It is about on the same level of academic dishonesty to say that the Bible directly influenced Hong Xuiquan and his "Chrisitanity" and hence resulted in the Taiping Rebellion in China 1859-1864.
He was a deluded failure who had dreams of thinking he was the younger brother of Jesus and was handed a Christian tract in 1836 that Liang Fa had wrote. After some time Hong decides the dreams he was having was similar to the story from the tract and gets his brother of Jesus idea.
Then between that and the actual uprising, he finals sees his first Bible in 1847. He was already a delusional disenfranchised Hakka minority who failed his examines 4 times and had a break down. Although he claimed to be a "Christian" I would be very dishonest in saying that he was "directly inspired" by the Bible.
And just like Hoing, Hitler got his ideas second hand and fit them into his already existing worldview.
Sounds like you have a fear of God! thats a good thing. I know this because I bet you haven't posted comments like the ones you post on my vids on other people video's of "made up things." Thats because in your heart you know HE IS real! The best news is that he can even forgive you if you repent and put your trust in Jesus. Who died to pay for your sins!
"Sounds like you have a fear of God! thats a good thing. I know this because I bet you haven't posted comments like the ones you post on my vids on other people video's of "made up things."
I do all the time thank you- its a hobby of mine - you should be so full of yourself(pride) and you shouldn't bet as I am pretty sure gambling is a sin also
"Thats because in your heart you know HE IS real! "
Sorry, this is bearing false witness.
I do not believe in your god one iota. He is just a immoral primitive work of fiction. I don fear him either, I do however fear the zealots that claim to follow him however - both on a personal level and for the backwards they inject into society. bronze aged superstitions be bllindly followed in this day and in age is not just silly - its dangerous to the species on the whole.
Not bearing false witness at all for the bible itself makes this claim! Read Romans 1:18-22 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. "20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God,..."
Dude really, your god is not real and the bible in no way provides evidence of god, why is it so hard for god-tards to understand this.
There are several different versions and it has be written and rewritten over the centuries by men - not god(as he isnt real) - edited and fabricated for their own ends.
I don't understand this delusional thinking that you somehow came to believe that non-believers really believe in god.
Its the same as me saying that you really believe Odin is real.
"There are several different versions and it has be written and rewritten over the centuries by men - not god(as he isnt real) - edited and fabricated for their own ends." Again you show your ignorance to the truth! I bet you have never studied textual criticism? No conservative mainstream scholar would agree with your statement. We have great evidence for the accuracy of the Bible.
Again you need to repent! You wouldn't be arguing with me if you TRULY thought God didn't exist.
Bible said the earth was round while science said it was flat "It is he [God] that sitteth upon the circle [sphere] of the earth Isa 40:22" Slavery was an issue that God gave rules in order to limit what could be done. Slavery in the bible is not the same as your thinking. Most lived better then common folk.
Do you believe now? of course not because you love your sin so much you want to deny the existence of God so as to do away with the guilt. But the guilt remains doesn't it?
"Do you believe now? " yes, I believe you are deluded and are unable to tell the difference between a circle and a sphere
40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
its clear that the bible is stating the sky is like a tent and the flat circular earth is laid out, like a carpet or tent floor, nothing there about a sphere shaped orbiting body
According to your rendition they believed the earth was a flat disc but it doesn't say disc? Your rendering is close to correct other then forcing "flat " into it? Thats you taking your Idea and pushing it on the text. there was no Hebrew word for "sphere" they would call a ball a circle as well as a tire. It seems to me that a "Carpet" on a "tent floor" would more then likely be square? That doesn't agree with your interpretation.
Except that the bible has many references to the firmament, the dome above the the earth that has windows that lets the water from above it flow to the water below it.
You want to believe on faith that fine man - i think its silly, but you just can't go pushing in what you want in retrospect.
The very idea that people could build a tower up to this dome and reach god was cause ejough for alarm for him after all
Also the verse its self mentions god sitting on the the circle, that because in the mythology he lives up above the firmament which is a dome that sits on the circle of the earth.
