Macedonia was never a region of Greece,on the contrary,ancient Greece was subjected to the Macedonians when Alexander conquered Greece in 338 B.C. In 1913 modern Greece and her SLAVIC ALLIES partitioned Macedonia. Today a portion [51%] belongs to Greece it is by virtue of an illegal partition of the whole occupation of the MACEDONIANS. GO TO GOOGLE and TYPE-IN :...... "macedonia before 1913".
They says that the history's repeated. Do you know w? The history needs to be re-write once for all and the world needs to know the truth. Than will never repeated again.
FYROM President Kiro Gligorov admits his nation is not related to ancient Macedonians
For anyone who has any doubt - this is the PRESIDENT of FYROM ADMITTING the obvious that his Slavic race population has no connection to Alexander the Great !
See the VIDEO on You Tube titled...
" FYROM President Kiro Gligorov admits his nation is not related to ancient Macedonians "
Slavs and all the old tribes come from warm places .. some have migrated to the north, and later some came back, there were many reasons, climate change, combined with the dry years
macedonians never was greek(Gypsies) ,Macedonia for Macedonians and Macedonia is one !!!!! . but you , england and USA have occupied 4 parts from macedonia !!!! -You do not recognize Macedonian minority . -You have occupied our macedonia of 4 parts . -even and This ''free'' Macedonia in which we live is occupied from NATO and EU !!! FUCK YOU And the lie are short legs!!!!!!
13alexander is right. FYROM's obsession with an ancient Hellenic leader is doing more damage to their authentic Slavic culture, and history than centuries of foreign rule.
@MKDAndrej hahaha i am from England this is true, and macedonia is not greek it never was, nether was alexander 1913 - 2013 is all you need to know really.... its funny watching this video it looks like it has had £10 spent on it... do you hear how many times the actor says greeek greek greek
@acemcloude Ty for supporting macedonia , and i agree with u. These are bunch of stupid ppl who want to change history trough money. Well that cant happen my dear friends.. bb have a nice day :D
@MKDAndrej You speak Bulgarian dialect you live in the ancient Peonian land and you have slavic names and traditions but you want to be Greek(Macedonian) so badly that you spit on your own ancestors!!!
@13alexander :O i dont speak bulgarian , its so different like u know it pff. I leave on Ancient Macedonian land and i have slavic name but that doesnt make me different person from my true Macedonian ancestors. There are 50% Ancient macedonians on this land and u canot change it buy youtube comments . Greeks are even more far away then macedonians. Alexander crushed greeks to the ground and fucked them in the asses. So if i am slav how can greeks be my ancestors , that means u are slav too..
The point is that Greeks(Macedonians) can NOT be your ancestors, your language, culture, names, ways, traditions and anything else define your nation is Slavic, the Slavic tribes came to southern Europe at 650 AD, that is 1.000 years after Alexander and 1.600 whole years after the ancient Macedonians existence!
Ending, you have a funny obsession with anal-sex, certainly that have something to do with you!
@13alexander but yet the ancient macedonians didnt dissapeard, they still leave on this land. U obviosly didnt learned that Alexander hated the greeks the most and u still take him as ure own , how can that be possible. And what is so wrong with slavs. Oh i know , its wrong that u are loosers. So if i am bulgarian or serbian or turk , u will still loose like u lost from alexander , like u lost from bulgarian , like u lost from turks and soon ull loose from macedonia.. But sure u live in the past
My previous message proves that your land at ancient years called Paionia and NOT Macedonia, but you didn’t see a thing; you are totally blind from your country brainwashing!
Maybe Paionian descendants still live on your land. But if somewhere still lives Macedonian descendants is in the ancient Macedonian land that located in Greece.
Nothing is wrong with Slavs there are proud and brave people, the point is that you are so pitiful that spit on your own ancestors!
@13alexander I claerly read ure previous message and u are totaly wrong , I am Macedonian and im proud of it. I dont spit on my macedonian ancestor , i spit on u stupid losers( greeks) Who are thiefs from their begging. I havent been brainwashed by any1. But it is pointless some1 to tell u stories coz its obvious u wont understand and u will always negogate. 1/3 of the world countries calls me Macedonian and my countrie is Macedonian. In that case 1 pittyfull countrie cant change that.. "Greece"
@13alexander Its clearly that u dont want to understand a fucking thing so i wont waste my precious time on u Macedonia for Macedonians Fuck the rest including Girogayrice with their hyp0critic nonsence. More than a half world calls me Macedonians and my land is Macedonia i shall no explane u more..
Agreed Macedonia for Macedonians, but the point is that you are Slavs living in a Yugoslavian region north of the historical Macedonia that is IN Greece.
Your new country claim for a compound term that embodies the ancient Greek name Macedonia, the name “Pseudo-Macedonia” declares exactly your country!
@13alexander Stupid Dude Macedonia has nothing to do with Girogayrice unhappy hppies. U only Stoled what is Macedonian u Killed what is Macedonian and u claim that for u re self like Turks did to ure Stambol. Yes i ama slav i am mixed but that doesnt make me not to live on Macedonain land. What are u. U are GIrogayreek inhabitant , u have nothing to do with Macedonia. U cant have , what u dont have. Enjoy ure life and spare me with ure worthless shits.............................................
monkeydonkey i told you 100 times, historical Macedonian land is what nowadays Greek-Macedonia is.
Your pathetic fabricated country never was Macedonia.
If you monkey consider you self Macedonian, can you explain in your language, which you dare to call "Macedonian" (when factually is a SLAVIC dialect) the meaning of the ancient Macedonian names or the survived ancient Macedonian signs?
@13alexander Ok u pathetic junk. Lets Clear this. If Macedonia was Greek. Why ure countrie nowadays isnt called Macedonia , If Macedonian language wasnt slavic but Greek why ure language nowadays is not called Macedonian. Explane me things as long as u want but u are FAIL always. But one is Fact u have the lead coz u stoled Macedonian land in 1913 and u are full of junks. Alexander's folt is that he didnt cut the fucking Greek hads when he had a chance so Fuck off Deepshit. Im slav and proud....
@MKDAndrej Let’s clear this; they are Greeks that live in the land of ancient Greek kingdom of Macedonia like me and Slavs like you that live at a part of Yugoslavia in the land of ancient Paionia that located north of ancient Macedonia.
Slavs came in south Europe at 6th century AD.
When Alexander conquered the ancient known world at 4th century BC, the Slavs like your self were at least 3.000 km away from the Balkans and they didn't even have discovered fire yet.
@MKDAndrej Greeks understand the meaning of the ancient Macedonian writings because Greek language is very close to ancient Greek language and ancient Macedonian dialect was an ancient Greek dialect.
There are over than 2.000 survived ancient Macedonian writings in the museums all over the world, Any Greek can understand the meaning of them! Can you understand even a word?
Roman Strabon confirm "the Dardanians(Skopje) were a dirty tribe a whole different than the Makedones and other Greeks"
@MKDAndrej And about Alexander, just read two of his report to his troops before battles:
"We can move against the barbarians and liberate ourselves from the Persian bondage for as GREEKS we should not be slaves to barbarians" [Callisthenes]
"WE SHALL FIGHT FOR GREECE, and OUR HEARTS WILL ALWAYS BE IN IT" [Arrian]
Why is that difficult for a Slav-Monkeydonian to accept the straightforward reality?
My brainwashed friend, do you think that history can be erased?
@acemcloude You are from England? this is true!!! lol What the fuck r u retarded? don't u ppl have self respect? and why u monkeydonians started to claim for GREEK land after 1991? it was then after the breakup of Yugoslavia that u realized that u have no history and u came up with the idea of stealing some?
stupid greeks aleksander kill all greeks , but h glory hahahahhaha mother fucker . macedonia for the macedonians forever and united macedonia , vardar , pirin aegean will be one united macedonia that is new name for nato mother fucker
There is not a SINGLE shred of evidence that any language (including Bulgarian, the base language fo FYROM) was spoken other than... guess what? GREEK! Oh Alexandros III claimed to be Greek, and Argead kings were accepted as Greek (Alexandros I participated in the Olympics). ΈΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΕΣΤΙΝ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ! ΑΙΩΝΙΗ ΈΛΛΑΣ! ΑΙΩΝΙΗ ΈΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ! χαχαχαχαχαχαχα! Oh, and I am not Greek!
