The funny thing about lunar hoaxers is that many will not dispute that we launched the Saturn V into space yet they deny that we landed on the moon. Believing that is like believing that you can build a car that can go 250 mph but a car that goes 260 mph is ridiculous. As has been said before "If you can get your ship into orbit, you're halfway to anywhere."
The Saturn V was the true engineering triumph of the Apollo program. Landing on the moon was just frosting on the cake.
@TheJustRussian so your one of the idiots that can't except you were beat to the moon by the U.S. In this modern age we have technology that could see the specific spots on the moon where the astronauts landed. It shows evidence of the American flag the left behind and the lunar rover. Call that evidence?
Americans might have launched rocket, but there's no direct evidence they've reached and landed moon. Left aside "not so much'' reliable rocket engines you guys have back then. It's not your fault you never been there, russians never been either, but claming you were - is.
@TheJustRussian that's why we have all the videos and pictures of the moon along with the samples of moon rock stored away...yepp we've nvr been to the moon, ur so right.
Notice how the flames from the engines travel up through the launch tower and start to escape even before the rocket has cleared the tower. The flames look like they actually touch the side of the rocket just before it clears.
At :30 there appears to be fire and then puffs of smoke where the second and third stages meet. It's at the tower's third swing arm (where the rocket starts to narrow).
Just a couple years ago, on a plane to Washington DC, apparently John Young was sitting in first class and I didn't notice. My dad told me after we got off the plane, and said he didn't tell me earlier because he was too nervous. I died a little inside, because I missed the chance to talk to my single favorite Astronaut.
If this was fake, there is no way in hell the government could have kept so many people quiet about it. The fact that no official has ever come forward in 52 years to say that the moon landings were faked pretty much proves it.
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I would bet a million that this was not launched in Cape Carnaval.. Looks like the area where the Soyuz rockets are launched..(kazakstan). Just saying.
@Geneparmesan1 Indeed it is and clearly less weight but as I did not grow up watching Apollo launches and am only familiar with shuttle launches, it's still remarkable to see.
I know for a fact that the Apollo moon landings were real. I worked for Mission Control in Houston for various Apollo missions. They were in no way faked. Just look at the telemetry coming from the Moon to Earth-it takes 17.4 seconds for a signal to reach the Earth from the Moon. If it were faked and was done on a sound stage on Earth, the signal would have come in in a nano-second! I and others would have caught that for sure! Crazy conspiracy theorists...
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It is not. There is military electrogravitics systems that are classified, that are light years beyond internal combustion, and all its noise and pollution and slowness, that is not in the public domain, excepot the B2 Spirit Stealth Bober, and some other advanced field propulsion platforms. The work of John Searl, my boss, comes to mind. Searl Magnetics, Inc, just opened up in California.
@Beamshipcaptain That may be so, but they are not used. The Soyuz has a near perfect record, and is basicly what's keeping the ISS program alive.
I am certain there are much more advanced ideas and possible even test-vehicles, but the fact remain that presently our link to space is a fourty-five year old design. Of course, since China has now demonstrated their ability to send a man into orbit, and return him, the rest of the world might see the nescessity to rejuvenate their space-programs.
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@LarS1963 Only PRIVATE INDUSTRY can get us into space safer, better, MUCH LESS EXPENSIVELY, and safer. I am head of R & D for Searl Aerospace. Intern combustion has been dead for 60 years.
@LarS1963 Thanks. We are doing our best everyday, to make sure YOU have clean-cheap, limitless energy, and can get into space cheaper, faster, safer than NASA or the Russian Space Agency, or the Chinese. We can use it to get you from New York to Tokyo in 25 minutes, or less. At FAR less cost, also. No fuel. No pollution. COLD instead of heat. No noise. No vibration. FORCEFIELD propulsion.
@40390576 Get the books: SECRETS OF ANTIGRAVITY PROPULSION(2008), by PA LaViolette, available everywhere, and also ELECTROGRAVITICS II by Thomas Valone, PhD. Look at the source papers, patents, and working hardware in there, some of which I successfully recreated in the 1990s. Payload carrying ability has been demonstrated world wide, see Jln labs website, and vacuum function is shown to be MORE efficient, from the 1950s, to Honda R & D in Japan today.
