THANK YOU for finally telling the world how to pronounce Beijing! Jesus if i had a nickle for every time I have heard Beizhing, I would be a RICH man :)
@UdallIn72 Note that they pronounce Bei as something like Pei. Many centuries ago, "Pei" was only "Pe", while "jing" was pronounced like "king" in that region of China. The first Europeans in China knew in that way, Peking, and transmited so to the west. Later, native Chinese changed pronunciation to "pei" and "jing". It's represented with B and not P, because pinyin (the writing system to traslate phonetically Chinese) use "B" for "P". And so, Beijing.
Cantonese exist before Mandarin by 2000 years and we say it bakging =) Southern Chinese dialects are closer to Middle age Chinese. Mandarin is highly affected by Manchurian language during 清 dynasty phonetically.
yea, the "j" sound in "jing" is definitely not a normal american j sound. The teeth don't come together.
Its more pronounced more like "gyung" but with the instead of the "g" sound at the beginning you need to touch your tongue to the top of your mouth (so it sounds more like a j, but not quite).
Er...at least this is the uber-northern accented way of pronouncing it.
hmm... I disagree with the statement "Jing" pronounces the same as in "Jingle". The "J" in Chinese is a different sound than "J" in English. Since there is nothing with the same sound in English "J" as in "Jingle" is close enough. (My mother tongue is Mandarin.)
NO it's not.its an old english calling.longlong time ago,maybe in the 13th century,the city really named beijing,but in the early of 20th century,beijing北京 was called beiping北平 because of the KMTs decision peking sounds like beiping... so....
@jellydounut No, Peking is the Wade Giles system of writing the characters for Beijing. The 'b' is slightly softer than in English and the 'j' is slightly further forward in the mouth so this system was meant to show that.The Chinese never said "Peking", Europeans just wrote it that way. But someone who knew the Wade Giles system would have pronounced it Beijing.
I knew it was jing, and not zhing. I learned that in my basic Mandarin classes, so I KNEW IT was BEI JING. So where did all the MSM reporters get that ZHING? From Karl ROZHE? snicker.
Fantastic, guys, and thanks. Who's going to correct the NBC commentator who, inevitably, will speak about the rigorous "regime" (ray-ZHEEM) that the athletes have undertaken in their training?
I too get annoyed with presenters miss pronouncing Beijing. But let's not forget that the Italian that opened the Sydney Olympics miss pronounced Sydney pronouncing it Sydeney. Also Aussies pronounce Million as Miwion. They leave out the L's. Also many presenters are miss pronouncing the word OLYMPICS of all words. They are pronouncing the word as Alypmics. So the are saying welcome back to the Beissing Alypmics.
This is such a non-issue it's ridiculous. First of all, it is entirely unnecessary to say "Beijing" with the proper Mandarin tones, because we're NOT speaking Mandarin! If you're speaking English and you start using tones for Chinese names, you'll sound ridiculous. Yes, the right consonants should be used, but this is making a mountain out of a molehill. It's like telling an American to roll their "r"s when they say "burrito" in a Mexican restaurant. Why, if you're not speaking Spanish?
Ehh, the NBC announcers are constantly mispronouncing "Beijing".I think this issue is blown way out of proportion. But, the olympics ARE being held in Beijing so it must be pretty annoying to the people living there that the announcers cant even pronounce the name of the capital correctly.
I think by zhing, they mean the "j" like sound in the word "beige". like people say "beige-ing" instead of "bay-jing". They just kinda slur it over. Hence the part when they make reference to the french language, because that sound, like the word "beige" is french.
for kimbrakay, people get the 'A' sound out of Chow MEIN because it DOES say that sound in the English language. Do the words 'EIGHT', 'SLEIGH', or 'FREIGHT' look at all familiar to you? As with Beijing, it's obvious, but with Chow Mein, it actually does comply with very common words that we all use.
Instead of waving the US flag for jingoism perhaps it should be the Chinese flag? China is known for its extreme nationalism and belligerent foreign policy...exactly why some wanted to boycott the Olympics!
That's a joke. Ppl in america get put in jail for not being "patriotic" enough (depending where you are). Also the US is the one of the top countries where they socialize ppl to be "american" and to disregard their culture STARTING IN GRADE SCHOOL! So don't BS yourself and next time be A LOT more socially aware of your own country before talking trash.
