Derrick Pope - Moeller Technique

[gazbuck]

dude that is awesome!!! I have been interested in this technique for years & have never getting round to trying it. You have inspired me so much to practice this every day.....how long did it take you to get to this stage??? Love it!!!!

[alexfoxx60]

I agree with almost everyone. Your explanations are clear, straightforward, and very helpful. I'm so glad I discovered youtube and so glad that you have posted so many great lessons. I have learned so much from you. Thanks!

[cntrlengr]

Derrick, Thanks for this video! I will look at other videos too! I have been working on the Moeller for several weeks now. This helped quite a bit.

[cherrysgrowontrees]

this guy rocks he also explains it really easily too :) hopefully ill eventually be gd at it lol

[creedaniel]

well done man!

[plusff]

man i really apreciate your lessons, i've learned a lot of stuff, thanks

[ElBocadillo]

lol, hes got a practice pad on a djembi

[mandudebroguydudeman]

natural teacher

[strishmo]

you kick ass dude

[Motleybrewcrew]

you kick ass dude great teacher~~~ funny too!

[Gravyrecords]

One of the best explanations of this technique I've seen. I love the fact that there is no editing. Keep it up Derek.

[PinnSinn]

great teacher with great heart

[afesca]

I like the point about playing the two hands together to get accuracy...

[jeffbebe123]

all of your lessons are very well explained and detailed. this has definitely helped me. keep it up and make more videos!

[jeffbebe123]

all of your lessons are very well explained and detailed. this has definitely helped me. keep it up and make more videos!

[rafikmankarios]

Thank you for the enlightment!! Dave Weckl tried to demonstrate it...with much less success. Keep on drumming!

[krcsl]

Derrick, I've been playing drums for 58 years and teaching for over 30 of those years. I'm still excited as ever about playing and learning. This teaching video is one of the very best I have ever viewed. Keep up the outstanding work.

[bobbywasourhero]

Thanks so much, got really far with your lesson. Super teaching not just showing off....thanks again. Simply great

[bobbywasourhero]

After playing drums for 5 years without any teaching, I have learned more on 1 evening of watching these lessons and playing along on my newly bought electronic drums (Roland TD-6V).

Simply amazing what finger and wrist technique does. thanks a million.

[drumhyper2]

Thanks a whole bunch! I've watched alot of vids on how to do this technique but never quite got it all. I think I can do it with some practice now. You gave me the tools.Thanks again.

[jango66]

By far the best demo I've seen wonderful thanks very much.

[scooter146]

Great explanation of the Moeller stroke - thanks for posting it.

[pazzosev]

This is the Best break down of moeller I have ever seen. My Dad is Frank Severino, he showed me this 25 years ago. My dad had it down. Keep it up. Do you also know the open close techneqe?

[gitbox23]

Shall look forward to the update Derrick.

Keep up the good work.

[Bren28]

This is not how Jim Chapin plays the moeller

[djp132]

Yeah, I'm a little different.

Mr. Chapin doesn't put as much emphasis on the rebound as I do. Its a small variation on the major theme.

I'm hoping to do another moeller vid soon, I'll def make the distinction a little more clear.

[Bren28]

Great stuff Derrick look forward to seeing that as like all your vids...

[monkinator66]

that was very helpful. thanks for sharing. god bless youtube!

[bustamove196]

thanks a lot...excellent lesson

[gitbox23]

With all serious study of a given subject you should take from more than one source. I found that there are gaps here such as the moeller whip motion with the arms and hands. Jojo Mayers vid (secret weapons) explains this section in more detail that Derrick misses out on. There is also some more info to be taken from Dom Famularo's book "its your move" that again is not contained in this vid.

But on the whole this is the best single explanation of moeller.

[theunnamed88]

OH MAN!!! The clearest man in the world!!! Very good explaination!!

[tonno6866]

u r the best moeller teacher. I learn u more than other thanks and sorry for my english

[jaysuscrust]

It's cool you can do this but information like this is too good for the likes of you tubers. Good on yer anyway dude.

[razorboy6666]

is this the same as a tripple stroke roll? awesome vids man, learning so much from your straight foward lessons. finally someone who explains in simple terms of how to do things. keep up the videos !

[aguynamebirdy]

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ??? This is THEE CLEAREST EXPLANATION I HAVE EVER SEEN !!! This guy is a GOD SENT !!!! THANKS BRO !! Im gonna watch this EVERYDAY UNTL I GOT IT !!!!! Thanks bro !!! Younare the greatest help on youtube !!!!