@40390576 No that is NOT true. Floyd Sweet's VTA was examined and tested in Lab conditions. Also the Bedini converter, Newman Motor, Kromrey with Brandt-Tesla converter, a score of them. I kindly suggest you do some research instead of making uninformed statements.
@40390576 Searl effect has been demonstrated in controlled experiments at Sussex University. Many SEGs built, 41 flying craft flown. I built a nin-footer craft, and demonstrated it and lectured with my boss and Team Searl at TESLA TECH 2010, end of July in Albuquerque New Mexico. A 10- foot P-11 model was flight tested in California in 1977 at Edwards AFB.
This is probably the only good thing that came out of Nazi Germany. Not at all forgetting the 400,000 Americans that were working on this at the height Apollo. But seriously, how much of a setback would it have been if we hadn't gotten any German scientists at the end of the war?
extremist123 its more or less about power to weight ratios for vertical lift-off. for every pound of rocket, payload and fuel as payload it required 4 pounds of fuel. the shuttle weighs 4.5 million pounds,has 5.6 million pounds of thrust. the saturn 5 weighed 6.6 million pounds and had 7.6 million pounds of thrust. the 2nd and 3rd stages are about the same length as the orbiters fuselage and still had another 1,000,000 pounds of thrust to break earths orbit.
@Unabomber2 Occasionally a lot. We talk about acoustic pressures of up to 1 Megabel. A military jet airplane makes some tiny 200-250 decibel, which is not more than a hum compared to a Saturn V.
Next mission has been cancelled over 6 billion short. So when will man go back to the moon? 60 years 100 years? You dim-wits will believe anything you are told. The mision was a fake!
They never went to the moon. The evidence of a hoax is crushing. Do YouTube searches on "Moonfaker" and "Apollo 15 flag waving". Do a Google Video search on "What happened on the Moon".
@ftutbs i just dont understand how they have enough fuel...i mean a shuttle has that gigantic compartment for millions of pounds of fuel...how much bigger is this rocket that a space shuttle?
@extremists123 At ~36 stories tall, the Saturn V was almost twice the height of a Space Shuttle on the launch pad. To this day, it's still the largest and arguably most complex machine ever built by man.
@tawnos178 And the safest. No Apollo Launcher of Re-entry vehicle suffered a failure on launch or re-entry! Even Apollo-13 when I was 9 years old got home safely!
Actually the russian Soyuz system is considered the safest and also the most cost-efficient way to send people into space.
It would seem some wrong descisions were made along the way, since a launch-vehicle and space-craft that was originally developed in the mid-sixties, is still considered top-notch today.
@extremists123 At ~36 stories tall, the Saturn V was almost twice the height of a Space Shuttle on the launch pad. To this day, it's still the largest and arguably most complex machine ever built by man.
@ftutbs dweb the launch was real the orbit was real they are sayin the landing on moon was fake. if you dont now the differance it prvoes your stupid.
@jenson1575 im well aware of that.im also well aware that the evidence that moon hoaxers have is weak.they grasp at videos of the antennas on the spacesuits flashing saying "they're hanging by wires"or"they couldnt survive the radiation of the van alan belts"or "they found ancient alien ruins" blaa blaa blaa.why cant they just take the apollo program for what it was?it was real,it was what it was.it was reaping of one of the worse weapons of greatest war ever fought that still go on to this day.
@ftutbs Fake? Nobody said the Saturn rocket was fake. Its the moon landing which people say was fake, and I agree with them. If it was not fake then why do they not continue to go to the moon? Its american, when they do something, like go to the moon, they will always go to the moon, especially to do some scientific experiments, but they do not, why? because they never went. They only hoaxed it just so they can say that they beat the Russians.
@nvstewart boy ol boy...I got two paths see? ... the first one involves driving a school bus across your front lawn while I'm standing in the open doorway and pretend pissing, of course at that point no one is driving the bus and I unfortunately crunch several of your lawnchair seated toothless kin into the grassless front yard petunia patch (near nephew Henries chunky vomit chunks).
