ReACT Mugen: Shiki and Arcueid vs. Saber and Archer

[ShrikeRisen]

Shiki can see death lines and points on Servants because what he "kills" is the meaning and not the individual. It's kind of like how Gae Bolg reverses cause and effect; however, Shiki can never defeat a Servant end on. He can only win through assassination. Luckily for him, that's what the Nanaya family specializes at.

[AnimeCrazzy]

wheres the evidence that arc is stronger than any servant. I hate all these Shiki vs Shirou debates, lets be honest, Shirou would pwn the fuck out of him. If you included ALL details from all games, theres to much to prove or disprove unless typemoon says something themseleves. As far as im concerned Shiki wouldn't even be able to see the deathlines of servants because they don't exist, i mean take Saber she is a legend, literally born from a story, how can you see deathlines of something that..

[AnimeCrazzy]

doesn't exist in the first place, a legend or story merely exists as a thing in itself, it's like saying Shiki can cut through oxygen by seeing the deathlines of the cells of oxygen, or kill someones beleifs by stabbing them somewhere in the head lol... Like that doujin of him 1 hitting berserker which shit stormed a ton of controversy, and i'll say again that was also bullshit, not mentioning he wouldn't even see his lines, lets just SUPPOSE, that even if Shiki could see the lines of a servant.

[AnimeCrazzy]

People try to use examples, like Tsukihime, there is Roa, Ciel and Chaos who all have somewhat immortality in their own ways. But i've always stressed that Berserkers lives are on a completely different level. Chaos has 666 lives existing all at the same time, that ultimately accounts to one life with Shiki's power, but they are all there at the same time. Then theres Ciel who reverses time, which makes no difference if she is destroyed instantly,which Shiki does in a bad end of Tsukihime to her

[AnimeCrazzy]

My point has always been the fact that, Berserker uses one life at a time, he does not merely have 12 lives that all exist at the same time. So yeh my theory would be more like Shiki would still have to kill him 12 seperate times regardless of even if he could see his lines. Yes i know Shirou one hits him with nine life blade works, but as explained thats somewhat like heavens feels shirous reality marble, and is also magic, Shiki can't use magic for shit.

[LreoSan]

Arc is powerfull enought to fight 2 or 3 servants at the same time, Kinoko Nasu state that himself. She IS type moon after all and as far as i understand being Type Moon means that Akasha will always provide her with enought strenght to defeat the enemy she face. And Shiki vs Shirou will be a close one, i will vote for Shiki but that is just me. Shiki vs a Servant is a instant win for the servant as Kinoko Nasu state that only Aoko and Kuoma will be the only two humans that can face a Servant.

[LreoSan]

Ciel can only try a def battle. But lets face it, the real outcome of the match between Shiki and Shirou will be the tohno gland taking Saber away from Shirou and Shirou killing himself. XD. Sorry for my english.

[UchihaMadara0727]

@LreoSan

Arc's not Type-Moon yet, otherwise she would cease being Arcueid Brunestud and become Crimson Moon

[OmegaChosen0]

Shirou Long Range-Shiki is screwed

Shiki Cutting Range-Bye Shirou

...if hte girls get hang of this fight....OMG! the biggest catfight evah! Xept is Arc goes Warc on everyone..if then they are pretty much screwed

[OmegaChosen0]

You people tend to forget no matter how HAX Saber is..Arcueid wil always pwn her with ease..A servant´s power is aproximatedly 30% of 100% Arc

[Szriko]

Shiki can't kill even projected Noble Phantasms without the universe imploding, so they more than likely have no lines or dots. So all Shirou has to do is project. Arcueid may be stronger than a servant, but she'd still be pretty hosed against Excalibur/EA, or even just GIRUGAMESH's sword rain. Similiarly, they'd pretty much all be screwed in either Unlimited Blade Works, as Reality Marbles are supposed to be GOD TIER regardless of who uses them.

