Senator Sylvia Allen: "The earth is 6000 years old". Twice.

[tellnet]

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Idiots elect Idiots..

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[ChipArgyle]

Americans, what do you think will eventually happen to your country if you insist on electing superstitious fools like this to office to set your government policies for you?

[cyberpup1000]

Glad I dont live in America!!

[godsson4ever]

you tell them its only 6000 years old 

[winterstellar]

There are equal rights and opportunities in America, that's for sure! Even the mentally challenged/retarded can become successful politicians!! : )

[baalisgod666]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Only in America.

[TacoBurgher327]

She Banged Kent Hovind. Twice. 

[Arainion]

Yeah, she's right. I want her to be a prime minister of the world. How can anybody believe in that stupid evolution. Only retarded atheists.

[Reasonwillwin]

@Arainion Instead of just saying evolution is false could you please provide vidence against it? Evidence that isn't that book written by uneducated villagers called the bible?

[Arainion]

@Reasonwillwin Evidence is in science, in our experience and in history, either you will recognize it, or not. In that case, you are a lover of a lie and hater of the truth. Only blind or ignorant don't see it. I hope you are just ignorant, so you can fix it.

[Reasonwillwin]

@Arainion '' Evidence is in science'' There are no evidence for a young earth creation, either you provide evidence for that nonsense or you stop spreading your religious diatribes.

[Arainion]

@Reasonwillwin No, you said first that creationism is bullshit. You then, provide evidence, or stop saying that. I have never seen any evidence from evolutionist side. They just take speeches as long and as confusing as possible, but never get to the point. I know them.

[Reasonwillwin]

@Arainion ''you said first that creationism is bullshit. You then, provide evidence'' Well the burden of proof is on your side buddy SORRY! Numerous dating methods have proven the earth to be billions of years old, just the fact that we can see stars proves that this planet wasn't created 6000 years ago. The oldest plants on this planet are more than 10 000 of years old. Just open a science book once in a while doofus.

[Arainion]

@Reasonwillwin That's not true. It was not proven. You cannot prove age of anything. You should open evolutionary paleonthology book and you should know it. Even evolutionists say that so stop insulting me.

[Reasonwillwin]

@Arainion ''You cannot prove age of anything.'' Yes you can sir, using various dating methods (radiometric,carbon dating and many more methods), I don't know where you got the RIDICULOUS idea that we couldn't date anything but no scientists will ever tell you that it's impossible, you have been severely misinformed. The is plain ignorance.

[TacoBurgher327]

@Arainion Ya, dude, there are pleanty of ways to date the earth, plus, if you want to state something ins't true, you must also provide a better theory for the evidence. That's how science works. You can't just say "I don't like this, so its not true."

And I'd agree with Reason in stating the burdon of proof is on you. I can't disprove bigfoot, does that mean we should study and learn more about bigfoot?? Of Course not AND I don't need a reason NOT to believe in him.

[baalisgod666]

@Arainion go and suck gods tiny flacid cock.

[adam11mpls]

@Arainion Only the smartest people in the world that had the best educations in some of the best schools on the planet that have hundreds of years of research with multiple sources of evidence. Who is the retarded one here?

[Arainion]

@adam11mpls You are the retarded one here. Bye.

[adam11mpls]

@Arainion Really am I? So, you think atheists are retarded except when your sick?

[Arainion]

@adam11mpls You said it yourself, really you are. I think atheists faith is retarded because it's so stupid. It goes against all the evidence.

[adam11mpls]

@Arainion You're a poe aren't you?

[adam11mpls]

@MrWaterman080 That was a stupid comment.

[fehercristiandorin]

so nothing exploded and created everything ... not so much sense out there :)

[Reasonwillwin]

@fehercristiandorin It wasn't an explosion you fucking uneducated imbecile.

[adam11mpls]

@fehercristiandorin It wasn't a fucking explosion you fool. All the matter in the universe was compressed into a small size but about 14 billion years ago it rapidly expanded. Get that not a fucking explosion. You believe that god always existed and he created everything out of nothing. Hypocrite. I doubt you understood a word I said with your second grade vocabulary.

