Some of the response's here confuse anarchy with communisim..RULE BY community,of course direct democracy is mob rule and the individual has no say and no protection.Is it my right as an individual to believe In God as a higher ,perfect entity even if the community bans that concept from their reality.Where does my right to exist come from?The group,the State,through my own will and force that I would have to use to defend my right to exist?
He's basically got it right, it’s just a poor way to explain it. Anarchy comes from the Greek "ἀναρχίᾱ" - "anarchíā" meaning "Without Rule" and anarchists are ppl who oppose any system that rules by higher archy. In an anarchistic society power is decentralized to the people, small organizations or communities run themselves via free association and direct democracy. EVERYONE is considered equal and all vote on how to run the community. Thats the best i can put it in the small space for comments
@wowalinbie while you are completely right that anarchy is not against faith only organized religion it has to be said that as anarchists oppose hierarchy most of them do not believe in an all powerfully god, coz let’s face it that’s the biggest hierarchy of them all. But faith in an afterlife, a creator (creator not all powerful being) and a spiritual awareness are not uncommon
@wowalinbie while you are completely right that anarchy is not against faith only organized religion it has to be said that as anarchists oppose hierarchy most of them do not believe in an all powerfully god, coz let’s face it that’s the biggest hierarchy of them all. But faith in an afterlife, a creator (creator not all powerful being) and a spiritual awareness are not uncommon
"Anarchism stands for the liberation of the human mind from the dominion of religion and liberation of the human body from the coercion of property; liberation from the shackles and restraint of government. It stands for a social order based on the free grouping of individuals..."
Well, there is no such thing as non-control. Even in anarchy the controlling factor is no-control. There is no escape from control, only question is who do we want to control us? See Skinner's, Beyond Freedom and Dignity.
@tulapi123 It's not only responsibility. Anarchism would require the largest amount of work and effort, in almost all human and social fields, of all kinds of political systems.
Ireland at one point was an Anarchical society for over a thousand years. Iceland was at one point too. Until Iceland became a state and conquered Ireland, turning that into a state.
Um in case you havn't noticed Anarchy never lasts, some people are leaders and some people are followers. Therefore the followers fall in behind the Leaders. Then it becomes a despotism or monarchy. Then All the newly formed Despotisms fight each other and one will inevitably win. Bam your governments back. So have fun with your massive power struggle anarchists.
@ih8makinusernames its not that its not possible it just is not perfected yes i understand there will always be those people who will try to go ahead dictators and such but theirs ways of stopping those things witch as i said has not been reached witch is why all anarchist nations have fallen they've been flawed for example as others have said Ireland and Iceland were anarchist country's at a point Iceland got taken over by a state witch then took over Ireland flaws..
basically, the world is meant to be completely free. people are meant to rule themselves and only themselves. walk where we want, talk how we want, be who we want to be. frankly i'm surprised that the first person to suggest government didn't even doubt the idea. someone supporting limiting freedom is just beyond me.
Once more: I'd like to know the date of this show, as well as the links for the MP3 and the transcript. And what about the sound quality? I cant remember any show of Alan that sounded like this, with just one exception, when they've played with his phone line and this was another one.
i'll keep my ears peeled....i've always got AW on in the background....(our dear uploader is featured on the last but one show, 29th sept i think) i say 'ears' not 'eyes' because i think it's one of those-of which there are many on the sweet liberty downloads-that isn't bullet-pointed
I distrust, I dont like any "Ism", except of INDIVIDUALISM.
Isnt it pretty naiive to think we could just turn back the time, we could just go "back to the woods", forget all the high tech, the weaponry of them... THEY WANT US DEFENSELESS. Its THEY who want us without any property. It's THEY who want all states being destroyed. It's THEY who want to disappropriate us... Wouldnt be this "Anarchist-Communism" an "Utopia" for the elite, just for the few...? BEWARE OF PHONY LIBERTARIAN MOVEMENTS!
Yeah, care of fashion designers/pervert sex shop proprietors/culture creators scumbucket malcolm mclaren & co.Promoted from the top down,anarchy was further demonised.