I am Macedonian and proud of it ...I respect and recognize your culture ...Are you to ignorant to do the same ...We are recognized as a nation by the world.. Get with the times and educate yourself before you speak ...You are making the Greek culture look like a disgusting people.. do your Greek culture a favor and stop ...
We are not trying to relate to the Greeks ..Far from it....We are our own people and culture we have our own language ...we are nothing like you....... we have a History ..
I respect your culture are you to ignorant to do the same.....
Oi tourkoi apeleytherwsan oles tous tis perioxes k twra apiloun me tous simaxous tous to aigaio k tin kriti!!!!Kai kathos plisiazei k i deyteri ekdosi tou paixnidiou i skopianoi einai etoimi na mpoun me to onoma macedonia!!!!Mpes k esi sto game k voithise tin Ellada!!!.
w w w . erepublik . com / en / referrer / figthforyourhistory (vgalte ta kena)
The idea that Alexander the Great was something that belonged to our history was in the minds of some extremist political groups only! These groups were insignificant the first years of our independence, but the big problem is that the old Balkan Nations have been used to be legitimized through their history. In the Balkans, if you want to be recognized as a Nation, you need to have history 3000 years old
So since you made us invent a history, we invented it! (…) You forced us to the arms of the extreme nationalists who today claim that we are direct descendants of Alexander the Great!
Denko Maleski, first Minister of foreign affairs of FYROM (1991 to 1993) and ambassador to the United Nations from 1993 to 1997, in an interview to Greek TV channel Mega, November 2006
FYROM say the biggest lies ever!! In history there were genosides, lies and liers but never a race like Slavs didn't steal the identity of other race (macedonian - Greeks). Now it's time to happen this
I have one small proposition for all yugoslavian folks.Why don't you visit Vergina (located 50-60km from Thessaloniki) where the tomb of Phillip is.Then see out for yourself in what language is the text in the numerous relics there written.If you see any similarities with your language then let us know....
@boulis87 We know we are a different culture than Greek ...We are not trying to steal your culture we have our own ...We are Macedonians ...We do not want to be Greek it seems your culture is trying to claim us as their own... You flatter us as a nation ,we know we are a great people ,but having the Greek want to claim us as their own tells the world we are a special unique Culture with a rich history.....
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Since the overwhelming quotes confirm the fact that the ancient Macedonians were not Greek, the Greek Internet pages purposely avoid them, as they have no way of explaining them.
@TrueMakedonian the todays greek are the sons of the hellenes which fight against the ancient macedonians and the epirotes,,,you cannot claim on everything which has a similar language to yours,,,thats fascism shit in your head,,,do not claim on things you do not know
@Truejustice100 At least we can go back then, you who migrated there after the 6th century AD , how can you possibly claim that you have any relations to the ancient macedonians?
@TrueMakedonian WE ARE NOT GREEK >>>>>WE ARE NOT SLAVS>>>>MACEDONIANS IS WHAT WE ARE and PROUD OF IT!!!!!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH THE WORLD KNOWS THE TRUTH STOP BEING IGNORANT>>>YOU MAKE YOUR PEOPLE LOOK BAD>>>>
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,
Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe
Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS YOU LITTLE SHIT? iGENEA is a fucking organisation selling PRODUCTS to "test" your identity. You idiot! They are making money out of ignorant fools on the internet you fucked up individual! Macedonians are Greeks, "Antique Macedonians" what the fuck? You are Slavs! Slavs came to the region in 6th A.D. century, Macedon Kingdom fall in 146 BC!!!!!! Uneducated fucking pathetic scum!
and think like this.. greece had the sea as a benefit of all kind of trades from all kinds of countries, and whats the drawback for you pure raised greeks?got immigrants and you got mixed with other kinds of people, so dont talk shit about macedonian are not the real people, we got mixed and GOT the slavic words, greeks didnt want to change. in my words THE REAL PURE GREEK-MKD WILL YOU NEVER FIND,
yeah instead they get friendly with the Turks! 'The Butchers of the Balkans' which will backfire on them! The Turks have butchered christians for years and their fascist government thinks it they will help them! Proves how blind to the truth they are, and stupid.
They didn't unite anyone?? Try reading a book that wasn't published in your communist loving country you dimwit! It was revenge for Greece that Phillip & Alexander wanted to invade Persia for payback! You slavic ancestors didn't even come into the Balkans until 1000yrs AFTER Alexanders time! The only version of history that says they weren't Greek is in your country, what does that tell you???? Look at an Ancient Macedonian coin & see if can read the writing on it!
slavs came at the balkan and mixed with the other ppl here, so cause they were the majority on balkan all nations accepted the slavic language. I'm wondering why the greeks were the only ppl not mixed with the slavs, guess cause they lived in a ghetto, probably after 50 years you'll speak turkish but it doesn't mean you will lose your greek origin just like the fact that our language is changed doesn't mean we are not macedonians
Us speak Turkish??? over 400yrs the Turks couldn't change the Greeks! Where on earth are you getting your info from? lol You don't speak the language of the Ancient Macedonians so why call yourself Macedonian? Your language changed? Yeah! from Bulgarian! and was recoded to what you speak today, only 6 letters differ from Bulgarian! Its slavic for a reason, you are slavs and yes there is alot of you. So why can't you be proud with that? and stop stealing our history.
There's no difference between the French and English alphabet. Does it mean that French ppl are English ?? Are the Spanish Italian ? Not all nations on the earth are blessed to have your cuneiform letters!
They speak a completely different language! in case you forgot. They may have the same origins letter wise but are & sound completely different! I can read the Ancient Texts from Alexanders era can you?? Thats why your language is so close to Russian, Croatian Serbian, especially Bulgarian etc..because your language is of slavic origins NOT GREEK like the real Macedonians. Why don't you try & trace your family tree & see where you came from? but of course your government forbids that!
If you speak french or german or ask someone who does you'll realize that 50 % of the words on those language have the same root and are written almost in the same way but they pronounce different. ( possible, fatigue,hotel, appreciate ) and many other examples, than compared the french and spanish grammar - almost the same.( You're gonna say they are not different nations).
How do you know that bulgarian and macedonian are the same languages Do you understand Macedonian or Bulgarian. Macedonian and bulgarian are equally the same as serbian and bulgarian. All slavic languages have similarities but many different things too and are spoken by different nations that's why there is not one official slaviac language.
well there you go slav! different dialects of slav! Although there is only 1 Greek language now! by the way how does this prove that you are Real Macedonian again??? lol
Are the black people in the US British cause their native language is English. Isn't their origin African or maybe if you explore their family three you'll find out the Queen as their ancestor ?
??? what the hell is that supposed to proveor mean? You speak Slavic UNLIKE the REAL MACEDONIANS, thats the facts! Alexander united Greece, (which you are obviously unaware that Greece was comprised of city states at the time) and he invaded Persia as revenge for the years of brutality & invasions by the Persians in Greece!
Did you know that even in the bible it refers to Alexander as the Greek King??
The real Macedonians didn't speak greek at all actually I doubt that the modern greek is even similar to the ancient greek. Macedonians were different people Why the roman - macedonian wars aren't called roman-greek wars. How come now slaves to be proud of the guy who tortured them. That's insane!
you doubt it ?? you sound so sure lol! Macedonians didn't speak Greek???? Are you insane? All the physical evidence found including coins, on the tombs, historical texts ALL CONTAINED ENTIRELY GREEK TEXT. You clearly haven't even seen any ancient artefacts as you would be faced with the truth. You have obviously only been educated in your substandard schools, no point even continuing this as you don't even agree with some of your more intelligent leaders, that they WHERE GREEK & SPOKE GREEK.
About the ljubco's video. Who says that our language is not slavic or our names. I'm proud of that and I like it. Who says that we are clear nation is there clear nation in this world? Have you ever asked your nazi - teachers, parents, politics if the greeks are clear nation ? How many slavs were assimilated after the second world war? Why all those tanned people everywhere around greece, those tatar faces and albanian and turkish names ?????
there you go again your own version of history again?? Turkish names??