[fehercristiandorin]

@adam11mpls :) luckily for me I studied the topic in College and it is an explosion of that so little dot that now became a nothing...luckily I've also learned to think freely back in the days ;) now u got to explain to me from where the matter came from,,, how elements evolved..(u can have stars before having elements so no start fusion ).. how life begun from non life... if anybody ever sow an animal change to another and an example of DNA mutation that is not a loss from initial DNA ..thank u

[adam11mpls]

@fehercristiandorin Why have I heard heard scientists say it isn't a explosion? Why when I read about the big bang it never mentions an explosion? I'm not a physicist or any type of scientist and neither are you. People who graduate college especially those who study something complex like this learn spelling, grammar and know how to use ellipses. Why don't you rewrite your comment into something I can read.

[fehercristiandorin]

@adam11mpls haha so u got no proofs..I wonder why all evolutionists when asked for a proof get so angry.... besides I don't think u are able to write/speak more languages then me so please show some respect ;) this is science vs religion debates and until evolution get some proofs ain't gona be nothing more then an extra religion ;)

[MrWaterman080]

Athiests are the only people I consider more close-minded than a creationist.

The way I see it..

Agnostic: 10 x n = ? I am fully aware I cannot know the answer. God may exist or may not.

Athiesm: 10 x n = ( ) The answer (God) CANNOT exist, as I don't see one.

Creationism: 10 x n = GOD. I cannot think for myself, so I blindly accept someone elses answer.

Anyone agree?

[riotguards]

@MrWaterman080 atheist are not closed minded, you presume that every atheist knows there are no gods

an atheist in general just doesn't believe in a god/s due to a lack of evidence, provide the evidence and said person MAY believe, it's as simple as that

[MrWaterman080]

@riotguards No, your wrong. To be an Athiest is to completely deny the existence of a diety or god or whatever you want to call it. If your going to declare yourself an Athiest, maybe you should research what it means instead of assuming knowledge. What you consider to be "an Athiest in general" is not an Athiest whatsoever. In the future don't end your comments with "It's as simple as that" if you have no idea what your talking about.

[riotguards]

@MrWaterman080

well the Greeks were the first to declare what an Atheist was, atheos (Greek word) is one without god, that does not declare that the person chooses to fully close out any notion of a god but that the person simple does not believe in any deity, i did my research unless you can provide evidence to suggestion that people before the Greeks actually declared what atheist believe then go ahead and provide evidence that shows you are right

Google " atheist definition by Greeks "

[MrWaterman080]

@riotguards Well my apologizes for not referencing the Greek meaning of athiest, but maybe it's because I live in Canada and I use the Western meaning of words.

[riotguards]

@MrWaterman080

you do know that the Greek civilization actually provided the building blocks of what western society is built on, everything from democracy (the very thing that allows you to speak freely).

unless you wish to use the christian words which consist of these phrases "god = real" "god is real, nuff said" , etc then we won't bother talking

do your history mate, get your facts right before making me laugh at your bad attempts to rebuttal me

[fehercristiandorin]

@MrWaterman080 lol not even richard dawkings has a clue about how we got here... please spare me you are the ignorant who has been brainwashed...learn to think freely like me then see both options and see how one is a scam....u've been brainwashed seen childhood starting with "I can read about dinosaurs"... then "wow they lived millions of years ago".... that has to be proven and it can't be ;) check it out about circular reasoning strata indicate age for bones and bones inidcate age for strata

[adam11mpls]

@fehercristiandorin Read a fucking book on the subject there is a ton of proof. You're seem illiterate though so I doubt you'll be able to get past the 1st page.

[riotguards]

@fehercristiandorin

mate you never went to a college, let alone a science based education the fact that if that was a debate you would have used proper spelling

U = retarded, you = normal

the fact that you think that the big bang had something to do with evolution is way out of topic as well and just as stupid, something tells me your a troll because nobody would mix up cosmology and evolution in such a stupid comment

please pick up a book on evolution and actually read (not like your bible)

[eleminatus]

@fehercristiandorin change over time, natural selection, random mutation, homology, genetics, ancestral trees, fossil record etc these and many more facts of evolution are discussed and examined in over 250.000 peer reviewed papers all over the world. If you are ignorant enough to draw conclusions without examining even the basics of the topic, dont expect to be taken seriously! Simply by repeating evolution is false, you wont make it false!

[fehercristiandorin]

so nothing exploded and created everything ... not so much sense out there :)

[TacoBurgher327]

THIS is why we must fight creationists........