Thanks for the video. An English "j" is a much better approximation to the Mandarin pronunciation than a French one. Why do people think because a word's foreign, it must be pronounced as in French? (I'm surprised it's the case in the US, though, where I thought Spanish was more widely taught than French, unlike the UK.)
You could have mentioned tones too, although (as people have pointed out) I realise it's not supposed to be a complete guide to correct Mandarin pronunciation.
Thanks for the info... And explaining the two charactors makes it even easier to remember! As a Flight Attendant, I go to Beijing quite often... It is IRRITATING to hear BAYSHZING!!!!!! Long live Bay-JING!
They're teaching the ENGLISH pronunciation of jing, not the Chinese pronunciation of 京.
The English "j" sound that they use is correct and accepted as the closest approximation of the "j" sound in Mandarin Chinese. It's not exactly the same, which is why it still sounds a bit like "zh" to you.
The video is aimed toward English speakers who say "Beijing" MORE incorrectly than they need to -- saying a full-fledged French "zh" sound, instead of just pronouncing the "j" that's right in the word.
they aren't trying to learn a new language... they are trying to learn how to properly pronounce "Beijing" in ENGLISH! they are NOT trying to learn mandarin.
i know u bitch. and i was being nice. can't you just take a compliment? or do you have to create friction and conflict? well, whatever. ur not important to me anyway.
I though YOU were being sarcastic. Well, then I'm sorry.. And no, normally not - but I guess I was just expecting a rude comment from you. Sorry, lets just forget about this? :)
Moreover, imagine how ludicrous it would sound if, in the middle of an English language newscast or sportscast, English-speaking broadcasters started inserting the word "Beijing," pronounced precisely as the Chinese would say it. It would be inappropriate and totally farcical. The aim of this video is to teach English-speakers to say Beijing in ENGLISH without making it sound French, or for that matter, too Chinese and overly Chinky. 三人行必有我師焉
The description of this video clearly indicates that they are promoting a better ENGLISH pronunciation of "Beijing," NOT teaching the precise Mandarin Chinese pronunciation. Thus, they do not insist on the use of tones, nor do they make the fine distinction between an English "Jing" (as in jingle bells) and a true Mandarin "Jing" (closer to a 'jeeng'). Any criticism based on that distinction may be linguistically valid, but it misses the point of the video entirely.
It's ironic that you think I'm ironic, since I grew up in China and speak perfect Mandarin. In Chinese "Zhing" is different from "Jing", the way they pronounced it in the video is Zhing (in Chinese pinyin) but not the correct "Jing" (pinyin).
I believe that the prenouciation in the video is adequate and coherent. The prenouncation "zhing" does not exist in the pinying vocabulary, and the closest sound to it is Jing. Ironically enough, you're fluent in Manderin, yet misinterpretted a 'jing' for a non-existant pinying. Put lets put aside the argument, (L)China. =)
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Of course I know "ZHING" is non-existent in Pinyin, do you really think I need you to tell me that? The way they pronounced it is not JING, it's exactly "ZHING", which doesn't exist in Mandarin and is incorrect.
what do you mean they pronounced it "zhing"? there s no way to say "zhing"... it simply cannot be pronounced... u are just trying to create arguments... and clearly you are WRONG! are you from Beijing? cause i know that the "perfect" mandarin u brag about may not be as perfect as you think... if ur not from beijing u probably have some kind of regional accent...
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Yes I grew up in Beijing, but that's irrelavant, any Chinese who speak good Mandarin would have noticed that they pronounced it like ZHING not JING. It is possible to say "zhing", just take "zh" and "ing" and combine them together, it's non-existent in pinyin, but that's exatcly how these two gentlemen pronounced it. That's why I said it's not the right pronunciation.
It has always annoyed me when people pronounced it "Bayzhing" as if it were French or something. Wish they'd learn that Chinese is made of seperate syllables and characters.
Thank you for your comment. An unnamed (former) employee in the Two Chinese Characters graphics department has since been sent to a re-education camp in sunny Xinjiang for "reform through labour" 劳改 for the crime of posting a map of China that neglected to include Taiwan. Those pesky splittists! 祖国万岁!
