LDS, Mormons, russian mormons (filmed for RTVi )

[EscapeNewJersey]

Those are not Mormons filmed at beginning, those are people from some fundamentalist sect that have nothing to do with the LDS church!

[DjPetrov]

im sad for them every russian i know is RUSSIAN ORTHODOX this this right here urghh........

[hondacivic1992]

Mormons- let me ask you some thing:

Do you honestly think that we in Russia all own at lest one baseball bat because all we do is play baseball?

If I were you, I would ask myself that question before going on a "mission trip" to Russia, or any Orthodox Christian country for that matter.

[kataboom]

that doesnt make any sense. go back to english classes.

[hondacivic1992]

The first letter of the first word of any sentence must be capitalized. Smartass.

[kataboom]

even if you capitalize every first word, your paragraphs still dont make sense. again, go back to english class for paragraph structure, NOT simple capitalization rules that anyone can do in their sleep.

[stuartjohnstonsr]

He doesn't require English classes to understand that Joseph Smith was a big fat liar and intelligent people have ample proof of that....Why don't you explain to the fine readers why Jos. Smith inserted Old English in a book that was supposedly relayed to us via Moron...I mean, Moroni. Smith stole huge segments from the very Bible he critized.:)

[jarabefull]

I guess your pride won't let you do what's right, huh? You really like lies, don't you? We love and honor the Bible--not criticize it. Do you know what a translation is? If you were to translate something into the language of our day, wouldn't you actually use the language of our day? That was not an "intelligent" comment, yet you take it as "proof" that Joseph Smith was a liar... I really do hope that someday you can learn to be like Jesus and love your neighbors as yourself.

[kataboom]

i dont know what you are talking about. maybe you need english classes too or just to double your dose. i was making fun of his english.

[kataboom]

@stuartjohnstonsr

ha, all that ticky tacky mickey mouse stuff is easy to explain. the reason why it has old english - because its another testament of christ. if you write a book on cheeseburgers from one restaurant & then write about cheeseburgers from another restaurant - hello, a lot of things will be similar or even the same!

[kataboom]

@stuartjohnstonsr

ALSO, everyone forgets about the hard facts (which the bad mouthers of joseph smith & mormonism do not have) which is that the kid was like 18 years old when the book was made public! we arent talking about the 12th century here, were talking about 1800's - i.e. there are modern records of his birth, we know his age & the time when the BoM came out. how many teenagers could write something like the BoM that you know?

[kataboom]

@stuartjohnstonsr

so if joseph smith was a liar, etc - then that means you believe he was a genius, smarter than einstein! i just dont get you conspiracy theorists who have your vision cloudy by the joy of argument.

[stuartjohnstonsr]

Mormons claim that Jesus corrected himself in the New World (Americas). Let's see..he walked around telling everyone that they need only believe in him as their savior...then, later, to a group of people that will never be identified or found (i wonder why:) ....he said they must prove themselves worthy of being Gods like him....Hmmm...sounds like a disconnect somewhere...why can't we identify any of the placenames mentioned in the Book of Mormon? Hmmm?? Jos. Smith ran for U.S. President? Hmmm?

[jarabefulll]

Again with the lies. Lol. Why must you do the devil's work of spreading falsities? Jesus had no need of correcting himself. Everything he said to both peoples was correct. Everything he has ever said is correct. St. Matthew 5:48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."

Do you want to stop spouting lies and be friendly now? Or are you going to do the devil's work for a little bit longer? I hope we can come to mutual respect, because I do respect all religions

[jarabefull]

Stuart, didn't you say you were Catholic? I love how you guys have such strong family values. Of course, your cathedrals are amazing. I went to mass when I was in Mexico the other month and I could definitely feel the Spirit. I've had many Catholic friends and wouldn't trade their friendship for the world.

[Whyzitsotough]

The mormons have always been in this sick competition with the Catholics, its a sick fixation that the mormons have

[jarabefull]

What are you talking about?

[stuartjohnstonsr]

To Jarabefull:

Don't tell me what Jesus said. The founder of your cult chose to twist everything that Jesus said about forgiveness and GRACE...I may have been a bit incendiary because I KNOW in MY BOSOM that you are incorrect. Jesus wouldn't come to correct the Pharisees' and Sagucees' legalistic ways ONLY to reappear and state that his earlier words were BS??? No, LDS changes everytime someone proves that it is wrong. Start with EVERY laughable area mentioned in the BOM.:) They never existed.