You are slavic & its clear the Ancient Macedonians where not! Stop trying to discredit Greece because no one pays attention to that communist propaganda. You call us Nazis as well? well you are so fucken brainwashed that you don't even know anything about ww2, the Greeks where the first to stand up to the Nazis you fool & the first victory for the ALLIES was from the GREEKS, Learn your history little boy.
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Ancient Macedonians were not greeks too. We're the only piece left of them and I think you should get over it.
Turkish names ? You are gonna tell me now that more than 30 % of your population are not albanians or turks?
You didn't fight against the nazs just british army came to greece and the tragedy is that british army had already lost the war so if there weren't your so hated Slavic Russian guess your country name HELLass would really fit the situation there.
So you should be grateful to slavs for saving you from the nazists and stop calling them animals. They are like 3000 years ahead than you oldes nation in the world loooool.
We've peaces of slavic and ancient genes ( none can deny it ). Parts of the both cultures. There are tones of historical heritage, we have this name for thousand of years. We proud of all of that name, tradition, heritage etc . We're gonna present it to the world and none can ban it .... cause it's all ours !
When do the greeks will confess that slavic or tatarian sperm penetrated to your women's fat pussy once in a while and you're not clear nation and it's impossible that one nation kept isolated all those years .
we never say that ! its you stupid gypsies that think you are pure breeds! We wouldn't touch your filthy pig lovin donkey whores anyway, they all stink, believe me I know. You all think you are pure Macedonians you are slavs who came here in the 6th century & have mixed sperm from all sorts of animals.
I never said we're pure nation I'm gonna tell you again. We're mix of slavs and ancient macedonians. It's you who are mix of animals and people .. that's why you're so special and differ to the rest of the normal people on the balkan.
you are the one who doesn't respect the Macedonians... why don;t u leave us alone and let us once forever to unify... greeks have nothing to do with the ancient macedonians they hated you just like the modoren one do today... macedonians had different culture, language and social system ... he was just amazed by the greek culture and after the wars decided to spread it all over the world ... THIS IS THE ONLY CONNECTION BETWEEN GREEKS AND MACEDONIANS
HOW CAN SOMEONE BE MACEDONIAN AND GREEK IN THE SAME TIME ... is it possible someone to be turkish and russian in the same time .... maybe your fahter is macedonian and mother greek
to be honest..... i don't know much about history. i don't know much about the the greeks or the slavs... BUT, logic tells me that alexander was born in the same country were Aristotle, Plato, Leonidas, Archimedes, etc. were born: Greece. I dont think he was slavic! that doesnt make much sense to me
you've right my friend.but we have a big problem with the slavs who live in Scopia because the say they are "the only related with Alexander the Great ,and Macedonia".that's not true.they are Slavs who came in the region at 600-900 A.C.Alexander the Great was Greek from the region of Macedonia,spoke greek,his teacher was Greek,and all these refer n the ancient texts we have found.But propaganda works well for the Scopians and they blame us.we want help from everyone! Good morning!
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You know, there is a lot of screwed fuckers in the world, that believe they are the ones to know or mean something just because they already saw a toilet and how how to pee in any direction... just like you, you stupid fuck :)
I bet you did not even finish kindergarten, cause you were to "slow", you fucked up donkey :) my shit has more intelligence than you do.
Kallisthenis was wrong! Alexander was right! Alexander was the King and not Kallisthenis! Kalisthenis tried to be smart and dictate to the Great Alexander except just advice! He was a fool and he lost his head for offending the King! So think before you say something always as to not offend anyone! Hail! to the Great Alexander!
jimpapa83 hahaha stfu you dickhead Gayreece is nothing.. just retarded ppl who think macedonia belongs to him.. Alexandar macedon .. just suck it.. alexandar was macedonian and will be..
Someone , should VISIT the IMPERIAL TOMBS OF MAKEDONIA to SEE THE TRUTH , it would do , for anyone seeking the trouth ... dont ask where it is ... IN PELLA of course the CAPITAL OF MAKEDONIA and GREECE ! its 50 Kilometeres from THESSALONIKI , GREECE , go visit , everything else is just crap .. oh FYROMIANS ? how come you dont have any Ancient relics there in your country ? How come NON of you has GREEK NAMES ? why are you speaking SLAVIC and ALBANIAN and BULGARIAN ? how funny are you people ?
Greeks : % 25 Real Spartans and Old Greeeks of Macedonian , % 25 Ottomans , % 50 Gypsies who kicked from europe till Ottoman Lands .. And english history makers published a new identification for that mix gypsies for fight against their lords Ottomans and they achieved two times 1820s - 1920s .. but ofcourse it is so pity about learn who is real new greeks for them but it is truth!
The 2008 Human Development Index was released last month.
Greece was ranked 18th in the world, ahead of Italy(19th), Germany(23rd), The UK(21st), New Zealand(20th), Israel(24th), and South Korea(25th). Slightly behind France (11th), Spain(16th), Denmark(14th), and Belgium(17th).
Now, where is FYROM ranked? They are ranked 68th! One of the Lowest In Europe!
this is diminutive proof that the FYROMians are Gyspie Slav dirty third worlders.
You FYRO-Monkeys are just,Gypsis,Albaniens and Turks and you will be a Makedonien?!Hahahahaha ..I can say which country is yours,close your eyes,and that what you can see,is yours!
If people would just open up a history book every once in a while, there wouldn't be a naming dispute. There's so much factual evidence of Alexander and the Macedonians being Greek, it isn't funny. The day of ignorance still reigns, apparently. I think this FYROM vs. Greece debate is taking place for far to long, and both our countries should try to resolve this gibberish as fairly and as quickly as possible.
Why everyone argues about Alexander. That was many years ago, and the that region went under many changes of borders and population throughout the history. The fact is that all the people who live on the territory which has always been referred to as "Macedonia" have every right to call themselves Macedonians. In Northern Greece we have two kinds of Macedonians: Greek and Slavic. But the matter of fact is that they both have the right to call themselves Macedonians.
They do not have the right for some reasons and let me politely explain them to you..your state is basicly consisted from boulgars that lived in northern macedonia(ex-paionia)for some centuries and are not greeks,also a much bigger number of greeks living in the territory conquered by greeks from the ottomans lived much more many centuries and are greeks so they want to be part of greece..they(as myself)believe that macedonia was and now is part of greece..if you want a descent country we have..
..all the mood to help you,but you firstly try to annex to your country our macedonia(and historically the only one),secondly you claim that you are macedonians while your cultour is basicly boulgar and slavian,and thirdly you claim a history as yours that you had no participation..greece fought bravely against all the barbarian and is insult for us people who hate greece to claim history that belong to our race..if you were speaking greek and had the greek culture then we would also believe..
..also believe that you are true macedonians..for example Cyprus is a descent state but the inhabitants are greeks because they love greece,they have te same language,same history,they supported always greece,and generally have the same culture..so they are trully cyprians because cyprus was ancient greek colony..so these people are rightfully descentants of the ancient citizens of the island..what do you have in common to ancient macedonians so as to call yourself so??
The region of Republic of Macedonia was always officially referred to as Macedonia ! In ancient times, in Roman times, in Ottoman times... And have you ever heard of Demosthenes? Or the battle of Chaeronea? That shows you that Macedonians were not any Greek !
First of all your country's name is not republic of macedonia but FYROM..secondly you are wrong..in the ancient times your territory was named Paionea and was inhabited ONLY by the barbarian Thracoillyrian race of Paiones..the ancient macedonia was ONLY the greek territory..the only ancient macedonian city in your country is Herakleia Lynkou(5% of ancient macedonia land)..when the Roman Democracy annexed macedonia ONLY then the whole territory was named"Province of Macedonia"..
that looks like some pretty good information. i like knowing about other cultures. how else will we all understand the compassion of others unless we understand their roots
Furthrmore you should also know that by the time that your land fell under the occupation of the Boulgar Czar simeon the byzantines stop mentioning this territory as Macedonia and named it territory of Ohrid..the Boulgar fortress name..and the greek territory was named "Thema of Macedonia" because even in the byzantine times the historians considered macedonia only the greek speaking territories..search it a little you will see that I am wright..