Somehow I think that the media people were told to pronounce it with the ZH sound. Right? The reporters find out what is going on in Beijing, like how the hometowners say their city? And as reporters, they would report and then use BEI JING. But nooooooooo... I bet they would go to Chicago and call it Chicagotown, instead of Chicagoland. Maybe they would even say ZHicagotown!
When he said Jingoism and started to wave the US flag, I lost my shit. I found that quite entertaining.
Good video, guys.
Totenschaedel98 4 months ago
the pronunciation of "Beijing" with a "zh" sound is one of my biggest pet peeves!
mzsimmonz 5 months ago
THANK YOU for finally telling the world how to pronounce Beijing! Jesus if i had a nickle for every time I have heard Beizhing, I would be a RICH man :)
MrCrimsonpanda 7 months ago
In Italian we say "Pechino"
Aleks91Me 8 months ago
Bay jing...... that was easy enough!
bajatango 11 months ago
Why in God's name was this EVER romanized "Peking"?
It doesn't sound like that at all!
UdallIn72 11 months ago
@UdallIn72 Note that they pronounce Bei as something like Pei. Many centuries ago, "Pei" was only "Pe", while "jing" was pronounced like "king" in that region of China. The first Europeans in China knew in that way, Peking, and transmited so to the west. Later, native Chinese changed pronunciation to "pei" and "jing". It's represented with B and not P, because pinyin (the writing system to traslate phonetically Chinese) use "B" for "P". And so, Beijing.
Tasarte 4 months ago
Cantonese exist before Mandarin by 2000 years and we say it bakging =) Southern Chinese dialects are closer to Middle age Chinese. Mandarin is highly affected by Manchurian language during 清 dynasty phonetically.
danielairy 1 year ago
2 mins to learn how to pronounce 2 syllables. It was entertaining.
kentpaul65102 1 year ago
haha at the chinese guys french accent! thanks for this vid and showing the tones :)
worldtravel101 1 year ago
COOL way of teaching i love it!!
^_^ u get to learn easier and FUN
LOLOLOL
meanian610 1 year ago
LMAO "I teach Chinese...I AM Chinese" xD That cracked me up hahaha
onigiri013 2 years ago 14
@onigiri013
YEAH exactly XD
i laughed the shit outa myself before even seeing the characters for beijing XD
Guidus125 1 year ago
北京
AFNYOAQIS 2 years ago
HILARIOUS, you guys. :D !!!
Birdboy029 2 years ago
It's still pronounced as Peking (to be more specific, "pe-kin") in Japanese.
I love seeing the correlations between Japanese and Chinese. They are both very interesting languages.
bnmjy 2 years ago
Or jingoism! *shake shake*
Gnickk 2 years ago 5
You guys rock!
wikct2 2 years ago 3
yea, the "j" sound in "jing" is definitely not a normal american j sound. The teeth don't come together.
Its more pronounced more like "gyung" but with the instead of the "g" sound at the beginning you need to touch your tongue to the top of your mouth (so it sounds more like a j, but not quite).
Er...at least this is the uber-northern accented way of pronouncing it.
bidufu 2 years ago 3
baytjing
LenovoFightsPoverty 2 years ago
lol funny but they forgot to mention about the tones
thatpianoguy2009 2 years ago 2
I liked it a lot when the Bei and Jing were getting close to one another. FUNNY. haha
jamesbondrocks 2 years ago 4
the chinese guy's english is just as good as an american ! :O
iCHUYY 2 years ago
Oh my god! People can learn other languages and become proficient! It's a revelation!
ugrage 2 years ago 7
i would say his English sounds like an American born Chinese~
kimo3920 2 years ago
@kimo3920 I know Chinese born people who can speak English this well, too.
antiaverage1 1 year ago
It´ s funny, but do we really need 2 min. just to learn how to say Beijing???
