Just to throw my two cents our there... Brawl was rushed. Yep! Nintendo slap that thing together because people got pissed that the release date was pushed... Anyway Basic Brawl is limited because of the simple fact that... Well, that's its name BASIC Brawl... Its not like they limited options with friends... Overall, the wii itself was meant for party gamers... If you wanna blame someone for why Brawl sucks... Blame those who complained on why Melee is so "hard".
Some reasons were spot on (Brawl's shit connection and limited online gaming options, and slipping if turning to fast.) but the rest is just ridiculous. It takes minimal effort to avoid being juggled by a basic limitless combo, seriously just hold down on the analog stick and block, It's not that difficult.
When I saw D3, I thought you were going to show that Brawl is "great" because you can effortlessly chaingrab people. When he laid down, I was like, "Fuck yeah. Brawl FTW..."
Even the maker of Brawl said that Brawl was for people who wanted to put less time and effort into playing. Melee is for people who actually put time and effort in gameplay. In other words, Melee is competitive and takes actually takes skill and practice to win.
why not just say that it sucks, not amazing. that's too much sarcasm. the only reason i clicked on this is because i really thought you ment "Amazing".
@pgrankin1 - What do you mean "too much?" It's one sentence. It's not like I said "Top Ten Reasons Why Brawl Is Amazing. I Love This Game. It's So Well Made. It's The Best Game Ever!!!!"
@mariokirbyallstar001 - I didn't say I never said it sucks. I said I never said it sucks just because it's for casual gamers. It frightens me knowing that you can't see the difference. I do indeed think Brawl sucks, but my reasoning for that is not because it's for casual gamers. Hopefully you understand now, because I don't think I can explain it any better than that.
@BlitzFlip900 You missed my point. I'm not saying that those glitches harmed Melee or Brawl, quiet the contrary, they added a great deal of depth to both games. Problem is... these glitches were completely unintentional. Super Smash Bros has been created by people who neither support nor take into account the competitive scene. And that's the problem, all of the depth these glitches provide are not guaranteed to be in future games. (R.I.P Wave Dashing)
In my opinion both Brawl and Melee were mistakes. Neither was intended to be competitive games. Wave Dashing, DACUS, and blah blah blah were all unintended glitches which essentially, made Melee accidentally competitive. The reason people dislike Brawl was because it was a less competent mistake. The competitive scene for Smash Bros all depends on what kind of glitches can be found. That being said I fear for what Smash Bros 4 may become.
Brawl is bad(compared to Melee). Melee is a great game, and is very competitive, and can often be compared to other fighters like Streetfighter, MvC, etc. Brawl is not absolutely horrible; Brawl is Melee with less. Brawl has spacing. That's it. Melee has spacing to. Only it has a LOT more to it. You have no right to tell people how to play their game. If you like Brawl, you should be playing instead of watching this video. It's been 3 years nobody cares about how bad Brawl is anymore. Project M!
@nilsrenk haha im sorry im not trying to be rude at all but play a pro in brawl then play a pro in melee you will see the skill difference immediately
Brawl is simply put, more fun to play than Melee. That said, I would choose Melee over Brawl any day for competitive play. Brawl play is just broken with the slow speed the way it is.
BRAWL IS TTHHHEE MOST DISCOSTING GAME THAT HAS EVER BEEN CREATED BY THE HUMAN KIND We ditn expected that the games SUCKS HARD GAY COCK but it is... brawl is for gay noob fuckers i would like to all people who loves brawl to die because... it is going to help the world be a better world.
@gr8ape I would like you to die...because 1: its better for one person to die then thousands of others (hint taken from Osama biladin...Idk nor care to spell his name right) 2: it would make this world a better and more grammar correct place...
@pakapakapaka Okay, #2 is fine, I agree people who spell like complete retards should die in a fire. But for #1 how is he going to kill or cause the death of thousands of others?
@tunawrangler1 if that was a joke in relation to how many ppl like brawl...I approve...if it wasn't, (because sarcasm is undetectable online...lol) there are ppl around to who love brawl and he wished them to die...there for by me saying just him instead of a lot of others...BTW, I'm not defending brawl...its just that the title of "most disgusting game" belongs to so many others.
Competitive faggots like you guys ruin this game. Just because you can't spam wavedash or air cancel, boo fucking hoo. Keep playing melee like the tourneyfags you are.
- Explain how someone who plays a game competitively "ruins" it.
- You don't "spam" wavedashes, and you CANT spam l-cancels, even if you wanted to. Obviously both of these techniques are above and beyond your knowledge and/or capabilities.
- As my point I made to someone else, the people you call "tourneyfags" are the ones going to places, meeting people, and possibly making friends and money. What are YOU doing, exactly?
1. Only spam top tier characters because you can't be talented with anything else. No items for no fun. Also you obviously suck if you're incapable of beating Boss Battles on intense
2. Melee: always Sheik or Falco, always jumping around doing the same two combos.
3. Having fun playing Brawl with close friends instead of going to Gamestops filled with sweaty fat faggots who all use top tier characters and not enjoy the game.
You need to learn how to use the word "spam," because you can't "spam" a character. Other than that, if you can prove to me any of the things that you said then I will admit I was wrong and take down this video.
@Seph05 lol but its obv you are. you made a vid bitching about brawls mechanics. you're obv comparing brawl to melee which is stupid. they're their own games. they have their pros and their cons.
@Seph05 but they're completely different games. they're not even part of a series if you think about its. the only lol is how stupid you sound pointing out flaws in brawl when there are just as much in brawl. and I like melee more than brawl. >.<
@ss4chris89 - They're completely different? So it's just a coincidence that they both have "Super Smash Brothers" in the title, and I must be going out of my mind when, in both games, I choose a character, a stage, and play against someone and the goal is to eliminate their stocks. Or possibly I have to have the most "KO's" or coins at the end of the match, which is also an option in both games.
@Seph05 The physics are different. The game mechanics are different. characters nerfed, buffed added. Its stupid to compare the games. you're just pointing out the obv lol.
@ss4chris89 - Or what about the fact that many stages and characters return from the previous games. Hell, what about the characters themselves? The "veteran" characters have, for the most part, the same moves that they had in the previous games.
Boy, for a "completely different game," the developers weren't very creative.
@Seph05 perhaps you dont and perhaps you took the words too seriously. another lol on your part. perhaps maybe also why you hate on brawl cuz you suck it also? lol.
@ss4chris89 - You've resorted to saying ridiculous and ignorant things just like the majority of the others. Congratulations for showing me your true colors. Enjoy your block.
@ss4chris89 You're pretty much flawed for stating the obvious. Sure Brawl has both pros and cons, but it doesn't mean it's COMPLETELY different. If it was, there wouldn't be the same characters. So your statement is completely off.