The other path involves violently throwing a often mentioned 27 lb. book (star of "throw the book at him")
@nvstewart Well, you weren't there - I was. I worked for NASA if anything were "fake" I would have known about it-and many others. Why fake it six times? They have recently pointed the Hubble space telescope at various lunar landing sites-the Descent Stage of the LEMs are there, as are the spring-loaded flags-with footprints. C'mon give it a break. Telemetry doesn't lie. CGI didnt exist back then nor did video games. PC's were only found on Star Trek! I assure u, it was real! I was there!
Dude, dont forget, the apollo program costs 20 billion dollars. Besides, we were already beating the russians with the first docking, first manned rendezvous, first 2 manned docking, first 2 man space walk, first manned launch of a LEM, first men in a LEM is space, i can name alot more than that.
@ftutbs Maybe because the whole think looks exactly like the German movie "Frau im Mond" woman on the moon. The director of that movie went to America too after the war by the way.
@ftutbs - You will find that only the people who can not comprehend or understand science will term this as fake. Since they dont know how this all can happen, they question everyone else's intelligence.
when NASA was formed in 1958, it only took 11 years to land on the moon. We have a 50-year advance on that technology,and the Searl Effect Generator, or SEG, which NASA is aware of (Dr. Arthur Cain at NASA was on the Searl team in 1972),and the Inverse Gravity Vehicle flight frames (called Levity Disks back in the day) is a VTOL concept, that uses no fuel,and can go MUCH faster than any rocket,right up to the speed of light and probably beyond 'c' (Alcubierre,1994),because it has no inertia.
Would it be possible to modify the shuttle to make it capable of going to the moon and doing lunar orbit? Perhaps with a payload?? Perhaps with a lunar lander in it's payload?
the real problem with a shuttle coming back from the moon would be re-entry. it would be coming back to earth twice as fast than if it was just in orbit. thats why a small capsule is a better design for moon mission. von braun wanted to build a single stage rocket but was convinced later that a muti -stage rocket was the only way with all the fuel they would have to carry.the only thing from the whole entire rocket assembly that came back was the command module. and it weighed only 12000 pounds.
Much more impressive then those death trap shuttles, 14 lives lost compared to 3 in 1967, and for what? To haul shit into orbit...Even the Ruskies still use rockets..hey it's just an opinion, but if something works stick with it
I agree the shuttle isn't the best option for safety but look at it in the long run: The shuttle is the heavy lifter for building the ISS. The ISS will be used heavily for study on effects of space on humans for long duration space flights.
The Moon and back isn't long duration. It's a wonderful achievement but it's a far easier target than Mars.
A successful mission to Mars and back will require much more understanding than we have today.
awesome.... what it must have been like to be sat atop that amount of power...wow
MrRadiorobot 3 weeks ago
the most badass rocket of all time ..gotta love that huge flame liftn it of the ground..
Spionsilver 1 month ago
I prefer Jack King doing the countdowns for Apollo myself.
MarauderOSU 1 month ago
The funny thing about lunar hoaxers is that many will not dispute that we launched the Saturn V into space yet they deny that we landed on the moon. Believing that is like believing that you can build a car that can go 250 mph but a car that goes 260 mph is ridiculous. As has been said before "If you can get your ship into orbit, you're halfway to anywhere."
The Saturn V was the true engineering triumph of the Apollo program. Landing on the moon was just frosting on the cake.
TheBinaryNomad 3 months ago 2
I love these machines.
3 million kilo's of awesome racing into the sky.
Very jealous that Americans can say they did this and a terrible shame that the world economy is prohibiting further space exploration.
Flyberius 3 months ago
@TheJustRussian so your one of the idiots that can't except you were beat to the moon by the U.S. In this modern age we have technology that could see the specific spots on the moon where the astronauts landed. It shows evidence of the American flag the left behind and the lunar rover. Call that evidence?
craziesrus1 3 months ago 2
Americans might have launched rocket, but there's no direct evidence they've reached and landed moon. Left aside "not so much'' reliable rocket engines you guys have back then. It's not your fault you never been there, russians never been either, but claming you were - is.
