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  • i want the black one

  • I saw something on TV this woman had I think six wolf hybrids they turned on her and killed her.

  • @sharynrenee

    Which means in my opinion people should not have hybrids. She had already told someone even though she loved them she was starting to get a little scared as they were becoming aggressive. It wasn't their faults I dont think they belong in homes.

  • @JhonnyWisdomRock so what I hear you say is, "cats are dicks?" Couldn't agree more! :P But seriously, dogs are awesome, socially intelligent animals, and it doesn't take much to earn their love and loyalty.

  • Filmed with a rainbow...

  • This is wrong. I hope those animals rip your dumb ass down to your gristle.

  • @Asaseya18 How is this wrong but owning a regular dog such as a german sheperd as a pet is ok? Do explain, moron.

  • @kuchikirukia991

    My aren't you a nice one. I happen to agree with @Asaseya18.wolf hybrids are just to close to being wolves I spoke to an expert on here and they said these animals should never be owned.....you moron,

  • @sharynrenee Regular dogs were wild once too, and had to be domesticated. There is literally no difference between the two other than one is wild and one isn't. If it is acceptable to own and have a german sheperd as a pet, it is fine to domesticate wolves and have them as pets. You can't think one's right and the other is wrong. They're either both right, or both wrong.

  • @kuchikirukia991

    *Sigh* Yes I know regular dogs were once wild as well. They are totally domesticated now and have been for a long tme. I dont much care what anyone says but you cant just breed a wolf with a dog and expect all wild wolf instincts to disappear when bred with a dog.. when wolves have been wolves forever. Your wrong. And I have a wolf refuge mail on here somewhere and they say NO ONE absolutely no one should own a hybrid.

  • @sharynrenee I don't think it's right for a wolf or a wolf hybrid to be a pet.

    I just called the other person out for what they said because I wanted to know what the difference was between a wolf and a domesticated dog as a pet. I don't believe in having any pets, or animals being in zoo's. It's not what they were made for and I think everything should be wild. I'm not trying to say that this is ok, because I don't think it is.

  • @kuchikirukia991

    Oh okay than were on the same page. I also believe animals shouldn't be owned I dont believe in zoo's I think wildlife refuges and wildlife sanctuary's are unfortunately a must. I do have a weakness for cats. We have saved the ones we do have from shelters.

  • @sharynrenee I love animals and would like to have one. But I live in a tiny apartment in the city. It wouldn't be fair to an animal if I put them in this environment. Tanks and cages and fenced in yards just aren't a life..

  • @Asaseya18

    I agree with you.

  • At least they aren't pitbulls.

  • @LyleVertigo hey! don't be hatin on pitbulls. Pitbulls are freakin awesome

  • @pennygal1 fuckin right pits are the best dogs out there cant wait till i get mine in 2 weeks gonna be ballin pits are the shit who ever thinks different needs a kick in the mouth

  • @KTBallday hell yeah! your so lucky i wish i could get a pit. My grandpa had one and she was the sweetest little thing. i've got a German Shepherd that just loved 2 play with her. im so freakin tired of of pitbull stereotypes. its all a load of stupid shit, and none of its true. Like all breeds, it depends on if the owner raises the dog right, or if there a total dumb ass about it.

  • @pennygal1 i know its not the dogs fault , u bread it to fight or you bread it to be protectful, its not his or her fault its the owners fault . every pit i see are the nicest dogs you will ever meet, we can have them off the lesh they listen perfect.  i love the looks of them tho my type favs red nose,blue nose an the gator pittbull

  • @KTBallday ur exactly right, oh and my grandpa's pit was a red nose, she was very beautiful.

  • I live in a huge place whit lost of terrain .I have 4 German Sheperds , 7 muts( my babies :D) and 1 wolfdog.

    Guess whit you has bit me the most?

    My cat.

    If you understand your pet and treat it whit respect and care it will love you back.If you are unfit to do this do not bother to have these animals.

  • Wow... can't believe how many uneducated, unread idiots posted their assinine remarks. I also have a wolfdog (his parents are from Alaska) and he is a fantastic companion and very friendly. I made sure he was highly socialized and everyone just loves him. They aren't for everyone or every family, and I wouldn't trade him for anything,

  • i bet your neighbors love that thing running around their kids

  • @dave997 When I had my hybrid the neighborhood kids would come over while I was at work to play with the dog and tie the long leash on her so she could pull them on the roller blades around the neighborhood. She protected all people under four feet tall. It was the butt head adults she was leery at.