@Kirbybobo 1. Just because a lot of people like using characters with more potential does not make then talentless. Items completely equalizes the playing field, so there's no need to try to get any better with your character (i could 4-stock your ass as Bowser if enough items fall in my favor) 2. You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.3. Who's to say that they aren't close friends? I'm sure they're having plenty of fun and enjoying the game immensely.
Wavedashing isn't a glitch. Its a technique that utilizes the physics of the game. Unintended? Maybe. But certainly not an error in coding a.k.a. a glitch.
@Vergilthenew That's not what I said. I said the the most used tourneyfag-technique is invented while using items. And items are banned in tourneyfag tourneys. And that is contradictory.
It is exactly the opposite of what you said. But I can tell ya, there is coming a new Nintendo system and there will probably be a new SSB game in one year. There is going to be no wavedashing.
@OrkTv - No, that is not what "contradictory" is. Learn when it is appropriate to deem something as such. Also, it makes no difference to you whether or not wavedashing is in the next Smash Brothers game. You like the series when playing it casually, correct? So stop acting like certain techniques actually have an impact on your experience. Be thankful as well. Nintendo is catering towards players like you who are incapable of forming strategies beyond that of button mashing.
@Seph05 I don't think the creators of SSBM intended to have something like wavedashing in SSBM. I don't care if it is a glitch or a bug, it's just something the creators didn't intend to use. And nowadays, there are no professional Smashers that don't wavedash. It has a way too big impact on the metagame.
@Seph05 Wavedashing is the only thing that happens. This game is not about sweet combo's anymore, but it's just wavedash wavedash wavedash. And it is also pretty much the only thing why some Smashers keep playing SSBM.
@Seph05 I am just saying that SSBM (and the other SSB games) are made to use the A and B moves. Smashing, combos, such a things, those are the things that were supposed to happen in an SSBM battle. But you are going like wavedash wavedash combo (the best part), wavedash wavedash kill.
They fixed this in SSBB. You guys are giving the REAL SSBM a bad name.
@OrkTv - Wavedashing is mainly used as a tool for spacing and movement. It contributes to the depth of Melee. It does not hinder the gameplay, it advances it. You have no argument that says otherwise. Aside from that, YOU'RE the one that is giving the "real" SSBM a bad name. You apparently like combos, since you said "This game is not about sweet combo's anymore" as well as "...combo (the best part)," yet BRAWL DOES NOT HAVE COMBOS.
@Seph05 You really don't know what I mean, do you?
The makers of SSBM never said like: ''Hey, lets use the air dodge technique very low at the ground fastly after each other so you can walk (or move, if you prefer that) in a way that makes the walk we just animated completely useless!''
And I have am talking about a different ''combo''. A combo in my eyes is when you pull of lots of moves behind each other (you can do that in Brawl). Not literally giving the opponent no change at all to escape.
@OrkTv - I get exactly what you mean, and I've been ignoring it up till now. It doesn't matter if the game developers "wanted" wavedashing to be a part of the game or not. Saying such statements does not counter the argument that Melee was benefited from wavedashing. Simple as that.
Making up your own definition for what combos are is like me making up my own definition for what birds are. It's not true and just doesn't make sense.
In the words of Dr. Doom, you've wasted enough of my time.
Brawl, Melee and 64 are COMPLETELY different games. They all are good. I hate to break it to you Melee fanatics but, SSB4 will be nothing like Melee. Hate to burst your bubble. SSB is a series that evolves, each game is going to have big leaps of changes. Don't expect another Brawl to happen either. SSB4 will be a new realm of smash.
I've played all three SSB's. They're pretty much the same games. Sure, some have added features like air dodging, or infinite air dodging, teching, new stages, new items, but in the end, its still the same game. The mind games are there, the advanced techniques are there, the competitive gameplay is there. Really, calling them completely different is absurd. A little different? Okay. Goldeneye and SSB are completely different.
@ZephDT In comparison to one another they are completely different. The mechanics are different, compare the speed/tactics/moveset/wheight/fallspd ect for each character. Because each game has a different roster, different levels, and new features, the way you play is totally changed. Things you can do with Kirby in SSB vs things you can do with him in Brawl are totally different. If you go into a Brawl tournament as a Kirby player and only have played the original or melee, youll get schooled.
Of course, when you look at the details things are different. Characters have either been buffed, nerfed or have disappeared altogether. But the core is still there. The goal in the game. The methods to achieve that goal; knockout your opponents. Now don't get me wrong here, I agree that the games have significant differences, but calling them completely different is kinda missing the mark.
@ZephDT I don't think completely different isn't far fetched if we compare them to one another alone. Brawl Vs. Melee Vs. 64. They are worlds different. Yes the objective is still the same but Soul Caliber, Street Fighter and Tekken all have the same "Objective" (Take down your opponents life bar) The main objective isn't enough to convince me that they aren't extremely different. Again, this isn't SF vs SSBM vs SSBB vs KH. Strictly comparison between the three games.
You keep saying that they're completely different games. Care to clarify how exactly they're different? I've played all but SSB64 competitively and do not see much of a difference. Of course, the metagame adapted with new characters, stages and physics, but I do not find that enough to merit calling the three games completely different.
@ZephDT Like I said before in a lot of games the character is pretty stable throughout the series. Street Fighter for example, used the same sprites in tons of spin-off games. The Ryu played virtually the same in all of them. Now this is no way true for smash. Ex: If you played as SFIII ryu, then played as Ryu in MvC2. You would be playing virtually the exact same character. If you play as Kirby in 64 you can not switch to brawl and be as good as you were in 64 straight away.
@OrkTv perhaps because it has more options..... also everyone character could be fast in melee thus advanced techniques helped balance out the cast. Brawl sucks dude, everyone knows it stop being a noob.
most of all melee is actually entertaining to watch/play. It is, after all, a game.....
@SmashVelox So if there comes an SSB4 with Brawl graphics, more options and balanced characters, but without Wavedashing and L-cancelling, you would play it.
um mele better then brawl? youjust lik combos wavedashing and l canceling so much that you don't see awsome new features and gamemodes and the adventure mode you have the such faggots about it 64>>>>>>>>>>brawl>>>>>>>>>melee
@MrYokokurama1 Um, the adventure mode was a sad attempt at putting in a story line to a fighting game. It was rather pathetic, in my opinion. I've played both and Brawl is fun but Melee is a lot harder to be good at and has a lot more depth. Plus, Ganon is Brawl is fucking retarded, but Ganon in Melee was fucking BEAST!
lol adventure mode. Most people who played melee competitively like it more than brawl because melee has a more competitive scene. Stuff like adventure mode are meaningless to them. Of course, Brawl might be more casual, but melee just has more room for skill, improvement of skill, etc.