Furthermore if you use as an argument the battle in Cheronea what do you have to say for all the battles among the greek city states??about the battle in Lefktra for example..according to your logic so spartans are not Hellenes also..so you are wrong..Demosthenes was an Athinean anti-macedonian POLITITIAN!!YOU IGNORE ON PURPOSE ALL THE OPINIONS OF ALL THE ANCIENT HISTORIANS(SYRIANS,LATIN AND GREEKS)AND YOU REFER ONLY THE NAME OF A POLITIAN!!!
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Macedonia1ful 1 month ago
Macedonia was greek then it become MACEDONIA his own! By who? ALEXANDER. The books are wrong the facts are wrong!
thebestracer10 2 months ago
They says that the history's repeated. Do you know w? The history needs to be re-write once for all and the world needs to know the truth. Than will never repeated again.
puckase 5 months ago
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FYROM President Kiro Gligorov admits his nation is not related to ancient Macedonians
For anyone who has any doubt - this is the PRESIDENT of FYROM ADMITTING the obvious that his Slavic race population has no connection to Alexander the Great !
See the VIDEO on You Tube titled...
" FYROM President Kiro Gligorov admits his nation is not related to ancient Macedonians "
/watch?v=JBB8UjOHG_8&feature=channel_video_title
Achilles1389 6 months ago
Slavs and all the old tribes come from warm places .. some have migrated to the north, and later some came back, there were many reasons, climate change, combined with the dry years
dimges 8 months ago
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macedonians never was greek(Gypsies) ,Macedonia for Macedonians and Macedonia is one !!!!! . but you , england and USA have occupied 4 parts from macedonia !!!! -You do not recognize Macedonian minority . -You have occupied our macedonia of 4 parts . -even and This ''free'' Macedonia in which we live is occupied from NATO and EU !!! FUCK YOU And the lie are short legs!!!!!!
makedoniaPower 11 months ago
DID THE FYROMS CLAIM ANY EGYPTIAN HISTORY COZ OF ALEXANDRIA? THAT WILL BE COOL))
boycotte1 11 months ago
13alexander is right. FYROM's obsession with an ancient Hellenic leader is doing more damage to their authentic Slavic culture, and history than centuries of foreign rule.
Harrison776 11 months ago 5
U lick UK's dicks every day u pay them to do worthless things for u and still u are not winning. Macedonia for macedonians = Fuck Girogayrice
MKDAndrej 1 year ago
@MKDAndrej hahaha i am from England this is true, and macedonia is not greek it never was, nether was alexander 1913 - 2013 is all you need to know really.... its funny watching this video it looks like it has had £10 spent on it... do you hear how many times the actor says greeek greek greek
acemcloude 1 year ago
@acemcloude Ty for supporting macedonia , and i agree with u. These are bunch of stupid ppl who want to change history trough money. Well that cant happen my dear friends.. bb have a nice day :D
MKDAndrej 1 year ago
@MKDAndrej You speak Bulgarian dialect you live in the ancient Peonian land and you have slavic names and traditions but you want to be Greek(Macedonian) so badly that you spit on your own ancestors!!!
13alexander 1 year ago
@13alexander :O i dont speak bulgarian , its so different like u know it pff. I leave on Ancient Macedonian land and i have slavic name but that doesnt make me different person from my true Macedonian ancestors. There are 50% Ancient macedonians on this land and u canot change it buy youtube comments . Greeks are even more far away then macedonians. Alexander crushed greeks to the ground and fucked them in the asses. So if i am slav how can greeks be my ancestors , that means u are slav too..
MKDAndrej 1 year ago
@MKDAndrej
For this reason the Bulgarians can communicate with you, with their and your own mother tongue!
You lιve ιn ancient Paionian land, the ancient Macedonian land is IN Greece, check it, Google “Paionia” and “Macedonia_terminology”.
“There are 50% Ancient macedonians on this land” If you say so! lol
13alexander 11 months ago
@MKDAndrej
The point is that Greeks(Macedonians) can NOT be your ancestors, your language, culture, names, ways, traditions and anything else define your nation is Slavic, the Slavic tribes came to southern Europe at 650 AD, that is 1.000 years after Alexander and 1.600 whole years after the ancient Macedonians existence!
Ending, you have a funny obsession with anal-sex, certainly that have something to do with you!
13alexander 11 months ago 2
@13alexander but yet the ancient macedonians didnt dissapeard, they still leave on this land. U obviosly didnt learned that Alexander hated the greeks the most and u still take him as ure own , how can that be possible. And what is so wrong with slavs. Oh i know , its wrong that u are loosers. So if i am bulgarian or serbian or turk , u will still loose like u lost from alexander , like u lost from bulgarian , like u lost from turks and soon ull loose from macedonia.. But sure u live in the past
MKDAndrej 11 months ago
@MKDAndrej
My previous message proves that your land at ancient years called Paionia and NOT Macedonia, but you didn’t see a thing; you are totally blind from your country brainwashing!
Maybe Paionian descendants still live on your land. But if somewhere still lives Macedonian descendants is in the ancient Macedonian land that located in Greece.
Nothing is wrong with Slavs there are proud and brave people, the point is that you are so pitiful that spit on your own ancestors!
13alexander 11 months ago 3
@13alexander I claerly read ure previous message and u are totaly wrong , I am Macedonian and im proud of it. I dont spit on my macedonian ancestor , i spit on u stupid losers( greeks) Who are thiefs from their begging. I havent been brainwashed by any1. But it is pointless some1 to tell u stories coz its obvious u wont understand and u will always negogate. 1/3 of the world countries calls me Macedonian and my countrie is Macedonian. In that case 1 pittyfull countrie cant change that.. "Greece"
MKDAndrej 11 months ago
@MKDAndrej
Alexander at his troops before battles:
1. "WE SHALL FIGHT FOR GREECE AND OUR HEARTS WILL ALWAYS BE IN IT"
2. "For AS GREEKS we should not be slaves to barbarians"
3. "WE GREEKS are united by the SAME language, the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions"
4. Alexander to Persians: "Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece"
So decide; he was an idiot or you are a big joke!
Wake up history is not an object you can’t steal it.
13alexander 11 months ago 4
@13alexander Its clearly that u dont want to understand a fucking thing so i wont waste my precious time on u Macedonia for Macedonians Fuck the rest including Girogayrice with their hyp0critic nonsence. More than a half world calls me Macedonians and my land is Macedonia i shall no explane u more..
MKDAndrej 11 months ago
@MKDAndrej
Agreed Macedonia for Macedonians, but the point is that you are Slavs living in a Yugoslavian region north of the historical Macedonia that is IN Greece.
Your new country claim for a compound term that embodies the ancient Greek name Macedonia, the name “Pseudo-Macedonia” declares exactly your country!
You like it monkey-donkey?
13alexander 11 months ago 9
@13alexander Stupid Dude Macedonia has nothing to do with Girogayrice unhappy hppies. U only Stoled what is Macedonian u Killed what is Macedonian and u claim that for u re self like Turks did to ure Stambol. Yes i ama slav i am mixed but that doesnt make me not to live on Macedonain land. What are u. U are GIrogayreek inhabitant , u have nothing to do with Macedonia. U cant have , what u dont have. Enjoy ure life and spare me with ure worthless shits.............................................
MKDAndrej 11 months ago
@MKDAndrej
monkeydonkey i told you 100 times, historical Macedonian land is what nowadays Greek-Macedonia is.
Your pathetic fabricated country never was Macedonia.
If you monkey consider you self Macedonian, can you explain in your language, which you dare to call "Macedonian" (when factually is a SLAVIC dialect) the meaning of the ancient Macedonian names or the survived ancient Macedonian signs?