GypsyfromCzech 2 years ago
You'd be surprised at how hard it can be for non-Madarin speakers to pronounce simple phrases =P
OaJien 2 years ago
**non-Mandarin
OaJien 2 years ago
B... b... be... Beijing! ^_^
nousernameremain 2 years ago
how do you pronounce Bangkok?
wiseye61 2 years ago
You say it how you spell it
But if you want to sound posh.. say Krung-Thep (Kroog-Tep) :D
LuxordYuuki 2 years ago
lol cool. I heard it has the longest name of any city.
wiseye61 2 years ago
Yup the full name is like really long :D
Krung Thep Mahanakhon Amon Rattanakosin Mahinthara Ayuthaya Mahadilok Phop Noppharat Ratchathani Burirom Udomratchaniwet Mahasathan Amon Piman Awatan Sathit Sakkathattiya Witsanukam Prasit.
It actually is. They normally go Krung Thep, or Krung Thep Mahanakorn in formal situations :D
LuxordYuuki 2 years ago
thanks for your pronounce.
920306915003 2 years ago
Welcome to Beijing!
evephantom 3 years ago
good job!
abseed 3 years ago
O_O
independentx0x0 3 years ago
I have a louisiana creole accent so I am sad 2 hear that I will never pronounce Beijing correctly, since all my "J"s are "zhay."
slharris1984 3 years ago
hmm... I disagree with the statement "Jing" pronounces the same as in "Jingle". The "J" in Chinese is a different sound than "J" in English. Since there is nothing with the same sound in English "J" as in "Jingle" is close enough. (My mother tongue is Mandarin.)
yoghurthu 3 years ago
agreed. But most of my English-speaking friends can never pronounce 'J' in the Chinese way. So this (J as in Jingle) is the best I can accept :)
evephantom 3 years ago
Jesus loves the Chinese. He made so many of them.
rayandsan 3 years ago 3
Peking is an old calling of beijing~~
Rockieoo 3 years ago
isn't Peking the Cantonnese way for saying Beijing ?
jellydounut 3 years ago
NO it's not.its an old english calling.longlong time ago,maybe in the 13th century,the city really named beijing,but in the early of 20th century,beijing北京 was called beiping北平 because of the KMTs decision peking sounds like beiping... so....
Rockieoo 3 years ago
@Rockieoo Nope, nothing to do with Cantonese, and everything to do with the Wade Giles system of writing Chinese into European letters.
Beijing = pinyin
Peking = Wade Giles
both were meant to be pronounced in as in the video.
canalrats 1 year ago
Cantonese would be "Bak Ging"
inudracco 3 years ago 2
more "buk Ging"
jdiddy666 3 years ago
no, more to 'bud ging'
maldova 3 years ago
@jellydounut No, Peking is the Wade Giles system of writing the characters for Beijing. The 'b' is slightly softer than in English and the 'j' is slightly further forward in the mouth so this system was meant to show that.The Chinese never said "Peking", Europeans just wrote it that way. But someone who knew the Wade Giles system would have pronounced it Beijing.
canalrats 1 year ago
in germany most people say "peking", but "beijing" gets more and more popular
bireman 3 years ago
But some countries say Peking instead of Beijing..
Is there any diffrnt?
ole12boy 3 years ago
blaaaaaaaah saw it too late
arneliis 3 years ago
I knew it was jing, and not zhing. I learned that in my basic Mandarin classes, so I KNEW IT was BEI JING. So where did all the MSM reporters get that ZHING? From Karl ROZHE? snicker.
Great piece of work, guys!!!
TuboEspectador 3 years ago
wow cool you realy corrected me thanks guys
johnson6689 3 years ago
Fantastic, guys, and thanks. Who's going to correct the NBC commentator who, inevitably, will speak about the rigorous "regime" (ray-ZHEEM) that the athletes have undertaken in their training?
ThadMemphis 3 years ago
SNAP! I didn't know I (and everyone at NBC) have been pronouncing it wrong this whole time. Thanks, Two Chinese Characters!
oceansof 3 years ago
I don't know why they even mention the French. In that language the name of the city is Pékin.
allegromarcato 3 years ago
They mention French because the way that many people pronounce Beijing is like this "Beizhing" as in the word "beige", which is of French origin.
DeadBodyDysposal 3 years ago
Love it! Thanks for the clarity. You should do more lessons.