TheJustRussian 3 months ago
@TheJustRussian that's why we have all the videos and pictures of the moon along with the samples of moon rock stored away...yepp we've nvr been to the moon, ur so right.
ThEMuSiCGoD474 3 months ago
@TheJustRussian like i said fake videos and forged photo, and god knows what rocks. Yeah you got it.
TheJustRussian 3 months ago
Completely Awesome . . . The Mars Rocket will also kick !
tuberousness 4 months ago
that's not John King doing launch commentary is it? Beautiful sight..
irish89055 4 months ago
I wonder what would Von Braun would think of NASA and it's newest outreach philosophy? I imagine he would be sad.
gekko14 4 months ago
I was there! I was only 3 years old but I can still remember the sound of the Saturn V and also our dog jumping back in the car.
It's kind of like the sound of conspiracy theorists fapping to Megan Fox pictures. But a lot louder and it lasts way longer.
patton303 5 months ago
Kerosine, KEROSINE & liquid oxygen 1st stage rocket fuel ! ..7+ million pounds of thrust . . .
jimbowie09 5 months ago
@jimbowie09 lol, yeah actually closer to 8 million
MightySaturn5 4 months ago
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jimbowie09 5 months ago
Notice how the flames from the engines travel up through the launch tower and start to escape even before the rocket has cleared the tower. The flames look like they actually touch the side of the rocket just before it clears.
krosero 6 months ago
At :30 there appears to be fire and then puffs of smoke where the second and third stages meet. It's at the tower's third swing arm (where the rocket starts to narrow).
krosero 6 months ago
@krosero That's crygenic material, mostly water ice shaking off the rocket. This ice builds up around the boil-off vents for the LOX and LH2.
And believe me, those rockets SHOOK.
pmf71 5 months ago
Wow, simply amazing!
heavybubble41 6 months ago
The greatest achievement of America was the fact they put the word "HOAX"next to the name "Moon" in all the encyclopedias and dictionaries.
potrodsas 7 months ago
The day b-4 my 1st b-day.
CadillacL 8 months ago
This makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.
ChrisPenta 8 months ago
Just a couple years ago, on a plane to Washington DC, apparently John Young was sitting in first class and I didn't notice. My dad told me after we got off the plane, and said he didn't tell me earlier because he was too nervous. I died a little inside, because I missed the chance to talk to my single favorite Astronaut.
Tyrannobeast 9 months ago
@Tyrannobeast
What a blow... I'd like to meet Lovell.
lukequixotesanjose 7 months ago
If this was fake, there is no way in hell the government could have kept so many people quiet about it. The fact that no official has ever come forward in 52 years to say that the moon landings were faked pretty much proves it.
jetfreak4 9 months ago
This is Thrust!!!
kzbxvz 10 months ago
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I would bet a million that this was not launched in Cape Carnaval.. Looks like the area where the Soyuz rockets are launched..(kazakstan). Just saying.
11AMERICANO11 11 months ago
FAKE!
BRUTUALTRUTH 11 months ago
@BRUTUALTRUTH
you should watch STS 134 or 135 and you will change your mind.
Tristan14578 11 months ago
@Tristan14578 You cam watch Star Trek sonny boy; seeing that you believe in it! :D
BRUTUALTRUTH 11 months ago
@BRUTUALTRUTH No, no-YOU`RE fake.
25411959 11 months ago
I'm always amazed at how much slower these move off the tower than todays space shuttles.
veneziablau 11 months ago
@veneziablau the space shuttle is less than half the size of the Saturn V
Geneparmesan1 11 months ago
@Geneparmesan1 Indeed it is and clearly less weight but as I did not grow up watching Apollo launches and am only familiar with shuttle launches, it's still remarkable to see.
veneziablau 11 months ago
I know for a fact that the Apollo moon landings were real. I worked for Mission Control in Houston for various Apollo missions. They were in no way faked. Just look at the telemetry coming from the Moon to Earth-it takes 17.4 seconds for a signal to reach the Earth from the Moon. If it were faked and was done on a sound stage on Earth, the signal would have come in in a nano-second! I and others would have caught that for sure! Crazy conspiracy theorists...