Thank fuck Crass & those d.i.y. bands that followed afterwards took it back(only to be countered in big music media by Garry Bushell et al, who had their own label with massive funding from 'somewhere').I know young people who love anarchopunk & what it stood/stands for,better still they KNOW about the 'matrix' & sing about it.
i put my energy into LIVING anarcho-communistically for a while, as a road protester. Just been discussing anarchy/bartering with my dad: "what about immunologists? airline pilots etc. doesn't accommodate highly specialised trades/professions?" the answer is that a horizontal network of volunteers wd use their natural gifts for the benefit of those requiring them & in their turn wd benefit from skills/services of others but living more natural lives many specialisations could be scrapped. Sorted
been reading up on it & i'm really getting into the subject...i make no apology for usually making wikipedia my first port of call..been a v useful service to me: got a brilliant entry under 'Anarchist Communism'. Goes on to use the traditional family as an e.g. of anarcho-communism since each contributes income out of altruism, the property is commonly owned & there's no internal price system (made me laugh that did for some reason); goes on to list some other e.g.'s in the software comm
According to i.e. Fritz Springmeier there's an "anarchy level" in the illuminati hier-archy, in the bottom quarter of the pyramid, all-recruited opportunists help pushing the NWO agenda (i.e. as agents provocateur), the "A" symbol is just another occult one, isn't it? Research the meaning of the letter "A". Another pyramid. Another hierarchy. Another scam. DISTRUST any movement and simple solution. Get wind of COUNTERINTELLIGENCE. Check for instance the 1000s of phony profiles on MySpace...
...promoting NGOs, foundations, New Age crap, the alien scam agenda and: "ANARCHISM". These are PRofessionell PRopaganda PRofiles, not those of indy-viduals, this is PSYCHO-LOGICAL WARFARE!
again i have to agree & A is the compass too isn't it? trouble is, our entire language was created by high freemasons/rosicrucians who encoded it so that virtually everything we wish to communicate is tainted..e.g. children = 'kids'/'you' = 'ewe' (as invictus pointed out y'day on the show)both alluding to the goat of mendes, so yes it's a minefield & we have to be sure of our meaning which while hampered by language CAN transcend it. The MEANING of Anarchy then, opposed to counterfeit groups!
Absolutely, no govt is to be trusted. M15 has been using counterintelligence techniques for decades in N. Ireland, we all used to feel like someone was listening to us when we used our phones and that was in the 80s. We had internment and practically martial law here under the guise of the UK govt!!
I've read those quotes, very good. i remember an old uni lecturer saying "there's nothing wrong with anarchy' it just hasn't been given a go properly", or something like that. i looked it up in the dictionary a while ago and it is literally just being opposed to the established order. i recomend 'pip pip: a sideways look at time' by jay griffiths to get a good understanding of just how different western culture is to the cycles of the natural world and natural time.
Hey folks! Pls go to the bottom of the wikipedia entry for prince kropotkin who i'm just reaquinting myself with after reading a commentary on him about ten years ago. There's a small handful of quotes summarising he REAL NATURE OF ANARCHY which embodies pretty much exactly what Alan's discussing here. It speaks for Individuals like us who are implacably opposed to this vicious system. I want to help get this set up once the trifling matter of the NWO is put to bed
psychos are pure ego: the R-complex has to do with ritual (read on etiquette/protocol in high places!) territoriality (war mongering to get more terra) & being the oldest part of the brain, has to do with survival & strongly fears lack which is why for ppl of this mentality however obscenely wealthy they are it's never enough: if any are the more EVOLVED around here, it's our kind//a few years ago i lived in a bus/in woods; we shared/swapped/the 'tribe' benefited from each's talents [cont..]
no one had much money and it was an unwritten rule that those who were signing on used their money to benefit everyone//when you got things you treasured them//learnt to live more minimally//can just imagine if ppl organised themselves like this everywher; if it was the norm, what a paradise this earth would be; it's not neo-luddite either since new tech wd be used to enhance life not enslave us further
there'll be an obvious parting of the ways of the masses and Noble Savages soon
Yeah, i've done my bit activism/protest/squatting/traveller tribal life/anarchist mutual aid, (though i loved my old guitar) we shared everything (pool the giro's).It's the natural way of life, everyone benefits.
My rant above about 'non hierarchical anarchism' (not that communism has ever truely existed) above is cos anarchists today are being sidetracked into the left when true @ism recognises no wings, just people.
