Just make sure you do this AFTER you are stopped in preparation to turn, and not before you stop. Turning the handlebars at the last second and hitting the front brake causes you to lose your balance.
so, a question. i'm a new rider, 110 lbs. soaking wet, so leaning a stopped bike three times my weight scares the heck out of me. would turning the wheel without leaning the bike be an alternative technique? turning a hard right from a stop was something that was giving me trouble in my last safety class and i'd really like to master it. thx! great videos by-the-way - really enjoying them.
Every bike has a tipping point--a point where leaned over at a stop, you can't fight gravity any more. I would suggest turning the wheel, and mitigating your lean; keeping it minor. That said, the lean helps with the issue of the bike's dynamics as it leaves with the wheel turned. Even a small lean will keep you from that falling to the outside feeling you'll get without the lean.
You always need (I do) to feel that you are in control of the bike at every moment. But for the second or two that it takes the bike to straighten out you are not in control: because you must NOT stop a heavy bike during this brief time. And if for some crazy reason you had to stop, well....down you go. (unless you can quickley straighten out that front wheel)
I am trying to get my head into just "letting go of the control" that I seem to always want.
This is my biggest flaw and "mind block" on my 610 pound Suzuki Burgman. When that front wheel is turned from a dead stop and then you roll on the throttle....you MUST keep moving otherwise a heavy bike is going DOWN.... and fast.
On Crash's bike he can stop the bike at mid turn and put his foot back on the ground and remain upright.
Not so on a heavy bike! Yes, all motor cops can do this in their sleep, and someday I will, too.
Went down at about 30ish with them and had no problem. Didn't even bust a seam...got rashed inside them on the knee 'cause I wasn't wearing my knee pads.
@zyou8er You're kidding right?! When I was younger, and well... dumber... ☺ I had dumped a couple bikes at at least 50 mph in a turn with nothing but my Levi pants (and jacket/helmet/gloves of course) and sustained no injuries.
No one should look forward to falling off, but if you do, the key is to tuck your arms in and roll. If you try to slide to a stop, especially on the payment, then that's when your gear starts tearing off of you. And here comes the road rash.
Saturday I watched an Instructor on a full dress Road King pulling this off without incident. He just didn't lean as much but it worked. He was pulling off right handers no sweat. Don't fool yourself into thinking "my bike won't do that".
Thanks Crash, I will try the technique. Always get a bit nervous turning the wheel on the big girl when at a stop as she has dropped once on me before crushing my big toe. I will proceed with great care.
Good tips Crash! Maybe this summer I'll get my M endorsement... Then I can actually do this. I don't think driveway practice on my daughter's CRF50 counts, does it???
Just make sure you do this AFTER you are stopped in preparation to turn, and not before you stop. Turning the handlebars at the last second and hitting the front brake causes you to lose your balance.
dkw12002 1 week ago
Lets see you do this on an 850lb Harley
jeffweissman 2 weeks ago
@jeffweissman How 'bout a 750lb Cop Bike? Try the Road Work: Turning from a stop. Just for you!
CaptCrashIdaho 2 weeks ago
Thanks for this, really helps!
aralox 2 months ago
your bike is beautiful is it 125cc and how much did you got for it ?
itscloudyagain 5 months ago
@itscloudyagain it's a DRZ400SM
CaptCrashIdaho 5 months ago
hey crash, what kind of supermoto bike is that??
GSXraja 6 months ago
@GSXraja it's a DRZ400SM...ahhh...the joy.
CaptCrashIdaho 6 months ago
i always find neutral when i don't need it.
MYkillingFETISH 7 months ago
It also works when turning left onto a one way street.
seksanbir 1 year ago
so, a question. i'm a new rider, 110 lbs. soaking wet, so leaning a stopped bike three times my weight scares the heck out of me. would turning the wheel without leaning the bike be an alternative technique? turning a hard right from a stop was something that was giving me trouble in my last safety class and i'd really like to master it. thx! great videos by-the-way - really enjoying them.
shrenster 1 year ago
Every bike has a tipping point--a point where leaned over at a stop, you can't fight gravity any more. I would suggest turning the wheel, and mitigating your lean; keeping it minor. That said, the lean helps with the issue of the bike's dynamics as it leaves with the wheel turned. Even a small lean will keep you from that falling to the outside feeling you'll get without the lean.