59Skott 11 months ago
2800 tonnes lifting straight up, wish I could have seen it and heard it...
schumifan78 11 months ago
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The moon missions were faked in a studio. Here's a link to some of the evidence.
3W's (dot) spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showthread (dot) php?t=144487
Cosmored2 1 year ago
Those who say these are scams are idiots.Idiots have always existed, but now they just are on the Internet.
MrJanimro 1 year ago
FIRE! AND HONKY-PROOF! MIKE 'S! I SUSPECT! BUT THEN! I WOULD! NOW! WO ULDN'T! I!
*MIKE SPENCE.
mrmikespence1964 1 year ago
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dinoloverist 1 year ago
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It is not. There is military electrogravitics systems that are classified, that are light years beyond internal combustion, and all its noise and pollution and slowness, that is not in the public domain, excepot the B2 Spirit Stealth Bober, and some other advanced field propulsion platforms. The work of John Searl, my boss, comes to mind. Searl Magnetics, Inc, just opened up in California.
Beamshipcaptain 1 year ago
@Beamshipcaptain That may be so, but they are not used. The Soyuz has a near perfect record, and is basicly what's keeping the ISS program alive.
I am certain there are much more advanced ideas and possible even test-vehicles, but the fact remain that presently our link to space is a fourty-five year old design. Of course, since China has now demonstrated their ability to send a man into orbit, and return him, the rest of the world might see the nescessity to rejuvenate their space-programs.
LarS1963 1 year ago
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@LarS1963 Only PRIVATE INDUSTRY can get us into space safer, better, MUCH LESS EXPENSIVELY, and safer. I am head of R & D for Searl Aerospace. Intern combustion has been dead for 60 years.
Beamshipcaptain 1 year ago
@Beamshipcaptain Well, good luck then.
LarS1963 1 year ago
@LarS1963 Thanks. We are doing our best everyday, to make sure YOU have clean-cheap, limitless energy, and can get into space cheaper, faster, safer than NASA or the Russian Space Agency, or the Chinese. We can use it to get you from New York to Tokyo in 25 minutes, or less. At FAR less cost, also. No fuel. No pollution. COLD instead of heat. No noise. No vibration. FORCEFIELD propulsion.
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LarS1963 1 year ago
7.7 million pounds of thrust! WOW!!
lander4545 1 year ago
Apollo 16 is my favorite Saturn V Mission and Crew!
dinoloverist 1 year ago
@dinoloverist mine was apollo one
datzfast 1 year ago
Awesome rocket. Those idiots, who doubt Moon landing don't realize, that this rocket is a greater achievement than the actual Moon trip.
People who lived i those times understand.
zvast 1 year ago
"Do you actually have a.....feel sorry for you."
That was a good show of rhetoric but you didn't address any of the hoax evidence. Why don't you go over to this thread...
3W's (dot) spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showthread (dot) php?t=144487
(CHECK LINK FOR GAPS)
...and we can discuss the actual evidence?
Cosmored 1 year ago
@40390576
Okay, okay...addendum: the largest, most complex WORKING machine ever made.
tawnos178 1 year ago
@40390576 Get the books: SECRETS OF ANTIGRAVITY PROPULSION(2008), by PA LaViolette, available everywhere, and also ELECTROGRAVITICS II by Thomas Valone, PhD. Look at the source papers, patents, and working hardware in there, some of which I successfully recreated in the 1990s. Payload carrying ability has been demonstrated world wide, see Jln labs website, and vacuum function is shown to be MORE efficient, from the 1950s, to Honda R & D in Japan today.
Beamshipcaptain 1 year ago
@40390576 No that is NOT true. Floyd Sweet's VTA was examined and tested in Lab conditions. Also the Bedini converter, Newman Motor, Kromrey with Brandt-Tesla converter, a score of them. I kindly suggest you do some research instead of making uninformed statements.