[44fastgun]

@TacoBurgher327 OK, where do you want to fight at?

[TacoBurgher327]

@44fastgun Well, if i name places in the REAL world, you may not know where they are, so CHURCH!!!!

[44fastgun]

@TacoBurgher327 I won't leave you disadvantaged, let's make it a church that bursted into a vacuum from an undetinated explosion, since that happens in the real world frequently, you'll have plenty of reference

[TacoBurgher327]

@44fastgun "since that happens in the real world frequently, " Sooooooo, we have big bangs all the time?? Surely, an event that happened throughout the whole universe would be seen my millions of people on earth. No?? it actually happened once, and it was an expansion, not a bang?? Psh, science........

[JimTLonW6]

Oh dear! Not just that she's such a thicko, it's that people are daft enough to vote for her....!

[radioactiveego]

And this is why American is last place in education. An IVY league law degree, and the IQ of oatmeal.

[ilikezappa]

This is a joke right ? Noone is really that dumb??? " The world is 6000 years old and it hasn`t been done away with yet "

Who voted for this slobbering cretin ? Oh , other slobbering cretins..............

[isabeats]

After hours of watching Al Jazeera's Egyptian coverage, then reading comments at Yahoo News, and then to see this has me almost suicidal! What the hell is wrong with this country?? More and more and more blatant stupidity and it just seems to flourish and grow! I don't know how much more I can take...

[leftyhoman]

She is right. The earth is around 6000 years old. Its obvious. I don't why most people close thier eyes to the overwhelming evidence against millions of year old theory. First of all. No one saw it happen. Second there is plenty evidence against it happening. And if your random chance. Guess what! Your life ain't worth anything. Shoot yourself. Your part of the problem! (Actually find out what your purpose is....because there is a reason) The world is far too complicated to have happened/chance

[electonicsforless]

@leftyhoman Youre a fucking dumb ass, If you think the there is an invisible guy floating on the clouds. You should kill yourself for being a dumb ass.

[leeharveyosmosis]

@leftyhoman

First off, "nobody saw it" is a lame excuse, think about how our justice system would work if that was the prevailing attitude(we'd have a lot of murderers walking around free.). That rationale destroys even your argument.

"The world is too complicated"--wouldn't the existence of a man who can create a dynamic and complex universe out his head be pretty complex himself? Wouldn't he need to have been created by someone higher than himself?

[Pomme843]

@leftyhoman You state that the world is too complicated to have happened by chance? How so? Are uncomplicated worlds somehow more likely? What logical link is there between simplicity and chance, or between complexity and design? Why, exactly, should a random world be uncomplicated?

[otaku3d]

@Pomme843 yes , the world is to complicated to have happened by chance... in 6,000 years.

dont forget, ther REALLY belive in the 6,000 number (including moon, sun, and stars).

millions of years are just to munch for that minds...

[YaMumYaNanYaGran]

She says that and not a PEEP from anybody in the room???? This is sickening!!!

[freakyphysicsguy]

Here's a great irony: the half-life of U-238, the most common isotope of uranium, is 4.47 billion years, almost exactly the age of the Earth. I find it ironic because uranium is the fuel used in most reactors in the US, although granted it is a different isotope (U-235) that actually provides most of the power.

[MG42pillbox]

Sad little sheeple bahhh bahhh bahhh believing in all the voodoo science that tells them the earth is a few billion years old. Congratulations on becoming a statistic.

[MaRsH2332]

@MG42pillbox The Earths 4.6 Billion years old, deal with it :)

[Karoke77]

Earth is over 4 billion years old.

Christians are idiots.

[keatano1]

Earth is 6000 years old!!!! Get it into your head. There has been more scientific proof the last year to proof 6000 years than billions of years. So basically, to all of you, keep up. You missed the boat and did not keep up with the latest science.......That is the reason why only 13% of people believe in evolution. A few years ago, 35% believed in evolution. All the proof is there, and this time it is logical, not guess work like has been done by evolutionists!!!!

[THADI0US]

@keatano1 Would you care to elaborate because I see a lot of claims but no evidence.

[MaRsH2332]

@keatano1 The Earth is 4.7 Billion years old, deal with it :)

[1234yersiman]

@keatano1 Meanwhile in reality, latest science does NOT say the earth is 6,000 years ago. Only religious ignorant bigots could say such a thing. What evidence is there for the earth being 6,000 years old anyways?