[whynotjules]

Well, this guy is a genius!

So good explanation!

Very clear!

Very helpful!

Great to watch!

Keep up this great mission Derrick!

Greetings from Brazil!

[Flaitesexy]

this guy is a god of mastering people

[judetubecohen]

Just starting to drum at 34. This is the best explanation ever! Thanks Derrick!

[silvertone953]

awesome, thank you so much!

[underprog]

just get to the point... it cost me a lot of tym...

[frogswallop]

It's a complex technique, dude, a little explanation is more than welcome

[Nvirehk]

Excellent video! This is better, and clearer than any other Moeller technique video I have ever heard.

You explain everything incredibly clearly and in easy stage, thanks so much!

[evilnaabpower]

man thx alot it helps me so much

[07311964]

derrick, thanks for such a great video. i am learning how to play drums at 43 years young. I watch this video at least two times a week. and practice with you.

[whuataaaaah]

thank you thank you thank you, best explanation ever....

[dasmo]

i'm not a drummer nor nutin' but that was some cool shit. i play guitar and i felt like that's helped. moe shit from dat guy!

[underprog]

helped you from what? moeller cant helped your guitar skills...

[5nm]

Great vid. I have that same djembe :D

[stoob1969]

Great, great lesson. The only Moeller technique lesson I've really understood!

More lessons!

[ratzefuj]

Is this the HQ Real Feel Pad with Snaretrigger?

[jocato52]

Thanks Derrick for giving us such a nice thorough and conscientious lesson on this much misunderstood topic. Great job!!!

[ilkeristo77]

thanks.. thanks.. thank.. you are good man and good people.. :)

[goodbane]

I can guarantee you I won't forget his tip about left hand whips at 2:58.

Ever.

[heavyb4]

do you have to use traditional grip on your left hand?

[Placeman6]

Great lesson. Your a great teacher. Thanks.

[leesmiles77]

you must've had a really good teacher or you practice alot. or both.

either way, your amazing and you should be a music teacher. =D

[Bodofinglok]

You are a really fantastic educator.

[Ukagai]

uve opened my eyes dude!

im getting to practise on that straight away!

[DrUmSensitive]

I hurt my left hand badly when I was 6, had to keep it immobilized for over a year, making it stiff as a rock. I couldn't figure out WHY I couldn't play the snare other than hitting it really hard from above. Even my left thumb got screwed to the left, I hit THAT hard. Music school, private lessons, videos, nothing helped. I couldn't even control the left hand double stroke for longer periods.

Finally, with your video, I finally got it.

[brianmann01]

I taught myself drumming starting when I was 8 years old. That was 42 years ago. I wish so much I had someone like Derrick then. The one thing that becomes very clear after you have played in bands, its all about basics, and Derrick demonstrates this with very easy to understand techniques. He is giving you the secret to great drumming FREE. This and knowing your rudiments are a great start to becoming excellent. Great job Derrick, I bow to you.

[Faddrm]

five stars man!!

congrants from Argentina, great job

my girlfriend just get wet!

:$

[eugenekim321]

o.O

[CFMROCK]

Hey Derrick,

No special FXs... no great production but it sure deserves all 5 stars! :-) Thanks for taking the time to share what you know. It was a GREAT lesson. Everything is there... GREAT JOB!!! :-)

[mynameaborat993]

omg ur great dude step by step instruction. nothing like it on youtube. this is it.

[lrrllrllrr]

Thanks for the lesson, great stuff!

[jmiheli]

very good instuctions. Where did you study drumming?

[Bub2990]

great stuff... step by step...

[BladeOfRelief]

its times like these i hate being left handed...

[mini365]

thanks man!!

[ep1226]

Great video lesson! Audio sucked a little though when you started to go fast on some parts.

[hawaiiansnow420]

i only use 1 rebound

[IdiotValintine]

show us with real accoustic snares!!!

all i could think about when you're teaching is how it would sound on an actuallo snare

[gkdrummerboy]

THAN YOU, nobody in ANY of the other videos I've seen have told me I needed to let it bounce up naturally without restriction, this is better than Royster's explaination by far.

[camusicboy]

I have been playing along time and all this is good stuff but gee wiz,... being a great drummer requires a great beer and God knows Coors light isn't... for god sake... At least wear a plain shirt for the video.

joking.. in all this was a well instructive video for beginners to intermediate

[christofutofu]

Jim Chapin says its got nothing to do with rebound man, watch the video

[CMSdline]

How does Buddy Rich go so fast? Did he use the Moeller as well?