[icejokercool]

This is uuuum. Wild O.O make more :D

[TSirDiesAlot]

wheres the unlimited blade works man D:

[mugenking48]

i like it but tooo loud?!;)!!

[xcrazypopsx]

What is the music playing during the fight? PLZ tell 0.o

[NarutoReb0rn]

EMIYA#0 from Fate/Another Score soundtrack.

[TheGreatCandyman]

If it was regular Shiki i would say Shirou would win, but if it was "Nanaya" Shiki, with his heighten physical abilities (especially speed) and natural killer instincts, i would bet on Shiki any day. Of course, the creators can make anything happen, im just making speculations base on my knowledge of what each character possess.

[JacobK01]

Shiki = wild card with insta kill (unless the enemy is deathless and/or not of this "world")

Nanaya = rape, but no death perception (yay for kagetsu tohya)

Shiro = fun to watch?

Shiro (UBW) = possibly epic

Shiro (HF) = wtf [dammit release the damn patch]

From what I hear, Arc is supposed to be stronger than a servant

blah blah spam spam *watches vid*

[Resbo321]

Shiki is obviously "stronger" than Shirou, since no matter how strong a weapon Shirou makes, Shiki can kill it in an instant

[Crisis7]

Where's your proof? Shiki never fought Shirou nor vice versa, so you can't say anything true,

[brocklock09]

There is no answer to this question. It really comes down to who would wear out first. Does Shiki's mind collapse from using his eyes too much? We know he can't take it for too long when not in "Nanaya mode" as I call it. Does Shiro run out of energy? I mean, UBW has to be a bitch to keep up. Too many questions, and until Type Moon gives us all an orgasm in the form of Fate/Tsukihime combined fighting game, we can only imagine.

[tobethelegend]

Unlimited Blade Works wouldn't work against Shiki.. he would kill the reality marble itself if he wanted to

[brocklock09]

The strain that would put on his eyes would be so bad he'd probably die. I mean, hell, "Reality" is a concept, he can barely kill poison without being hospitalized for a week.

[TekkenIdiot]

Shiki can use his eyes and see the weak spots of material and beings, so yes, he can kill anyone and destroy everything

[Crisis7]

Now That is IF HE CAN HIT IT!!! Not only that but using the dots drain Shiki's powers. He almost went blind when he killed the poison in kohaku!

[UchihaHyugaKazuya]

Nasu said that Shiki wouldn't be able to kill a Servant because of his limited physical ability, but everything else is fair game. Actually in a TYPE/MOON crossover, I forgot the name, but it's a legit game, Shiki kills Beserker a few times.

[Crisis7]

You mean Battlemoon Wars? That isn't even canon. It was just balancing the game, if servants were unable to be killed by Shiki or etc, it would be unfair.

[brocklock09]

I think he's takling about Type Moon Complex or something along those lines. It's basically a doujin where the Tsuki cast owns Fate without lifting a finger. For example, Ciel kills Rider without breaking a sweat. Very biased.

[Sephlock]

Well, didn't Kuzuki wtfpwn Roa?  Thats SOMETHING at least :P.

[final909]

whoa man where did you get the stage?

[MaiHayami]

You'll have to ask a friend of mine, he made the stage. I'll have to contact him later about something anyway.

[final909]

i see then can you tell him that can he sent me that stage if you don't mind...

[NarutoReb0rn]

The stage is called Moonlit Battle by Saiyajin Mui. You can get it from Mugen Infantry.

[MaiHayami]

Pretty much. Though it is called Moonlit Battle V2 I think.

[cloud0405]

HOLY CRAP! Where did you get this? Could you tell me where? OxO;

[NarutoReb0rn]

Get what? lol

The game? o.o

[AmpaoKing]

OMG what the heck is that is is...AWESOME!!!! but why Fate/stay night has defeat by melty blood. Saber & archer has a strong skill but shiki & arcuied(unstopple tag in fight) was easy to take down! o well in case good video pal ^_^!