And do not tell me about the t-rex blood thing. That has been falsified already.

BTW, where DO you get your statistics anyways? In some evangelical school, where they discriminate against gays? Your stats are false and it is a waste of time to argue with a religious bigot like you.

[halflifeproductionz]

i can't believe this far right extremists is part of the political process in this country, just WOW!

[takkalkaka]

How do these idiots get elected? Idiots vote for them.

[beaviselectron]

All this idiot talks about is "lifestyle" and "revenue" and then has the audacity to claim we'll never know the mine was there. Typical God-centered, work-backwards-from-the-conclu­sion, short-sighted, greedy, money-grubbing politician, and naive and stupid beyond words to boot.

[DillonDee1]

Why are so many of these people in Arizona so stupid?

Is it something in the water?

[compsella]

dude, i thought that guy was coming over to fart in her face for saying the earth is 6,000 years old.

[gamingsoul11]

@compsella That would be great.

[provatoGR]

before big bang it was a god created by nothing..

lol

[steini937]

Well, she is not an idiot at all. The bible says its 6000 years old.

[FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7]

@steini937 and....

[y2zgt]

@steini937 LOL.

[vidguy007]

What? She's for real? Are the people of Arizona aware of this woman's mental condition?

[vidguy007]

Boy, the lefties are really good at making a smart woman with common sense look like an ignorant fool. lol

[1234yersiman]

@vidguy007 Smart in what way? Because she got elected?

Says Palin with her 2.68 GPA from high school.

[vidguy007]

@1234yersiman I think I was being sarcastic.

[fearguis]

Besides the fact that Christianity is disproven, I have noticed something both interesting and terrifying about it. It seems to me that Christians, for the most part, are actually just about everything that is moral and decent and/or loving. Take the environment, like this nutter's talking about. I find it odd that Christians seem to actually hate the planet, and actually get angry at the notion that we respect and care for it.

[fearguis]

@fearguis Meant to say "against just about anything that is moral and decent..."

[Wrath0fKhan]

shocking...

[riotguards]

christians + Uranium = heroshima

[Youngearthguy]

@riotguards Public education + internet = stupid posts

The VAST majority of the Manhattan project scientist were Jewish. They immigrated from Germany. It is called History...you may want to try reading it before you go posting again.

[riotguards]

@Youngearthguy man are you retarded or what

i never said the people on the manhatten project were christians, what i said was christians + nucluar weapons = mass destruction

or is that a little too hard to understand i mean it's 2 exstra words, and there can be a whole range of different meanings to a simple sentance

[Youngearthguy]

@riotguards In other words, when it comes to defending the nation, it takes Christians to deliver the blows that make the enemy surrender? So if left up to pagans we'd all be speaking Japanese?

Brilliant logic.

[riotguards]

@Youngearthguy man you seriously don't get it? your not playing retarded with me are you because if you are your playing a really good joke, or your trolling either one i'll exsplain

using this basic logic analisis

fire + hand = burns

with that logic it would be safe to say that

christians + weapons of mass destruction = mass death

it has nothing to do with events that are happening or whatever, the general message is that christians will KILL you if you do not accept there beliefs

[Youngearthguy]

@riotguards Yea...right... You may want to take you meds... Your "general message" just discredited your mental stability. Anything you have to say from now on has the neon light flashing "warning!! ramblings of a loon" hovering over it.

[riotguards]

@Youngearthguy ovious troll is ovious, please do us all a favior and cut your wrist so that you can go to your god, we don't need people like you on this world

ps you honestly think i never knew you were a troll, your name alone is a give away

[Youngearthguy]

@riotguards Go wet your bed in your parents basement you illiterate buffoon. "ovious troll is ovious" "favior"

Neon sign dude ...neon sign.

[riotguards]

@Youngearthguy

i'm neo thanks, i knew i held the truth and had to show people the way.

being that atheism is the true none belief i must be the one to get people away from the evil computers (aka religion in general)

[725672567256]

@riotguards Or you will die of HIV/AIDS because they made you NOT wear a condom.

[725672567256]

@riotguards sarah palin + uranium = ????

