This is some fine iai. Sensei High, I live in Kansas City and was trying to find the school in Overland Park about a year ago... does it no longer exist?
This is Sensei High, who in his capacity as Intn'l Director for Japan Karate-Do Ryobu-Kai was taught by Nagase Sensei while he was the Japanese Consulate-who was permitted by TSKS-R in a limited way- so as to "foster interest and learning of the Japanese culture, philosophy, and martial arts."though allowed to teach it, you are quite right Daikeli, Jinmukan is not part of the TSKSR nor allowed to change the kata in any way.Their affiliation remains informal but amiable.
Oh, yes and before i forget, Jinmukan takes part in an annual Event in Kansas City with the Ryobu-Kai as well as the TSKSR, who sends representatives to do demonstrations and make sure the school is being properly taught.
If you're in the area you should check it out- it's always interesting to see. It's coming up soon i think.
basically, this man nor any of his students including vysokij are permitted, licennsed, or authorized in anyway to demo Katori Shinto ryu, nor practice, nor teach. And it is unlikely Otake Sensei is a friend of vysokij's sensei. There is only one authorized shidosha or teacher by Otake Sensei in the US and he is in Washington state. If you are not part of Otake's group you are not a legitimate practitioner
Yup! Daikeli is 100% correct. Not approved by Otake & Soke of TSKSR you are not in the ryu.
But just as an addition: There are people who started out in Sugino-ha but later left the organisation and got permission to enter the main tradition under Otake Ritsuke. These people had to leave behind their Sugino-ha ranking/licenses and start anew. I believe that one of the official TSKSR guys in Holland started out as Sugino-ha.
This man is howard hues (his last name I think is misspelled), and he was a student of nagase and sugawara sensei, who does have a menkyo in Katori Shinto ryu bujutsu, but is not authorized to teach, though he taught anyway. This is Katori though illegitamately taught.
Hmmm I've seen a few of these 'Jinmukai' Videos now. And to be honest it seems to be an almost carbon copy of Tenshinsho-Den Katori Shinto Ryu. If this was book it would be called plagiarism.
That aside the skills of the Swordsman in this video impressed me quite a lot...Apart from 3.46 lol
Why is this "Jinmukai Iaijutsu" performing the EXACT katas of Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu Iaijutsu? On top of that, they don't even acknowledge this fact on their website... That's a fraud and if this was the "old days", it would have been punishable by death.
Ah, it's nice to see some iaijutsu at speed. Maybe I haven't looked around enough, but it seemed like a lot of videos were showing good technique at a slow speed.
That is what I was told when the kata at 6.45 was demonstrated to me a few years ago, that it was arrow avoidance.
As for the spin at 3.47, I was told it is simply to give yourself some distance after that diagonal cut following the tsuki, so it will be easier to execute the kirioroshi (as we in MJER call it). The cut extends all the way back so the body spin puts you in position for the final blow.
For the life of me, I can't see the practical applications of either of these two techniques. I realise that this is probably increadibly rude of me to ask, but it's been driving me crazy.
I don't know exactly, and from what I've seem the Katori Shinto Ryu jojutsu kata has the spin aswell. But from a friend who is in this school, he says it's a feint, to draw the opponent in
i don't how long your friend has been with KSR but he has not been taught the gokui of the above omote kata. the movement being a feint could not be any further from the truth.
i assume you've trained very little in kenjutsu. all the kata have a scenario. all the movement within the kata have very specific function. if i were to explain what both katas were trying to achieve, it would make sense. oddly enough, the first movement you're remarking on the above kenshi, he did spin slightly incorrect.
Well sir I was making an educated guess, me being someone who is outside of this system, and you have corrected me which is apppreciated. I did not intend to provoke such a violent response. Please do make assumptions about my training background. Good luck in your training :-)
Interesting. This looks to be a very clean and powerful execution of some of the TSKSR techniques similar to the manner practiced at the Shimbukan. I'm surprised to see the Chuden-level techniques included here. Is your organization affiliated with the Shimbukan dojo in Narita?
Thanks for your compliments, especially having been compared with the Shinbukan. We are not part of Otake Sensei's group. However, my sensei is a friend of Otake Sensei.
By chuden do you mean gokui kata? Only two were shown, and if I recall, the only iai kata of gokui level that are on youtube (performed by Sugino-sensei and Otake-sensei) are those two. Goes to show where they got this kata from =P
Do you guys have a dojo in buena park?
mikeymarshful 1 year ago
I like your noto :-)
DonRubinjo 1 year ago
This is some fine iai. Sensei High, I live in Kansas City and was trying to find the school in Overland Park about a year ago... does it no longer exist?
midwestterror 1 year ago
Daikeli, my compliments.
This is Sensei High, who in his capacity as Intn'l Director for Japan Karate-Do Ryobu-Kai was taught by Nagase Sensei while he was the Japanese Consulate-who was permitted by TSKS-R in a limited way- so as to "foster interest and learning of the Japanese culture, philosophy, and martial arts."though allowed to teach it, you are quite right Daikeli, Jinmukan is not part of the TSKSR nor allowed to change the kata in any way.Their affiliation remains informal but amiable.
sonsurion 3 years ago
Oh, yes and before i forget, Jinmukan takes part in an annual Event in Kansas City with the Ryobu-Kai as well as the TSKSR, who sends representatives to do demonstrations and make sure the school is being properly taught.
