How much pressure are you applying with the 3000 grit paper? I ask because with the 2500 paper it seemed liked you used very little pressure and let the paper do the work, but with the 3000 paper you seemed to really be on it.
@hungry718 I can't give you a pound per square inch number but I was applying more pressure because the 3000 was previously used and didn't have as much cut as a new sheet would have. Normally, your pressure would be even with all the grits.
@Junkman2000 Thanks a bunch! Me and a friend are trying our hand at wet sanding and buffing some small parts of a body kit this weekend. Your videos are FANTASTIC and VERY helpful. Being a former military man myself I can appreciate your way of teaching lol. Keep the awesome vids coming.
definitely not suffering - learning my man - I love learning new things and I want to implement this into arsenal of things I've always wanted to do - subscribed - thank you for your knowledge and passing it onto novice detailers like me
Clear coat is something that is permanent and has to be sprayed on by a painter. This is only done at a painting facility. Polish is a product that is used to fix the damage in the clear coat. It is put on the buffing pad or directly on the area that you are about to fix. You then work it for a while and once it has been worked enough, you wipe it off and look at the results. NOTHING REMAINS BEHIND WITH THAT PROCESS.
One the paint is fixed, you apply wax which DOES remain.
@Junkman2000 ... I had a little scratch on my driver door that (when I was ultra novice) touched it up with a those touched up pens and it made it worst with bumps .... now ( since I gained a novice title :-) ) do you think wet-sanding that little spot would remove the touch up and polishing it a little less harshly than you did on this video:) would work fine ... thanks for the best videos ....
@fayezshehab With experience, you can make it look somewhat better but once you stick paint in there that was not a perfect match, it will always look like a 5 year old did it. You are not going to wet sand the paint out without making matters worse. My advice? Leave it alone until you get really good at this.
@fayezshehab Look at clear coat like the skin on your body. It is permanent. Soap is used to clean your skin. Soap is like a polish. Wax would be equivalent to sun tan lotion. It protects your skin but can wash or wear off over time. Make sense now?
u da man junkman!!! i just started doing bumper recon almost a year ago and was surfing youtube to see if i could find any vid tips to fast track me.....urs came up and is mucho appreciated!
I just paid over $9000 to have my car painted at a high end shop, but they want to charge me another $2000 to wetsand the brand new black paintjob they did. They say it is needed in order to cut down on minor orange-peel and a few imperfections that I have pointed out. They have offered me the opportunity to use their shop and do it myself. Would I be using only 3000 grade to smooth out the paint and remove some very minor dust marks?
@hwyone If you paid that much to have the car painted, there should be no flaws in the paint. If you are finding flaws, they should fix them for free and it shouldn't cost you a dime.
Now to be totally honest, the question that you are asking me tells me that you are the last person who should be doing what you are thinking about doing. I make this look much easier than it actually is and you could end up screwing up the paint job that you just had done.
@hwyone I'm not saying this to be mean, I'm being totally honest here. If I were you, I would go to a different shop that knows what they are doing and get some estimates as to what it would take to get your issues fixed. I would also check with some knowledgeable detailer as this is not the job for you. Trust me on this.
Never use whoever painted your car again. They should fix those issues for free.
@GMCs15lover I don't know as you are not providing me enough info to answer your question. Questions like this are best answered via email with a lot more information.
@Junkman2000 i am restoring my pickup and im sanding it down for new paint i ised 240 before primer and now that the primers on should i use 800 or do i need to go higher or will a new paint job cover the 800 grit scratches
Dear Sir, like others, I am thankful for your detail and generosity in your video instruction/demo.
Need some advice.... I have wet-sanded with 2500 then 3000 grit on a spot at my toyota ( gold metallic paint ) . which now have a dull 3" diameter of lighter paint patch. I think the clear coat may had been damaged. Is there any thing I can do besides sending it for repaint ? I tried Quixx tube 1 polish and tube 2 finish over it, still the same faded color patch.
@graffemum If you have truly removed the clear coat, then there is nothing you can do but have the panel repainted. This is why I stress the importance of a paint thickness gauge. It keeps you from making this type of mistake.
You may want to try using the products that I use in this video series as I am not familiar with the effectiveness of the products that you are using to remove the wet sanding damage. I don't know if they will help but they are a cheaper alternative than a paint job.