[riotguards]

@725672567256

well sarah palin believes in christianity so there fore

christians + urainum = heroshima

plus what are you talking about condoms?

[725672567256]

@riotguards i can't remember why i used the condom arguement, but basically it was about the catholic churches stance on nations ravaged with hiv, to not wear condoms. So it is less immoral to knowingly give someone hiv through unprotected sex than it is wear a condom.

[MrWaterman080]

@riotguards A proven calculation lmao

[opiates]

Fucking idiot.

[shelski1972]

Huh? How'd that retard manage to get into office>

[y2zgt]

@shelski1972 because the retards voted for her.

[1234yersiman]

@shelski1972 Think Palin

[rtydhg9q]

@shelski1972 Because 85% of the people who elected her claim belief in the cosmic jewish zombie......he's their buddy, ya know.

[biggingeryeti]

@shelski1972 Voted in by even bigger retards.

[HelplessVictim]

I just lost all faith in democracy...

[g12er]

How can anyone make good decisions if they can't accept scientific consensus in more than dozen fields.

Scientific illiteracy is just sad.

[charbroiledmonk1033]

sigh* thank god she is just a small time mayor...what? WHAT! A SENATOR! like one of the 100 people that pass bills in this country!!! oh fuck...this country is more screwed than i previously imagined.

[Tuckerjd]

You really should consider doing a little research before posting something on a public website that is entirely untrue, it really makes all who read your post find you an ignorant individual and dismiss your comment. Senator Allen is not one of the 100 people who pass bills in this country she is one of 30 Senators who represent the state of Arizona. If you want people to take you seriously do a little research.

[charbroiledmonk1033]

thats not a senator, its a representative, states dont have two houses. Besides, why would i put any research into a bullshit 1 minute vid? It said senator, and if thats a misnomer, i dont really give a fuck. FACT IS, she is borderline mentally retarded and should not be holding ANY public office. ASS.

[MetaLMunchies]

SUPER OWNAGE!

YOU ROCK!

HAHAHA... that sounds gay.. but kudos to you sir.

[drcrutch]

Arizona does have two houses--just like the federal level. She is a STATE Senator--not a federal Senator for the STATE of Arizona...Some states have one house; others have two.

[kubush]

One of 30 senators who represents Arizona??? LOL! You know that each state has only 2 senators,...right? You shouldn't be lecturing ppl on "research" when u yourself don't know the basics.

[drcrutch]

She is an ARIZONA STATE senator...not a United STATES Congressional Senator. That is the difference. A STATE vs. UNITED STATES CONGRESSIONAL Senator. That's the difference. You owe an apology.

[sycro]

No. Every state gets 2 senators, but they're not State Senators. State Senators come from different regions of the state to represent their constituents at the state level, not the federal level.

[drcrutch]

Once again, she is an Arizona STATE Senator...not a FEDERAL Senator for the STATE of Arizona. US Congressional Senators are NOT State Legislative Senators.. Every STATE has 2 FEDERAL Senators--in Washington D.C.; Arizona has a STATE legislature (in Phoenix) with State Represenatives and State Senators--NOT Federal Represenatitves and Federal Senators (of which there are 30 Arizona STATE Senators and 100 US Senators--2 from each State at the FEDERAL Level.

[drcrutch]

I left you an e-mail on your site. I hope it makes sense.

[TheOtherSide100]

Sadly, it seems that most people prefer to accept belief as fact, instead of looking at scientific evidence.

Science can be wrong and is open to scrutiny. This is why it always improves.

Religion is NOT open to scrutiny, which is why it fails.

The Bible also says the earth is flat and there are unicorns. But people ignore things like this, pick the parts they WANT to believe, and then call that "fact."

Anyone able to open a dictionary should know the meaning of "fact." Yet believers don't.

[Youngearthguy]

Secular scientist say the earth is 4.6 billions years old today.

In 1980 it was taught to be 4 billion...1960 it was only 2 billion, the 1940's text books said it was 1 billion, while in 1920 it was 500 million years old....way back in 1860 secularist said it was 62.5 million years old. The earth sure does age quickly according to the egghead Bible scoffers.

[geminyo]

As more precise methods of dating are devised, the calculation is re-run. Science corrects it's mistakes and admits when it was wrong. That's why it works.

[Ate0s]

I think everybody who read that just got a little bit stupider.