Beamshipcaptain 1 year ago
@40390576 Searl effect has been demonstrated in controlled experiments at Sussex University. Many SEGs built, 41 flying craft flown. I built a nin-footer craft, and demonstrated it and lectured with my boss and Team Searl at TESLA TECH 2010, end of July in Albuquerque New Mexico. A 10- foot P-11 model was flight tested in California in 1977 at Edwards AFB.
Beamshipcaptain 1 year ago
This is probably the only good thing that came out of Nazi Germany. Not at all forgetting the 400,000 Americans that were working on this at the height Apollo. But seriously, how much of a setback would it have been if we hadn't gotten any German scientists at the end of the war?
GliTCH11 1 year ago
Is it normal that it is slanting a bit as it takes off?I know the engines must have gimbled to correct.
t5239857289578947594 1 year ago
extremist123 its more or less about power to weight ratios for vertical lift-off. for every pound of rocket, payload and fuel as payload it required 4 pounds of fuel. the shuttle weighs 4.5 million pounds,has 5.6 million pounds of thrust. the saturn 5 weighed 6.6 million pounds and had 7.6 million pounds of thrust. the 2nd and 3rd stages are about the same length as the orbiters fuselage and still had another 1,000,000 pounds of thrust to break earths orbit.
ftutbs 1 year ago
I can't believe it's been more than 38 years as of today...WOW!!!:)
Chrisjr2007 1 year ago
I think the camera man fell asleep. He forgot to pan up as the rocket lifted. Dumbass!
journeyquest1 1 year ago
This particular camera was fixed.
Krapenhoeffer 1 year ago
How much damage has that tower after a launch?
Unabomber2 2 years ago 2
@Unabomber2 Occasionally a lot. We talk about acoustic pressures of up to 1 Megabel. A military jet airplane makes some tiny 200-250 decibel, which is not more than a hum compared to a Saturn V.
marcus3003 2 years ago
The lower stage of the Saturn 5 had five main engines, 4 gymbaled, and i fixed, in the center. They produced over 7 million pounds of thrust.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
Next mission has been cancelled over 6 billion short. So when will man go back to the moon? 60 years 100 years? You dim-wits will believe anything you are told. The mision was a fake!
UNTC321 2 years ago
@UNTC321
Which one of the 6 moon landings are you refering to when you say "the" mission?
You do know therewere 6 manned moon landings right queer?
TheJomogogo 2 years ago
AWESOME
dechm4af 2 years ago 7
a masterpiece!!!
thx wernher von braun
1car2die4 2 years ago 51
@1car2die4 yeah!
dizzypilots1 6 months ago
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They never went to the moon. The evidence of a hoax is crushing. Do YouTube searches on "Moonfaker" and "Apollo 15 flag waving". Do a Google Video search on "What happened on the Moon".
Cosmored 2 years ago
everytime i watch these launchs im freekin amazed. how can anyone think this was all fake
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Dont think its a matter of outerspace as fake its man landing on the moon as fake but thats just my guess
Shoshin420 2 years ago
More people looking at this website believe in the purported 'secret' Apollo 20 mission than the ones that actually occured -go figure :-)
PatGleeson123 2 years ago
@ftutbs i just dont understand how they have enough fuel...i mean a shuttle has that gigantic compartment for millions of pounds of fuel...how much bigger is this rocket that a space shuttle?
extremists123 1 year ago
@extremists123 At ~36 stories tall, the Saturn V was almost twice the height of a Space Shuttle on the launch pad. To this day, it's still the largest and arguably most complex machine ever built by man.
tawnos178 1 year ago
@tawnos178 And the safest. No Apollo Launcher of Re-entry vehicle suffered a failure on launch or re-entry! Even Apollo-13 when I was 9 years old got home safely!
Beamshipcaptain 1 year ago
@Beamshipcaptain
Actually the russian Soyuz system is considered the safest and also the most cost-efficient way to send people into space.
It would seem some wrong descisions were made along the way, since a launch-vehicle and space-craft that was originally developed in the mid-sixties, is still considered top-notch today.
Source: ESA, BBC and MSNBC.