[jarabefull]

lol. The devil is the father of all lies so don't go spreading lies about us. The devil would also tell people to not go around telling others what Jesus said. How about let's put the words of Christ into action and set aside our differences. Let us love one another as Jesus loves us and strive to be more like our Savior in word and deed.

[hondacivic1992]

so by your logic the devil is the father of the LDS church, because the LDS church is the direct result of a giant lie by the biggest con-man (Joseph Smith) to walk the earth to this date. Even Madoff got nothing on Joseph Smith lol

[jarabefull]

Don't be ridiculous. We all have sets of beliefs that you and I cannot ever prove--only the Holy Spirit can testify of the truth to us.

[jarabefull]

I really like the православная церковь. You guys have an incredible history that has some similarities to the Mormons. You were persecuted, driven and killed, but held on to that which is most sacred and would not give it up. I love your "Господи спаси и сохрани" колца :) And your temples and icons are so beautiful. The world would be a lot drearier without your church

[stuartjohnstonsr]

I'm not saying Mormons are lying...I'm just saying they conveniently ignore science, history, the cultures of others, facts about well-established church institutions other than LDS, etc.....It is called IGNORANCE. Unfortunately, it is not a sin to be ignorant or fat. Lots of fat Mormons out there:)

[stuartjohnstonsr]

Russians beware! the Mormon plan is to set-up as many Temples as possible. Their followers are enslaved in a cult they can't escape. When they do, they lose proximity and closeness to their so-called loved ones. I would drive them out of Russia now before it gets out of hand. These people believe they are righteous. Stop them now...while you can. Everything they do emanates from Salt Lake City.

[jarabefull]

Lol. Do you believe it is okay to lie in order to save other people?

[jarabefull]

How do you think Jesus would handle the situation you are in? Calling us pricks doesn't strengthen your argument. Trying to scare people away with lies is not what Jesus would do. No one is enslaved in our religion and I know plenty of people who have left and retained closeness (one of my aunts included). Incendiary language against a city of innocent people goes against Christ's teachings. Let us put aside our differences without slander and stand firm together in our resolve to be like Christ

[hondacivic1992]

I think that most people have established that we are more than capable when it comes to solving a problem such as the one you mentioned. But anyway, thanks for the warning, and we are driving them out as you speak:)

[primavera91]

meanwhile some people loose time offending the religion, people all over the world keeps getting baptized, the church keeps progressing because the truth can not be stopped.

[stuartjohnstonsr]

Of course the truth CANNOT BE STOPPED! You know: the truth in Catholicism, the one with the Baptists and every other church. Get a life:)

[brian8793]

Does anyone else think this women in the red dress is gorgeous??? I think she is GORGEOUS.......

[stuartjohnstonsr]

How could U possibly own an unbiased perspective; especially if u received your input via "seminary" lessons or at BYU? Many Russians know that ur "prophet" had a revelation AFTER the U.S. government directed that polygamy cease. No Bible prophets accommodated government edicts...LDS finally granted the priesthood to Blacks; following riots in Brazil...come on...u might want to attend to ur own family before spreading a real sickness.

[Porterthe4RTH]

Um learn your Bible clown! The murder of the Son Of God was a Government edict! Also, polygamy was only practiced by 3-5 percent of Mormons back then. It was never an official everybody has to do it and a necessity to salvation doctrine, for all Mormons. THERE WERE EXCEPTIONS FOR POLYGAMY IN BIBLE, INCLUDING ABRAHAM WHO JESUS PRAISED.

[stuartjohnstonsr]

Calling me a clown is not going to strengthen your argument. It is a fact that Mormons were basically forced to end polygamy, against their will. Why was American so successful; especially if that was somehow against Heavenly Father's plan for the United States?? Actually, in the years following America's termination of the nasty practice, the US became the most powerful nation on earth! Hah, some punishment! Get a real church!

[levaai]

Mormons or members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints don't practice Polygamy anymore. Although 'The Reformed Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints' still practices Polygamy.

