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  • I've been to manual only chiropractors and Activator Method Chiros.

    I do yoga and after any adjustment I have an immediate improvement in flexibility. I can touch my head to my knees while legs are locked. Hadn't done that before!

    TRY the technique instead of asking dubious questions about "peer review." If the technique doesn't work, simply don't return! Then you can tell people you went and it failed. The only reason not to is if you're scared that it'll actually work!

  • Dr. Sherry got back!

  • @TheJianshi The "80-90%" statistic you are stating is not referenced in that article. Unless you are referring to guidelines classified as evidence A only (~11%). In which case you didn't read the article entirely. The point of the article is essentially that creation of ACC/AHA guidelines should be more dependent on higher levels of evidence (A and B versus C). Although level C is even based off of expert opinion and case studies and not anecdotes like most chiropractors use.

  • @TheJianshi All you've done is simply repeated your original statement; that the placebo effect is only the domain of pharmaceutical substances, a wholly false statement intended to focus the discussion away from the one you have no argument against: that medical scientific research has not consistently demonstrated that adjustment of the spine has medical efficacy for ANY disease or disorder in the human body. This is when you accuse me of being a doctor, afraid of chiropractic, somehow.

  • @TheJianshi The definition of Placebo is "The tendency of any medication or treatment, even an inert or ineffective one, to exhibit results simply because the recipient believes that it will work". It has nothing to do specifically with pharmaceutical substances. By being told that manipulation of the spine will cure their problems, and believing that, patients will feel better. Also, I would like to point out that my name is a combination of Chris and Scumbag, although I suspect you know this.

  • if you can get people to part with their hard earned cah by clicking a pen on their back a few times then you deserve credit.

  • It is definitly low impact but because it is a high velocity impact, there is a force which puts movement into the area. Physics priniciple: High velocity/low mass = low velocity/high mass. How are you going to know which segments to "treat", how are you going to know which direction to apply the force? Better idea would be to discuss with the chiro a new treatment plan that works with your finances.

  • @drcarolgrant Your physics concepts are off a bit. You should be talking about acceleration, not velocity. From what I understand, the activator can apply up to 28lbs of pressure when set to level 4. A manual adjustment can apply significantly more force.

  • @spyder2600 Thanks for correcting acceleration vs velocity. And I agree with you that the manual adjustment can apply more force. That is the point. A less forceful but effective adjustment can be beneficial as well. Some people do not tolerate forceful adjustments and this technique helps.

  • Since this is low-impact, and seems to be from what I gather that it allows the body to properly position *itself* since the impact alone isn't enough to do much - is this dangerous to do at home without formal training, assuming one knows how to apply common sense and understand the premise? My wife just did two visits locally, and we simply can't afford to keep going as the recommended treatment plan suggests. Either we supplement at home, replace with at-home-treatment, or she goes without :\

  • i like dr. cherrie :)

  • How could u say that u pig!

  • Chiropractors belong in the circus.

  • No offense intended, but this is a crock. Clicking on soft tissue spots for a micro second does NOTHING. There is no scientific validity for the little "put your hand on top of your head", "tuck your chin"...I think putting a dead chicken in a paper bag and swinging it over your head while you chant to the druid gods would have more scientific validity than the activator method. Fuhr is a crock!

  • @wgagandalf007 Amazing all the people that improve with this treatment. Maybe it is not for you but in my practice what ever helps people decrease their pain and improve their life works for me.

  • @drcarolgrant People improve with this "treatment" because they believe it will be. It's called placebo, something rooted out and prevented in actual scientific medicine. If I claim that the ring on my finger can cure pain, and people feel better, does it mean my ring can cure pain? No, it means I'm a convincing enough person to make people think a ring can cure pain.

  • @chriscumbag, I am very familier with placebo effect. Allopathic medicine uses it all the time. However, I don't believe the improvement I get with infants with torticollis, for example, is placebo. Stimulating mechanoreceptors with massage, manual adjustment or activator has far reaching effects. The bottom line, what ever works for the benefit of the patient is what I try to accomplish.

  • @drcarolgrant If I posted the Activator Examination procedure, I would have a camera positioned on my forehead so that someone (like you!) could see the instantaneous muscle contraction that occurs from head to heel, when body postures place stress on a targeted joint. Conversely, after an Activator Adjustment, the same stress could be applied to the same, targeted joint and the camera would no longer show any muscle contraction and the legs would remain equal and at rest.

  • @drcarolgrant If I posted the Activator Examination procedure, I would have a camera positioned on my forehead so that someone (like you!) could see the instantaneous muscle contraction that occurs from head to heel, when body postures place stress on a targeted joint. Conversely, after an Activator Adjustment, the same stress could be applied to the same, targeted joint and the camera would no longer show any muscle contraction and the legs would remain equal and at rest. That = reief, Duh..

  • @actv8tordc true

  • I have patients who like both methods as well. True, it is great for the elderly and kids who are too fragile for a manual adjustment. Thank you for the video.

  • The Activator does not do much for me..I don't feel a thing.. I prefer the manual adjustments.. I guess I need to hear some bones cracking..

  • Different techniques work for different people. I have patients that only want activator and others that are like you that don't see any benefit. It is great though for elderly and infants. Over all keep seeing your Chiropractor.

  • I have a question can the C.A,T. be used on pple who have had surgery who can no longer have regular adjustments?

  • Yes, in my opinion that is frequently the choice of treatments. In many cases it is just as effective as manual adjustments. Give it a try.

  • Thank you so much. I found a D.C. who uses a C.A,T. today I look forward to getting adjusted sometime this week!

  • I assume you check the sacrum and pelvis too. could those not cause a leg to appear longer. and also nobodies legs are the exact same length.

  • Is there any strong evidence to support that the activator is actually causing movements/changes in the areas it is applied? A second question, could you please point out that evidence in peer-reviewed journals?

  • @MRUPE82 Go to the Activator Website, nearly "all" their research is Peer Review and also listed by the National Library of Medicine Online Abstracts. The answer is Yes, Yes, and Yes

  • @MRUPE82 The short answer is no. The very nature of chiropractic "science" (or anti-science) is flawed. The fact that the medical definition and chiropractic definition of the term subluxation must be separated should be our first clue. Chiropractic has no medical or scientific foundation and a "vertebral subluxation" has NEVER been documented by the chiros. Consumers of healthcare are often poorly educated with regard to the care that they are receiving and that is a shame.

  • Hello Dr. Carol

    Thanks for sharing this video. What is the machine standing behind the table? What is the name and its function?

    Idiolektiker

  • The machine standing behind the table is a G5 massage unit. I use it to relax muscles post adjustment. It is also beneficial with congestion. It stimulates mechanoreceptors to block pain. My patients love it.

  • Can you please record a full session. I realy wanna learn more about your work, specific about the activator.

    Thanks

    Kind Regards

    Christoph

  • hello doc. the activator is trully wonderful, but based on your video, how can you be so sure you're not missing the transverse process of the subluxated segment, if you don't even palpate it?

  • Good point, I guess I have been doing it so long I assume where it is but you know what happens when you assume. I may make another video in time and be more concientious of what I am showing. Thanks for your input.

    Dr. Carol

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