This video was great. I have alot of orange peel from a recent paint job. 86 elcamino. Should I wet sand the whole vehicle or just the spots (lots of it).
The only way to remove orange peel is to wet sand it. However, you must have a paint thickness gauge or as a novice, you will probably end up killing your paint job. Wet sanding orange peel requires plenty of clear to start with, and then you have to shoot more clear on the car after sanding in order to build up enough clear for protection. This takes multiple coats of clear and a lot of sanding to make it look like glass.
Mr Junkman2000 thankyou for these excellent videos. I've looked at some on you tube and they are terrible and some people are giving poor advice. Yours are fantastic and the advice is spot on!!! thanks again I've learned lots from your videos. One question. If I sand with 2000 grit can i then refine with 3000 grit ?
Finally! I'm now confident I've been shown the RIGHT way. Thanks Junkman! You took the time to teach me. I'll make the effort to find Adam's. Thank you so much!
You should always add a little bit of liquid dish soap into your water!
It lubricates to allow your block to flow much nicer, It prevents any possibility of build up on your sand paper and also cleans the surface and surounding area of any dirt, grease/oil and wax. Also keeps your hands free of oil that could get into the opened clear, paint or primer! And if you use Palmolive® your hands will be silky soft, just ask Madge - Circa 1981 :)
Junkman is G! he showed us how to do this on a car that needs new paint anyways [on the hood atleast since the clear is penetrated] this shows how dedicated he is to sharing his knowledge with us, he could care less about those clearcoat scratches on the mean o camino but he still took the time to demonstrate for us!
so your saying the new jacks cant be a pro like the "Old school pro"? Would you buy a product that performs a perfect job in half the time of the "old school pros" You would be pretty stupid not to..Unless you want to get in shape wet sanding your car.
No, I'm saying the Chip Fooses go about getting the job done in a manner where time is not a issue. You're obviously in it for the money. That's what separates me from you. I'm in it for the love. I enjoy rubbing on my baby and she enjoys that I don't do the wham, bam, thank you ma'am.
What do you mean time is not an issue? So why use a PC? Do it by hand if thats the case.
Im sure there is a dip you cant see in the area you were wetsanding with as much pressure you were using with that block. Hell you never even got the scatch out with all that work done. Your disappointing your own baby lol. Sand paper is designed for light pressure, not xtreme pressure as to what you were doing. Let the sand paper do the work. Start with 1500 or 2000 grit and work your way up to 3000.
If you knew as much as you claim to know about wet sanding, then you would know that you cannot remove 1500 grit sanding damage with a orbital polisher.
These videos are made for novices to paint care. Had you read the threads that the videos are posted in, you'd know that. You're just looking at the videos and coming to a conclusion of what I should be doing. You fail.
The last thing that I am going to tell a novice user to do is to pick up some 1500 grit sandpaper and go at his ride.
you have to be stupid to try and polish out 1500 grit sand scatches. Like I said you start off with 1500-2000 grit (depending on the amount of clear that needs to be removed) and work your way up to 3000. Starting at 3000 makes no sense because you will be there all day with minimal results. Dont get me wrong your videos are very informative to notive, but I think starting at 3000 grit is over kill.
Did you bother to watch my 1st wet sanding series where I started with 3000 grit sandpaper and removed a scratch using Meguiar's and Zaino products? If you did, you would go back and delete your post. I'll let it stay here because it was statements like yours that made me create that video series in the first place. It totally proves you wrong.
You're the type of guy who would tell someone who knows nothing about wet sanding to pick up some 1500 grit paper. I wouldn't do that to a novice. I just hope you are not a member of any detailing forums and giving out that kind of advice. That is just totally careless.
By the way, at any given dealership, 1500 is just about as high as they go before whipping out the ol' rotary and grinding across your car. Do you think they have 3000 grit paper at a dealership?
i would rather have them do that then you putting all that pressure on my hood warping it to hell. That is not good technique to relay to a novice. Now If just a single grain of dirt happen to fall on the area your sanding with that much pressure your apply, you would be digging yourself into a huge hole of scratches. key is to keep it light and watch your sanding as you go, and let the sand paper do the work. you might want to take another pass at the 2 scatches because they are still there.