  • I'm starting to get get jealous of everyone having wolf hybrids were do they get the wolfs to breed with the dog and how?

  • How do you measure the quantities?

  • Hybrid gets picked up.

    Hybrid: "What?......  uggh my ground *FLAIL!*

  • Bet none of you have ever held an 12 week old panther

  • so the other percentage is? if they are 75% german shepard it's cool they look mostly wolf!!!

  • How tall are they at the shoulder?

  • 0:25 its so fluffy

  • there is no good reason to own a wolf hybrid! they have too much wild in them! to a wolf a crying baby sounds like a dying rabbit! the hybrids can still have those dangerous instincts!!! a german shepherd is a WAY better guard dog than a wolf hybrid because it has been BRED into them!

    If you wanted a wolf hybrid because you think its the biggest toughest dog you are an idiot because you could have got the Turkish Kangal that is way stronger and better for families

  • @SonsOfLiberty65 I was going to write a well mediated and carefully thought out reply but then I saw your channel and it all made sense...

  • @SonsOfLiberty65 German shepherds are known to also bite people frequently and are considered "dangerous dogs" according to BSL. They even bite more often (and often more severely) than pitbulls, though they don't get in the media since they aren't "fighting" dogs like pitbulls are often seen as.

    Dogs have bitten and seriously injured infants, too so obviously they also have instincts. Any large canine can be dangerous. It's whether or not the owner can be responsible. That's the real question.

  • @ShikaSama94 you dont get it dogs have been by mans side for tens of thousands of years wolves have learned to avoid man. To a dog a crying baby might just be annoying but to a wolf it sounds like a dying rabbit. Wolves and Dogs are two completely different animals. No one should own a wolf or wolf hybrid.

  • @SonsOfLiberty65 You sir, are an idiot without experience.

  • @alexandrea73 i owned a doggie daycare asshole! tell me one good reason to own a wolf

  • @ShikaSama94 It's funny bc labs actually bite the most people. Not the "dangerous" breeds (GSD, Rottweiler, Pit Bull, Doberman)

  • @SonsOfLiberty65 Spoken like a true idiot.

  • I want one!!!!

  • it seems normal cats and dogs aren't interesting anymore. -.-

  • It's like a husky!

  • poor animals!

  • Beautiful wolf

  • Be careful. They still have wolf instincts, including the will to be alphas. They may try to catch you when you're sick

  • what is a wolf hybrid ?

  • @nameerwahsh I believe they are husky+wolf mixes. They are as close to legally owning a wolf as you can possibly get. However they also have a tendency to be more wild doing things such as running away and killing small animals. Getting on is not advised especially if you live in a community with small children.

  • @nameerwahsh They eat less food and have lower emissions...

  • oh my good i like wolf

  • this is a wolf dog if its 75 % German sheraprd, a wolf hyrbird would be more wolf then dog :P

  • @DogSoldier011, These guys are 75% wolf.

  • @wolfdogfostermom is it around the muzzel that gives off that impression ?

  • @DogSoldier011, Possibly. But I do know the parents of these 2- both verified (mom is a true 98%). This video they were also only about 8 months old I believe. I am sure they have matured into fairly wolfy animals, if they are anything like I have seen of their siblings. Most of which I would pheno as upper mid-low highs.

  • @wolfdogfostermom pretty wolfy its a shame ther banned here since october of last year close to 25 of them were Gun down.butthey didnt look nothing like this they looked like jed the wolf,from white fang.

  • thats fucking AWESOME!!

  • You can really tell those are wolves :)

  • AWWWW how do you get these dogs? they are so rare! and they are so cute and beautiful! they really do look like wolves! i would know that because i use to live in the mountains and i saw 2 wolves before :) then i saw a coyote trying to come to my house and take our food O.O not the point...I LOVE YOUR DOGS! but you should becareful to carry a dog like that cuz it can hurt your back and that position isnt very confortable with dogs :)

  • @Animallover11486 they are not rare if u have a female german shepard tie her up in the woods a few days when shes in heat most likely a wolf will find her

  • @joshacio um ok? no wonder their ears are pointy...but wouldnt the wolf kill the dog? you shouldnt just leave your dogs in the woods! specially in heat & they are pretty much rare because u need to have a actual wolf to be with ur dog! u cant find em in every pet store!