@ZephDT eh its true but brawl has ore likes outta all the smash bros series i like brawl for crtain reasons i play melee hardly ever but ike needs to leave brawl. but i like 64 outta all the smash bros series. even the creator of the series said he wasn't a competitive person so he made brawl more of a fun game for people then more of a competitive thing
@OrkTv - Explain to me the glitches used. Oh, and telling someone they are a such and such if they reply shows your lack of confidence for being able to hold your own in an argument. "Tourneyfag" isn't even an insult though, tbh. What does that mean? That I travel? Meet people? Possibly make money?
Yet, you believe that abusing Snake's Mortar Glide glitch and watching many many meta knights abuse their broken and over-sped up attacks is COMPLETELY legit? Sir, reading your comment made me facepalm a countless amount of times.
In Brawl, there are so many infinite grabs and glitches. I would gladly write out a list for you.
@OrkTv No, this is someone exhibiting the things about Brawl that makes serious gamers (yes, they exist, and a lot of them have quite interesting lives and are really cool people) cringe, squirm and rage. That's what this is. Brawl isn't necessarily better or worse over all, but it's not the same kind of game. It's much more of a party game, not a competitive game, like Melee.
@wabitgirl A party game? Serious? Only because it's a little slower than Melee you call it a party game? If you mean with party game "you play it with friends and thus have way more fun", I agree with you. If you mean, you don't have to do anything, it's way too easy, you're wrong.
@OrkTv Melee is more fun to play with friends as well. What I mean is that it's easier to be pretty good at Brawl than it is to be pretty good at Melee. You don't have to practice to compete in Brawl when you're playing with your friends and such. There's nothing wrong with it. As for being more fun, that's really a matter of opinion. You still have to do stuff in Brawl, no denying it, just not quite as much as in Melee. they're both good games, I just prefer one to the other.
una mierda el brawl, ni lo juego y usando a meta le gano a los weones q pasan jugando con personajes como rob, lucas, peach, y tambien le puedo ganar a buenos snake users XD meta----> tier list
No idea what anything in this was supposed to prove. Was it supposed to be sarcastic or serious? Most of these things are really minor problems and don't really make the game any worse. But yeah, I kinda agree on number 4, I've only had like one good match on Wi-Fi.
10. Yup. can get really fustrating(sp?) 9. Okay... 8. Ike's big strengthness. 7. Spammin 6. Sometimes, the loading screen immediately finishes. 5. Ganondorf has a hard time hitting Squirtle while it's ducking. 4. give people your friend code if you want to avoid 2 min battles. 3. ...Graphics? Tripping really shouldn't have been programmed. 2. CF's nerfed knee which needs to be sweetspotted for the power. 1. ...What?
While I do agree there are some things in Brawl that straight up annoy me like tripping, it's a fun game overall. It may not be as fast-paced or competitive as Melee, but it doesn't have to be. A smash game is a smash game, and everyone will have their opinions about a smash game. It's fun in its own way. I remember when I used to hate brawl with a passion, but then I started playing again and realized how fun it really gets, so give it another chance!
@Kablammer4 I seriously cannot fathom why people could ever hate Brawl. Yes, I understand that it's not Melee or 64, but does it have to be? I honestly prefer Brawl over Melee (mostly because of Spear Pillar and Smart Bombs).
Also, I've still yet to see how people say that Brawl is slower than Melee, I just don't understand what that means.
Guys listen if you're a fan of the games play them, I like all 3 but melee is my fav, but don't argue like idiots about which game is best They all have there flaws/advantages.
I've played Melee and i've played Brawl. Well, i've played the whole series. Brawl i like more than Melee bacause isn't slow as the N64 version but neither fast as Melee. The speed is ok. You can more easily scape from combos allowing fight and don't be a punching bag for pros (lol).
I dont really understand that of "competitive", when a game must be funny, accessible for the public and try be balanced for all the players.
@Soph05 if you like competitive games so much why diss brawl...some of the reasons why you dissed te game are just ridiculus...and why does king dededes pose thing had to do with it...and the game is meant to be simple and fun....I do like competition but not to the point where that's all the game becomes..trust me my friends really get ticked off when they loose...look we both have our own opinoins so I'll leave it at that...NO ONES RIGHT
@Seph05 look i'm sry I got carried away and I respect your opinoin but some of the reasons why you disliked the game were pretty stupid let's leave this behind us :)
@Seph05 look you have your opinoin and I have mine..brawl had more of everything and if you can't handle some minor and sometimes helpful additions ad you can't play because of a "lack of speed" then I don't know what to say....and the c-stick can be cheap because players can just keep using that and be cheap by doin notin else. The smash bros is about having being
@Ike7175 - Lack of hitstun, multiple airdodges, auto-grabbing ledges, etc. are MAJOR changes/additions. It completely changed how you play the game.
I don't know how someone can't play a slower game. That doesn't make sense to me.
I also don't know why you keep quoting "lack of speed" as if I mentioned that somewhere.
I, like many others, get the most enjoyment out of a game if it's worthy of being competitive. There are some exceptions, like single player games, 2-4 player co-op games, etc.
Honeslty I have no idea why people think brawl has lost it's "competitive edge" I mean seriosly melée is fun and all but players can really be cheap with the c-stick and In brawl to. Brawl has more of everything. so stop saying it sucks because of a "speed reduction" and because u just dont want 2 admit that u suck at it..and it's not nintendos fault that u have crappy Internet connection.
@Ike7175 - Every technical aspect in Melee was removed. Hitstun was removed. Auto grabbing ledges was added. Tripping was added. You have no idea why people think Brawl has lost it's competitive edge? Really?
Also, how is your comment about the c-stick a point against Melee if people can be "cheap" with it in Brawl too? That had no value whatsoever.
@Seph05 Because Jigglypuff requires real competitive edge in melee. U tilt rest profit. I play both competitively and like both. They have there advantages and disadvantages you're just a militant melee.fan.
@Seph05 I was a Falco main. But when Jiggz started to come up all over the place bair and uair+rest raped. I am now using Jigglypuff in most match ups. Watch some Hbox matches and you will see how good Bair spamming is. Melee is no more balanced.
@BOOBOO3976 - I am well aware of what Jigglypuff is capable of, however, I don't see why you started this conversation. My comments were about competitiveness, not comparing the difference in character balance between Brawl and Melee.
I came to this video ready to fuck shit up. Then I realized you were being sarcastic. Melee :)
XenophonWombat 3 weeks ago
lawl, meele elitists.