13alexander 11 months ago 5
@MKDAndrej You badly brainwashed pretender, right here and now, prove what you truly are and translate ancient Macedonian sings, if you can! ROFL
340 BC, location Macedonia(Greece), sign on the entry of ancient Macedonia palace (probably installed by King Philip) writes: "ΠΑΡΤΩΟ ΗΡΑΚΛΗ"
I can translate it because is Greek dialect, my mothers tongue
I challenge you FAKE-Macedonian, can you?
13alexander 11 months ago 2
@13alexander Ok u pathetic junk. Lets Clear this. If Macedonia was Greek. Why ure countrie nowadays isnt called Macedonia , If Macedonian language wasnt slavic but Greek why ure language nowadays is not called Macedonian. Explane me things as long as u want but u are FAIL always. But one is Fact u have the lead coz u stoled Macedonian land in 1913 and u are full of junks. Alexander's folt is that he didnt cut the fucking Greek hads when he had a chance so Fuck off Deepshit. Im slav and proud....
MKDAndrej 11 months ago
@MKDAndrej Let’s clear this; they are Greeks that live in the land of ancient Greek kingdom of Macedonia like me and Slavs like you that live at a part of Yugoslavia in the land of ancient Paionia that located north of ancient Macedonia.
Slavs came in south Europe at 6th century AD.
When Alexander conquered the ancient known world at 4th century BC, the Slavs like your self were at least 3.000 km away from the Balkans and they didn't even have discovered fire yet.
13alexander 11 months ago 22
@MKDAndrej Greeks understand the meaning of the ancient Macedonian writings because Greek language is very close to ancient Greek language and ancient Macedonian dialect was an ancient Greek dialect.
There are over than 2.000 survived ancient Macedonian writings in the museums all over the world, Any Greek can understand the meaning of them! Can you understand even a word?
Roman Strabon confirm "the Dardanians(Skopje) were a dirty tribe a whole different than the Makedones and other Greeks"
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@13alexander I have 1 more thing to say.. I didnt read ure comments , as well as god fucks u every night before momy tells u badstory
MKDAndrej 11 months ago
@MKDAndrej And about Alexander, just read two of his report to his troops before battles:
"We can move against the barbarians and liberate ourselves from the Persian bondage for as GREEKS we should not be slaves to barbarians" [Callisthenes]
"WE SHALL FIGHT FOR GREECE, and OUR HEARTS WILL ALWAYS BE IN IT" [Arrian]
Why is that difficult for a Slav-Monkeydonian to accept the straightforward reality?
My brainwashed friend, do you think that history can be erased?
13alexander 11 months ago
search google Macedonia name dispute wikipedia . i Thought it was 1/3 but it seems its more than half world..
MKDAndrej 11 months ago
@acemcloude You are from England? this is true!!! lol What the fuck r u retarded? don't u ppl have self respect? and why u monkeydonians started to claim for GREEK land after 1991? it was then after the breakup of Yugoslavia that u realized that u have no history and u came up with the idea of stealing some?
13alexander 1 year ago
@13alexander what the fuck????
acemcloude 1 year ago
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stupid greeks aleksander kill all greeks , but h glory hahahahhaha mother fucker . macedonia for the macedonians forever and united macedonia , vardar , pirin aegean will be one united macedonia that is new name for nato mother fucker
makedon1948 1 year ago
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GREECE IS BANKRUPT. BANKRUPT IS GREECE.
dexameron 1 year ago
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GREECE IS BANKRUPT. BANKRUPT IS GREECE.
dexameron 1 year ago
For the FYROManians...
There is not a SINGLE shred of evidence that any language (including Bulgarian, the base language fo FYROM) was spoken other than... guess what? GREEK! Oh Alexandros III claimed to be Greek, and Argead kings were accepted as Greek (Alexandros I participated in the Olympics). ΈΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΕΣΤΙΝ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ! ΑΙΩΝΙΗ ΈΛΛΑΣ! ΑΙΩΝΙΗ ΈΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ! χαχαχαχαχαχαχα! Oh, and I am not Greek!
iseeallforme 1 year ago
I am Macedonian and proud of it ...I respect and recognize your culture ...Are you to ignorant to do the same ...We are recognized as a nation by the world.. Get with the times and educate yourself before you speak ...You are making the Greek culture look like a disgusting people.. do your Greek culture a favor and stop ...
MustangCobra86 1 year ago
i love macedonia along with the rest of our history.
ELLADA !
sammygee17 1 year ago
I cant believe "macedonians'' these days are trying to relate themselves to the greeks just because they have no history. they are slavs!
Judgement2009 1 year ago
We are not trying to relate to the Greeks ..Far from it....We are our own people and culture we have our own language ...we are nothing like you....... we have a History ..
I respect your culture are you to ignorant to do the same.....
MustangCobra86 1 year ago
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Oi tourkoi apeleytherwsan oles tous tis perioxes k twra apiloun me tous simaxous tous to aigaio k tin kriti!!!!Kai kathos plisiazei k i deyteri ekdosi tou paixnidiou i skopianoi einai etoimi na mpoun me to onoma macedonia!!!!Mpes k esi sto game k voithise tin Ellada!!!.
w w w . erepublik . com / en / referrer / figthforyourhistory (vgalte ta kena)
SeNioRoTatOs 1 year ago
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ALBANIANS ARE The BEST FIGHTERS IN THIS PLANET LIKE THEIR ANCESTORS PELASGIANS AND ILLYRIANS.
THIS IS ACCEPTED BY THE ALL INFLUENTIAL SCIENTIFIC AND HISTORICAL CENTRE'S IN THE WORLD.
THELANDOFTHEEAGLES 1 year ago
Strabo
"Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". Strabo, VII, Frg. 9 (Loeb, H.L. Jones
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2005defender 2 years ago 73
@2005defender Why would you claim something yours....when it never was yours in the first place......
MustangCobra86 1 year ago
@MustangCobra86
The idea that Alexander the Great was something that belonged to our history was in the minds of some extremist political groups only! These groups were insignificant the first years of our independence, but the big problem is that the old Balkan Nations have been used to be legitimized through their history. In the Balkans, if you want to be recognized as a Nation, you need to have history 3000 years old
2005defender 1 year ago 2
@MustangCobra86
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So since you made us invent a history, we invented it! (…) You forced us to the arms of the extreme nationalists who today claim that we are direct descendants of Alexander the Great!
Denko Maleski, first Minister of foreign affairs of FYROM (1991 to 1993) and ambassador to the United Nations from 1993 to 1997, in an interview to Greek TV channel Mega, November 2006
2005defender 1 year ago 2
FYROM say the biggest lies ever!! In history there were genosides, lies and liers but never a race like Slavs didn't steal the identity of other race (macedonian - Greeks). Now it's time to happen this
TheGreekandrew1 2 years ago 2
I have one small proposition for all yugoslavian folks.Why don't you visit Vergina (located 50-60km from Thessaloniki) where the tomb of Phillip is.Then see out for yourself in what language is the text in the numerous relics there written.If you see any similarities with your language then let us know....
boulis87 2 years ago 4
@boulis87 We know we are a different culture than Greek ...We are not trying to steal your culture we have our own ...We are Macedonians ...We do not want to be Greek it seems your culture is trying to claim us as their own... You flatter us as a nation ,we know we are a great people ,but having the Greek want to claim us as their own tells the world we are a special unique Culture with a rich history.....
MustangCobra86 1 year ago
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Yes we do know!
You are Ethiopians ok?
WE R THE REAL MACEDONIANS!!!
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
lol Ethiopians are Egyptians not Greeks. @MAKGIRL333
MizzLoveable03 2 years ago
fucking porn the macedonia is greek before your country birthy oyst psola
capten2525 2 years ago 6
Fyromians are not macedonians. Why?
Macedonians were greeks came from the peleponissos and their migration to the north is well known occuring in the second millenium B.C!
Proof that you are slavic all your last names end with either
-ic: serbian
-ov: bulgarian
and my favoured one that shows how goverment maniulated you
-ski
They created that last one on you identities to hide your mostly bulgarian heritage during yugoslavia times.
MrDimitris 2 years ago 11
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Since the overwhelming quotes confirm the fact that the ancient Macedonians were not Greek, the Greek Internet pages purposely avoid them, as they have no way of explaining them.