I despair when i see hear anti-nwo americans say 'restore our constitution'
Will do---getorphan recently sent my alter ego (BackToBartering) a vid of a bus of travellers stopped in the U.S. for no good reason. I'll send it ya. It's how i want to live. Never been financially motivated. Am ALWAYS being given clothes and stuff. Recently got given a playstation2 with loads of games. Gonna give it away myself coz knowing me i'll get addicted and since coming online only recently one ELECT-TRICK addiction is q enuff fanx. Thing is, I'M NEVER WITHOUT..i give/i receive. SPIRIT!
Grew up on d.i.y. anarcho punk(i.e.Crass), me dad was a long haired barefoot who encouraged me(when i bumped into him).I was an anarchist before i was 7 without knowing it, which tells me personally it's inherent in everybody beyond all this load of bollocks people call reality.I could see everything around me was 'false', for want of a better word.Eventually moved onto activism then travelling then back to activism.I'll never give it up.
So my main job now- alert people.Keep it spikey, sister!
Haven't heard of Prince Kropotkin Emma but what you describe sounds very like communitarian anarchy - communities with no hierarchy, self-sufficient with their own set of rules and values decided and agreed upon by all. True freedom.
I get fed up trying to explain to the ignorant that anarchy does not mean a violent, bloodthirsty free-for-all.
he believed in "...the destruction of States and new life starting again in thousands centres on the principle of the lively iniative of the individual and groups and of free agreement"
all things for all men because all men have need of them because all men worked to produce them in the measure of their strengh and because it is not possible to evaluate everyone's part in the production of the world's wealth--all is for all"
a MUST read: kropotkin quotes at the foot of the wiki entry!
"The destruction of states" and "all is for all"... hmm, this sounds pretty familiar, there are obvious parallels to the NWO agenda, I dont think that this is the right way now to fight them effectively, we need to battle for sovereignty first and then we have to change our all-masons' con-stitutions. Alan is right, the sentient individual being is the solution, dont join any group or movement, distrust ANY leader, even the anarchist ones. Distrust. But trust your instincts.
yes, you're absolutely right...it's the going to opposite extremes finding only that you've joined up circularly with your opponent!--i'm still relatively new to the subject but i'm confident that he's talking about tribal communities; a total decentralisation of power into half as many hands as their are humans, but i take your point.
practically, those of us who intend to live off the grid in the near future will be passing precis of this material around i expect!-i'm looking into it now!
We have to make alliances, it is our nature. It is what we do "individual" who stands up for the few against the all. Capitalism will always cause war. Anarchists have practically always been anti-capitalists. We are individuals but we do not hermitize ourselves like fucking bears.
"I get fed up trying to explain to the ignorant that anarchy does not mean a violent, bloodthirsty free-for-all." Me too. But something still makes me do it, when given the chance.
thanx for the socrates vid btw....having to listen 3/4 times...he's a slippery old bugger you see---jumps tracks in the blink of an eye...sophistry really by contemporary standards but diggin out the right tools in my kit to dismantle the smartarse is less straightforward than i remember (phil/theo)
i'm with Prince Kropotkin on this and ALWAYS have been. He was a Russian Nobleman (princes' were ten a penny back then). Top man. Said we should all live in tribal settlements; go back to bartering; have decentralised co-operatives...no leaders except those of the tribe who were naturally inclined to organise well for the benefit of everyone living in that community...not thought of him for a few years: that's the account I read of him anyhow. Watch someone come along now and disabuse me
anarchy is hypocrisy, infantilism, irrealism, petit bourgeois and reactionary bullshit.
KGBsovietpride 1 month ago
@KGBsovietpride
it all is
democracy:government run by media
fascism:government run by military
communism:government by bureaucrats
the best system was matrial clan society before the ice age that was the natural way
gwap360 1 month ago
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rainbowaon 1 month ago
Some of the response's here confuse anarchy with communisim..RULE BY community,of course direct democracy is mob rule and the individual has no say and no protection.Is it my right as an individual to believe In God as a higher ,perfect entity even if the community bans that concept from their reality.Where does my right to exist come from?The group,the State,through my own will and force that I would have to use to defend my right to exist?