XxBroBuzzxX 3 weeks ago
Just to throw my two cents our there... Brawl was rushed. Yep! Nintendo slap that thing together because people got pissed that the release date was pushed... Anyway Basic Brawl is limited because of the simple fact that... Well, that's its name BASIC Brawl... Its not like they limited options with friends... Overall, the wii itself was meant for party gamers... If you wanna blame someone for why Brawl sucks... Blame those who complained on why Melee is so "hard".
MahNameIsEd 1 month ago
Some reasons were spot on (Brawl's shit connection and limited online gaming options, and slipping if turning to fast.) but the rest is just ridiculous. It takes minimal effort to avoid being juggled by a basic limitless combo, seriously just hold down on the analog stick and block, It's not that difficult.
harristhesecondcomin 1 month ago
@harristhesecondcomin - Your ideas for dealing with such situations are revolutionary. You are a god among men.
Seph05 1 month ago
2:47 minutes of QQ
sflytal 2 months ago
@sflytal - ...and?
Seph05 2 months ago
When I saw D3, I thought you were going to show that Brawl is "great" because you can effortlessly chaingrab people. When he laid down, I was like, "Fuck yeah. Brawl FTW..."
Mahareshi 3 months ago
Is this video being sarcastic?
TheUglyPaperBagMan 4 months ago
As much as I love this game, I found this to be really funny.
DawnOfStefan 4 months ago
I love smash bros too!X)
funofsonic 5 months ago
do u REALLY like smash bros?
Uriyeah55 5 months ago
all the ones where you would go up to someone and they wouldnt attack back, it was just the player two not a CPU, CPUs actully attack you
lbns2 5 months ago
@lbns2 - Well gosh darn it. I was hoping no one would catch that. Well played, sir.
Seph05 5 months ago
@lbns2 faaaaaiiiillluurreee
TheDakpo 3 months ago
Lol @1:13-1:29 XD
Gabbycat171 5 months ago
squirtle: Trollface
pingyxd 5 months ago
This video made me laugh way too hard.
Zeffa1234 5 months ago
troll face.
crazysquriel 5 months ago
I thought for sure that metaknight would be on that list.
Xolus317 5 months ago
Brawl sucks. End of discussion.
Even the maker of Brawl said that Brawl was for people who wanted to put less time and effort into playing. Melee is for people who actually put time and effort in gameplay. In other words, Melee is competitive and takes actually takes skill and practice to win.
MightyRedeemer 5 months ago
Kind Dedede, is a pinguin. Nuff said.
oltpseed 6 months ago
oh, okay, then. it is amazing! :D
pgrankin1 6 months ago
why not just say that it sucks, not amazing. that's too much sarcasm. the only reason i clicked on this is because i really thought you ment "Amazing".
pgrankin1 6 months ago
@pgrankin1 - What do you mean "too much?" It's one sentence. It's not like I said "Top Ten Reasons Why Brawl Is Amazing. I Love This Game. It's So Well Made. It's The Best Game Ever!!!!"
Seph05 6 months ago
@pgrankin1 Samething here
GoldenYoshiKing23 6 months ago
@seph05 Dude please shut up THE GAME IS GREAT quiting hating hater
GoldenYoshiKing23 6 months ago
@GoldenYoshiKing23 - Dude no way THE GAME IS BALLS stoping loving lover
Seph05 6 months ago
@Seph05 just because a game is made for casual gamers doesnt mean it sucks. Don't like it? then try brawl +
mariokirbyallstar001 6 months ago
@mariokirbyallstar001 - ...ok? Never said it sucks just because it's for casual gamers. And I have tried Brawl+. That sucks too.
Seph05 6 months ago
@Seph05 never said it sucks? then what does THE GAME IS BALLS mean?
mariokirbyallstar001 6 months ago
@mariokirbyallstar001 - I didn't say I never said it sucks. I said I never said it sucks just because it's for casual gamers. It frightens me knowing that you can't see the difference. I do indeed think Brawl sucks, but my reasoning for that is not because it's for casual gamers. Hopefully you understand now, because I don't think I can explain it any better than that.
Seph05 6 months ago
@Seph05 ok, now i understand, but what is the reason other than that?
mariokirbyallstar001 6 months ago
#10, I agree I guess
#9 Yes, WiFi sucks a**
#8 I F****** HATE that move, inescapable
#7 I hate the all you have to do is hold down a to do the standard combo
#6 loading takes too long for a crap game
#5 A lot of characters hitbubbles suck a**
#4 I don't entirely agree with this, only if their was a TIME stock battle
#3 one of the top reasons this game sucks, but can save you from chaingrabs
#2 this is the number one reason I hate brawl
#1 yes that is pretty awesome
WorldsGreatestVidiot 6 months ago
Would you like sarcasm with your video?
Jailbird408 6 months ago
0:51 The best of all
bruatleticano 6 months ago
@Chrisevil - Provide specific examples so that I may shut you down.
Seph05 6 months ago
it seems that the game was good enough for you to get most trophies and get all characters...
SonicIsOver900 6 months ago
@SonicIsOver900 - Flawed logic. It takes time to truly form an opinion, and during that time I happened to unlock stuff.
Seph05 6 months ago 6
melee is the true smashbros....brawl is overkill....
Officer94 6 months ago
in comparison to melee i mean
BeeferPig 6 months ago
its a good game. just not the most competitive game
BeeferPig 6 months ago
@BlitzFlip900 You missed my point. I'm not saying that those glitches harmed Melee or Brawl, quiet the contrary, they added a great deal of depth to both games. Problem is... these glitches were completely unintentional. Super Smash Bros has been created by people who neither support nor take into account the competitive scene. And that's the problem, all of the depth these glitches provide are not guaranteed to be in future games. (R.I.P Wave Dashing)
LunarPaint 6 months ago
In my opinion both Brawl and Melee were mistakes. Neither was intended to be competitive games. Wave Dashing, DACUS, and blah blah blah were all unintended glitches which essentially, made Melee accidentally competitive. The reason people dislike Brawl was because it was a less competent mistake. The competitive scene for Smash Bros all depends on what kind of glitches can be found. That being said I fear for what Smash Bros 4 may become.
LunarPaint 7 months ago
Brawl is bad(compared to Melee). Melee is a great game, and is very competitive, and can often be compared to other fighters like Streetfighter, MvC, etc. Brawl is not absolutely horrible; Brawl is Melee with less. Brawl has spacing. That's it. Melee has spacing to. Only it has a LOT more to it. You have no right to tell people how to play their game. If you like Brawl, you should be playing instead of watching this video. It's been 3 years nobody cares about how bad Brawl is anymore. Project M!
