been private for decades, and why we have the worst health record of any developed nation. Healthy , independent , and intelligent citizenry are feared, and that's why we've been poor and stupid for decades.
brosephjames 2 years ago
it's about like Obam to hire another ding dong. The country is broke, the country can't afford fuel for airforce one, but yet obama keeps borrowing and stealing tax payer money to fly all around the world and all around the country. Obamas bill for that alone will take 2 years to pay off. But yet this ding dong thinks we can afford 2 trillion to get socialized health care started.
He was hire only because his dumb ass is willing to go alone with anything Obama says.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
Many car dealers had to hold off taking in the use cars because they were having trouble getting paid.
A hospital can only carry so much debt. If payments are slow they must slow down treatment to the pace. If it took 4 months to get no profits for a cancer treatment. Then you should expect to wait 4 months prior to being treated. Good luck.
dogcrapgreen 2 years ago
Be careful what you wish for statists. If this health care stuff passes the dollar will implode sooner than otherwise.
JesseKantstopolis 2 years ago
you know what the government fears , healthy , independent , intelligent citizenry , they can't manipulate a populace such as that . they will try to dictate your healthcare because they know you can't take control of it yourself .
you gave them the opening to absorb more of your incompetence .
our fear of pain, our obsession with vanity ( i'm guilty ), our idea of what we think is normal is their weapon . take back your own lives and spurn HC unless it's absolutely necessary . JV
jvforever72 2 years ago
A government option will destroy health care. I pray this terrible bill is defeated.
dgw16 2 years ago
We can cut the funding to the israel people and use it for the American people... for starters.
RedSkirtPinup 2 years ago 6
I'm not surprised that you managed to somehow pull Israel into a discussion about American healthcare. During the 1930s, this Jew-Hatred came from the political right. Nowadays it comes almost entirely from the political left. By the way, do you also think we'd get a handle on global warming if it weren't for the Jews--er--I mean, Zionists?
dgw16 2 years ago
Every thing said is correct. Just not enough time to show the math in the video . Most people probably would not be able to follow it anyway . I really think a public option is the best way to go. The health care industry in the past like with the Medicare drug benefit has just lobby their way to shaft the consumer. The government cannot even use it's market power to get old folks a decent deal. Without a public option more of the same is going to happen.
floridagrandpa 2 years ago
Are you an economist? Would you care to show me the math because the Congressional Budget Office estimates that Obama's proposed healthcare reform with cost at least an extra trillion dollars.
I am an economist and I know the things he mentioned won't even come close to offsetting additional costs; they're just going to a drop in the bucket compared to the hundreds of billions we're going to try to beg from China to fund this. And China is currently REDUCING the amount of US bonds they hold!
bobjman 2 years ago
bobjman we spend about 6000 dollars a year on each person for health care each year. The next closest nation spends about 3000 dollars a year, other nations less some far less. Lets see, there is about 300 million people in this country. 300 million times 3000 dollars is what? 9 times 10 to 11power or 900 billion a year wasted. As an economist you should see what a bad allocation of resources this is. I didn't vote for Obama but he is right the waste alone will pay for this program.
floridagrandpa 2 years ago
Excellent and good points. Thank you.
JayPhilosopher 2 years ago
Why won't you be my friend? I'm heart broken. For the first time when I reached out through You Tube. My invitation of friendship was decline. :(
I think I'm going to cry.
dogcrapgreen 2 years ago
Obama is a Marxist, and can't be
trusted.
Check his background.
He appoints avowed communists as
czars. why?
tailspin37 2 years ago
At least this video doesn't take up time trying to convince me how "misinformed I am" like a certain president we all know. If he would spend more air time informing us then maybe we wouldn't be so "misinformed". The Dems have a great talking point that they keep bringing up first. "You don't understand". You've been misinformed. And yet there is very little time spent trying to inform. Or even worse, calling concerned people Nazis or health care drones.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Monopolies and big government work "hand in glove". This whole public option thing is a complete scam. That is why the arguement is always set up as a false choice between "only" two choices.
EX: Either we leave the monopolistic financial / insurance industry the way it is, or we take more tax dollars to create a government monopoly, capable of competing with the monopolies you just bailed out. The tax payer is forced to fund both sides of the "competition". Wall street wins either way.
dlucas90 2 years ago 2
@dlucas90 - You are absolutely right . Business LOVES govt subsidy. It is money income that they do not have to compete for because the govt is one payer. When you have millions of people that can CHOOSE where they want to spend their money, companies compete for it. It amazes me that Obama admin. portrays choice when simple legislation would give people more choice. Like being able to by out of state policies. This has nothing to do with healthcare, its a power grab.
Zoklor 2 years ago
I agree that business loves govt. subsidy, but I would go one step further and ask "why have health insurance at all"? Why not just have catastrophic insurance and leave the payments between me and the Dr. of my choice? The only reason the medical industry charges so much is because they are charging a "slush fund" instead of an individual, just like govt. subsidies. If nothing else it would cut out a parasitic middle man. Times are getting tough, time to cut out the middle man.
dlucas90 2 years ago 2
Reality Check: you work for us, we don't want it.
208975 2 years ago 5
208975 .. Good point
I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.