As for Christianity being dangerous to the "species" you are obviously ignorant of history. TRUE Christianity is responsible for tons of great things! Hospitals, good will, OUR COUNTRY ect. Read "What if Jesus Had Never Been Born" If you hold to an atheistic/evolutionary worldview then it should be of the survival fittest kill all the week link sort of like hitler did? Is that you position?
Wow you are far gone, jesus said demons and bad spirits caused sickness, if we kept listening to that kind of thinking we would never had hospitals. Good will? so prior to the boogie jeebus there was no good will anywhere?
and there has been goodwill long before primitive desert dwelling goat herders invented yahweh.
There is also a fair amount of archaeological that is available that shows how the bible has changed and even how yahweh changed over time - liek him having a goddess wife. Of course you see the world through jeebus blinders - and i would say that this is just your loss but you make a point and effort to recruit people into your deluded religious sysytem of denying reality.
You would trust in a "fair" amount of archaeologic evedince (if there even is any) vrs a TON of archeological evidence to the contrary? That seems a bit deluded if you ask me.
You have blinders on! I pray that God open your eyes to see the truth someday! I am addy you to my prayer list right now. It is going to be odd praying for "CauseIHadToAsk" lol :-)
"You would trust in a "fair" amount of archaeologic evedince (if there even is any) vrs a TON of archeological evidence to the contrary?" yes, because there is not a tonne of evidence supporting the bible in anyway that point to yahweh being real, and much that shows how he developed over time from a polytheistic background.
And if you really want to know more about just how vacuous and misguided "biblical archaeology" is then you could do a fast search for Dr. Hector Avalos
Nope not mixed up! Darwin theory of evolution is what inspired hitler, eugenics, and slavery! Come on youve read Darwins book "The Origin of species: The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" Just read the title and you see this worldview is the problem today not christianity!
You are mixed up or would understand what the title meant.
And slavery? Didn't we just go over how the bible promotes slavery?
"Darwin theory of evolution is what inspired hitler, eugenics, and slavery!"
this is just wrong, and a tired old line that christ-tards and fundies drag out. It is so wrong and been shown to be wrong so many times over that I have to assume that you have now resorted to open lying.
Please don't refer to me as a Liar. That is very immature to start name calling! I said the theory "inspired" Hitler. There is no solid evidence of Darwins book directly influencing him, but he is no doubt influenced by people who were. Charles Darwins cousin Francis Galton. Who developed eugenics was converted to atheism through Darwins Origins book. Just read the Wikipedia article on eugenics it draws a conection between Darwin and Hitler
And it could be just as easly said the hitler was inspired by luther or christianity in general. He was a mad man and its not fair to take what darwin said on evolution in the biological sense and blame him for what some nut did. Its dishonest. "inpsired" is not the same as blatant taking what he said out of context.
worship me or burn forever? And the alternative to this is eternal submissive worship of a genocidal, racist, sexist, petty vengeful , megalomaniac? Yeah, I have to pass on that kind of nonsense, good thing its made up to scare people.
Nothing like tapping into peoples childish primitive fears in order to indoctrinate them.
AMEN!!!!! Get it Brother!!!! Thats right!!!:-D God Bless you
EmilyVerrelli 2 years ago
To give you example:
It is about on the same level of academic dishonesty to say that the Bible directly influenced Hong Xuiquan and his "Chrisitanity" and hence resulted in the Taiping Rebellion in China 1859-1864.
He was a deluded failure who had dreams of thinking he was the younger brother of Jesus and was handed a Christian tract in 1836 that Liang Fa had wrote. After some time Hong decides the dreams he was having was similar to the story from the tract and gets his brother of Jesus idea.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
Then between that and the actual uprising, he finals sees his first Bible in 1847. He was already a delusional disenfranchised Hakka minority who failed his examines 4 times and had a break down. Although he claimed to be a "Christian" I would be very dishonest in saying that he was "directly inspired" by the Bible.