DrLoganski 7 months ago
so brawl sucks because you need skill (#2)
nilsrenk 7 months ago
@nilsrenk - I agree. The most skillful thing to do in the entire game of Brawl is to land sweetspot knees.
Seph05 7 months ago
@nilsrenk haha im sorry im not trying to be rude at all but play a pro in brawl then play a pro in melee you will see the skill difference immediately
s570239 6 months ago
@nilsrenk brawl is way easier to play i prefer it.
aquafishsoup 6 months ago
1:15
Squirtle fainted
1:27
uses Revive
Pokemon ftw
SapphireCarbuncle009 7 months ago
this is the funniest thing ive ever seen
TonyJ93 7 months ago
inb4 flame war
SkylacedSolace 8 months ago
Brawl is simply put, more fun to play than Melee. That said, I would choose Melee over Brawl any day for competitive play. Brawl play is just broken with the slow speed the way it is.
cjn1414118 9 months ago
I hope to God (despite being Atheist) that this was a parody 'cause I frikkin' love Melee and dislike Brawl.
JerrafurOscar 9 months ago
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JerrafurOscar 9 months ago
I agree that tripping sucks balls.
But everything else is just bogus crap...
MrNauran 9 months ago
BRAWL IS TTHHHEE MOST DISCOSTING GAME THAT HAS EVER BEEN CREATED BY THE HUMAN KIND We ditn expected that the games SUCKS HARD GAY COCK but it is... brawl is for gay noob fuckers i would like to all people who loves brawl to die because... it is going to help the world be a better world.
gr8ape 9 months ago
@gr8ape I would like you to die...because 1: its better for one person to die then thousands of others (hint taken from Osama biladin...Idk nor care to spell his name right) 2: it would make this world a better and more grammar correct place...
pakapakapaka 9 months ago
@pakapakapaka Okay, #2 is fine, I agree people who spell like complete retards should die in a fire. But for #1 how is he going to kill or cause the death of thousands of others?
tunawrangler1 8 months ago
@tunawrangler1 if that was a joke in relation to how many ppl like brawl...I approve...if it wasn't, (because sarcasm is undetectable online...lol) there are ppl around to who love brawl and he wished them to die...there for by me saying just him instead of a lot of others...BTW, I'm not defending brawl...its just that the title of "most disgusting game" belongs to so many others.
pakapakapaka 8 months ago
Competitive faggots like you guys ruin this game. Just because you can't spam wavedash or air cancel, boo fucking hoo. Keep playing melee like the tourneyfags you are.
Kirbybobo 9 months ago
@Kirbybobo
- Explain how someone who plays a game competitively "ruins" it.
- You don't "spam" wavedashes, and you CANT spam l-cancels, even if you wanted to. Obviously both of these techniques are above and beyond your knowledge and/or capabilities.
- As my point I made to someone else, the people you call "tourneyfags" are the ones going to places, meeting people, and possibly making friends and money. What are YOU doing, exactly?
Seph05 9 months ago
@Seph05
1. Only spam top tier characters because you can't be talented with anything else. No items for no fun. Also you obviously suck if you're incapable of beating Boss Battles on intense
2. Melee: always Sheik or Falco, always jumping around doing the same two combos.
3. Having fun playing Brawl with close friends instead of going to Gamestops filled with sweaty fat faggots who all use top tier characters and not enjoy the game.
Competing to win is for fucking shitheads.
Kirbybobo 9 months ago
@Kirbybobo
You need to learn how to use the word "spam," because you can't "spam" a character. Other than that, if you can prove to me any of the things that you said then I will admit I was wrong and take down this video.
Seph05 9 months ago
@Seph05 lol it seems that someone is just a melee fan girl.
ss4chris89 9 months ago
@ss4chris89 - Oh? And who would that be?
Seph05 9 months ago
@Seph05 you... lol.
ss4chris89 9 months ago
@ss4chris89 - Oh, pardon my confusion. I just thought that, in order to be a "fan" of the game, you actually had to like it.
Seph05 9 months ago
@Seph05 lol but its obv you are. you made a vid bitching about brawls mechanics. you're obv comparing brawl to melee which is stupid. they're their own games. they have their pros and their cons.
ss4chris89 9 months ago
@ss4chris89 - It's because I was shocked at how bad they made Brawl.
And the only thing worth "lol"ing at here is you saying that it's stupid to compare games from the same series.
Seph05 9 months ago
@Seph05 but they're completely different games. they're not even part of a series if you think about its. the only lol is how stupid you sound pointing out flaws in brawl when there are just as much in brawl. and I like melee more than brawl. >.<
ss4chris89 9 months ago
@ss4chris89 - They're completely different? So it's just a coincidence that they both have "Super Smash Brothers" in the title, and I must be going out of my mind when, in both games, I choose a character, a stage, and play against someone and the goal is to eliminate their stocks. Or possibly I have to have the most "KO's" or coins at the end of the match, which is also an option in both games.
Seph05 9 months ago
@Seph05 The physics are different. The game mechanics are different. characters nerfed, buffed added. Its stupid to compare the games. you're just pointing out the obv lol.
ss4chris89 9 months ago
@ss4chris89 - Or what about the fact that many stages and characters return from the previous games. Hell, what about the characters themselves? The "veteran" characters have, for the most part, the same moves that they had in the previous games.
Boy, for a "completely different game," the developers weren't very creative.
Seph05 9 months ago
@Seph05 again as i mentioned pointing out the obvious. lol. its a completely different game with game mechanics and physics.
ss4chris89 9 months ago
@ss4chris89 - Do you not understand what "completely" means?
Seph05 9 months ago
@Seph05 perhaps you dont and perhaps you took the words too seriously. another lol on your part. perhaps maybe also why you hate on brawl cuz you suck it also? lol.
ss4chris89 9 months ago
@Seph05 i see your vids and i see mvc3. another bad game bad flaws lol. what a hypocrite. xD
ss4chris89 9 months ago
@ss4chris89 - I'll take that as a "no" to my previous question. Now here's a new question:
Do you know what "opinion" means?
Seph05 9 months ago
@Seph05 I believe I answered that. if you couldnt figure out the answer then man you're dumb lol. your opinion is flawed. you are flawed lol.
ss4chris89 9 months ago
@ss4chris89 - You've resorted to saying ridiculous and ignorant things just like the majority of the others. Congratulations for showing me your true colors. Enjoy your block.
Seph05 9 months ago
@ss4chris89 You're pretty much flawed for stating the obvious. Sure Brawl has both pros and cons, but it doesn't mean it's COMPLETELY different. If it was, there wouldn't be the same characters. So your statement is completely off.
FTWMelee 9 months ago
@FTWMelee So why are you using "completely" also?