[myrmecia1977]

On the other hand we see that as the natural progression that results in studying and understanding the earth......... Oh thats right your not intrested in anything but thumping your bible.

[Youngearthguy]

Or we can use your math...nothing + time = everything

[CommonReason]

Do tell, what do we know about before the big bang? I'll save you the trouble: nothing.

Furthermore, I'd like to ask what your god came from... nothing?

[kubush]

Singularity = everything

But singularity is only a hypothesis at this point. The universe could be infinite for all we know. Check out the Big Bounce Theory.

[myrmecia1977]

You must have trouble balancing your budget.

[Youngearthguy]

Yep. Owning 2 different business as well as rental properties is difficult. That is why I have Quickbooks and a CPA....Let me explain, Quickbooks is accounting software for business. An Certified Public Accountant tells me how much taxes to pay so unemployable imbeciles can receive government checks. Anymore condescension genius?

[myrmecia1977]

And if your accountant uses the same lack of logic you do to generate numbers then other peoples taxes will pay for your food in jail.

[Youngearthguy]

so far so good...you just worry about flipping burgers. Leave the heavy thinking to others.

[myrmecia1977]

Someone who thinks that the earth is only thousands of years old would not know what thinking is let along heavy thinking.

[Youngearthguy]

Keep telling yourself that. I'll keep right on being the employer of people like you.

[myrmecia1977]

Thankfully my skill set means that I don't have to work for mcjobs with mcbosses like you.

[krismargett]

@Youngearthguy its maths not math. mathematics is plural. you do the "maths'.

that is all

[krismargett]

@Youngearthguy its maths not math. mathematics is plural. you do the "maths'.

that is all

[Youngearthguy]

@krismargett then you should say "mathematics are plural" not "mathematics is plural"

[crabbieappleton]

@Youngearthguy Or we can use YOUR math . . . no evidence for the existence of the supernatural + ancient book with virtually no historical reliability and loads of contradictory statements + a world rife with a violent struggle for survival = a caring, loving, perfect god made everything!

[Youngearthguy]

@crabbieappleton is that my math or your futile hope of disproving the Bible?

[1234yersiman]

@Youngearthguy That is not what we say you religious bigot, we say we do not know was before the rapid expansion of space and time.

let us use YOUR math now: nothing + words = everything!!!

Who is ridiculous now you Hovind wannabee!!!

[Youngearthguy]

@1234yersiman No, God + His Words = everything!!

[1234yersiman]

@Youngearthguy Yeah, but who was their before God? I am using the exact same logic as these morons are using

[Youngearthguy]

@1234yersiman There is no "before God". That is why God has the title The Great I AM. He is not limited by time, space, nor dimension. You've heard of the time space continuum? Time space and matter had to come into existence simultaneously. Thus: In the Beginning, God created the Heaven and the Earth....Time-Space & Matter. To be before something denotes time. Time was something God created. He is not limited by it.

[1234yersiman]

@Youngearthguy By creationists argument, everything has to have a beginning. So by your logic (and other creationists), there HAS to be something before God.

The thing is, I am trying to make an analogy to how stupid creationists sound when they say cosmologists say the universe came from nothing, since from their logic, everything had to had a beginning. Cosmologists DON'T say that. They say we don't know what happened before the big bang.

[kubush]

Not to mention that those figures were a minimum age, not a maximum age.

[1n354a]

I do find it amusing that the thing she is pushing for is the thing used to date the earth to NOT 6,000 years...

...I wonder if she lies in bed at night wondering how she got so stupid.

[krenoime2]

omg america is sooo fucked up.... i cant believe you actually have people that believe that bullshit... st art making better schools XD

[mpdykeman]

Yes, please shut up.

[IdleGod]

She's right about the uranium, but so very wrong about the earth...

[The8bitMan]

yeah, it's 6500...

[CommonReason]

I agree. She's so off by 500 years. She's an idiot.

[TheFluffyDuck]

I agree with you on both your points :)

[melwap]

WTF!! The worlds leading superpower is lead by these people, thats scary stuff.

[ArcaneKarma]

she isn't in charge of jack shit. this isn't the US senate, it's the Arizona senate.

[Vogter2100]

What a fucktard. How come someone votes for these total morons?

[startreking2007]

I don't know but even Walmart has standards.