And just like Hoing, Hitler got his ideas second hand and fit them into his already existing worldview.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
Damn typo and small ass laptop key board--- that should had been 1850 - 1864
but you get the idea
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
Sounds like you have a fear of God! thats a good thing. I know this because I bet you haven't posted comments like the ones you post on my vids on other people video's of "made up things." Thats because in your heart you know HE IS real! The best news is that he can even forgive you if you repent and put your trust in Jesus. Who died to pay for your sins!
bringthenoiz 2 years ago
"Sounds like you have a fear of God! thats a good thing. I know this because I bet you haven't posted comments like the ones you post on my vids on other people video's of "made up things."
I do all the time thank you- its a hobby of mine - you should be so full of yourself(pride) and you shouldn't bet as I am pretty sure gambling is a sin also
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
"Thats because in your heart you know HE IS real! "
Sorry, this is bearing false witness.
I do not believe in your god one iota. He is just a immoral primitive work of fiction. I don fear him either, I do however fear the zealots that claim to follow him however - both on a personal level and for the backwards they inject into society. bronze aged superstitions be bllindly followed in this day and in age is not just silly - its dangerous to the species on the whole.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
Not bearing false witness at all for the bible itself makes this claim! Read Romans 1:18-22 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. "20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God,..."
bringthenoiz 2 years ago
Dude really, your god is not real and the bible in no way provides evidence of god, why is it so hard for god-tards to understand this.
There are several different versions and it has be written and rewritten over the centuries by men - not god(as he isnt real) - edited and fabricated for their own ends.
I don't understand this delusional thinking that you somehow came to believe that non-believers really believe in god.
Its the same as me saying that you really believe Odin is real.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
"There are several different versions and it has be written and rewritten over the centuries by men - not god(as he isnt real) - edited and fabricated for their own ends." Again you show your ignorance to the truth! I bet you have never studied textual criticism? No conservative mainstream scholar would agree with your statement. We have great evidence for the accuracy of the Bible.
Again you need to repent! You wouldn't be arguing with me if you TRULY thought God didn't exist.
bringthenoiz 2 years ago
"You wouldn't be arguing with me if you TRULY thought God didn't exist. "
I am not arguing with you, i am mocking your silly beliefs.
you have no argument and clearly have a narrow minded account of the world and history.
accuracy of the bible..the bible that says the world is flat and has mandates of slavery?
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
Bible said the earth was round while science said it was flat "It is he [God] that sitteth upon the circle [sphere] of the earth Isa 40:22" Slavery was an issue that God gave rules in order to limit what could be done. Slavery in the bible is not the same as your thinking. Most lived better then common folk.
Do you believe now? of course not because you love your sin so much you want to deny the existence of God so as to do away with the guilt. But the guilt remains doesn't it?
bringthenoiz 2 years ago
"Do you believe now? " yes, I believe you are deluded and are unable to tell the difference between a circle and a sphere
40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
its clear that the bible is stating the sky is like a tent and the flat circular earth is laid out, like a carpet or tent floor, nothing there about a sphere shaped orbiting body
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
According to your rendition they believed the earth was a flat disc but it doesn't say disc? Your rendering is close to correct other then forcing "flat " into it? Thats you taking your Idea and pushing it on the text. there was no Hebrew word for "sphere" they would call a ball a circle as well as a tire. It seems to me that a "Carpet" on a "tent floor" would more then likely be square? That doesn't agree with your interpretation.
bringthenoiz 2 years ago
Except that the bible has many references to the firmament, the dome above the the earth that has windows that lets the water from above it flow to the water below it.
You want to believe on faith that fine man - i think its silly, but you just can't go pushing in what you want in retrospect.
The very idea that people could build a tower up to this dome and reach god was cause ejough for alarm for him after all
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
Also the verse its self mentions god sitting on the the circle, that because in the mythology he lives up above the firmament which is a dome that sits on the circle of the earth.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
""Carpet" on a "tent floor" would more then likely be square?" -
you never seen a round domed tent before?