leiberfrasmilch 3 months ago
Anarchy like the term terrorism has two meanings:
ANARCHY:
1)The literal meaning
2)The doctrinal meaning
rafnezden1968 4 months ago
He's basically got it right, it’s just a poor way to explain it. Anarchy comes from the Greek "ἀναρχίᾱ" - "anarchíā" meaning "Without Rule" and anarchists are ppl who oppose any system that rules by higher archy. In an anarchistic society power is decentralized to the people, small organizations or communities run themselves via free association and direct democracy. EVERYONE is considered equal and all vote on how to run the community. Thats the best i can put it in the small space for comments
smonvin 5 months ago
@chaosismyfriend006 just to make clear, anarchy is against religion not faith.
wowalinbie 1 year ago
@wowalinbie while you are completely right that anarchy is not against faith only organized religion it has to be said that as anarchists oppose hierarchy most of them do not believe in an all powerfully god, coz let’s face it that’s the biggest hierarchy of them all. But faith in an afterlife, a creator (creator not all powerful being) and a spiritual awareness are not uncommon
smonvin 5 months ago
@wowalinbie while you are completely right that anarchy is not against faith only organized religion it has to be said that as anarchists oppose hierarchy most of them do not believe in an all powerfully god, coz let’s face it that’s the biggest hierarchy of them all. But faith in an afterlife, a creator (creator not all powerful being) and a spiritual awareness are not uncommon
smonvin 5 months ago
"Anarchism stands for the liberation of the human mind from the dominion of religion and liberation of the human body from the coercion of property; liberation from the shackles and restraint of government. It stands for a social order based on the free grouping of individuals..."
-Emma Goldman
ChaosIsMyFriend006 1 year ago 4
Man Alan Watt is full of shit. That is not what anarchy means, it means opposition to the very system he speaks about.
dubified89 1 year ago
Well, there is no such thing as non-control. Even in anarchy the controlling factor is no-control. There is no escape from control, only question is who do we want to control us? See Skinner's, Beyond Freedom and Dignity.
bharataw 1 year ago
Anarchy means freedom, under responsibility, without a government.
tulapi123 1 year ago 4
@tulapi123 i beleive in anarchy with reason but government is needed but there not needed for there choices as they couse more problems
liveuppunk 1 year ago
@tulapi123 It's not only responsibility. Anarchism would require the largest amount of work and effort, in almost all human and social fields, of all kinds of political systems.
bloodystain 1 year ago
ANARCHY RULEZ BITCHES AND THATS THAT
SUPERAFROMAN1 2 years ago
Ireland at one point was an Anarchical society for over a thousand years. Iceland was at one point too. Until Iceland became a state and conquered Ireland, turning that into a state.
Gettinghitonattheban 2 years ago 2
lol
TheVikingsRevenge 2 years ago
Um in case you havn't noticed Anarchy never lasts, some people are leaders and some people are followers. Therefore the followers fall in behind the Leaders. Then it becomes a despotism or monarchy. Then All the newly formed Despotisms fight each other and one will inevitably win. Bam your governments back. So have fun with your massive power struggle anarchists.
ih8makinusernames 2 years ago
@ih8makinusernames its not that its not possible it just is not perfected yes i understand there will always be those people who will try to go ahead dictators and such but theirs ways of stopping those things witch as i said has not been reached witch is why all anarchist nations have fallen they've been flawed for example as others have said Ireland and Iceland were anarchist country's at a point Iceland got taken over by a state witch then took over Ireland flaws..
that1kid12345 2 years ago
anarchy 4 life!!!!
RealHipHopTunes 2 years ago
when the fore fathers created this country(usa) thats damn near what we are supposed to be.
juggernautxtr 2 years ago 2
well stated :) but is it just me or is Anarchy the best option for the whole world,not only America?
availablenickplsty 2 years ago
thats the way it should be, government as Reagan put is not the solution it is the problem.
govern ment needs to diapear and quite frankly the people of the world need to crush government.
juggernautxtr 2 years ago
this is giving too much thought into anarchism.
basically, the world is meant to be completely free. people are meant to rule themselves and only themselves. walk where we want, talk how we want, be who we want to be. frankly i'm surprised that the first person to suggest government didn't even doubt the idea. someone supporting limiting freedom is just beyond me.
codarkstarxx13 2 years ago
Anarchy-
No archy.
Hierarchy-
with archy.