CaptCrashIdaho 1 year ago
thanks.. i'm a noob and my turn from a stop is too wide.. i'm gonna try this tomorrow...
yourleftnut1 1 year ago
Thanks for the advice. The bike sounds nice.
RepublicanDumbAss 1 year ago
You always need (I do) to feel that you are in control of the bike at every moment. But for the second or two that it takes the bike to straighten out you are not in control: because you must NOT stop a heavy bike during this brief time. And if for some crazy reason you had to stop, well....down you go. (unless you can quickley straighten out that front wheel)
I am trying to get my head into just "letting go of the control" that I seem to always want.
Dan
340PD 2 years ago
This is my biggest flaw and "mind block" on my 610 pound Suzuki Burgman. When that front wheel is turned from a dead stop and then you roll on the throttle....you MUST keep moving otherwise a heavy bike is going DOWN.... and fast.
On Crash's bike he can stop the bike at mid turn and put his foot back on the ground and remain upright.
Not so on a heavy bike! Yes, all motor cops can do this in their sleep, and someday I will, too.
It is a mind bender!
Dan
340PD 2 years ago 2
BTW i crashed with those icon pants that you have and they suck, well i fell of my bike at 20mph
zyou8er 2 years ago
Went down at about 30ish with them and had no problem. Didn't even bust a seam...got rashed inside them on the knee 'cause I wasn't wearing my knee pads.
CaptCrashIdaho 2 years ago
@zyou8er You're kidding right?! When I was younger, and well... dumber... ☺ I had dumped a couple bikes at at least 50 mph in a turn with nothing but my Levi pants (and jacket/helmet/gloves of course) and sustained no injuries.
No one should look forward to falling off, but if you do, the key is to tuck your arms in and roll. If you try to slide to a stop, especially on the payment, then that's when your gear starts tearing off of you. And here comes the road rash.
viggoM35 10 months ago
Perfect practice makes perfect
BuiltEnvironment 2 years ago
I've just gotta keep reminding myself that I'll be on the other side of the road when I ride. :D
Th3BritishGuy 2 years ago
I don't think I would try that on a Goldwing
magnawingrider 2 years ago
Saturday I watched an Instructor on a full dress Road King pulling this off without incident. He just didn't lean as much but it worked. He was pulling off right handers no sweat. Don't fool yourself into thinking "my bike won't do that".
CaptCrashIdaho 2 years ago
Thanks Crash, I will try the technique. Always get a bit nervous turning the wheel on the big girl when at a stop as she has dropped once on me before crushing my big toe. I will proceed with great care.
magnawingrider 2 years ago
lol -.- easy
Moto4Everr 2 years ago
Make sure you ARE in 1st gear though. Without forward movement (and its associated centrifugal force) a heavier bike might just fall down!
Saw006 2 years ago
Good advice to new riders, especially those who are on heavier bikes that don't turn from a stop as confidently as a supermoto will.
linusb212 2 years ago
Good tips Crash! Maybe this summer I'll get my M endorsement... Then I can actually do this. I don't think driveway practice on my daughter's CRF50 counts, does it???
-R-oadblock.
66Lincoupe 2 years ago
Great exercise. I've got to practice that 2UP as well...
thumbwave 2 years ago
Beautiful riding as always crash thanks for the tips. Will be taking lessons soon.
BritishRider 2 years ago
It seems like a simple thing, unless you're a new rider confronted with a right turn in busy traffic.
It's incredible you packed so much useful information in one minute.
JimNtexas 2 years ago
aww... Very helpful!!
boysinblack 2 years ago
hey man, thanks for the info
really needed that
Olexin 2 years ago
hey bud..
thanks for all of your tips & or help... i can't thank you enough.
npetzold 2 years ago
I hate when it won't go in gear, lol! It's rather embarrassing!
TheReapersSon 2 years ago 2
Happened to me the other day. Positive neutral finder indeed lol.
njd2389 2 years ago 2
Very hepful
Truo621 2 years ago