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
macedonians like spartans ARE GREEKS.
Stop all this stupid lies.
You cannot change history.
It is written and everyone on this planet knows the truth.
You are slavs and not Greek.
makedonia = GREECE
TrueMakedonian 2 years ago 73
@TrueMakedonian the todays greek are the sons of the hellenes which fight against the ancient macedonians and the epirotes,,,you cannot claim on everything which has a similar language to yours,,,thats fascism shit in your head,,,do not claim on things you do not know
Truejustice100 1 year ago
@Truejustice100 You are so uneducated.
In ancient Greece their were Greek tribes like Athenians , spartans , makedonians etc. They had civil wars. Learn history , not SHIT !!!! LOL
TrueMakedonian 1 year ago
@Truejustice100 At least we can go back then, you who migrated there after the 6th century AD , how can you possibly claim that you have any relations to the ancient macedonians?
aguabas 1 year ago
@TrueMakedonian WE ARE NOT GREEK >>>>>WE ARE NOT SLAVS>>>>MACEDONIANS IS WHAT WE ARE and PROUD OF IT!!!!!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH THE WORLD KNOWS THE TRUTH STOP BEING IGNORANT>>>YOU MAKE YOUR PEOPLE LOOK BAD>>>>
MustangCobra86 1 year ago
@MustangCobra86
; WE on the contrary shall fight for
GREECE, and our hearts will be in it.
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,
Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe
Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt
Who is the LIAR Alexander or YOU???
2005defender 1 year ago 5
@2005defender that was more than 2330 years ago A LOT of things changed since then so drop it
Fr3aKBG 1 year ago
@Fr3aKBG
Read carefully my post again
2005defender 1 year ago
@Fr3aKBG read my post again.I said that modern macedonia have nothing to do with ancient macedonia except the name
Fr3aKBG 1 year ago
@Fr3aKBG
What you said is worthless,
Macedonia was and will remain Greek
2005defender 1 year ago 2
@2005defender lol sure even thought most of your population are not greeks anymore but its nice to believe in something
Fr3aKBG 1 year ago
@Fr3aKBG
whatever. it seems you know better, lool
2005defender 1 year ago
@TrueMakedonian macedonia = greece 2000000000 years ago lol
Fr3aKBG 1 year ago
@TrueMakedonian fuck you bitch
XEziOXxx 8 months ago
@XEziOXxx fuck off vardarskian pig.
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ = ΕΛΛΑΔΑ
fyro-vardarska = BULGARIAN LIKE THE LANGUAGE YOU SPEAK IN VARDARSKA.
CRY NOW MONKEY.
TrueMakedonian 8 months ago
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To the ancient peoples and to the ancient authors the distinctive ethnicity of the Macedonians was not a matter for debate - it was simply a fact.
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
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Alexander in greek is Αλέξανδρος=> Αλεξ - άνδρας => Αλεξ: suppress, keep away, Ανδρας:man
Hence Αλέξανδρος in greek means the person that defeats the men.
Philip in greek is Φίλιππος => Φίλος - ίππος => Φίλος: Friend, fan Ίππος: Horse
Hence Φίλιππος in greek means a fan of horses
I think we had enough of the scopjans. They need to shut up, they are getting annoying to everyone!
MrOlympiakakias80 2 years ago
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iGENEA, 2008
albania:
30% illyrians,15% phoenician,14% hellenen,18% thraker,2% vikings,20% slavs
greek:
10% germanic,10% illyrians,20% slavs, 20% phoenician, 5% macedonian (in north more then 18%),35% hellenen
Bulgaria:
49%thraker,11% macedonian,15% slavs,15% hellenen,5% pheonician
Macedonian:
30% macedonian,10% illyrian,15%,hellenen,5% phoenician,20% germanic,5% hunnen,15% slavs
ohh so greeks got more slavs then macedonian in procents, funny ha?
suzana006 2 years ago
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS YOU LITTLE SHIT? iGENEA is a fucking organisation selling PRODUCTS to "test" your identity. You idiot! They are making money out of ignorant fools on the internet you fucked up individual! Macedonians are Greeks, "Antique Macedonians" what the fuck? You are Slavs! Slavs came to the region in 6th A.D. century, Macedon Kingdom fall in 146 BC!!!!!! Uneducated fucking pathetic scum!
Paflos 2 years ago
and think like this.. greece had the sea as a benefit of all kind of trades from all kinds of countries, and whats the drawback for you pure raised greeks?got immigrants and you got mixed with other kinds of people, so dont talk shit about macedonian are not the real people, we got mixed and GOT the slavic words, greeks didnt want to change. in my words THE REAL PURE GREEK-MKD WILL YOU NEVER FIND,
suzana006 2 years ago
I am a Sicilian but not Italian
I am a Spartan but not Greek
I am a Californian but not American
I am a Queenslander but not Australian
I am a Macedonian but not Greek
Don't they all sound stupid a contradict each other!!!
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
yeah instead they get friendly with the Turks! 'The Butchers of the Balkans' which will backfire on them! The Turks have butchered christians for years and their fascist government thinks it they will help them! Proves how blind to the truth they are, and stupid.
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
Maybe they hate the christians but I understand them they are muslim. But how come greeks hate the other christians that much.
We don't expect them to help us but they're gonna fuck you that's for sure!
krstovski 2 years ago
lol nice lesson!
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
Histori chanel not laying!!!!!!!!
TheBogi994 2 years ago
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krstovski 2 years ago
They didn't unite anyone?? Try reading a book that wasn't published in your communist loving country you dimwit! It was revenge for Greece that Phillip & Alexander wanted to invade Persia for payback! You slavic ancestors didn't even come into the Balkans until 1000yrs AFTER Alexanders time! The only version of history that says they weren't Greek is in your country, what does that tell you???? Look at an Ancient Macedonian coin & see if can read the writing on it!
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
slavs came at the balkan and mixed with the other ppl here, so cause they were the majority on balkan all nations accepted the slavic language. I'm wondering why the greeks were the only ppl not mixed with the slavs, guess cause they lived in a ghetto, probably after 50 years you'll speak turkish but it doesn't mean you will lose your greek origin just like the fact that our language is changed doesn't mean we are not macedonians
krstovski 2 years ago
Us speak Turkish??? over 400yrs the Turks couldn't change the Greeks! Where on earth are you getting your info from? lol You don't speak the language of the Ancient Macedonians so why call yourself Macedonian? Your language changed? Yeah! from Bulgarian! and was recoded to what you speak today, only 6 letters differ from Bulgarian! Its slavic for a reason, you are slavs and yes there is alot of you. So why can't you be proud with that? and stop stealing our history.
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
There's no difference between the French and English alphabet. Does it mean that French ppl are English ?? Are the Spanish Italian ? Not all nations on the earth are blessed to have your cuneiform letters!
krstovski 2 years ago
They speak a completely different language! in case you forgot. They may have the same origins letter wise but are & sound completely different! I can read the Ancient Texts from Alexanders era can you?? Thats why your language is so close to Russian, Croatian Serbian, especially Bulgarian etc..because your language is of slavic origins NOT GREEK like the real Macedonians. Why don't you try & trace your family tree & see where you came from? but of course your government forbids that!
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
If you speak french or german or ask someone who does you'll realize that 50 % of the words on those language have the same root and are written almost in the same way but they pronounce different. ( possible, fatigue,hotel, appreciate ) and many other examples, than compared the french and spanish grammar - almost the same.( You're gonna say they are not different nations).
krstovski 2 years ago
How do you know that bulgarian and macedonian are the same languages Do you understand Macedonian or Bulgarian. Macedonian and bulgarian are equally the same as serbian and bulgarian. All slavic languages have similarities but many different things too and are spoken by different nations that's why there is not one official slaviac language.