Archy=order.
Anarchy=no dominant order.
No one or one groups order.
EVER.
thisisrealyo 3 years ago 2
I like Anarchy...
joelito101 2 years ago 2
Actually, Archy comes from the greek word Archos. Which means ruler, leader, rule, or whatever term that goes along thosel ines.
BlackShapeOfNexus 2 years ago
I am an anarchist and that was a crappy explanation
anarchy= 'no archons'
no involuntarily accepted despotic leaders can exist in order to begin with. Statism is a facilitation for the corruptibility of human nature.
FreiheitKampfer 3 years ago 5
lol..ok
gwap360 3 years ago
@FreiheitKampfer Anarchy doesnt mean that you belive in only the devil right?
MSTRKRFT915 4 months ago
@MSTRKRFT915 You sir, are a retard.
crosseyedmonkee 4 months ago
@crosseyedmonkee why thanks :) lol
MSTRKRFT915 4 months ago
@FreiheitKampfer it was a good explanation with crappy audio.
joemoe23 4 months ago
Once more: I'd like to know the date of this show, as well as the links for the MP3 and the transcript. And what about the sound quality? I cant remember any show of Alan that sounded like this, with just one exception, when they've played with his phone line and this was another one.
ausseratem 3 years ago 2
i'll keep my ears peeled....i've always got AW on in the background....(our dear uploader is featured on the last but one show, 29th sept i think) i say 'ears' not 'eyes' because i think it's one of those-of which there are many on the sweet liberty downloads-that isn't bullet-pointed
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 2
I distrust, I dont like any "Ism", except of INDIVIDUALISM.
Isnt it pretty naiive to think we could just turn back the time, we could just go "back to the woods", forget all the high tech, the weaponry of them... THEY WANT US DEFENSELESS. Its THEY who want us without any property. It's THEY who want all states being destroyed. It's THEY who want to disappropriate us... Wouldnt be this "Anarchist-Communism" an "Utopia" for the elite, just for the few...? BEWARE OF PHONY LIBERTARIAN MOVEMENTS!
ausseratem 3 years ago
It is YOU who is the "Fake" Libertarian. Your minarchism is an impossibilism and a laughing stock of the anarchist movement.
kittiest34 3 years ago
and the sex pistols most famous song quite obviously discredited Anarchy..it's always associated with Diablo, isn't it? the symbol?
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 4
Yeah, care of fashion designers/pervert sex shop proprietors/culture creators scumbucket malcolm mclaren & co.Promoted from the top down,anarchy was further demonised.
Thank fuck Crass & those d.i.y. bands that followed afterwards took it back(only to be countered in big music media by Garry Bushell et al, who had their own label with massive funding from 'somewhere').I know young people who love anarchopunk & what it stood/stands for,better still they KNOW about the 'matrix' & sing about it.
zealotnut 3 years ago 2
i put my energy into LIVING anarcho-communistically for a while, as a road protester. Just been discussing anarchy/bartering with my dad: "what about immunologists? airline pilots etc. doesn't accommodate highly specialised trades/professions?" the answer is that a horizontal network of volunteers wd use their natural gifts for the benefit of those requiring them & in their turn wd benefit from skills/services of others but living more natural lives many specialisations could be scrapped. Sorted
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 6
Mindreader!
Sorted!
zealotnut 3 years ago
;-D
been reading up on it & i'm really getting into the subject...i make no apology for usually making wikipedia my first port of call..been a v useful service to me: got a brilliant entry under 'Anarchist Communism'. Goes on to use the traditional family as an e.g. of anarcho-communism since each contributes income out of altruism, the property is commonly owned & there's no internal price system (made me laugh that did for some reason); goes on to list some other e.g.'s in the software comm
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 3
According to i.e. Fritz Springmeier there's an "anarchy level" in the illuminati hier-archy, in the bottom quarter of the pyramid, all-recruited opportunists help pushing the NWO agenda (i.e. as agents provocateur), the "A" symbol is just another occult one, isn't it? Research the meaning of the letter "A". Another pyramid. Another hierarchy. Another scam. DISTRUST any movement and simple solution. Get wind of COUNTERINTELLIGENCE. Check for instance the 1000s of phony profiles on MySpace...