[tf8252]

Derric! You're great teacher...wow. I was struggling to pick up this technique from Dave Weckl's video...your's answers ALL the questions.

[richcapo]

Like Buddy explained it himself, he just moves his wrists really, really fast.

[bennystix]

Isn't the third exercise you are doing (when hands separate) the same as a fast paradiddle-diddle six stroke roll? I don't know if Derrick is responding, but if someone else can comment that would be helpful. Thanks.

[pastor1us]

by the way... not putting down your technique, seems effective and efficient (for the most part).. but it's not really the moeller techique

[pastor1us]

quote from jim chapin himself: "it [the moeller techique] is not dependent on the rebound at all." ........explain yourself. chapin of course was moeller's best student, so you'd figure he'd know what he was talking about

[cheezforlife]

In reply to pastor1us - jim was talking about the overhand match grip when he said that. Look at the video again.

[sabiansplash]

I find this technique very useful and I didn't know for a long time that I've been using this technique. My only problem is how to utilize it properly in doing rolls.

[ReaverKS]

I just bought a drum set the other day and this has been the most helpful video I've seen out of many helpful video's here on youtube.

[BraveMonsters]

I didn't understand how can i control rebound

[Mickdog2112]

wow excellent. great lesson.

[familiabipo]

dude please now do it with a snare drum to see it.

[Imsocool1004]

great lesson

[ceroterojo]

dude this is awesome, my teacher doesnt knows play moeller technique, i learn more here than with my teacher. thanx for this upload.

[franticUK001]

I have just discovered that you are never too old to learn something new. Cheers from a 37 year old self taught drummer!

[anjinsamurai1224]

Can I use this technique with matched grip on quads? My lead tenor keeps telling me to do some modified Moeller technique where I don't let my wrist move at all. It has the same whipping motion, just without allowing the wrist to move up or down. He describes it as just pretending your hand is dying. "Just let it fall and make the rebound." So can I use this technique?

[iskatefreestyle]

cheers dude your videos are really helpfull:]

[tklau]

Thanks for the lesson, DErrick. Nicely done

[FilthyPoetry]

I was wondering if you could do a video where you can explain how some death metal drummers get so much speed out of their fingers.

[slappedchimp]

a very thorough lesson from a very humble person. being a "rock" style drummer, i've always been reluctant to learn a traditional style for snare work. i'll try it and post my progress... wish me luck. great video.

[pretaanluxis]

when doing the Moeller technique in match grip, to control the speed of rebounds are you using the end of your index finger to control the bounce height or do you lightly touch the stick with your middle and ring fingers?

[richcapo]

Ask 100 people how to do Moeller and you'll get 100 different answers. Here (and with Weckl, Mayer, etc.), Moeller is nothing more than a "bounce" roll -- only one wrist/hand movement followed by bounce. For guys like Gruber, Royster, etc, there is much more technique involved: A whip, a tap and a release (not mere rebound). Relying solely on rebound limits the dynamics you can generate -- you really are at the mercy of the stick.

[djp132]

Excellent point rich. The way I demonstrate is not the one and only way to do it. I prefer to use the rebound and I've found that this does not in any way inhibit dynamics. Being at the mercy of the stick is not always a bad thing. :)

[richcapo]

I just watched Chapin's short video on Moeller. And, at high speeds, it basically comes down to this for him: A slight whip followed by two flickers of the wrist.

It's the same thing with "push-pull": Everyone has a different method (and a different "this is how BUDDY did it1" claim -- none of which resemble what Rich did, in my opinion. He just moved his wrists very, very fast). So many different ways to play. It's what makes drums great.

[wingnutrules]

Then in reality, don't you think you should clarify that what you're doing isn't Moeller? Lots of people want to learn it the way Chapin was taught. I know it may give you comfort to say "well there lots of ways to do it" . . .well, it turns out there's only one way to do it, any other way and it starts to be something else don't you think?

[djp132]

You do bring up a good point. I'll keep that in mind in future moeller stuff I do. Even Sanford Moeller himself didn't invent the "moeller" technique, he just applied what he learned from his teachers and mentors. Many people use the term "modified moeller" to describe more of what I'm showing, and you're correct, I am no Jim Chapin.

