Comparison of Freestyle (Jones, Phelps and TI coach)

[chrisevilmonkey]

i think the reason why we think TI has the smoothest stroke is also cus he is smaller compare to the other 2.

[concussedcarneous]

the lower the head the faster u go

always

[dgt0099]

@concussedcarneous the lower the head is, the higher the feets are, that's why it is called TI and that's why it is faster.

[HollaStaxx24]

awesome stroke

[lordscrub]

You can clearly see that the TI swimmer has the smoothest stroke of the 3

[myfatself]

I wonder what TI Coach Takeuchi's age and best freestyle times are / were?

He has the most aesthetically pleasing stroke of the three, though they all look very similar.

[willchang1978]

好!

[hatecape]

no, not distance but both the swimmer and the workout determine the necessity for breathing. Are you trying for distance and endurance; is it a sprint course? Are you getting ready for a free dive? Beginner or veteran? Good form or bad? In the end every workout can be different, so every method can be considered proper or improper.

[zacharareymuffin]

there is no CORRECT breathing pattern... it depends on your personal preferece and your body length

[SLIM24lok]

You're completely right, it depends on each swimmer and how they swim...

For example, if you want to do long turns like Phelps does, normally is better to breath each stroke, so you get to the turn with enough oxygen to stay a long time underwater...

[UNo0b]

The distance determines how much you should breathe. I think in 200 yard races or more its common for people to breathe every other stroke but in the 50 some people breathe once or twice(some people say not at all but that is usually just being stupid and slowing yourself in the end).

[skopjem]

yes they should breathe on every third stroke....when i was learning to swimm my trainer was teaching me to breathe that way :D but in race you are waisting lot of energy and you need lot more air :D

[skopjem]

Maaan they are having the same crawl tehnique....its great, but phelps is the best anyway

[stenzi517]

maybe the fastest, but not the smoothest. the japanese guy has the best stroke

[splinkyourlife]

Hi everybody,

I am working on a studyproject, analizing the free style movement for my anatomylessons. This is such a good example and I would like to place the video in my powerpoint presentation. Does anyone know if I can, copy past only the video in pp?

Hope someone can help me out!

[jarjarbinx79]

use atube converter to convert this video into wmv. As a wmv file, you can easily add it into the powerpoint by insert object.... or..... you can simply put a youtube link and hope you are online during the presentation

[andresrojas22]

what distances does coach takeuchi swims?

[arroy624]

racastilho, really good observation... this also tell us how overwhelming phelp is physically... unless people can prove the head dive actually removes some drag? or his exhale sequence actually add to the speed? lol i also have a stable torso when doing freestyle... the actually suggest insane arm speed :)

[arroy624]

they should show more underwater footage of the handstroke that make the difference... i think takeuchi's stroke is rather efficient... and gives more room for speed improvement if executed correctly.

[createanomaly]

phelps's torso is proportioned to that of a man who stands 6'8", while his legs would be proportionate to that of a man who stands 6 feet tall. double jointed in the knees... the man was made for competitive swimming.

[pinkweaselgirl]

u shouldn't hold ur breath but you want to minimize breathing, especially in a sprint

[john1108]

wat u mean?

u have to hold ur breath to minimize breathing.

[djbiggmike]

The reason he is faster cause his height and his long ass feet.

[stevenstreet483]

Micheal Phelps works harder than everyone else... thats why he is the best. Just like Tiger Woods works harder than everyone else.

[racastilho]

Funny how Phelps sinks his head a little after the right arm stroke... The other guys styles do seem cleaner than Phelp's.

[elixirnova]

Good notice, he is so freakishly powerful in the water that he doesn't even need balanced technique...

Noticably that style is probably more the consequence of an incredibly stable torso not being able to rotate free of the hips as easily since there are many great swimmers that do it (minus the top 50free swimmers)

[arroy624]

racastilho, really good observation... this also tell us how overwhelming phelp is physically... unless people can prove the head dive actually removes some drag? or his exhale sequence actually add to the speed? lol i also have a stable torso when doing freestyle... the actually suggest insane arm speed :)

[Amberheart317]

HE GOT 10 GOLD MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[slappydum]

laurel have you ever even swum before?