- Thomas Jefferson
Burster1 2 years ago 3
We cant Afford NOT to fix this problem??? wrong.. we being who? Us the taxpayers is who.. Stop giving health care to illegal immigrants.. # Billions of dollars of uncompensated care has resulted in the closure of hundreds of emergency departments in America, which is reducing capacity and threatening everyone's access to lifesaving care. change policy, but do NOT nationalize health care. it will Ruin this great country.
Burster1 2 years ago
GTFO REFORM FAILS.
HotSauce1902 2 years ago
In 2001 the FBI considered Marxism a terrorist offense. Tell everyone you know that president is a marxist and he has committed treason. I don't care what side of the isle you think you're on. Stand with the American people if you care about your children and family. Research eugenics, research marxism and communism. Quit watching TV as if it were your god. Research your own beliefs. Are those really your beliefs are you just repeating what the TV told you?
EwakAmerica 2 years ago
My Great Great Grandfather was president Benjamin Harrison, His presidential administration is best known for its economic legislation, including the McKinley Tariff of 1890 that set the average ad valor em tariff rate for imports to the United States at 48.4%, and protected American manufacturing. what has happened to this country since then? nothing but a sellout presidency other then Kennedy. this system needs a total purge.
Burster1 2 years ago
And when Obama force-fed the stimulus down America's throat, there was extreme push-back from Congress, which wanted the entire "buy American" clause taken out because it would anger countries with which the US has trade agreements.
Never studied Harrison before, but I certainly appreciate his trade policy.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
Thank you, and additionally Harrison added the Sherman Antitrust Act which was the first United States Federal statute to limit cartels and monopolies. It falls under antitrust law.
Burster1 2 years ago
I don't understand how the U.S. government plans to spread the cost of a national health care system and ensure that "everyone has quality affordable healthcare". That line sounds good off the tongue until you get into the facts. Medical advancements are causing people to live longer into retirement. Contraception and Abortion destroyed the U.S. work force. There are not enough citizens entering the work force to sustain the elderly who now need care. Abortion has put us in a tight spot.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
The United States should not penalize people for living longer. We should be proud of our life extending advancements in medicine. A socialized system would discourage these advancements because it would drive up cost. We need to face the fact that playing God, contracepting and aborting our people because of a false cry of "overpopulation" has finally caught up with us. Let's start working on the real problem and stop calling people liars, Nazis and health care drones.
We aren't all ignorant!
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
I disagree. We are not "short on population" in the least. We don't have jobs though. Most of our jobs are now in other countries. We don't manufacture much of anything in this country anymore. What little we do, most people cannot find in stores. This is not a government issue as much as it is consumer issue.
FrankieFrankenmeiste 2 years ago
Don't mince words Frankie. "Short on Population" is your faulty wording. Our population is growing because people are living longer due to great advancements in medicine. But that doesn't change the fact that there are not enough people being born and entering the work force to replace the number of those retiring. We are short on a replacement population. We are walking the way of the Greek and Roman civilizations. People who are ignorant of history, repeat it.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
You have a good point about jobs moving over seas. But that would have to be a problem that is resolved before any talk of a nationalized health care program. Wouldn't you agree.
And when you say "consumer issue" are you talking about inventive ways to hide the amount the government taxes the consumer in order to fund national health care? Like a soda tax? Make the cost of living higher and harder so people are more gager to end life? Funding national health care will reduce quality of life.
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
No I'm talking about American consumers supporting American workers by purchasing American made products and boycotting those companies who have shifted all of our work outside this country. The cost of paying American workers is always higher, regardless of taxes, because there are protections in place so that they cannot be worked unfairly. Yeah, the cost of your underwear is going to be a little higher if it's sewn by someone in the U.S.A. rather than by someone in Mexico.
FrankieFrankenmeiste 2 years ago
Frankie
We could legalize and tax all illegal aliens in order to get the eminent disaster ball rolling. Since the the plan needs people, well you're right, we do have the people and what's the difference between a legal and illegal alien anyway? A prefix? One is il?
Face the facts. The government plan is unsustainable. The demographic shift is the main cause but the job situation is definitely a contributing factor. How do we cultivate jobs in the world of globalization that we live?
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago 2
The huffington post mentions that in 2008 the USPS had had to pay out a $5.6 billion payment to a health benefit fund for retirees. And the facts come up again, contraception and abortion have caused an unnatural reduction of people going into the work force and shouldering the burden of health care. Health care costs go up because there are fewer people paying into them and more people utilizing them. Government solution? Rationing? Deny people with handicaps? Penalty for living over 80?
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
Wow, not only did the USPS end 2.8 BILLION in the red last year, but the year before that it was 5.1 BILLION in the red.
So because Obama spoke without thinking and compared a Nationalized system to the USPS competing with Fedex and UPS, should we be worried that the LARGEST U.S. government project in history is being compared to a smaller failing government project?
We are not ignorant "Nazis" who are just trying to cause trouble. We are paying attention. Listen to us!
KrestaInTheAfternoon 2 years ago
The GOP is just going to sabotage progress at every turn. They care much more about cheap political victories than the welfare of the American people.
ProgressiveAction10 2 years ago
Are you sure youre talking about the GOP or the democrats for the past 8 years?
My god, liberals have a short memory.
MeLikeGoFast 2 years ago
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BlueSkies360 2 years ago