56okvek 3 years ago
I too get annoyed with presenters miss pronouncing Beijing. But let's not forget that the Italian that opened the Sydney Olympics miss pronounced Sydney pronouncing it Sydeney. Also Aussies pronounce Million as Miwion. They leave out the L's. Also many presenters are miss pronouncing the word OLYMPICS of all words. They are pronouncing the word as Alypmics. So the are saying welcome back to the Beissing Alypmics.
shanemiller12121212 3 years ago
wow, yeah. how can something so simple become so wrong... beizhing?...
jhicks1289 3 years ago
Ah I though that too when people started sayin beizhing, im like, its chinese not french morons
xXJEproductionsXx 3 years ago
Arrrgh, I've been wrong all this time! Oh well...
poofysheep 3 years ago
an "E," not a "E." I couldn't resist.
GTGCleoDara 3 years ago
Oops, you're right! Hehe
kimbrakay 3 years ago
This is such a non-issue it's ridiculous. First of all, it is entirely unnecessary to say "Beijing" with the proper Mandarin tones, because we're NOT speaking Mandarin! If you're speaking English and you start using tones for Chinese names, you'll sound ridiculous. Yes, the right consonants should be used, but this is making a mountain out of a molehill. It's like telling an American to roll their "r"s when they say "burrito" in a Mexican restaurant. Why, if you're not speaking Spanish?
lechatnoir1977 3 years ago
Ehh, the NBC announcers are constantly mispronouncing "Beijing".I think this issue is blown way out of proportion. But, the olympics ARE being held in Beijing so it must be pretty annoying to the people living there that the announcers cant even pronounce the name of the capital correctly.
DeadBodyDysposal 3 years ago
I think by zhing, they mean the "j" like sound in the word "beige". like people say "beige-ing" instead of "bay-jing". They just kinda slur it over. Hence the part when they make reference to the french language, because that sound, like the word "beige" is french.
kerflibbleflabble 3 years ago
also, can we get people to say Chow MEIN instead of Chow "MAIN." Where do you get the "A" sound when there is a "E" in the word?
kimbrakay 3 years ago
for kimbrakay, people get the 'A' sound out of Chow MEIN because it DOES say that sound in the English language. Do the words 'EIGHT', 'SLEIGH', or 'FREIGHT' look at all familiar to you? As with Beijing, it's obvious, but with Chow Mein, it actually does comply with very common words that we all use.
silverslick101 3 years ago
The NBC broadcasters should watch this video! They have been prouncing it with the "zhing" the whole time!
cookmydinner 3 years ago
AAHAHAH!! GREAT VIDEO!
hillarywhore 3 years ago
Haha, that's hilarious -- "I teach chinese", "I am chinese" haha
djdust12 3 years ago 2
Instead of waving the US flag for jingoism perhaps it should be the Chinese flag? China is known for its extreme nationalism and belligerent foreign policy...exactly why some wanted to boycott the Olympics!
wkpettyjohn 3 years ago
That's a joke. Ppl in america get put in jail for not being "patriotic" enough (depending where you are). Also the US is the one of the top countries where they socialize ppl to be "american" and to disregard their culture STARTING IN GRADE SCHOOL! So don't BS yourself and next time be A LOT more socially aware of your own country before talking trash.
kkgemini86 3 years ago
rofl though i dont think ill ever be able to pronounce it right xD
shmcminn 3 years ago
The tv has hammered the wrong pronunciation in my head.
jonathanwindham 3 years ago 2
wow i have been saying it wrong all this time lol sry to anyone chinese i didnt mean disrespect in anyway i just idnt know
ZoneMilliardo 3 years ago
Wow.. great video! Thanks for this!
hotforwords 3 years ago
So funny and the two chinese characters are easy on the eyes. Jingoism...Ha! Hilarious!
MAguy30 3 years ago
Thanks for posting!
alizask 3 years ago
we had to watch this in Social Studies class!!!
LOL!!!
latiosslayer 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this. i must admit I've always pronounced it incorrectly. and love the jingoism part :)
truth7218 3 years ago
LOL @ the jingoism bit.
F33bs 3 years ago
i've never seen anyone miss pronounce the word.
ahsusmus 3 years ago
that's all well and good. have you ever HEARD anyone mispronounce the word?
caseyphx 3 years ago
I just sent this to all my friends who are mostly radio announcers, but maybe they can clue in those announcers on CNN or NBC...
It is really irritating to hear that french sounding pronunciation over and over and over again from newscasters.
djmimi1 3 years ago
Thanks guys! Nice video!
bigjonny1992 3 years ago
Haha! This was brilliant! Thanks for your highly engaging edutainment!