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
As for Christianity being dangerous to the "species" you are obviously ignorant of history. TRUE Christianity is responsible for tons of great things! Hospitals, good will, OUR COUNTRY ect. Read "What if Jesus Had Never Been Born" If you hold to an atheistic/evolutionary worldview then it should be of the survival fittest kill all the week link sort of like hitler did? Is that you position?
bringthenoiz 2 years ago
Wow you are far gone, jesus said demons and bad spirits caused sickness, if we kept listening to that kind of thinking we would never had hospitals. Good will? so prior to the boogie jeebus there was no good will anywhere?
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
There has been good will since creation because God created us in his image! SO yes before "Christianity" there was good will!
bringthenoiz 2 years ago
and there has been goodwill long before primitive desert dwelling goat herders invented yahweh.
There is also a fair amount of archaeological that is available that shows how the bible has changed and even how yahweh changed over time - liek him having a goddess wife. Of course you see the world through jeebus blinders - and i would say that this is just your loss but you make a point and effort to recruit people into your deluded religious sysytem of denying reality.
and you know Odin is real
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
You would trust in a "fair" amount of archaeologic evedince (if there even is any) vrs a TON of archeological evidence to the contrary? That seems a bit deluded if you ask me.
You have blinders on! I pray that God open your eyes to see the truth someday! I am addy you to my prayer list right now. It is going to be odd praying for "CauseIHadToAsk" lol :-)
bringthenoiz 2 years ago
"You would trust in a "fair" amount of archaeologic evedince (if there even is any) vrs a TON of archeological evidence to the contrary?" yes, because there is not a tonne of evidence supporting the bible in anyway that point to yahweh being real, and much that shows how he developed over time from a polytheistic background.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
And if you really want to know more about just how vacuous and misguided "biblical archaeology" is then you could do a fast search for Dr. Hector Avalos
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
"If you hold to an atheistic/evolutionary worldview then it should be of the survival fittest kill all the week link sort of like hitler did?"
No.
I think you have evolutionary science mixed up with the idiot herbert spencer.
"Is that you position? "
No.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
Nope not mixed up! Darwin theory of evolution is what inspired hitler, eugenics, and slavery! Come on youve read Darwins book "The Origin of species: The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" Just read the title and you see this worldview is the problem today not christianity!
bringthenoiz 2 years ago
You are mixed up or would understand what the title meant.
And slavery? Didn't we just go over how the bible promotes slavery?
"Darwin theory of evolution is what inspired hitler, eugenics, and slavery!"
this is just wrong, and a tired old line that christ-tards and fundies drag out. It is so wrong and been shown to be wrong so many times over that I have to assume that you have now resorted to open lying.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
Please don't refer to me as a Liar. That is very immature to start name calling! I said the theory "inspired" Hitler. There is no solid evidence of Darwins book directly influencing him, but he is no doubt influenced by people who were. Charles Darwins cousin Francis Galton. Who developed eugenics was converted to atheism through Darwins Origins book. Just read the Wikipedia article on eugenics it draws a conection between Darwin and Hitler
bringthenoiz 2 years ago
And it could be just as easly said the hitler was inspired by luther or christianity in general. He was a mad man and its not fair to take what darwin said on evolution in the biological sense and blame him for what some nut did. Its dishonest. "inpsired" is not the same as blatant taking what he said out of context.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
Good news?
worship me or burn forever? And the alternative to this is eternal submissive worship of a genocidal, racist, sexist, petty vengeful , megalomaniac? Yeah, I have to pass on that kind of nonsense, good thing its made up to scare people.
Nothing like tapping into peoples childish primitive fears in order to indoctrinate them.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
Nice work brother.
WretchedSinner 2 years ago
Hey I think i know that guy. Great Job man !
Colossians1vrs21n22 2 years ago