Dude, you know little about wet sanding so I'm going to let you get your education elsewhere. That was a metal hood. They don't warp! You have your opinion. Put it in your wet sanding videos if you know how to make one.
The pressure your hood endures whilst going at 75 mph on the highway far surpasses the pressure he is applying to that particular part of the hood. It ain't going to warp unless it's made out of chocolate... the heat ain't anywhere near high enough for it to start softening the metal.
Junkman thanks for your educational videos. I think your right on. everyone who has been detailing knows to start out with the least aggressive method as possible and then evaluate it from there. Calling people stupid is just a sign of his ignorance. There is obviously several ways to get to the same finish but for novice your dead on. Especially working on my own babies I want to leave as much finish on my car as possible. Dealers dont care how
In these times, high end auto shops do not go through the hassle with 3000 grit paper when there is new design rubbing compound that will cut extra getting the job done easier and faster.
How much pressure are you applying with the 3000 grit paper? I ask because with the 2500 paper it seemed liked you used very little pressure and let the paper do the work, but with the 3000 paper you seemed to really be on it.
hungry718 5 months ago
@hungry718 I can't give you a pound per square inch number but I was applying more pressure because the 3000 was previously used and didn't have as much cut as a new sheet would have. Normally, your pressure would be even with all the grits.
Junkman2000 5 months ago
@Junkman2000 Thanks a bunch! Me and a friend are trying our hand at wet sanding and buffing some small parts of a body kit this weekend. Your videos are FANTASTIC and VERY helpful. Being a former military man myself I can appreciate your way of teaching lol. Keep the awesome vids coming.
hungry718 5 months ago
@hungry718 You're welcome and thanks for watching. :)
Junkman2000 5 months ago
nice video i actually learned!!!!
midget586 7 months ago
Great video!! Thanks for posting it! But where do you buy 2500 and 3000 grit sandpaper? My auto parts store doesn't carry it. Suggestions?
lambertjohn1 9 months ago
@lambertjohn1 You don't get those grits at auto stores. You have to go to professional auto body repair stores to get that type of stuff.
Junkman2000 9 months ago
definitely not suffering - learning my man - I love learning new things and I want to implement this into arsenal of things I've always wanted to do - subscribed - thank you for your knowledge and passing it onto novice detailers like me
ChiefMojoRisingLives 9 months ago
@ChiefMojoRisingLives Glad to be of service.
Junkman2000 9 months ago
would this method work on a fairly deep scratch about five feet long lol
poopoopoop40 9 months ago
@poopoopoop40 Uuhhhhh.... no.
Junkman2000 9 months ago
Hey Junkman, the clear coat that is removed from the wet-sanding, does it get replaced with the polish ? kinda not clear on this..!
fayezshehab 10 months ago
@fayezshehab NO.
Clear coat is something that is permanent and has to be sprayed on by a painter. This is only done at a painting facility. Polish is a product that is used to fix the damage in the clear coat. It is put on the buffing pad or directly on the area that you are about to fix. You then work it for a while and once it has been worked enough, you wipe it off and look at the results. NOTHING REMAINS BEHIND WITH THAT PROCESS.
One the paint is fixed, you apply wax which DOES remain.
Junkman2000 10 months ago
@Junkman2000 ... I had a little scratch on my driver door that (when I was ultra novice) touched it up with a those touched up pens and it made it worst with bumps .... now ( since I gained a novice title :-) ) do you think wet-sanding that little spot would remove the touch up and polishing it a little less harshly than you did on this video:) would work fine ... thanks for the best videos ....
fayezshehab 10 months ago
@fayezshehab With experience, you can make it look somewhat better but once you stick paint in there that was not a perfect match, it will always look like a 5 year old did it. You are not going to wet sand the paint out without making matters worse. My advice? Leave it alone until you get really good at this.
Junkman2000 10 months ago
@fayezshehab Look at clear coat like the skin on your body. It is permanent. Soap is used to clean your skin. Soap is like a polish. Wax would be equivalent to sun tan lotion. It protects your skin but can wash or wear off over time. Make sense now?
Junkman2000 10 months ago
@Junkman2000 ..... Perfect sense ... thanks for the advice .... btw I loved the corvette Laps ..
fayezshehab 10 months ago
@fayezshehab I'll try and stop screaming like a school girl this year! lol!