ReverendDuck 3 years ago
Thanks for the video. An English "j" is a much better approximation to the Mandarin pronunciation than a French one. Why do people think because a word's foreign, it must be pronounced as in French? (I'm surprised it's the case in the US, though, where I thought Spanish was more widely taught than French, unlike the UK.)
You could have mentioned tones too, although (as people have pointed out) I realise it's not supposed to be a complete guide to correct Mandarin pronunciation.
jrawle 3 years ago
Thanks for the info... And explaining the two charactors makes it even easier to remember! As a Flight Attendant, I go to Beijing quite often... It is IRRITATING to hear BAYSHZING!!!!!! Long live Bay-JING!
scottnjim 3 years ago
。。。can you pronounce "京" correctly?
you pronounce it like a "zhing"
don't mislead others.
songzephyr 3 years ago
They're teaching the ENGLISH pronunciation of jing, not the Chinese pronunciation of 京.
The English "j" sound that they use is correct and accepted as the closest approximation of the "j" sound in Mandarin Chinese. It's not exactly the same, which is why it still sounds a bit like "zh" to you.
The video is aimed toward English speakers who say "Beijing" MORE incorrectly than they need to -- saying a full-fledged French "zh" sound, instead of just pronouncing the "j" that's right in the word.
talkinfrankly 3 years ago 2
anyways, why not tell them how to pronounce j q x exactly in Chinese instead of teaching "English" one?
If someone wants to learn a language, he/she should get some information that is correct from the instructor at least.
songzephyr 3 years ago
well, i have to say that your English is very good, and I want to know how long have you been to the States.
songzephyr 3 years ago
I agree with songzephyr. When I wanna learn a new language, I wanna learn the real version - not the english version.
trinetis 3 years ago
they aren't trying to learn a new language... they are trying to learn how to properly pronounce "Beijing" in ENGLISH! they are NOT trying to learn mandarin.
hillarywhore 3 years ago
well well, arent we mrs know it all..
trinetis 3 years ago
mr. know it all thank you very much.
hillarywhore 3 years ago
aah okay. too bad your name is hillary then.
trinetis 3 years ago
ahahahahah!! that was funny! im a supporter of Hillary Clinton. lol
im not even gonna be a smart ass to you cause that was hilarious!!
hillarywhore 3 years ago
I know. I was being sarcastic, stupid.
trinetis 3 years ago
i know u bitch. and i was being nice. can't you just take a compliment? or do you have to create friction and conflict? well, whatever. ur not important to me anyway.
hillarywhore 3 years ago
I though YOU were being sarcastic. Well, then I'm sorry.. And no, normally not - but I guess I was just expecting a rude comment from you. Sorry, lets just forget about this? :)
trinetis 3 years ago
sure. i didn't want it to go in the direction of negativity to begin with. all is forgotten =)
hillarywhore 3 years ago
And I dont even remember how this started :p
Cool that you support Hillary C. by the way.
trinetis 3 years ago
y thanks! ...too bad she lost =(
hillarywhore 3 years ago
Yeah really.. But I hope she runs again some day.
trinetis 3 years ago
it is my belief that she will. i just hope america realizes what a mistake we are making right now.
hillarywhore 3 years ago
"learn"? "teach", you mean ? I think you are right, tho. They are teaching the correct derivation of the local accent. Good point.
TuboEspectador 3 years ago
they aren't trying to learn a new language!! they just want to know how do pronounce one damn word. quit being a dick.
hillarywhore 3 years ago
I agree
Spaetza 3 years ago
ok, ok, the local pronunciation is more of an affricate than a fricative... But the MSM pronunciation is like singing a great song FLAT.