  • @Animallover11486, You are right, REAL wolfdogs are harder to come by. Most "wolfdogs" here on Youtube and on breeders pages are poorly bred low-no content husky/malamute/GSD mutts that are being grossly misrepresented. These 2 woofers in this vieo are upper mid-lower high contents that came from a VERY good breeder with verifiable lineage.

  • I had a dog like this, but my neighbour shot him. I was amazed, and clapped my hands in delight.

  • where did you get them at? im looking all over the web for a breeder of wolf shepard mix's and cant find any, or they have them and they dont look like wolfs at all...

    i worked with a guy who had a wolf belgian shepard mix and it was beautiful and ever since i wanted one. but it has to look like a wolf, like the ones in this video. if anyone can help guide me to a place that sells them id greatly appreciate it

  • @gatoralley01

    It's going to be difficult to find a breeder of them, and you have to make sure that it's not illegal where you are to have one. here in the city we aren't allowed to have them as pets. But my aunt out in the countryside had one for 13 years.

  • @gatoralley01 The best breeders are overseas in my opinion, good strong dogs but they truly are for the experienced hun. You'll need to make sure they give it obedience classes cause hardly any place here will take them. It sounds like your friend has more of a kumnign wolfdog. I think the czech wolfdog is the best out of all. They are well rounded all the way physically, have an amazing resemblance to wolves(more than kumning). Saarloosewofldog i'd stay away from. You'd have to be experienced

  • @gatoralley01 with wolves/wolfdogs like me and then you cant have kids, or small pets. They will require a mate because they are the most unstable if you call it (even though no wolfdog is truly stable). You cant have friends over or anything like that so i'd just stick to a pure wolf and just rescue one :/ they've been trained and need a good home. There are tons of wolf shelters.

  • @tyragurl No clue where you got your facts from, but my wolf does not fit any of the criteria

  • @Darianmakesmusic ? I got my information from books and doing research and owning some but what about your wolf?

  • @Darianmakesmusic And I seriously doubt you have a real wolf. As most people, especially the lot of here on Youtube and breeders that sell "wolves and hybrids" have nothing more then horribly misrepresented, low-no content wolfy looking dog mutts. Hmm.

  • @wolfdogfostermom Hi, how do your Wolfdogs deal with the heat in Texas? Do they have much Undercoat?

    The pics on your website suggest that this coat may be lighter than what we see in Alberta.

  • @oodnac, They do fairly well during the summer and shed down true to wolf standards vs husky or malamute coats. Their coats are not as thick in the winter time as what you would see up north, but they do grow in a noticable winter coat. :) I do know one person in particular that has a very high content Arctic that was curious to see his winter coat in the south and he grew in a coat that, and I quote "would knock your socks off" LOL.

  • @tyragurl Hi, Dog/Wolf crossbreed's are quite common here in Calgary. They are very well mannered, and are good with children. My Grey Wolf, Malamute cross visits our Children's Hospital, and a Nursing home, and is very popular. Like any dog, you must be able to, afford it, want it, have/spend enough time with them, excercise them, and of course train them.

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  • You have to constantly remind this wolf that he/she is NOT the pack leader.

    Owning a wolf is nothing like owning a dog. Wolves are genetically coded to rise up the ranks of their pack to become the Alpha Male because only the Pack leaders breed with the best chances.

    Wolf will constantly challenge you, so you have to constantly play mind games and let the wolf know you are the pack leader....

    also, you can never let the wolf be alone with children or small animals. Instinct will kick in.

  • @bio2020 i dont agree with you my grandmother had 5 wolves and let them sleep with all of her children (all 15 of them) and they never bit them, nor got aggressive with them. We had 3 and my mother let them sleep with me when i was a baby. They wouldnt sleep until they knew we were safe. They were very well trained and i was able to reach my hand in their food bowl while they ate and they wouldnt snap or get territorial. We taught them when they were young that they were below the child.

  • @tyragurl i think the wolf dogs where ur from might be differnt then the ones in here

  • @tyragurl, haha. Sorry. Sounds like another bunch of misrepresented woofers.

  • @bio2020 in the pack and they never tried to challenge that in their years of living. I also have a tegu that they never tried to attack at all. All they would do is stare at it or try to cuddle with it. But my tegu didnt like them so hed nip at them. Eventually they got the point haha. But i miss them so very much and i know they are resting peacefully. Most people dont know how to raise wolves/hybrids right. but it comes natural to me. Guess cause im half apache.

  • whos a good doggy!!!!!!!

  • when i get one will be 98 percent but your looks fine peace

  • My uncle bought a dog but later we found out it was a wolf...