Junkman2000 10 months ago
u da man junkman!!! i just started doing bumper recon almost a year ago and was surfing youtube to see if i could find any vid tips to fast track me.....urs came up and is mucho appreciated!
iansaccount 1 year ago
@iansaccount Glad I could help. Thanks for watching.
Junkman2000 1 year ago
@10arshaun Nope, not something I'm into. I want my brake lights as bright as possible for that fool who is texting while driving.
Junkman2000 1 year ago
are u able to show how to tint and clear coat with mirror image on tail lights
10arshaun 1 year ago
Hello Junkman2000,
I just paid over $9000 to have my car painted at a high end shop, but they want to charge me another $2000 to wetsand the brand new black paintjob they did. They say it is needed in order to cut down on minor orange-peel and a few imperfections that I have pointed out. They have offered me the opportunity to use their shop and do it myself. Would I be using only 3000 grade to smooth out the paint and remove some very minor dust marks?
hwyone 1 year ago
@hwyone If you paid that much to have the car painted, there should be no flaws in the paint. If you are finding flaws, they should fix them for free and it shouldn't cost you a dime.
Now to be totally honest, the question that you are asking me tells me that you are the last person who should be doing what you are thinking about doing. I make this look much easier than it actually is and you could end up screwing up the paint job that you just had done.
Junkman2000 1 year ago
@hwyone I'm not saying this to be mean, I'm being totally honest here. If I were you, I would go to a different shop that knows what they are doing and get some estimates as to what it would take to get your issues fixed. I would also check with some knowledgeable detailer as this is not the job for you. Trust me on this.
Never use whoever painted your car again. They should fix those issues for free.
Junkman2000 1 year ago
im sanding a car for paint is 800 grit good enough for a new paint job to cover
GMCs15lover 1 year ago
@GMCs15lover I don't know as you are not providing me enough info to answer your question. Questions like this are best answered via email with a lot more information.
Junkman2000 1 year ago
@Junkman2000 i am restoring my pickup and im sanding it down for new paint i ised 240 before primer and now that the primers on should i use 800 or do i need to go higher or will a new paint job cover the 800 grit scratches
GMCs15lover 1 year ago
@GMCs15lover I don't know. I don't paint cars.
Junkman2000 1 year ago
@Junkman2000 ok thank you anyway
GMCs15lover 1 year ago
decent
hopkin104 1 year ago
I would suggest you use some lubrication..ie soap or wash up liquid, the paper will work much easier and better..
Thevoiceofreasonful 1 year ago
Junkman2000
Dear Sir, like others, I am thankful for your detail and generosity in your video instruction/demo.
Need some advice.... I have wet-sanded with 2500 then 3000 grit on a spot at my toyota ( gold metallic paint ) . which now have a dull 3" diameter of lighter paint patch. I think the clear coat may had been damaged. Is there any thing I can do besides sending it for repaint ? I tried Quixx tube 1 polish and tube 2 finish over it, still the same faded color patch.
THANKS.
graffemum 1 year ago
@graffemum If you have truly removed the clear coat, then there is nothing you can do but have the panel repainted. This is why I stress the importance of a paint thickness gauge. It keeps you from making this type of mistake.
You may want to try using the products that I use in this video series as I am not familiar with the effectiveness of the products that you are using to remove the wet sanding damage. I don't know if they will help but they are a cheaper alternative than a paint job.
Junkman2000 1 year ago
This video was great. I have alot of orange peel from a recent paint job. 86 elcamino. Should I wet sand the whole vehicle or just the spots (lots of it).
m5d1k 1 year ago
@m5d1k
The only way to remove orange peel is to wet sand it. However, you must have a paint thickness gauge or as a novice, you will probably end up killing your paint job. Wet sanding orange peel requires plenty of clear to start with, and then you have to shoot more clear on the car after sanding in order to build up enough clear for protection. This takes multiple coats of clear and a lot of sanding to make it look like glass.
My advice, let a professional do it.
Junkman2000 1 year ago
Mr Junkman2000 thankyou for these excellent videos. I've looked at some on you tube and they are terrible and some people are giving poor advice. Yours are fantastic and the advice is spot on!!! thanks again I've learned lots from your videos. One question. If I sand with 2000 grit can i then refine with 3000 grit ?
masswax 1 year ago
@masswax
You should refine with 2500 and then 3000. That would be the proper way to do it.