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usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
well there you go slav! different dialects of slav! Although there is only 1 Greek language now! by the way how does this prove that you are Real Macedonian again??? lol
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
Are the black people in the US British cause their native language is English. Isn't their origin African or maybe if you explore their family three you'll find out the Queen as their ancestor ?
krstovski 2 years ago
??? what the hell is that supposed to proveor mean? You speak Slavic UNLIKE the REAL MACEDONIANS, thats the facts! Alexander united Greece, (which you are obviously unaware that Greece was comprised of city states at the time) and he invaded Persia as revenge for the years of brutality & invasions by the Persians in Greece!
Did you know that even in the bible it refers to Alexander as the Greek King??
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
The real Macedonians didn't speak greek at all actually I doubt that the modern greek is even similar to the ancient greek. Macedonians were different people Why the roman - macedonian wars aren't called roman-greek wars. How come now slaves to be proud of the guy who tortured them. That's insane!
krstovski 2 years ago
you doubt it ?? you sound so sure lol! Macedonians didn't speak Greek???? Are you insane? All the physical evidence found including coins, on the tombs, historical texts ALL CONTAINED ENTIRELY GREEK TEXT. You clearly haven't even seen any ancient artefacts as you would be faced with the truth. You have obviously only been educated in your substandard schools, no point even continuing this as you don't even agree with some of your more intelligent leaders, that they WHERE GREEK & SPOKE GREEK.
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago 3
About the ljubco's video. Who says that our language is not slavic or our names. I'm proud of that and I like it. Who says that we are clear nation is there clear nation in this world? Have you ever asked your nazi - teachers, parents, politics if the greeks are clear nation ? How many slavs were assimilated after the second world war? Why all those tanned people everywhere around greece, those tatar faces and albanian and turkish names ?????
krstovski 2 years ago
there you go again your own version of history again?? Turkish names??
You are slavic & its clear the Ancient Macedonians where not! Stop trying to discredit Greece because no one pays attention to that communist propaganda. You call us Nazis as well? well you are so fucken brainwashed that you don't even know anything about ww2, the Greeks where the first to stand up to the Nazis you fool & the first victory for the ALLIES was from the GREEKS, Learn your history little boy.
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
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Ancient Macedonians were not greeks too. We're the only piece left of them and I think you should get over it.
Turkish names ? You are gonna tell me now that more than 30 % of your population are not albanians or turks?
You didn't fight against the nazs just british army came to greece and the tragedy is that british army had already lost the war so if there weren't your so hated Slavic Russian guess your country name HELLass would really fit the situation there.
krstovski 2 years ago
The ancient Macedonians were Greek, is known to all historical university, Everyone recognizes that the ancient Macedonians were Greeks
DIONYSUSheIIas 2 years ago 2
So you should be grateful to slavs for saving you from the nazists and stop calling them animals. They are like 3000 years ahead than you oldes nation in the world loooool.
krstovski 2 years ago
@krstovski OMG slavs 'saved' us from the nazis????
seriously, get a fucking education moron.
you vardarskans are an ABSOLUTE JOKE of the earth.
nickvr93 9 months ago
We've peaces of slavic and ancient genes ( none can deny it ). Parts of the both cultures. There are tones of historical heritage, we have this name for thousand of years. We proud of all of that name, tradition, heritage etc . We're gonna present it to the world and none can ban it .... cause it's all ours !
krstovski 2 years ago
thats too funny for a response!
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
You have nothing to response cause this is all said in the videos you're sending me just you're trying to change it's meaning.
krstovski 2 years ago
When do the greeks will confess that slavic or tatarian sperm penetrated to your women's fat pussy once in a while and you're not clear nation and it's impossible that one nation kept isolated all those years .
krstovski 2 years ago
we never say that ! its you stupid gypsies that think you are pure breeds! We wouldn't touch your filthy pig lovin donkey whores anyway, they all stink, believe me I know. You all think you are pure Macedonians you are slavs who came here in the 6th century & have mixed sperm from all sorts of animals.
usaqamadeeq 2 years ago
I never said we're pure nation I'm gonna tell you again. We're mix of slavs and ancient macedonians. It's you who are mix of animals and people .. that's why you're so special and differ to the rest of the normal people on the balkan.
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krstovski 2 years ago
you are the one who doesn't respect the Macedonians... why don;t u leave us alone and let us once forever to unify... greeks have nothing to do with the ancient macedonians they hated you just like the modoren one do today... macedonians had different culture, language and social system ... he was just amazed by the greek culture and after the wars decided to spread it all over the world ... THIS IS THE ONLY CONNECTION BETWEEN GREEKS AND MACEDONIANS
krstovski 2 years ago
being macedonian isn't a decision it's a fact..
HOW CAN SOMEONE BE MACEDONIAN AND GREEK IN THE SAME TIME ... is it possible someone to be turkish and russian in the same time .... maybe your fahter is macedonian and mother greek
krstovski 2 years ago
shit up fakers you can do whatever you want but you'll never be macedonians ... just dream about it
krstovski 2 years ago
awesome vid !
Macedonia means Greece
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GRmegas 2 years ago
he hellenized the world
not slavisizing
BluAndWhiteArmy 2 years ago
Greeks I dont even know why Macedonians are still responding to ure world wide bulshit PROPAGANDA :P
PeonianMK 2 years ago
hohoho the whole world hates fyrom thats why they say macedonia is greek.get your head out of your ass and face the facts.
empirerulesall 2 years ago
to be honest..... i don't know much about history. i don't know much about the the greeks or the slavs... BUT, logic tells me that alexander was born in the same country were Aristotle, Plato, Leonidas, Archimedes, etc. were born: Greece. I dont think he was slavic! that doesnt make much sense to me
africanchina1 2 years ago
you've right my friend.but we have a big problem with the slavs who live in Scopia because the say they are "the only related with Alexander the Great ,and Macedonia".that's not true.they are Slavs who came in the region at 600-900 A.C.Alexander the Great was Greek from the region of Macedonia,spoke greek,his teacher was Greek,and all these refer n the ancient texts we have found.But propaganda works well for the Scopians and they blame us.we want help from everyone! Good morning!
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greeeko 2 years ago
U dont have not one clue slavs......We have thousands......MACEDONIAN IS GREEKKKKKK!!!!!!
Gamat0sikies 2 years ago 6
slavs live only in russia, in very small numbers, even most of the russians are cossacks
Dhaune 2 years ago
U dont have history,,,,,,,tell me one historical clue that you have before 1940....u dont wxist before then man......
Gamat0sikies 2 years ago
immigrants to america from this region have declared themselves to be macedonians since the 1900
matejom 2 years ago
ok...we say that macedonians are greeks thousands years ago.........lol.........fuck tito...
Gamat0sikies 2 years ago
So, Slavs live only in Russia?
And, Who lives in Serbia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, or the Czech Republic? And tell me... who are you?
mysofil 2 years ago 2
and who are you you retarded FAT UGLY FUCK!! JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!
Dhaune 2 years ago
You know, there is a lot of screwed fuckers in the world, that believe they are the ones to know or mean something just because they already saw a toilet and how how to pee in any direction... just like you, you stupid fuck :)
I bet you did not even finish kindergarten, cause you were to "slow", you fucked up donkey :) my shit has more intelligence than you do.
Have a nice day, asshole.
mysofil 2 years ago
Kallisthenis was wrong! Alexander was right! Alexander was the King and not Kallisthenis! Kalisthenis tried to be smart and dictate to the Great Alexander except just advice! He was a fool and he lost his head for offending the King! So think before you say something always as to not offend anyone! Hail! to the Great Alexander!
Jame243 2 years ago
jimpapa83 hahaha stfu you dickhead Gayreece is nothing.. just retarded ppl who think macedonia belongs to him.. Alexandar macedon .. just suck it.. alexandar was macedonian and will be..
sniffxo0 2 years ago
Someone , should VISIT the IMPERIAL TOMBS OF MAKEDONIA to SEE THE TRUTH , it would do , for anyone seeking the trouth ... dont ask where it is ... IN PELLA of course the CAPITAL OF MAKEDONIA and GREECE ! its 50 Kilometeres from THESSALONIKI , GREECE , go visit , everything else is just crap .. oh FYROMIANS ? how come you dont have any Ancient relics there in your country ? How come NON of you has GREEK NAMES ? why are you speaking SLAVIC and ALBANIAN and BULGARIAN ? how funny are you people ?
jimpapa83 2 years ago
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Greeks : % 25 Real Spartans and Old Greeeks of Macedonian , % 25 Ottomans , % 50 Gypsies who kicked from europe till Ottoman Lands .. And english history makers published a new identification for that mix gypsies for fight against their lords Ottomans and they achieved two times 1820s - 1920s .. but ofcourse it is so pity about learn who is real new greeks for them but it is truth!
tonyukukdelidumrul 2 years ago
The 2008 Human Development Index was released last month.