  • I love how people on youtube are suddenly pros on have wolves as pets...

  • @madarauchiha1218, I love how Uchiha's have to have the last say about everything. Sorry...couldn't help it, lol. Most people obviously are not and do a lot more harm then good when they open their mouths- especially when talking about wolves/wolfdogs. I actually do have a lot of experience (verifiable) as I help with network rescues and foster care for wolves/wolfdogs. :) These 2 wolfdogs (upper mid-low high content) came from awesome lines!

  • @madarauchiha1218 i love how everyones shepherd mix on youtube is suddenly a wolf hybrid <3 <3!!!

  • @Taud the one she picked up is a wolf hybrid... the other one was the Shep mix.

  • @StizaCrack LOL yeah okay, ive seen hundreds of these "wolf hybrids" people get ripped off, theyre husky/shepherd mixes, let me guess youre one of those people that think the canine DNA tests really work?

  • @Taud HAHAHAHA no im not. And mine is not a shep mix haha, but seems like you have a personal problem or some shit. Just let people be.

  • @StizaCrack I have the personal problem when its you crying to me about a comment i left and its not even your youtube account i was talking to?

    Same right back at you, it works both ways

  • @Taud Who needs a dna test when you saw the parents? Guess its not needed at that point right. You can tell by the way an animal acts anyway, it either has the traits or it doesnt.

  • @StizaCrack the parents have been faked too, these people take a spitz body type dog that has that coat pattern and breed the mutts as wolf hybrids i dont care what you saw man, seeing isnt believing people are just wishful thinkers to hope that theyre little shepherd mix is a big bad wolf to make them cool or something lol

  • @Taud hahaha really? its kinda hard to fake a big ass grey wolf mom and pop your a fuckin moron. Dont judge someones animal simply over a video or picture who the fuck are you to say anything? I bet you've actually never seen one hahaha get the fuck outta here guy. Stop trolling. Any dipshit can make out a shep, husky, wolf dip shit its not that hard. Obviously your fuckin down syndrome.

  • @StizaCrack fucking moron? LOL

    I think its YOU with the personal problem there pal, flap your gums some more and cry about, you started talking shit to me, its not your video, if anything you are trolling i didnt say shit to insult you and now youre all upset and butt hurt over my comment at someone else

    twilight emo bitch go back to pretending you run with wolves and all this shit lol

  • @Taud LOLOLOL twilight? seems like you know more about it than me. And flap my gums? yea, i fuckin am, your the one trolling on someones video for no apparent reason, and i bet you spend days doing it to other peoples videos. Sheesh.... wheres a cliff when you need one huh? Haha oh wait... are you an apache like the other fuckin guy and just KNOW when something is wolf? hahahaha all i said is let people be and you started blowin out your ass.

  • @StizaCrack, You would think it's easy...but if that were the case...then the majority of "wolf and high % hybrid" breeders in the USA would have legitimate high content wolfdogs and not poorly bred, low-no (sometimes mid) husky/mal/GSD crosses. But sadly...that is not the case and it is quite the opposite. Misrepresenting breeders are destroying the scene and sad to say...the majority of their buyers and the public believe their low-no content dog mutts are real wolves/high content wolfdogs.

  • @StizaCrack, Sorry if I am skeptical, but you don't know how many people I have heard say "I have seen their parents, I have experience and that was for sure a pure wolf (or a high content)" ...and it's a low, maybe a mid content wofldog. If that. :/

  • @wolfdogfostermom I understand your point but i respect you because of the way you expressed it not like the jackass before that doesnt know how to speak to people :D

  • @StizaCrack, Thank you. :) And I am glad it helped. I know I have to update that darn thing, so I do apologize for the un-finished sections!!! :o

  • @wolfdogfostermom btw love your site and it was VERY helpful ;]

  • @Taud, I do agree with *some* of what you said, do you believe that these 2 in this video are husky/shepherd mixes? Just curious.

  • @wolfdogfostermom My comment was actually in response to what madarauchiha1218 said, it didnt have anything to do with the dogs in this video...

    Don't tell me youve never seen ads on the internet for fake wolf hybrids, check craigslist and kijiji, plenty of "wolf hybrids"

    I've yet to meet any legal breeders with proper credentials from a biologist or leading authority like a kennel club, they all have excuses of their own...