ausseratem 3 years ago 2
...promoting NGOs, foundations, New Age crap, the alien scam agenda and: "ANARCHISM". These are PRofessionell PRopaganda PRofiles, not those of indy-viduals, this is PSYCHO-LOGICAL WARFARE!
ausseratem 3 years ago
again i have to agree & A is the compass too isn't it? trouble is, our entire language was created by high freemasons/rosicrucians who encoded it so that virtually everything we wish to communicate is tainted..e.g. children = 'kids'/'you' = 'ewe' (as invictus pointed out y'day on the show)both alluding to the goat of mendes, so yes it's a minefield & we have to be sure of our meaning which while hampered by language CAN transcend it. The MEANING of Anarchy then, opposed to counterfeit groups!
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 3
Absolutely, no govt is to be trusted. M15 has been using counterintelligence techniques for decades in N. Ireland, we all used to feel like someone was listening to us when we used our phones and that was in the 80s. We had internment and practically martial law here under the guise of the UK govt!!
marrow777 3 years ago 3
I've read those quotes, very good. i remember an old uni lecturer saying "there's nothing wrong with anarchy' it just hasn't been given a go properly", or something like that. i looked it up in the dictionary a while ago and it is literally just being opposed to the established order. i recomend 'pip pip: a sideways look at time' by jay griffiths to get a good understanding of just how different western culture is to the cycles of the natural world and natural time.
goatboyjnr 3 years ago 6
nice one thanx i'll check that out goatboyjnr
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago
Hey folks! Pls go to the bottom of the wikipedia entry for prince kropotkin who i'm just reaquinting myself with after reading a commentary on him about ten years ago. There's a small handful of quotes summarising he REAL NATURE OF ANARCHY which embodies pretty much exactly what Alan's discussing here. It speaks for Individuals like us who are implacably opposed to this vicious system. I want to help get this set up once the trifling matter of the NWO is put to bed
Big Love
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 8
I want that also!
It's amazing how many people want the same thing and very many of us don't even know each other.
"and we shall throw cobbles, glorious cobbles"-Kropotkin-(of reality, in this case).
Yes, first we've got to put this gaggle of inbred hereditary psycopaths to sleep.
zealotnut 3 years ago 2
psychos are pure ego: the R-complex has to do with ritual (read on etiquette/protocol in high places!) territoriality (war mongering to get more terra) & being the oldest part of the brain, has to do with survival & strongly fears lack which is why for ppl of this mentality however obscenely wealthy they are it's never enough: if any are the more EVOLVED around here, it's our kind//a few years ago i lived in a bus/in woods; we shared/swapped/the 'tribe' benefited from each's talents [cont..]
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 3
no one had much money and it was an unwritten rule that those who were signing on used their money to benefit everyone//when you got things you treasured them//learnt to live more minimally//can just imagine if ppl organised themselves like this everywher; if it was the norm, what a paradise this earth would be; it's not neo-luddite either since new tech wd be used to enhance life not enslave us further
there'll be an obvious parting of the ways of the masses and Noble Savages soon
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 3
Yeah, i've done my bit activism/protest/squatting/traveller tribal life/anarchist mutual aid, (though i loved my old guitar) we shared everything (pool the giro's).It's the natural way of life, everyone benefits.
My rant above about 'non hierarchical anarchism' (not that communism has ever truely existed) above is cos anarchists today are being sidetracked into the left when true @ism recognises no wings, just people.
I despair when i see hear anti-nwo americans say 'restore our constitution'
zealotnut 3 years ago 2
p.s. Check out Nestor Mackhno.Top bloke!
zealotnut 3 years ago
Will do---getorphan recently sent my alter ego (BackToBartering) a vid of a bus of travellers stopped in the U.S. for no good reason. I'll send it ya. It's how i want to live. Never been financially motivated. Am ALWAYS being given clothes and stuff. Recently got given a playstation2 with loads of games. Gonna give it away myself coz knowing me i'll get addicted and since coming online only recently one ELECT-TRICK addiction is q enuff fanx. Thing is, I'M NEVER WITHOUT..i give/i receive. SPIRIT!
BackToBartering 3 years ago 4
Glad to hear it.
Save those playstation thumbs for when you're learning how to build a bender.