Greece was ranked 18th in the world, ahead of Italy(19th), Germany(23rd), The UK(21st), New Zealand(20th), Israel(24th), and South Korea(25th). Slightly behind France (11th), Spain(16th), Denmark(14th), and Belgium(17th).
Now, where is FYROM ranked? They are ranked 68th! One of the Lowest In Europe!
this is diminutive proof that the FYROMians are Gyspie Slav dirty third worlders.
MostToKnow 2 years ago
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..we were,we are and we will be!
Makedonia is greek and all the world know this!
You FYRO-Monkeys are just,Gypsis,Albaniens and Turks and you will be a Makedonien?!Hahahahaha ..I can say which country is yours,close your eyes,and that what you can see,is yours!
Alex291280 3 years ago
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Alex291280 3 years ago
Karakongul in order to have opinion you need to study first adn get the knowlegde which I personally believe you don't have.Start reading...
apsoutonas03 3 years ago 2
Alexander was Greek more than Athenians more than Spartans..
Alexander will be until the end of the world the symbol of Greece..
giannis116 3 years ago 10
pes ta re giannare +1:P
irondimi 3 years ago
oraios re john
kostasvolos11 3 years ago
Greek people never had a leader, or king. The system was not monarchy but republic.
Macedonia was monarchy. That's the bigest difference. For my openion the macedonians were thracians by origin.
karakongul 3 years ago 2
good point
illpyou 3 years ago
Sparta, Thessaly were all monarchies. Athens was the only Republic.
ptolios 2 years ago 2
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TO ALL SLAVS
•You never be Macedon because sometime in history you live in an area (who once occupied by the Greeks) and called Macedonia
•Macedonia as a geographic was before the Balkan wars and the dismemberment of Yugoslavia
•The name Macedonia has been since ancient times Greek
•You talk about Macedonia and do not know what the word "Macedon's" means
•To be a Macedonian you have to be descendant of Ancient Macedonians not to live just in a part of a land that they were living
divxakias 3 years ago
lol fyrom
fromgreecewitlove 3 years ago 12
If people would just open up a history book every once in a while, there wouldn't be a naming dispute. There's so much factual evidence of Alexander and the Macedonians being Greek, it isn't funny. The day of ignorance still reigns, apparently. I think this FYROM vs. Greece debate is taking place for far to long, and both our countries should try to resolve this gibberish as fairly and as quickly as possible.
AeroplanumMaximum 3 years ago 13
Can you tell us what Macedon means in Slavic because in the Hellenic language the meaning is the land of the tall greeks.Μακεδνός(makednos)=tall.
Nikechagias 3 years ago 8
Re syndrophe, eimai Ellhvas mwre!! Giati me rwtas emeva?
AeroplanumMaximum 3 years ago 6
Fucking hell, do the Vardarskans never stop lieing?
Before you'll even know, they'll claim Santa Claus and the Easter Rabbit come from their microscopic country too.
AeroplanumMaximum 3 years ago 8
"You should remember GREECE, for HER SAKE YOU undertook this expedition into Asia"
greeeko 3 years ago
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Alexander was an Albanian man.
tecavuzcuAYI2008 3 years ago
lol you're a dumbass!
ng1294 3 years ago 2
i understand heroine is addictive, but you should really quit...
nikosellinaras 3 years ago
R U ON DRUGS?
FYROMsucks 3 years ago
That "country" was named Macedonia only after world war II. Before that it was a part of Serbia state known as Podvardarije.
Kreshniku81 3 years ago 5
alexander is macedonian!!!
nepoznat132 3 years ago
which is Greek.
greeeko 3 years ago
Why everyone argues about Alexander. That was many years ago, and the that region went under many changes of borders and population throughout the history. The fact is that all the people who live on the territory which has always been referred to as "Macedonia" have every right to call themselves Macedonians. In Northern Greece we have two kinds of Macedonians: Greek and Slavic. But the matter of fact is that they both have the right to call themselves Macedonians.
fireboy2281 3 years ago
They do not have the right for some reasons and let me politely explain them to you..your state is basicly consisted from boulgars that lived in northern macedonia(ex-paionia)for some centuries and are not greeks,also a much bigger number of greeks living in the territory conquered by greeks from the ottomans lived much more many centuries and are greeks so they want to be part of greece..they(as myself)believe that macedonia was and now is part of greece..if you want a descent country we have..
PatrisYperPantwn 3 years ago
..all the mood to help you,but you firstly try to annex to your country our macedonia(and historically the only one),secondly you claim that you are macedonians while your cultour is basicly boulgar and slavian,and thirdly you claim a history as yours that you had no participation..greece fought bravely against all the barbarian and is insult for us people who hate greece to claim history that belong to our race..if you were speaking greek and had the greek culture then we would also believe..
PatrisYperPantwn 3 years ago
..also believe that you are true macedonians..for example Cyprus is a descent state but the inhabitants are greeks because they love greece,they have te same language,same history,they supported always greece,and generally have the same culture..so they are trully cyprians because cyprus was ancient greek colony..so these people are rightfully descentants of the ancient citizens of the island..what do you have in common to ancient macedonians so as to call yourself so??
PatrisYperPantwn 3 years ago
The region of Republic of Macedonia was always officially referred to as Macedonia ! In ancient times, in Roman times, in Ottoman times... And have you ever heard of Demosthenes? Or the battle of Chaeronea? That shows you that Macedonians were not any Greek !
NajgolemPacer 3 years ago
First of all your country's name is not republic of macedonia but FYROM..secondly you are wrong..in the ancient times your territory was named Paionea and was inhabited ONLY by the barbarian Thracoillyrian race of Paiones..the ancient macedonia was ONLY the greek territory..the only ancient macedonian city in your country is Herakleia Lynkou(5% of ancient macedonia land)..when the Roman Democracy annexed macedonia ONLY then the whole territory was named"Province of Macedonia"..
PatrisYperPantwn 3 years ago
that looks like some pretty good information. i like knowing about other cultures. how else will we all understand the compassion of others unless we understand their roots
bama1474 3 years ago
My friend whatever else you want from history you can ask me.
PatrisYperPantwn 3 years ago
Furthrmore you should also know that by the time that your land fell under the occupation of the Boulgar Czar simeon the byzantines stop mentioning this territory as Macedonia and named it territory of Ohrid..the Boulgar fortress name..and the greek territory was named "Thema of Macedonia" because even in the byzantine times the historians considered macedonia only the greek speaking territories..search it a little you will see that I am wright..
PatrisYperPantwn 3 years ago
Furthermore if you use as an argument the battle in Cheronea what do you have to say for all the battles among the greek city states??about the battle in Lefktra for example..according to your logic so spartans are not Hellenes also..so you are wrong..Demosthenes was an Athinean anti-macedonian POLITITIAN!!YOU IGNORE ON PURPOSE ALL THE OPINIONS OF ALL THE ANCIENT HISTORIANS(SYRIANS,LATIN AND GREEKS)AND YOU REFER ONLY THE NAME OF A POLITIAN!!!
PatrisYperPantwn 3 years ago
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Alexander will turn in his grave if he knew Greeks claim that he was Greek. By the way his name was not Alexandros, but Alexander.
fireboy2281 3 years ago
He has said this by himself you know..so study ancient texts first and then speak..
In Herodotus (Book 9, paragraph 45.2) Alexander I , king of Macedonia says:
"... I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery ..."
PatrisYperPantwn 3 years ago
you are right these cunts on here are retarts
r0bbiiee 3 years ago
You spelled "retards" wrong, just a heads up.
zreiscool 3 years ago