TuboEspectador 3 years ago
This is too awesome.
keelan111 3 years ago 3
<3 <3
thedancingmole 3 years ago 3
Bay Jean
patrickxu 3 years ago
Moreover, imagine how ludicrous it would sound if, in the middle of an English language newscast or sportscast, English-speaking broadcasters started inserting the word "Beijing," pronounced precisely as the Chinese would say it. It would be inappropriate and totally farcical. The aim of this video is to teach English-speakers to say Beijing in ENGLISH without making it sound French, or for that matter, too Chinese and overly Chinky. 三人行必有我師焉
sheridanliu 3 years ago
The description of this video clearly indicates that they are promoting a better ENGLISH pronunciation of "Beijing," NOT teaching the precise Mandarin Chinese pronunciation. Thus, they do not insist on the use of tones, nor do they make the fine distinction between an English "Jing" (as in jingle bells) and a true Mandarin "Jing" (closer to a 'jeeng'). Any criticism based on that distinction may be linguistically valid, but it misses the point of the video entirely.
sheridanliu 3 years ago 2
It's Bei Jing, NOT BEI ZHING....but anyway...
hellowjp 3 years ago
That's correct; that's exactly the point they make in this video.
talkinfrankly 3 years ago 8
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No, the way they pronounced Beijing in the video is NOT 100% correct either. I'm Chinese, so I know.
hellowjp 3 years ago
exactly!
slipiak 3 years ago 3
ironic how hellowjp is trying to teach
omgitsmejeff 3 years ago 3
It's ironic that you think I'm ironic, since I grew up in China and speak perfect Mandarin. In Chinese "Zhing" is different from "Jing", the way they pronounced it in the video is Zhing (in Chinese pinyin) but not the correct "Jing" (pinyin).
hellowjp 3 years ago
I believe that the prenouciation in the video is adequate and coherent. The prenouncation "zhing" does not exist in the pinying vocabulary, and the closest sound to it is Jing. Ironically enough, you're fluent in Manderin, yet misinterpretted a 'jing' for a non-existant pinying. Put lets put aside the argument, (L)China. =)
omgitsmejeff 3 years ago 4
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Of course I know "ZHING" is non-existent in Pinyin, do you really think I need you to tell me that? The way they pronounced it is not JING, it's exactly "ZHING", which doesn't exist in Mandarin and is incorrect.
hellowjp 3 years ago
what do you mean they pronounced it "zhing"? there s no way to say "zhing"... it simply cannot be pronounced... u are just trying to create arguments... and clearly you are WRONG! are you from Beijing? cause i know that the "perfect" mandarin u brag about may not be as perfect as you think... if ur not from beijing u probably have some kind of regional accent...
hillarywhore 3 years ago
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Yes I grew up in Beijing, but that's irrelavant, any Chinese who speak good Mandarin would have noticed that they pronounced it like ZHING not JING. It is possible to say "zhing", just take "zh" and "ing" and combine them together, it's non-existent in pinyin, but that's exatcly how these two gentlemen pronounced it. That's why I said it's not the right pronunciation.
hellowjp 3 years ago
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And by ZHING, I mean the "zhing" you would pronounce in pinyin, not in English, if you know the difference.
hellowjp 3 years ago
But of course, it's better than pronouncing it like a french "j"
hellowjp 3 years ago 2
Fabulous!! Please make more videos!!
corabim 3 years ago 4
Thankyou for this.:)
It has always annoyed me when people pronounced it "Bayzhing" as if it were French or something. Wish they'd learn that Chinese is made of seperate syllables and characters.
AAMLfan 3 years ago 6
Best video on YouTube.
s4xton 3 years ago 4
Please use a correct chinese map..
nanxixi 3 years ago
Thank you for your comment. An unnamed (former) employee in the Two Chinese Characters graphics department has since been sent to a re-education camp in sunny Xinjiang for "reform through labour" 劳改 for the crime of posting a map of China that neglected to include Taiwan. Those pesky splittists! 祖国万岁!
sheridanliu 3 years ago
good work!
kongtube 3 years ago 3
Finally!!! You go, guys!
PamChun 3 years ago 4
Hooray! Perhaps some media people will see this and stop saying it with the wrong 'j' sound. :)
cetuscript 3 years ago 4
Somehow I think that the media people were told to pronounce it with the ZH sound. Right? The reporters find out what is going on in Beijing, like how the hometowners say their city? And as reporters, they would report and then use BEI JING. But nooooooooo... I bet they would go to Chicago and call it Chicagotown, instead of Chicagoland. Maybe they would even say ZHicagotown!
TuboEspectador 3 years ago
oh...hey, it's John!!
april0926 3 years ago
Bravo~~~
star375008 3 years ago