[wingnutrules]

You've always impressed me with your attitude and teaching style. I would suggest changing this vid. Wikipedia sources this video and lots of people who watch it seem to feel that you've done the best job explaining Moeller. I think they and future players should know that there's the chapin method which is closer/right on with moeller. it's baffling, even Britt teaches the stoke-two bounce as moeller, yet that's incorrect.

[wingnutrules]

I'll say this as well, I did learn the stroke-double bounce technique in this video and it still sounds awesome. Great speed. Very fast for me. So this vid helped with that. Like I said, I was just disappointed later that what I was learning wasn't what Chapin has identified as moeller. I don't know what the stroke/2bounce technique is called but it should have a name, the Moeller Hybrid?

[richcapo]

I call it a buzz roll, basically.

[bopdrummin]

Definitely the most lucid explanation of Moeller I have heard. Great clip!

[LinKzy]

i have no words to discribe! i just can say thank you very much man!

[rgvhen]

The most amazing video explanation of the Moeller technique I've ever seen. Thank you!

[pegame22]

Hey Derrick,

Great job, no one has ever put like that.Most people just doi it but can't break it down quite like that.

I've been playing for a while and I didn't know I could these things just by alternating tht triplet and such...any way thanks man. Mike

[littlephoenix1115]

that old school backgrip moeller style is somthing i learned from a jim chapin video... its really good for when i really need to play heavy and loud and cant avoid it or your a hard hitter... saves you from arm damage cause it keeps you from clenching the front grip... just somthing i thougth evryone should know

[666Ulysses666]

Thank you so much, I love not having to pay for drum lessons!

[RustyShaklferd7788]

yeah great video man!

[paradidlloff]

Thank you, excellent video and take hello from Croatia in Europe.

[mootomoo]

Excellent video! You have a great way of explaining things. I can't wait for the DVD!

[Dee603]

fantastic, thank you so much, I found this extremely useful!

[saxlamarakias]

excellent video, thank you

[garansbarans]

As a wannabe drummer, I think the drum world is loaded with guys who are truly excellent, and are just as willing to teach their skill. This guy is aces, really appreciate it. BTW, I use a drum pad on a counter top with a rectangle mirror against the wall to check for stick height and overall control and technique. Seems to help.

[littlephoenix1115]

a mirror and a pad is somthing every drummer should use when doing technique exercises

[Calbanese424]

one month ago: Watched this video for the first time- was nearly impossible

Present: After practicing around 20 minutes a day, I can do each hand almost as fast as derrick, both hands going at the same time is a little harder...

THANKS DERRICK FOR THIS AMAZING VIDEO TEACHING IGNORANT YOUNG DRUMMERS LIKE ME WHAT THIS TECHNIQUE IS!!

[stevestrong1984]

thanks dude this is a really helpful video

[qmarsticks]

Very excellent! Set me straight! Amazing service you've provided, appricated in all it's depth for sure!

[Kfrase33]

Thanks for posting your video. after I watched it, I tried it out and I'm actually getting the hang of it. :) It's the best video I've seen so far because you explain everything in detail yet keeping it simple.. I think that makes sense :S :) Anyways, Thanks again!

[buildadrumeppy]

Great vid' man keep it up.

[origonal]

genius

[husidrummer]

bit of a show off.

[drummerofdarkness]

joking? that was brilliant, the other great thing was he was confident and fluid on camera, you feel like your in the room with him.

[JUBALAKNE]

Derrick you rock man, Thanks for the advice..

[willV]

Love your videos. Can't wait for the DVD.

[frankdc]

That was by far the best and clearest explanation of the Moeller technique I've come across. Thanks Derrick. You've done a lot of drummers a great service.

[sellaseat]

Great explanation! Thanks for the tips!

[paolosyl]

Thanx Derrick great lesson. I would like a demo of you explaining multiple strokes 5..7..9...etc with the moeller method, getting away from those triplet figures. Regards!!!

[jeans72]

Wow this is great stuff! I've never seen anyone explain anything so clearly as you do. This is really going to help me with my drum technique. You've won yourself a fan! Thanx Jean

[joedrummer14]

Thanx!! That actually helped me

[andrevenas]

very goood

[nanteuil]

You make a DVD --> I buy it!!!

[ciforoso]

There's a lot of good players here on youtube, but it's really hard to see some one that teaches so nicely as you, keep on the good wotk dude!

[stitchkaboodle999]

i like what you're doing. Good luck!

[Lennypombouthescb]

Thank you Derrick. Best demo so far.

[jockrae66]

Derrick, where have you been all my life? Great video man, thamks...John Rae