Fight war, not wars.
zealotnut 3 years ago 2
"bender"---why dintcha reply directly? can do earth tents too!...am 32 now: SPIKY road protester
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 3
Grew up on d.i.y. anarcho punk(i.e.Crass), me dad was a long haired barefoot who encouraged me(when i bumped into him).I was an anarchist before i was 7 without knowing it, which tells me personally it's inherent in everybody beyond all this load of bollocks people call reality.I could see everything around me was 'false', for want of a better word.Eventually moved onto activism then travelling then back to activism.I'll never give it up.
So my main job now- alert people.Keep it spikey, sister!
zealotnut 3 years ago
@zealotnut me too
dubified89 1 year ago
Haven't heard of Prince Kropotkin Emma but what you describe sounds very like communitarian anarchy - communities with no hierarchy, self-sufficient with their own set of rules and values decided and agreed upon by all. True freedom.
I get fed up trying to explain to the ignorant that anarchy does not mean a violent, bloodthirsty free-for-all.
GeorgeDorn00023 3 years ago 18
he believed in "...the destruction of States and new life starting again in thousands centres on the principle of the lively iniative of the individual and groups and of free agreement"
all things for all men because all men have need of them because all men worked to produce them in the measure of their strengh and because it is not possible to evaluate everyone's part in the production of the world's wealth--all is for all"
a MUST read: kropotkin quotes at the foot of the wiki entry!
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 5
"The destruction of states" and "all is for all"... hmm, this sounds pretty familiar, there are obvious parallels to the NWO agenda, I dont think that this is the right way now to fight them effectively, we need to battle for sovereignty first and then we have to change our all-masons' con-stitutions. Alan is right, the sentient individual being is the solution, dont join any group or movement, distrust ANY leader, even the anarchist ones. Distrust. But trust your instincts.
ausseratem 3 years ago
Edit: Not to forget -- "anarchist leaders" is in the strict sense an oxymoron ; D
ausseratem 3 years ago
yes, you're absolutely right...it's the going to opposite extremes finding only that you've joined up circularly with your opponent!--i'm still relatively new to the subject but i'm confident that he's talking about tribal communities; a total decentralisation of power into half as many hands as their are humans, but i take your point.
practically, those of us who intend to live off the grid in the near future will be passing precis of this material around i expect!-i'm looking into it now!
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago
We have to make alliances, it is our nature. It is what we do "individual" who stands up for the few against the all. Capitalism will always cause war. Anarchists have practically always been anti-capitalists. We are individuals but we do not hermitize ourselves like fucking bears.
kittiest34 3 years ago 2
MUSIC TO MY EARS!
zealotnut 3 years ago 2
@GeorgeDorn00023
"I get fed up trying to explain to the ignorant that anarchy does not mean a violent, bloodthirsty free-for-all." Me too. But something still makes me do it, when given the chance.
bloodystain 1 year ago
At last, someone reputable ripping apart the 'dictionary definition'.
Don't know about Kropotkin, but Bakunin was a mason.
Unfortunately, anarchism has been infiltrated for many a year.Really it's all about being an INDIVIDUAL, and the hierarchy just couldn't allow that.
In recent years it has changed from anarcho-pacifism to 'non hierarchical communism'.
Disgusting.
I try to tell other anarchists that the big bankers wrote the com' mani', but only the older ones seem to get it these days.
zealotnut 3 years ago
can we get the link for the transcipt for this posted up?
supadupadennis 3 years ago
Oh yes, I really would like to know the date of this show, please post both links, for the MP3 and the transcript as well.
ausseratem 3 years ago
thanx for the socrates vid btw....having to listen 3/4 times...he's a slippery old bugger you see---jumps tracks in the blink of an eye...sophistry really by contemporary standards but diggin out the right tools in my kit to dismantle the smartarse is less straightforward than i remember (phil/theo)
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 6
i'm with Prince Kropotkin on this and ALWAYS have been. He was a Russian Nobleman (princes' were ten a penny back then). Top man. Said we should all live in tribal settlements; go back to bartering; have decentralised co-operatives...no leaders except those of the tribe who were naturally inclined to organise well for the benefit of everyone living in that community...not thought of him for a few years: that's the account I read of him anyhow. Watch someone come along now and disabuse me
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 3 years ago 6
Nice!!
DHMIII 3 years ago 14