  • @Taud, Ah yes, the Uchiha. Are you kidding me? Most of my website is "dedicated" to misrepresenting breeders and owners. Yes, the number of legitimate breeders are very few and far between. And I do know of a *slim* few that have verified lines and incredible animals. Unfortunately, they only make up...what...maybe .1% of the entire WD breeding world? It is truly a shame. :/

  • @wolfdogfostermom Yeah I actually scrolled down the comments and looked at your profile afterwards just now, lol... i guess i shouldn't have bothered asking that question. I wouldn't know the exact percentage but another thing worth mentioning, some might actually have wolves that they breed illegally, they just don't have credentials or a believable lineage story but might have real hybrids for all i know...

  • @Taud, Lol, no worries. And yes, few do, but most of the time, that is not the case! And that is a good thing! I do know of a few animals that have actually been sold as a lower content then what they really were (sold as upper mids when they were really very high content). Doesn't happen very often, but it is just as bad- and the people usually get way more then what they can handle. :/

  • @StizaCrack, I do believe these are siblings from a very reputable breeder. These are 2 young animals (I believe they were only 8 months?) The mom is a VERIFIED 98% and the dad is a lower mid-mid content I think a little less then 50% on paper. I have seen adult siblings to these two that phenotype as upper mid-lower high contents. These are 2 of the VERY FEW real wolfdogs here on youtube.

  • @madarauchiha1218 ? why is that? Because we own a wolf? Love it and treat it as you would your pet and the results are 10 times more rewarding. Stronger bond than a dumbass regular no personality dog.

  • @madarauchiha1218 Yeah, I know right? It's like they all act as though they've either got one, or have had one.

  • @onimotoko, Lol, the funny thing about that is, I DO! For over 10 years, I have rescued, owned and volunteered working with wolves/wolfdogs. :)

  • @wolfdogfostermom Oh I wasn't talking about you! LOL Just some of the dumbasses on these here comment boxes.

  • @onimotoko, LOL, thanks and yeah...I don't blame you. :)

  • their good Animals if yah know how to care for them :-)

  • Does anyone know where to get the wolf high-breeds at???

  • @HPGirl2000 wolf high-breeds? If your calling them that then you obviously do not know enough to own a true wolfdog. If you have no experience in dog training, animal behavior, or you've never had a dog before then don't get one.

  • Be careful with these beautiful animals. They are a mix of a domesticated dog and a wild animal.

  • How long do wolf hybrids live? And can they be potty trained?

  • @mariesadler they live as long as any regular dog with the proper care. and by potty train do you mean house train? if so yes they can. mine is

  • @weirdKid1989 they burn out when their 8ish soemtimes 10 ish :p

  • @DogSoldier011 that's normal tho right? . my neighbors hybrid is 10. 11 in 2 months, he's still alive. old and kinda slow to get around but alive and healthy.

  • @weirdKid1989 it depends on if the dog is entire or fixed. i know of entire dogs that live longer then the fixed ones :p and thats a fact.

  • @weirdKid1989 When talking aboutmid-higher content wolfdogs. Most live to be 14-16 years old. They *generally* do not have the health issues associated with inbreeding and overbreeding. Most of the wolves and wolfdogs I know have lived to be 15 and 16 years old. My boy (a mid content) that passed away last year could still jump all 4 paws on the counter at 15 yrs old. He never had any health issues aside from a few skin tags and very mild OA from older age.

  • @DogSoldier011, not sure where you got that one from, but that is way off. Maybe with the lower contents mixed with giant malamute. But most wolfier wolfdogs live well into their teens.

  • @wolfdogfostermom i didnt say anything about living,i ment they start to experince joint pains at a young age and yes they can livei nto their teens.

  • I hate loud people.

  • how do i get a czech wolfdog?? :(

  • Wolves are AWESOME, german shepherds are AWESOME

    which makes this SUPERAWESOME.

    Btw, I guess that wolves are pretty tame when they have been tamed, so I don't think there is no problems with these cuties :3 teehee

    

  • @GoneToTheeDogs So you're an ethologist now? You don't know why the chimp or the tiger attacked their owners. Don't pretend you do.

    "Travis" the chimp's attack on the woman likely had something to do with the fact that he was on Xanax, a prescription drug known to have side effects of hallucination, aggression, rage and mania in humans. He also suffered of Lyme disease. Did you know any of that? Before making the assumption that "it's just because it was a wild animal."

  • @Livatube Who the breeder of the dog is has no bearing on what its temperment will be like. Fatal wolfdog attacks from legitimate wolfdogs are rare because not many people keep wolfdogs.