[shidoniih]

Levaai, i think you mean 'The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.' Not Reformed, but that's ok. For all i know, there oculd be a reformed one, too! :)

[jaydapunk]

I'm not actually sure what the name of the Church is that still practices Polygamy but yeah. Are you a Mormon shidoniih?

[shidoniih]

Jaydapunk, yes I am. No we do not practice polygamy any longer. That was abolished a long time ago.

[sloka666]

мормоны секта! без вариантов!

[sloka666]

мормоны - секта!

[vovkaau]

Бог Культов создан с признаками, которые удовлетворяют обучению каждого культа и будут всегда напоминать индивидуальность культового лидера. В начале, Бог создал человека, и культы продолжают пробовать возвратить ту пользу, создавая собственного бога.

[vovkaau]

best is to keep away from Mormons

[pinkclimax]

Ever wonder why you think that?

Starts with an S and ends with an N

[yorlik7]

Dawn Horlacher Sorokine!!

[ukrainka23]

Ouch. Doesn't reflect well on Mormons, does it?

[snotface7]

hows that?

[brian8793]

Mormons will change Russia and China. Give it time. Truth is the same for everybody in the world, and the Mormon Church is the truth.

[hondacivic1992]

mormons will take russia over my dead bodies

[brian8793]

you have more than one body?

[hondacivic1992]

you have more than one wife?

[brian8793]

No, that law was outlawed in 1890. The reason for palygomy was to assure the advancement and preservation of Zion(Utah and surrounding areas) Palygomy was only allwed for people who were worthy enough to practice it according to the way god would want. Look, you can say all the negative stuff you want my friend, it doesn't change the fact that the LDS church is growing, and will never stop. It is the best ran, least corrupt organization in the world. It's obvious by observing their members.

[hondacivic1992]

least corrupt? HAHAHAHAHA, did you know that the LDS pastors all the way to the president of your church get paychecks. the LDS takes in billions of dollars a year, about 100 million of that goes to "charity", where does the rest go? have you read the Mormon doctrine, it is the biggest bullshit ever, and you would have to be a moron to believe it. Anyway, i can't wait for when LDS finally build that temple in Moscow, because it will give me an excuse to throw molotovs and not get arrested. :D

[brian8793]

First off do whatever you want, believe whatever you, and suck off whoever you want to suck off. However, I assure you that no member of the church get's paid for his service. This is a fact of life that is just COMMON KNOWLEDGE. The Mormon Church saves their money. They pay for missionaries that can't pay for themselves. They build churches, and temples around the world. Rich neighborhood or poor they are all very similar;) Soooooooo, your dumb......lol

[hondacivic1992]

I realy don't have a problem with your cult as long as you stay out of my county and quit calling yourselves Christian, As an Eastern Orthodox Christian, i am utterly offended by this our church was founded in 33 a.d by Christ's disciples and has not changed since, ur cult was founded in the 1830's by a con artist. so it is you who is stupid, you got tricked by a book written by a con artist and now give 10% of your money to the LDS.

Only GOD can save you.

Слава Богу!!!

Glory to God!!!

[brian8793]

Doesn't the bible say to spread the bible to everybody in the world? I think it's actually commanded by god. These people are just doing what they believe in. The defenition of a cult is "A system of religious beliefs and/or rituals." All religions are cults. Besides, I never called you stupid, just misinformed. You thought that Mormons got paid and I simply stated a well known fact, that they DON'T. Doesn't your bible also say love your brother and sister. DOESN'T SOUND LIKE LOVE TO ME!LOL

[stuartjohnstonsr]

Horosho! Good for you! I agree totally and completely. Please spread the word throughout Russia that MANY Americans have seen the light about these liars. Misery loves company and their missionaries are trying desperately to add to their numbers. Oh yeah, their white-suited elite DOES very much get paid, in a round-about way. Most are rich and successful businessmen anyway. Where are the humble, poor LDS leaders? Answer: They don't exist.:)

[stuartjohnstonsr]

No, he's not dumb. 'have studied the Mormon "church" and know in my bosom that the LDS have their own elite; very wealthy Americans who are well-placed. In fact, study the members of the Quorum of Seventy and other elites and you will learn that you MUST be affluent to hold a high office in the Mormon "Church." It is a fact and I would like for the good people of Russia to know that. Gone are the days when farmers held positions in that so-called church. Get the list, study their backgrounds....