If you're in the area you should check it out- it's always interesting to see. It's coming up soon i think.
sonsurion 3 years ago
basically, this man nor any of his students including vysokij are permitted, licennsed, or authorized in anyway to demo Katori Shinto ryu, nor practice, nor teach. And it is unlikely Otake Sensei is a friend of vysokij's sensei. There is only one authorized shidosha or teacher by Otake Sensei in the US and he is in Washington state. If you are not part of Otake's group you are not a legitimate practitioner
daikeli 4 years ago
What about Sugino-ha practitioners?
hjallgir 4 years ago
That is a subject of endless debate and flame wars.
nii87 4 years ago
Yup! Daikeli is 100% correct. Not approved by Otake & Soke of TSKSR you are not in the ryu.
But just as an addition: There are people who started out in Sugino-ha but later left the organisation and got permission to enter the main tradition under Otake Ritsuke. These people had to leave behind their Sugino-ha ranking/licenses and start anew. I believe that one of the official TSKSR guys in Holland started out as Sugino-ha.
FredDude27 3 years ago
This man is howard hues (his last name I think is misspelled), and he was a student of nagase and sugawara sensei, who does have a menkyo in Katori Shinto ryu bujutsu, but is not authorized to teach, though he taught anyway. This is Katori though illegitamately taught.
daikeli 4 years ago
Hmmm I've seen a few of these 'Jinmukai' Videos now. And to be honest it seems to be an almost carbon copy of Tenshinsho-Den Katori Shinto Ryu. If this was book it would be called plagiarism.
That aside the skills of the Swordsman in this video impressed me quite a lot...Apart from 3.46 lol
Tomosan2888 4 years ago 2
Sorry, but what about 3.46?
LetumZen 3 years ago
ita a kata called kusa nage no ken
msalazarx 2 years ago
Why is this "Jinmukai Iaijutsu" performing the EXACT katas of Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu Iaijutsu? On top of that, they don't even acknowledge this fact on their website... That's a fraud and if this was the "old days", it would have been punishable by death.
Sepiraph 4 years ago
because they do not practice one certain style (ryu-ha) nor do they give rank in any particular style. kai is the organization, not a style.
kempobrad 4 years ago
Ah, it's nice to see some iaijutsu at speed. Maybe I haven't looked around enough, but it seemed like a lot of videos were showing good technique at a slow speed.
Very impressive stuff. Good reigi, too.
HacksawSA 4 years ago 2
i've been told iaido is slower than iaijutsu...as it is the actual combat art.
kempobrad 4 years ago
how about more secret techniques from standing positions and kumitachi please?
irwan0168 4 years ago
cool, but the rotating movement its a little bit too much..maybe..i am not familiar with TSKSR, by the way 6.45 its for blocking arrow.
irwan0168 4 years ago
That is what I was told when the kata at 6.45 was demonstrated to me a few years ago, that it was arrow avoidance.
As for the spin at 3.47, I was told it is simply to give yourself some distance after that diagonal cut following the tsuki, so it will be easier to execute the kirioroshi (as we in MJER call it). The cut extends all the way back so the body spin puts you in position for the final blow.
Schwertfechter 4 years ago
I am not familiar with this kata, so please bear with me if at mark 6:45 I wonder what rotating movement that is for.
the50s60s70s 4 years ago
In the katori ryu, the sageo is to remain lose. because in this old style you must be able to use youre sageo for tying. ore other utilities
kaifinn 4 years ago
Who is your teacher ?
Hatakeyama, Sugawara ?
Peekingduck 4 years ago
Nagase
vysokij 4 years ago
The sageo is attached to a hakama or belt of any sort, its mearly there to keep the saya from falling out.
mascho9 4 years ago
Compliments! Just a question about a small detail: shouldn't the sageo be attached to the hakama?
the50s60s70s 4 years ago
the last 5 kata are the chudan level. witch is considerd very secret.i think these kata are to remain secret.
kaifinn 4 years ago
Nice form! I really wish I could learn Iaido! Too bad there's none here in our country, the Philippines...
Camua 5 years ago
I have a few questions about some a couple of moves that you did:
-At around 3:47, you spin your body around after a tsuki.
-At around 6:46, you seem to twirl the Iaito.
For the life of me, I can't see the practical applications of either of these two techniques. I realise that this is probably increadibly rude of me to ask, but it's been driving me crazy.
TwilightDuality 5 years ago
I don't know exactly, and from what I've seem the Katori Shinto Ryu jojutsu kata has the spin aswell. But from a friend who is in this school, he says it's a feint, to draw the opponent in
EishinRyu 5 years ago
i don't how long your friend has been with KSR but he has not been taught the gokui of the above omote kata. the movement being a feint could not be any further from the truth.
papatinpan 5 years ago
i assume you've trained very little in kenjutsu. all the kata have a scenario. all the movement within the kata have very specific function. if i were to explain what both katas were trying to achieve, it would make sense. oddly enough, the first movement you're remarking on the above kenshi, he did spin slightly incorrect.
papatinpan 5 years ago
Well sir I was making an educated guess, me being someone who is outside of this system, and you have corrected me which is apppreciated. I did not intend to provoke such a violent response. Please do make assumptions about my training background. Good luck in your training :-)
EishinRyu 5 years ago
check your messages....you have misconstrued my comments
papatinpan 5 years ago
Interesting. This looks to be a very clean and powerful execution of some of the TSKSR techniques similar to the manner practiced at the Shimbukan. I'm surprised to see the Chuden-level techniques included here. Is your organization affiliated with the Shimbukan dojo in Narita?
Hugonis 5 years ago 2
Thanks for your compliments, especially having been compared with the Shinbukan. We are not part of Otake Sensei's group. However, my sensei is a friend of Otake Sensei.
vysokij 5 years ago
Shiiki Sensei?
Gunyo 5 years ago
By chuden do you mean gokui kata? Only two were shown, and if I recall, the only iai kata of gokui level that are on youtube (performed by Sugino-sensei and Otake-sensei) are those two. Goes to show where they got this kata from =P
nii87 4 years ago