    Domesticated dog attacks kill an average of 32 people every year. All mid to large sized dogs are potentially dangerous animals.

  • i would LOVE to get a hybrid...however, because of so many damn idiots neglecting 'wild' animals and so many stupid phobias about them being 'dangerous' you cannot have one in town >> and because of the messed up economy, prices and all tat skyrocketed and i can't even afford one for Shiva's sake i remember gas being just over a dollar a gallon!!!!

  • @GoneToTheeDogs As long as the animals are cared for appropriately, present no direct risk to the general public or children and are not being taken from protected wild populations. What's wrong with it? Are you against hunting too? Opposed to alligator and bison farming?

    No, the term "pet" is not only inclusive of domesticated animals, maybe per your definition, but not the dictionary/encyclopedia definition. Wild animals can make perfectly good pets, I know this from experience.

  • @Alf90100 Pet: A domestic or tamed animal or bird kept for companionship or pleasure and treated with care and affection.

    A wolf is not domestic, nor tamed. Nor is any hybrid thereof. It took thousands of years to develop domestic dogs. Mixing wolves with dogs will not result in instantaneous domestication. Therefore, they and any wild animal you hold captive are not pets.

  • @GoneToTheeDogs Did you actually read the definition you quoted? LOL!

    Here, I'll add emphasis to the words you've missed.

    "Pet: A domestic OR TAMED animal or bird kept for companionship or pleasure and treated with care and affection."

    Also, depending on how the word "domestic" is used, even that can refer to undomesticated animals.

    I'll say nothing further to you, it'll get us nowhere. You're just an idiot, you've shown that many times now. I might as well just be talking to the wall.

  • @Alf90100 Holy crap, it's like talking to a brick wall here. Wolves are not tamed. I covered that in my post. Read it sometime, would ya? And how would domestic have anything to do with undomesticated animals? That makes absolutely no sense. Quite honestly, I don't think you have enough brain sells to properly take care of the wild animals you claim to have. Do you have a permit for them at least? Domestic can refer to undomesticated....wow...never heard anything so stupid in my entire life!

  • @GoneToTheeDogs How about you consult a dictionary for god's sake?

    If she can hold it and handle it consistently without the animal showing distress or attacking her, it's tame!

    "1. changed from the wild or savage state; domesticated: a tame bear."

    If it's tame/can live in the household , it's a domestic[/ated] animal.

    1. of or pertaining to the home, the household, household affairs, or the family: domestic pleasures.

    3. tame; domesticated.

    Consider yourself owned...

  • @Alf90100 Holding an animal in the air does not classify it as tamed. Remember that chimp that ripped that lady's face off? It was raised as a baby, held in the owner's arms, dressed in funny clothes, interacted with people daily. And then it's wild instincts kicked in. A moment of peace should not classify an animal as tamed. You would be fooling yourself. A dictionary definition of tamed has no weight here. Wolves aren't tamed no matter how you define it. They are wild animals no matter what.

  • @Alf90100 Hey, was that tiger that mauled Roy tamed? I mean...the guy could pet him and give it belly rubs. Guess if I can do that to a tiger, that makes it domesticated by your logic, so I can have it live in my house and walk it down the street and snuggle with it and pick him up, and rub him, and pet him....

  • @GoneToTheeDogs Did you know that 32 people in the U.S. every year [mostly children] are killed by domesticated dogs? More people are killed by domesticated dogs every year than have ever been killed by all wild animals combined ever kept as pets in the U.S. Does that make dogs undomesticated or untame?

    Also, it's not "my logic," it's the dictionary definition.

  • @Alf90100 You know why? Because their are millions of dogs out there living in people's houses.There is not even a fraction of that when it comes to wolves living IN people's houses and being WITHIN the context of other people's lives.Plus, dog attacks are not caused by instinct.They are caused by stupid people raising them poorly or poor breeding causing genetic defects.Plus bite statistics are skewed. Had a pup brought in fora bite case.It was a puppy being playful but they thought it was mean

  • @GoneToTheeDogs Yes, there are more dog owners than owners of exotic mammals in the U.S., true. But there are also thousands of owners of potentially harmful exotic animals in the U.S., yet very rarely do you hear of someone being killed by a wild animal they kept as a pet.

    Not true, many dog attacks are caused by instinct, not all, but some. You really think that dogs aren't instinctual animals? Every animal is an instinctual animal.