[brian8793]

Why should Mormons be ashamed to be AFLUENT? Do you think god wants people to be broke, and a burden on society? Mormons can attribute their afluence to their lifestyle, and obedience to god................

[brian8793]

Your wrong Stuart. My brother is Mormon, and very rich. He has many friends that are Mormon, and VERY RICH.

However, they try to be humble because that is what the Church teaches. The reason that many Bishops and leaders of the Church have good money is because they don't get paid, so naturally The Church would fill top positions with people that had the resources to devote all their time to that job.

[stuartjohnstonsr]

I have observed their members close-up and for quite awhile. I strongly disagree with your assessment of Mormons. They are pricks who sin as much as anyone. By the way, you are not being honest about LDS numbers. They are losing at least 300,000 members a year and that church did not grow this past year. Get your facts straight. You were likely brainwashed and your ego won't allow you to appreciate the good works of others who may not ascribe to your values. Think Jesus, not Young or Smith

[brian8793]

Whoa dude, you got the wrong idea. I love ALL Religions from around the world.

Please man, save that hatred for The Atheist Liberals who ruin societies, better yet, don't even hate them!

I understand if you do not believe what Mormons believe in, but I assure you, they're a GREAT ORGANIZATION. The people aren't perfect, but The Church itself is darn near close......

[jarabefull]

Каждый, кто говорит глупости о том, как число членов мормонской церкви уменшается, вы можете сразу знать что они не от Бога. Дьявол отец всякой лжи и те которые распространяют ложь либо от дьявола или дьявол обманул их.

[hondacivic1992]

Ты прав про то что дьявол отец всякой лжи-по этому этих Мормонов надо силой гнать из нашей Святой и Православной Руси (потому-что Мормонский Культ это ничего кроме творчевство дьявла)!!!

[stuartjohnstonsr]

the reason for polygamy was to ensure that Jos. Smith, Brigham Young, and their buddies all got a shot at screwing consecutively younger women; some already legally married. They were horny devils who played on the ignorance of people who knew no better or perhaps, who were not even aware of their heinous practices. You can hide anything when you throw in a little ritual and verse. Hmmm.....

[brian8793]

I never said Mormons will take over Russia btw. I only said they will improve it, just like they improve this country. Christian religions(Catholic, Mormons, Jehovas Witness, Baptist, Methodists, etc..) in general will improve any society. I've studied them all throughout my life and found the Mormon Church to be the least corrupt. It has a fail proof system of checks and balances. I'm just stating a simple fact, I could care less about the history, I'm more concerned with the HERE, and the NOW.

[stuartjohnstonsr]

I find your comment about "checks and balances" [within your church] to be laughable. The LDS "Church" has absolutely no mechanism in place to address any issues or to check any grievance whatsoever. Get a real church:)

[stuartjohnstonsr]

You won't change anything....try investigating your own beliefs first! Have a good one and maybe bite me.

[brian8793]

Mormons might be lying, and they might be a farce. So what?

[stuartjohnstonsr]

You are so correct. Mormons have sullied the United States enough and yes, their actions do not reflect well....I am so glad I was not born into that "church." I feel sorry for those who wish to spread the misery.

[brian8793]

Why do you care about them, let them worship as they will. Why don't you talk shit on people that are BAD, people that HURT other people, not god fearing, law abiding citizens....geez.....

[imtherealthing]

Bless you Brian for defending the Lord's church. I noticed you don't say you are LDS...you seem to be real close to having a testimony of the Restored Gospel...brother...call the missionaries into your home and have them teach you the lessons...the Lord loves you and desires for you to enter inot his kingdom..

Bless you Bro.

[theproudmorman]

i am a morman i can proove it its my account name

[dookieguy1039]

holy crap, that guy talks fast. i can speak russian, and that guy talks oooooooooochen' bwistra. it was a good video though.

[dookieguy1039]

holy crap, that guy talks fast. i can speak russian, and that guy talks oooooooooochen' bwistra. it was a good video though.

[snake2005john]

yea right.