[laurelcrayon29]

Actually both of the first two have a better freestyle than Phelps technically, do the fact that they don't breathe every stoke. I have been combing youtube for a video of Phelps demonstrating that he can hold his breath more than a second and have been baffled again and again.  Obviously he is fast but what the heck? Do not emulate this aspect of his technique. Hold your breath already!

[mca4u]

Laurel

What slappydum means is you DO NOT hold your breath at anytime during the freestyle! You should be either exhaling underwater or inhaling air above water. NO HOLDING BREATH! introduces tension! = BAD!

[mca4u]

Laurel

You should not hold your breath at anytime!

[karlinaxmae]

Besides, breathing every stroke ensures even strokes so that you have a good rhythm.

[karlinaxmae]

Besides, breathing every stroke ensures even strokes so there's no disruption in the rhythm.

[fballphil814]

yeah every1 here but laurel is rite, although the other two are cleaner then phelps, he is faster

[free4david]

Breathing every stroke is only effective for long distance races. With a sprint, breathing every 2 or 3 strokes is the correct way for speed.

[ulsbolde89]

I will have to agree with laurel. The correct method is breathing every three, which helps with the speed cause. Besides surfacing the head for air causes a slight drag.

[totalswimm]

The point being made is that Shinji is 43, an "average joe" and only began swimming-improvement in 2003, yet now swims with a style remarkably similar - at slower paces - to world class swimmers.

As his goals focus much more on swimming for well-being and enjoyment, not Olympic medals...and he can swim like swimmers with the world's best coaching, "Olympic genes," and who do millions of meters per year, more's the power.

[wanmus]

I am new to swimming, can somebody tell me what are the differences among these strokes ? Are'nt they the same ?

[SpeedPastYou]

no, there is freestyle with your arms moving forward(out of the water) at different times and legs kicking, straight, with slightly bent knees,there is buttterfly,with arms moving together,then your feet, chest,&legs move togethere to do dolphin kick, there is breastroke, with hands moving together then apart in an outward heartshape motion, and legs doing the same, except inward. back stroke employs the same leg mechanics as freestyle, except the arms differs(straight with underwater recovery).

[FreshyQ247]

I'm sure wanmus is asking about the strokes shown above, not about different events.

Their timing is all slightly different: when they stroke, how they kick, how they breath.

It is easier to see the differences when they race. Try looking up a 200 free from Michael Phelps. You'll see a big difference between his stroke and the next guy.

[antokindness]

Thsi video is from TOTAL IMMERSION, a trademark which affirms that in order to swim good you have to swim SMOOTH and LONG: for this, it is showing all these champions swimming "long" strokes: but this is good only when you swim slow...when you want to be fast, you have to go for immediate and deep "catch": check out "Eamon-Sullivan 50 free" on YouTube and you will see what I am talking about; bye and cheers.

[elixirnova]

Great job to the TI coach. Phelps and Jones definitely have just about everything one could want in a freestyle technique. Part of being the fastest means your the best in every possible way, which includes slow pace. As you can see slow pace surely isn't something phelps or jones swims with a majority of the time at practice, but the body line and position and distance per stroke and holding onto the water are all present, generally the turnover is much slower thus the timing is different.

[elixirnova]

For whoever made the comment that they do not train this way on fast sets, YES THEY DO. albeit phelps actually probably kicks and their TIMING is RACING SPECIFIC timing (aka tempo for some coaches/swimmers) The skills are all there the reason this TI coach isn't 1:43 or 21 in the freestyle is (aside from conditioning and max power output) the timing of all the techniques flowing together to make a perfect racing technique....

[mca4u]

Very Informative Video! Several TI concepts were developed many years ago, by studying the grace and efficiency of top competitive swimmers, from a different era. In the same manner that the fastest automobiles approximate to a common "tear-drop" shape, so the best Olympic swimmers will tend to look more alike in style as they all embrace the efficiency concepts on which TI is based.

[swimmer4ever200687]

but what i got to say , no one of them swims like that in training .

when they recive the next 20x100 set , trust me , the style will change 180 degrees :) .

i guess that .

[mca4u]

I am assuming you can read, which might be a stretch, given your poor writing skills. The begining of the video identifies what we are watching as... "A comparision of Easy Pace Freestyle". If you allude to the fact that Olympic training is most likely to include a faster stroke rate, you might well be right. But you don't actually make that point! What is your point?

[folala4898]

Another great video.

It's re-assuring to see that TI style is similar to some of the great swimmers.