FanaticBrawl 9 months ago
@Kirbybobo 1. Just because a lot of people like using characters with more potential does not make then talentless. Items completely equalizes the playing field, so there's no need to try to get any better with your character (i could 4-stock your ass as Bowser if enough items fall in my favor) 2. You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.3. Who's to say that they aren't close friends? I'm sure they're having plenty of fun and enjoying the game immensely.
Bitter much?
SoulTrii 9 months ago
This game went down on my expectations....
SSB 64>>>>>>>Melee>>>>>>>Brawl.
MIguemex95 10 months ago
Lol I was surfing on the internet, and I found out that wavedashing was found out when using items.
This is the point: Would it be more or less faggy if you were (or are) using items?
Answer 1. Yes. You would be fags from the beginning.
Answer 2. No. Wavedashing wasn't found out and that is the main reason you guys are still sticking with your glitchy game.
By the way, the only reasons I would play Melee again because my Wii is destroyed or to play on Flat Zone 1 (better than 2) or Fourside.
OrkTv 10 months ago
@OrkTv - Your post doesn't make any sense. Also, wavedashing isn't a glitch. Stop being stupid.
Seph05 10 months ago 20
@OrkTv
Wavedashing isn't a glitch. Its a technique that utilizes the physics of the game. Unintended? Maybe. But certainly not an error in coding a.k.a. a glitch.
ZephDT 10 months ago
@OrkTv stop feeding the troll. he's just mad that he's just as shitty in brawl than he was in melee.
foxdie895 10 months ago
@OrkTv are you saying that if you buy brawl and play it for the first time and didn't turn off items you are a fag.
Vergilthenew 7 months ago
@Vergilthenew That's not what I said. I said the the most used tourneyfag-technique is invented while using items. And items are banned in tourneyfag tourneys. And that is contradictory.
It is exactly the opposite of what you said. But I can tell ya, there is coming a new Nintendo system and there will probably be a new SSB game in one year. There is going to be no wavedashing.
OrkTv 7 months ago
@OrkTv - No, that is not what "contradictory" is. Learn when it is appropriate to deem something as such. Also, it makes no difference to you whether or not wavedashing is in the next Smash Brothers game. You like the series when playing it casually, correct? So stop acting like certain techniques actually have an impact on your experience. Be thankful as well. Nintendo is catering towards players like you who are incapable of forming strategies beyond that of button mashing.
Seph05 7 months ago
@Seph05 I don't think the creators of SSBM intended to have something like wavedashing in SSBM. I don't care if it is a glitch or a bug, it's just something the creators didn't intend to use. And nowadays, there are no professional Smashers that don't wavedash. It has a way too big impact on the metagame.
OrkTv 7 months ago
@OrkTv - Then explain how Wavedashing has a negative impact on competitive Melee.
Seph05 7 months ago
@Seph05 Wavedashing is the only thing that happens. This game is not about sweet combo's anymore, but it's just wavedash wavedash wavedash. And it is also pretty much the only thing why some Smashers keep playing SSBM.
OrkTv 7 months ago
@OrkTv - There simply is not any validity to what you just said. I know it, you know it, every Chuck E Cheese within a 50 mile radius knows it.
Seph05 7 months ago
@Seph05 No counterarguments?
OrkTv 7 months ago
@Seph05 I am just saying that SSBM (and the other SSB games) are made to use the A and B moves. Smashing, combos, such a things, those are the things that were supposed to happen in an SSBM battle. But you are going like wavedash wavedash combo (the best part), wavedash wavedash kill.
They fixed this in SSBB. You guys are giving the REAL SSBM a bad name.
OrkTv 7 months ago
@OrkTv - Wavedashing is mainly used as a tool for spacing and movement. It contributes to the depth of Melee. It does not hinder the gameplay, it advances it. You have no argument that says otherwise. Aside from that, YOU'RE the one that is giving the "real" SSBM a bad name. You apparently like combos, since you said "This game is not about sweet combo's anymore" as well as "...combo (the best part)," yet BRAWL DOES NOT HAVE COMBOS.
WAKE UP.
Seph05 7 months ago
@Seph05 You really don't know what I mean, do you?
The makers of SSBM never said like: ''Hey, lets use the air dodge technique very low at the ground fastly after each other so you can walk (or move, if you prefer that) in a way that makes the walk we just animated completely useless!''
And I have am talking about a different ''combo''. A combo in my eyes is when you pull of lots of moves behind each other (you can do that in Brawl). Not literally giving the opponent no change at all to escape.
OrkTv 7 months ago
@OrkTv - I get exactly what you mean, and I've been ignoring it up till now. It doesn't matter if the game developers "wanted" wavedashing to be a part of the game or not. Saying such statements does not counter the argument that Melee was benefited from wavedashing. Simple as that.
Making up your own definition for what combos are is like me making up my own definition for what birds are. It's not true and just doesn't make sense.
In the words of Dr. Doom, you've wasted enough of my time.
Seph05 7 months ago
Brawl, Melee and 64 are COMPLETELY different games. They all are good. I hate to break it to you Melee fanatics but, SSB4 will be nothing like Melee. Hate to burst your bubble. SSB is a series that evolves, each game is going to have big leaps of changes. Don't expect another Brawl to happen either. SSB4 will be a new realm of smash.
shortiecanbrawl 10 months ago
@shortiecanbrawl
Completely different games. I lol'd.
ZephDT 10 months ago
@ZephDT They are? If you don't think that then you haven't played them. This isn't something that is up for dispute.
shortiecanbrawl 10 months ago
@shortiecanbrawl
I've played all three SSB's. They're pretty much the same games. Sure, some have added features like air dodging, or infinite air dodging, teching, new stages, new items, but in the end, its still the same game. The mind games are there, the advanced techniques are there, the competitive gameplay is there. Really, calling them completely different is absurd. A little different? Okay. Goldeneye and SSB are completely different.
Either use different wording, or explain yourself
ZephDT 10 months ago
@ZephDT In comparison to one another they are completely different. The mechanics are different, compare the speed/tactics/moveset/wheight/fallspd ect for each character. Because each game has a different roster, different levels, and new features, the way you play is totally changed. Things you can do with Kirby in SSB vs things you can do with him in Brawl are totally different. If you go into a Brawl tournament as a Kirby player and only have played the original or melee, youll get schooled.
shortiecanbrawl 10 months ago
@shortiecanbrawl
Of course, when you look at the details things are different. Characters have either been buffed, nerfed or have disappeared altogether. But the core is still there. The goal in the game. The methods to achieve that goal; knockout your opponents. Now don't get me wrong here, I agree that the games have significant differences, but calling them completely different is kinda missing the mark.