LarS1963 1 year ago
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@extremists123 At ~36 stories tall, the Saturn V was almost twice the height of a Space Shuttle on the launch pad. To this day, it's still the largest and arguably most complex machine ever built by man.
tawnos178 1 year ago
@ftutbs Seriously! What? They think that these came cheap and were easy to build and fuel up?
MrMrmonsterguy 1 year ago
@ftutbs uneducated people have to believe because they don't know
toddi1971 1 year ago
@ftutbs dweb the launch was real the orbit was real they are sayin the landing on moon was fake. if you dont now the differance it prvoes your stupid.
datzfast 1 year ago
@ftutbs
It was not the missions that was faked, it was the evidence that was provided to the public about what was on the moon when they landed...
jenson1575 1 year ago
@jenson1575 im well aware of that.im also well aware that the evidence that moon hoaxers have is weak.they grasp at videos of the antennas on the spacesuits flashing saying "they're hanging by wires"or"they couldnt survive the radiation of the van alan belts"or "they found ancient alien ruins" blaa blaa blaa.why cant they just take the apollo program for what it was?it was real,it was what it was.it was reaping of one of the worse weapons of greatest war ever fought that still go on to this day.
ftutbs 1 year ago 4
@ftutbs Fake? Nobody said the Saturn rocket was fake. Its the moon landing which people say was fake, and I agree with them. If it was not fake then why do they not continue to go to the moon? Its american, when they do something, like go to the moon, they will always go to the moon, especially to do some scientific experiments, but they do not, why? because they never went. They only hoaxed it just so they can say that they beat the Russians.
nvstewart 11 months ago
@nvstewart boy ol boy...I got two paths see? ... the first one involves driving a school bus across your front lawn while I'm standing in the open doorway and pretend pissing, of course at that point no one is driving the bus and I unfortunately crunch several of your lawnchair seated toothless kin into the grassless front yard petunia patch (near nephew Henries chunky vomit chunks).
The other path involves violently throwing a often mentioned 27 lb. book (star of "throw the book at him")
MightySaturn5 11 months ago
@nvstewart Well, you weren't there - I was. I worked for NASA if anything were "fake" I would have known about it-and many others. Why fake it six times? They have recently pointed the Hubble space telescope at various lunar landing sites-the Descent Stage of the LEMs are there, as are the spring-loaded flags-with footprints. C'mon give it a break. Telemetry doesn't lie. CGI didnt exist back then nor did video games. PC's were only found on Star Trek! I assure u, it was real! I was there!
59Skott 11 months ago
@nvstewart if it was fake the russians would have exposed it, but even they said it was done ....end of story!
MrDasmaster 10 months ago 6
@nvstewart
Dude, dont forget, the apollo program costs 20 billion dollars. Besides, we were already beating the russians with the first docking, first manned rendezvous, first 2 manned docking, first 2 man space walk, first manned launch of a LEM, first men in a LEM is space, i can name alot more than that.
awey271 1 week ago
@ftutbs the people who think its fake simply hate America. Had Russia beat us to the moon, these people would not have doubted it.
dhbiza 10 months ago 2
@ftutbs Maybe because the whole think looks exactly like the German movie "Frau im Mond" woman on the moon. The director of that movie went to America too after the war by the way.
cassius969 7 months ago
@cassius969 so did von braun.. and worked for the space program after..
Kopihucky 6 months ago
@ftutbs - You will find that only the people who can not comprehend or understand science will term this as fake. Since they dont know how this all can happen, they question everyone else's intelligence.
strangerindanger 4 months ago
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WojciechSz 2 years ago
I heard that seizmographs in washington state recorded the saturn launches.
sking0369 2 years ago
Yep according to the brilliant Haynes Apollo11 Service manual (cheapest at Amazon) the seizmograph was also triggered in New York.
What was God thinking up there watching us launching these powerfull toys towards the stars.
llandudnoboy 2 years ago 2
What will God, if there is such a thing, think when we take our first journeys to the stars, in 40-years?
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
@Beamshipcaptain
We're a fuckofalot farther away from going to the stars than 40 years. Hell we're a decade away from just going to the moon again.