  • @Alf90100 You cannot take those statistics solely on numbers as there are REASONS behind the attacks. You can't provoke a dog or keep it locked in the garage all it's life and then when it attacks, blame it on the species.

    Can you blame a dog for biting if it's been beaten, left in isolation, not treated right? No...but those stats don't care. That is why you can never use them in ANY debate. They're faulty.

  • @GoneToTheeDogs If those statistics aren't reliable, then your mention of incidents in which people were injured by exotic animals aren't either. You don't really know why the chimp or the tiger attacked, you don't truly know how they were handled and cared for,

    Also, you're forgetting that most dog attack deaths are children. So the victimization of the animal argument really doesn't work.

  • @Alf90100 The chimp and tiger attacked because they were wild animals that people tried to make live a domesticated life. That does not work.I don't get what you mean about the attacks on children. If a dog is beaten, it will not just direct it's fear aggression on the one beating it. All people become scary. All people have hands that can cause pain. Does not matter if it is a child or an adult. The dog was made fearful by someone's hands and will lash out to try toscare any human off.

  • @GoneToTheeDogs I don't have any permits because I don't own any animals that the state of Virginia requires permits to own. Not all wild animals require permits in any state, and no wild animals [unless protected] require permits to own in some states.

  • @Alf90100 What animals and how did you acquire them? And for what reason do you keep them?

    Again, just because someone has a wild animal, that doesn't mean I think them bad. There are a whole host of reasons I find acceptable. But "because I want to have 'em and treat 'em right" is not one of them.

  • @GoneToTheeDogs I own several snakes, arachnids and myriapods. I acquired them from people who owned them at the time and were interested in selling/trading them.

    Why? I have a genuine fascination and interest in them, I find owning them to be very enjoyable and rewarding.

  • @Alf90100 See, I have no problem with those animals. Their cognitive status is nowhere near that of a wolf. I see that as a different thing entirely when it comes to ethics. I don't see the 2 even comparable.

  • @GoneToTheeDogs But a wolf's "cognitive status" isn't much greater than that of an intelligent dog breed and an intelligent dog's "cognitive status" is greater than that of most animals, bears, any reptiles, most wild cats even. Dogs are also more active than 99% of well fed terrestrial animal species. So how are these animals less ethical to own than domesticated dogs based on that logic?

  • not bragging but just saying an agreeing its how the owner wants to treat them. just like pitts. they are good animals, just the owners raise them wrong. my opinion

  • we have 6 dogs, a hybrid, a bird dog, lab & pitt mix, a miniature beagle mix, a Chihuahua, an a recuse, pitt & great Pyrenees. all do well together. And the funny thing is the hybrid is the most genital one of all. its all on how u raise them. its how the owner raises them. they are the most caring animal i 've been around, oh we have three teenagers, an a 8 yr old that lives in the house. :) lol yeah there is certain things u don't do, an we've went over those things.

  • where can you get a dog like this

  • Wolfdogs are not dogs and should not be treated as such.

    I just hope this person did not buy these dogs. Rescue, fine, but buying...that's just horrible. Putting money into people diminishing a wolf's life. That's sick.

  • @GoneToTheeDogs What's wrong with owning wolves/high content wolf hybrids that isn't wrong with owning a german shepherd for nonherding purposes? There's nothing "sick" about this.

  • @Alf90100 There's nothing wrong with owning one if you rescued it. But buying one or breeding them is VERY bad. Wolves are wild animals and should be kept that way. Keeping them for the sole purpose of creating hybrids to be sold as "pets" is a very bad thing, to put it bluntly. Wolves are not pets. Their offspring, no matter the content, are not pets. Keeping them as such is just mean to the animal. If you respect it, you'll let it be as nature intended it, wild...not stuck in your house.

  • @GoneToTheeDogs Yeah, and many breeds of dogs were intended to be working animals with immense amounts of energy, strength and endurance. Yet most people keep them in small homes, and worse yet, kennels. Only allowing them to go outside into a small backyard or walking them for a few minutes every once in a while. Many dog breeds were never intended to be "pets" or stuck in someone's family home/apartment. This is just as cruel.

    How is this really any different than owning a wolf/wolf hybrid?

  • @GoneToTheeDogs I care much more about how someone cares for and about their animal(s), than what animal(s) one chooses to keep.

    Many wolves have much better experience in captivity than many chuhuahuas. If one can humanely keep a wolf/wolf hybrid or any other animal for that matter, what's wrong with that?