ZephDT 10 months ago
@ZephDT I don't think completely different isn't far fetched if we compare them to one another alone. Brawl Vs. Melee Vs. 64. They are worlds different. Yes the objective is still the same but Soul Caliber, Street Fighter and Tekken all have the same "Objective" (Take down your opponents life bar) The main objective isn't enough to convince me that they aren't extremely different. Again, this isn't SF vs SSBM vs SSBB vs KH. Strictly comparison between the three games.
shortiecanbrawl 10 months ago
@shortiecanbrawl
You keep saying that they're completely different games. Care to clarify how exactly they're different? I've played all but SSB64 competitively and do not see much of a difference. Of course, the metagame adapted with new characters, stages and physics, but I do not find that enough to merit calling the three games completely different.
ZephDT 10 months ago
@ZephDT Like I said before in a lot of games the character is pretty stable throughout the series. Street Fighter for example, used the same sprites in tons of spin-off games. The Ryu played virtually the same in all of them. Now this is no way true for smash. Ex: If you played as SFIII ryu, then played as Ryu in MvC2. You would be playing virtually the exact same character. If you play as Kirby in 64 you can not switch to brawl and be as good as you were in 64 straight away.
shortiecanbrawl 10 months ago
Please tell me why Melee is better then Brawl.
Because of the wavedash?
In my opinion is wavedash a technique showing skills and "hit and run".
OrkTv 11 months ago
@OrkTv - You don't "hit and run" with wavedashing. I find it funny that you bring that up though, because that's EXACTLY how people play Brawl.
I've explained a bajillion times why I think Melee is better than Brawl. You can sift through the comments to find them, if you wish.
Seph05 11 months ago 4
@OrkTv perhaps because it has more options..... also everyone character could be fast in melee thus advanced techniques helped balance out the cast. Brawl sucks dude, everyone knows it stop being a noob.
most of all melee is actually entertaining to watch/play. It is, after all, a game.....
SmashVelox 11 months ago
@SmashVelox So if there comes an SSB4 with Brawl graphics, more options and balanced characters, but without Wavedashing and L-cancelling, you would play it.
I would.
OrkTv 11 months ago
um mele better then brawl? youjust lik combos wavedashing and l canceling so much that you don't see awsome new features and gamemodes and the adventure mode you have the such faggots about it 64>>>>>>>>>>brawl>>>>>>>>>melee
MrYokokurama1 11 months ago
@MrYokokurama1 - You don't know why I prefer Melee over Brawl. Stop making things up.
Seph05 11 months ago
@MrYokokurama1 Um, the adventure mode was a sad attempt at putting in a story line to a fighting game. It was rather pathetic, in my opinion. I've played both and Brawl is fun but Melee is a lot harder to be good at and has a lot more depth. Plus, Ganon is Brawl is fucking retarded, but Ganon in Melee was fucking BEAST!
wabitgirl 10 months ago
@MrYokokurama1
lol adventure mode. Most people who played melee competitively like it more than brawl because melee has a more competitive scene. Stuff like adventure mode are meaningless to them. Of course, Brawl might be more casual, but melee just has more room for skill, improvement of skill, etc.
ZephDT 10 months ago
@ZephDT eh its true but brawl has ore likes outta all the smash bros series i like brawl for crtain reasons i play melee hardly ever but ike needs to leave brawl. but i like 64 outta all the smash bros series. even the creator of the series said he wasn't a competitive person so he made brawl more of a fun game for people then more of a competitive thing
MrYokokurama1 10 months ago
Is this a Melee tourneyfag meeting?
I like Melee, but only because I was young when I was playing the game with my friends and we were having a good time.
Brawl is way better. I mean, Dr. Mario???
Abusing glitches for winning is not playing the game for fun anymore.
By the way, if you response, you are a tourneyfag.
OrkTv 11 months ago
@OrkTv - Explain to me the glitches used. Oh, and telling someone they are a such and such if they reply shows your lack of confidence for being able to hold your own in an argument. "Tourneyfag" isn't even an insult though, tbh. What does that mean? That I travel? Meet people? Possibly make money?
Pathetic.
Seph05 11 months ago
@Seph05 I'm sorry.
I hate it when people say that Brawl is a way worse version of Melee.
Why is Melee better?
OrkTv 11 months ago
@OrkTv
Yet, you believe that abusing Snake's Mortar Glide glitch and watching many many meta knights abuse their broken and over-sped up attacks is COMPLETELY legit? Sir, reading your comment made me facepalm a countless amount of times.
In Brawl, there are so many infinite grabs and glitches. I would gladly write out a list for you.
AzianRyceKid 11 months ago
@OrkTv No, this is someone exhibiting the things about Brawl that makes serious gamers (yes, they exist, and a lot of them have quite interesting lives and are really cool people) cringe, squirm and rage. That's what this is. Brawl isn't necessarily better or worse over all, but it's not the same kind of game. It's much more of a party game, not a competitive game, like Melee.
wabitgirl 10 months ago
@wabitgirl A party game? Serious? Only because it's a little slower than Melee you call it a party game? If you mean with party game "you play it with friends and thus have way more fun", I agree with you. If you mean, you don't have to do anything, it's way too easy, you're wrong.
Melee is harder.
Brawl is more fun to play.
OrkTv 10 months ago
@OrkTv Melee is more fun to play with friends as well. What I mean is that it's easier to be pretty good at Brawl than it is to be pretty good at Melee. You don't have to practice to compete in Brawl when you're playing with your friends and such. There's nothing wrong with it. As for being more fun, that's really a matter of opinion. You still have to do stuff in Brawl, no denying it, just not quite as much as in Melee. they're both good games, I just prefer one to the other.
wabitgirl 10 months ago
OrkTv 10 months ago
@OrkTv - I'm going to put into my own words what you basically just said:
"You can have your own opinion, but I'm going to throw out more reasons as to why I think you should like Brawl better."
Needless to say, that's really, REALLY stupid.
Seph05 10 months ago
#8
Is that...momentum cancel? Weegee's flight path looked like it suddenly hit a brick wall.
Vnewbie 11 months ago
the only - to brawl (for me) is that mewtwo is replaced with lucario :(
dutchy253Q 1 year ago
This video forgot to add MetaKnight as one of the top reasons. Lol
Dpeters17 1 year ago
Man I'm Happy With Brawl :[
I Would Want This:
Melee With Brawl's Graphics, Characters(Brawl&Melee), Stages(Brawl&Melee)
troidberg 1 year ago
what are #6 and 7?
abramax399 1 year ago
#6 = Totalol
SuperM3D 1 year ago
You lost me at #8...