TheJomogogo 2 years ago
when NASA was formed in 1958, it only took 11 years to land on the moon. We have a 50-year advance on that technology,and the Searl Effect Generator, or SEG, which NASA is aware of (Dr. Arthur Cain at NASA was on the Searl team in 1972),and the Inverse Gravity Vehicle flight frames (called Levity Disks back in the day) is a VTOL concept, that uses no fuel,and can go MUCH faster than any rocket,right up to the speed of light and probably beyond 'c' (Alcubierre,1994),because it has no inertia.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
The same thing he or she thought when other races in the cosmos took THEIR first infant-steps into space. We are leaving the cradle.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
What they did really boggles the mind, and probably more if you are high...
InglouriousBasterds 2 years ago
This is power!
ftucyk 2 years ago 3
Would it be possible to modify the shuttle to make it capable of going to the moon and doing lunar orbit? Perhaps with a payload?? Perhaps with a lunar lander in it's payload?
splashdown50 2 years ago 2
No. The shuttle is retiring from service next year. However, its replacement is scheduled for the moon ;-)
tobiasf1 2 years ago
Modify maybe, but would it be worth it?
1. Shuttle barely carries enough fuel to do what it has to in LEO. Would need a lot more fuel. Or a huge booster.
2. Shuttle is way heavy. Energy needed to sling it into lunar orbit is wasted on just sending such a big craft.
3. Lack of power. The current engines don't have enough "oomph" to push that big shuttle out of earth orbit and into lunar orbit.
So various mods COULD be done, but a new lunar mission platform would be much better in all ways.
rockyPants4000 2 years ago
you make it seem ever so real, keep thinking, i think in 2018, people are going back to the moon, should be exciting
TheHiddenOne347 2 years ago
the real problem with a shuttle coming back from the moon would be re-entry. it would be coming back to earth twice as fast than if it was just in orbit. thats why a small capsule is a better design for moon mission. von braun wanted to build a single stage rocket but was convinced later that a muti -stage rocket was the only way with all the fuel they would have to carry.the only thing from the whole entire rocket assembly that came back was the command module. and it weighed only 12000 pounds.
ftutbs 2 years ago
So this is the mission with Ken Mattingly, as far as I remember...
Andybucker 2 years ago 2
addew2 in the words of Forrest Gump "stupid is, as stupid does eh!"
RFKFANTS67 2 years ago
Much more impressive then those death trap shuttles, 14 lives lost compared to 3 in 1967, and for what? To haul shit into orbit...Even the Ruskies still use rockets..hey it's just an opinion, but if something works stick with it
RFKFANTS67 3 years ago
hahaha that is stupid
addew2 3 years ago
your stupid
Blabist 2 years ago
I agree the shuttle isn't the best option for safety but look at it in the long run: The shuttle is the heavy lifter for building the ISS. The ISS will be used heavily for study on effects of space on humans for long duration space flights.
The Moon and back isn't long duration. It's a wonderful achievement but it's a far easier target than Mars.
A successful mission to Mars and back will require much more understanding than we have today.
Still, Saturn V rocks my face off.
laserfloyd 2 years ago 2
The shuttle has many design flaws, it's a surprise there haven't been that many accidents, not to mention the fact that it is more expensive.
bombarderoazul 2 years ago
yeahh quite often post-landing checks reveal slipped and cracked tiles, ripped thermal blankets. and the sts-119 hydrogen flow valve carry on :P
skatebmxtom 2 years ago
I don't know bomb, its a pretty decent ol craft...unless you are speaking about its lack of emergency egress
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
THIS GAVE ME A MASSIVE HARD ON :D
CutterSlade 3 years ago 5
GREAT VIDEO :) THANKS
BasserPeti 3 years ago 2
That's what about 150 million horsepower looks like at work.
gen57b 3 years ago 3
Wow - this one is really super - video is sharp and clear and the audio is killer. This is the best Apollo launch clip I have found for quality
wardcurry 3 years ago 4
Sound is great and picture clear - thanks
SavannahR8 4 years ago 5