  • @Alf90100 The problem I have are the people taking wolves out of the wild or using already captive wolves to purposely breed wolf hybrids. These animals are not pets. If you rescue one, that's perfectly fine. I don't have a problem with that. But if you buy one or breed them, then that is a major problem. In doing that, you show completely lack of respect for wolves. I don't understand what you mean by having much better experience in captivity. A house is not the same as a sanctuary...

  • @GoneToTheeDogs You're a hypocrite plain and simple. You come onto wolfdog videos complaining that it's wrong to keep a wolf/wolfdog, but you probably aren't going onto people's videos of working dogs and complaining that it's wrong to keep those in their small suburban houses and not doing the tasks they've been selectively bred for centuries to do.

    To own a wolf/wolfdog is as unethical as owning a working dog for nonworking, inactive purposes.

  • @Alf90100 There is no point to purposely breeding a wolf to a dog. It is only for selfish reasons.NO ONE benefits here.Again, if the hybrid has already been bred and you take it under your wing without buying it from the breeder,then I am perfectly ok with that.They need homes in that sense.But creating more demand by buying them only creates problems.You cannot compare hybrids to chihuahuas. Chihuahuas are dogs,hybrids are not.Don't matter how nice you take care of them, they're still not dogs.

  • @GoneToTheeDogs The only reason you should come to believe that owning a wolf/wolfdog is any less ethical than owning a domesticated dog if both are cared for properly and wild populations are left alone for the former, is A. you're jealous that you can't own a wolf, or B. you exhibit a strong adherance and are faithful to social norms.

  • @Alf90100 Are you not understanding anything I'm saying? I don't have a problem with people who have wolf hybrids. I have problems with people who buy wolf hybrids because they think they're cool and people who breed them. I'm not jealous. I don't want a wolf. I want a family pet...a dog. I want wolves to be wolves. To live in the wild, not be held captive to breed to make hybrids so people can have "cool-looking pets". They are not dogs no matter how ethical you think you treat it.

  • @GoneToTheeDogs I understand exactly what you're saying, you're just wrong. Aside from protecting wild populations [which are not effected by captive breeding] there's no reason to believe that "wolves" should be any freer than dogs based solely on the merits that they're undomesticated animals.

    Is it wrong that some people keep and breed wild bison in the place of cattle for the same purposes as cattle and will often hybridize bison with cattle to make a better, leaner meat ["beefalo"]?

  • @Alf90100 An opinion can't be wrong. And yes, it is stupid to cross cattle and bison. It doesn't make "leaner" meat, bison is already lean. What is the purpose of breeding a wolf to a dog? The result you get is not a pet. But the only reason people are crossing these is specifically to sell to people wanting an ego boost. That is not right. That is not ethical.Keeping wolves just so you can cross them with dogs to sell to inexperienced people as "pets".People doing this are in it for aquickbuck.

  • @GoneToTheeDogs Yes, an opinion can be wrong. The term "pet" is very subjective, some people like dogs, others cats. Some even like goat, pigs, rodents, reptiles or even spiders. Who are you to tell anyone that the animal they desire to keep is not a pet? Who are you to tell them why they wish to keep the pet of their choosing? Have you met every single wolfdog owner to know why every one of them chooses to keep their animals?

    I expect you're speaking from experience in saying they're not pets?

  • @Alf90100 So, by what you're saying...you're perfectly fine with people going out, capturing lions, tigers and bears...keeping them as pets and using them to create hybrids so they can have little hybrid pets of their own and then selling other litters to other people just wanting a cool pet...you find all of this ethical?

    Pet is reference to domestication. Wolves are not domesticated. They are not pets. Mixing wild with domesticated does not get you a domesticated animal.

  • @GoneToTheeDogs That's a common misconception, very rarely are wild mammals captured to be kept in captivity, the lions, tigers and bears we see in captivity today are mostly just the offspring of those animals that have been in captivity for decades. Some lineages of those animals in captivity are much older than you or I. Rarely, licensed research facilities will take animals from the wild but that's only to keep the stock genetically healthy.

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  • @Alf90100 What does hunting have to do with taking animals from the wild and keeping them for yourself? I don't care how nice you treat them, it is still not ethical to own wild animals as pets. They were not made to be pets. They should not be treated as pets. In doing so, you are doing them a great injustice. Doesn't matter how many belly rubs or cookies you give them, they're still stuck in an environment they were not born to be in...all because you think it's "cool" and ok to keep them.

  • How did I get here from fucking condoms?!

  • I wanna buy one.

  • Aww soo cute!