But I thought #5 was pretty funny.
phantom1053 1 year ago
@Seph05 i thought it was the stage and the stage music lol
JoeWildthing 1 year ago
una mierda el brawl, ni lo juego y usando a meta le gano a los weones q pasan jugando con personajes como rob, lucas, peach, y tambien le puedo ganar a buenos snake users XD meta----> tier list
suck
dexiafox 1 year ago
I just klicked the vid to read funny flamewars...
SmashingGreen 1 year ago 24
This video is the only amazing thing about Brawl. thumbs up.
drunkkunmonkey 1 year ago
@drunkkunmonkey <33333333333333
OurenV2 1 year ago
No idea what anything in this was supposed to prove. Was it supposed to be sarcastic or serious? Most of these things are really minor problems and don't really make the game any worse. But yeah, I kinda agree on number 4, I've only had like one good match on Wi-Fi.
Freaking temple campers.
Antifrost 1 year ago
ProSuperSmash1 1 year ago
While I do agree there are some things in Brawl that straight up annoy me like tripping, it's a fun game overall. It may not be as fast-paced or competitive as Melee, but it doesn't have to be. A smash game is a smash game, and everyone will have their opinions about a smash game. It's fun in its own way. I remember when I used to hate brawl with a passion, but then I started playing again and realized how fun it really gets, so give it another chance!
Kablammer4 1 year ago
@Kablammer4 I seriously cannot fathom why people could ever hate Brawl. Yes, I understand that it's not Melee or 64, but does it have to be? I honestly prefer Brawl over Melee (mostly because of Spear Pillar and Smart Bombs).
Also, I've still yet to see how people say that Brawl is slower than Melee, I just don't understand what that means.
Antifrost 1 year ago
@Antifrost "Also, I've still yet to see how people say that Brawl is slower than Melee"
I'm going to knock you in the teeth.
OurenV2 1 year ago
@OurenV2 Go ahead, that's still not going to show me anything.
Antifrost 1 year ago
Why not make a top 100?
SSBVince 1 year ago
This guy is my god.
SSBVince 1 year ago
Brawl's loading times.... ugh.
LULZTHREAT 1 year ago
277 people suck at Brawl.
pasionxrock 1 year ago
@pasionxrock Someone doesn't get irony...ironic, really XD
wabitgirl 10 months ago
LOL
mrlightning291 1 year ago
Guys listen if you're a fan of the games play them, I like all 3 but melee is my fav, but don't argue like idiots about which game is best They all have there flaws/advantages.
Darkslayer577 1 year ago
brawl is faster than any of the other games.
MicahUIC 1 year ago
I've played Melee and i've played Brawl. Well, i've played the whole series. Brawl i like more than Melee bacause isn't slow as the N64 version but neither fast as Melee. The speed is ok. You can more easily scape from combos allowing fight and don't be a punching bag for pros (lol).
I dont really understand that of "competitive", when a game must be funny, accessible for the public and try be balanced for all the players.
teritriano 1 year ago
I play melee because it's fun!
lolmuffins1 1 year ago
melee >>>>>>>>>>>> brawl :P
AFilms01 1 year ago 6
@AFilms01 Pretty much every GCN game is better than any wii game.
LoquenderoPrincipe 9 months ago
how did you fail so much with the knee?
MrAkioKira 1 year ago
the best in brawl is de music jajjajaa
darkbatu 1 year ago
IMO, only 10, 9, 4, and 3 are viable complaints.
tree2992 1 year ago
@Soph05 if you like competitive games so much why diss brawl...some of the reasons why you dissed te game are just ridiculus...and why does king dededes pose thing had to do with it...and the game is meant to be simple and fun....I do like competition but not to the point where that's all the game becomes..trust me my friends really get ticked off when they loose...look we both have our own opinoins so I'll leave it at that...NO ONES RIGHT
Ike7175 1 year ago
@Seph05 look i'm sry I got carried away and I respect your opinoin but some of the reasons why you disliked the game were pretty stupid let's leave this behind us :)
Ike7175 1 year ago
Wow I messed up that last comment :p
Ike7175 1 year ago
@Seph05 look you have your opinoin and I have mine..brawl had more of everything and if you can't handle some minor and sometimes helpful additions ad you can't play because of a "lack of speed" then I don't know what to say....and the c-stick can be cheap because players can just keep using that and be cheap by doin notin else. The smash bros is about having being
Competitive AND having fun...mostly the fun part
Ike7175 1 year ago
@Ike7175 - Lack of hitstun, multiple airdodges, auto-grabbing ledges, etc. are MAJOR changes/additions. It completely changed how you play the game.
I don't know how someone can't play a slower game. That doesn't make sense to me.
I also don't know why you keep quoting "lack of speed" as if I mentioned that somewhere.
I, like many others, get the most enjoyment out of a game if it's worthy of being competitive. There are some exceptions, like single player games, 2-4 player co-op games, etc.
Seph05 1 year ago 12
@Seph05 pussy
dexiafox 1 year ago
Honeslty I have no idea why people think brawl has lost it's "competitive edge" I mean seriosly melée is fun and all but players can really be cheap with the c-stick and In brawl to. Brawl has more of everything. so stop saying it sucks because of a "speed reduction" and because u just dont want 2 admit that u suck at it..and it's not nintendos fault that u have crappy Internet connection.
Ike7175 1 year ago
@Ike7175 - Every technical aspect in Melee was removed. Hitstun was removed. Auto grabbing ledges was added. Tripping was added. You have no idea why people think Brawl has lost it's competitive edge? Really?
Also, how is your comment about the c-stick a point against Melee if people can be "cheap" with it in Brawl too? That had no value whatsoever.
Seph05 1 year ago
@Seph05 Because Jigglypuff requires real competitive edge in melee. U tilt rest profit. I play both competitively and like both. They have there advantages and disadvantages you're just a militant melee.fan.
BOOBOO3976 1 year ago
@BOOBOO3976 - To me it just sounds like you are mad about getting beat by Jigglypuff all the time.
Seph05 1 year ago
@Seph05 I play as Jigglypuff.
BOOBOO3976 1 year ago
@BOOBOO3976 - So...you're mad that the character you play as is easy to use? I just don't see what point you're trying to make.
Seph05 1 year ago
@Seph05 I was a Falco main. But when Jiggz started to come up all over the place bair and uair+rest raped. I am now using Jigglypuff in most match ups. Watch some Hbox matches and you will see how good Bair spamming is. Melee is no more balanced.
BOOBOO3976 1 year ago
@BOOBOO3976 - I am well aware of what Jigglypuff is capable of, however, I don't see why you started this conversation. My comments were about competitiveness, not comparing the difference in character balance between Brawl and Melee.
Seph05 1 year ago