Thanks for watching!
Junkman2000 1 year ago
Finally! I'm now confident I've been shown the RIGHT way. Thanks Junkman! You took the time to teach me. I'll make the effort to find Adam's. Thank you so much!
mrriden 1 year ago
@mrriden Thanks for watching sir!
Use the coupon code "Junkman" and you'll get 10% off your purchase!
Junkman2000 1 year ago
An excellent video, I learned a great deal. Thank you for posting it.
JohnMc52 1 year ago
You should always add a little bit of liquid dish soap into your water!
It lubricates to allow your block to flow much nicer, It prevents any possibility of build up on your sand paper and also cleans the surface and surounding area of any dirt, grease/oil and wax. Also keeps your hands free of oil that could get into the opened clear, paint or primer! And if you use Palmolive® your hands will be silky soft, just ask Madge - Circa 1981 :)
aaronfu2 1 year ago
Junkman is G! he showed us how to do this on a car that needs new paint anyways [on the hood atleast since the clear is penetrated] this shows how dedicated he is to sharing his knowledge with us, he could care less about those clearcoat scratches on the mean o camino but he still took the time to demonstrate for us!
bingbong609 1 year ago
@bingbong609
Thanks for watching!
Junkman2000 1 year ago
looks good. I had to do this for some bird-poop that ate thru my clear (cheap clear). I used the 3m dry guide coat to see when I was through it.
67dodgepolara 1 year ago
Hey thxs for the videos on this. Im using your techniques on my motorcycle tank. Its turning out great!
JILLFIREHAWK777 2 years ago
haha "good enough for government work"
great vid.
very informative
donjuandj 2 years ago
great videos!
nothuyngo 2 years ago
Junkman2000 U have some serious technique fantastic
job.Ill post some of my detail techniques take care.
jjhonnyem626 2 years ago
Thank you sir!
Junkman2000 2 years ago
so your saying the new jacks cant be a pro like the "Old school pro"? Would you buy a product that performs a perfect job in half the time of the "old school pros" You would be pretty stupid not to..Unless you want to get in shape wet sanding your car.
cuttie100 2 years ago
No, I'm saying the Chip Fooses go about getting the job done in a manner where time is not a issue. You're obviously in it for the money. That's what separates me from you. I'm in it for the love. I enjoy rubbing on my baby and she enjoys that I don't do the wham, bam, thank you ma'am.
New jacks wouldn't understand that.
Junkman2000 2 years ago
What do you mean time is not an issue? So why use a PC? Do it by hand if thats the case.
Im sure there is a dip you cant see in the area you were wetsanding with as much pressure you were using with that block. Hell you never even got the scatch out with all that work done. Your disappointing your own baby lol. Sand paper is designed for light pressure, not xtreme pressure as to what you were doing. Let the sand paper do the work. Start with 1500 or 2000 grit and work your way up to 3000.
cuttie100 2 years ago
If you knew as much as you claim to know about wet sanding, then you would know that you cannot remove 1500 grit sanding damage with a orbital polisher.
These videos are made for novices to paint care. Had you read the threads that the videos are posted in, you'd know that. You're just looking at the videos and coming to a conclusion of what I should be doing. You fail.
The last thing that I am going to tell a novice user to do is to pick up some 1500 grit sandpaper and go at his ride.
Junkman2000 2 years ago
you have to be stupid to try and polish out 1500 grit sand scatches. Like I said you start off with 1500-2000 grit (depending on the amount of clear that needs to be removed) and work your way up to 3000. Starting at 3000 makes no sense because you will be there all day with minimal results. Dont get me wrong your videos are very informative to notive, but I think starting at 3000 grit is over kill.
cuttie100 2 years ago
Did you bother to watch my 1st wet sanding series where I started with 3000 grit sandpaper and removed a scratch using Meguiar's and Zaino products? If you did, you would go back and delete your post. I'll let it stay here because it was statements like yours that made me create that video series in the first place. It totally proves you wrong.
Junkman2000 2 years ago
You're the type of guy who would tell someone who knows nothing about wet sanding to pick up some 1500 grit paper. I wouldn't do that to a novice. I just hope you are not a member of any detailing forums and giving out that kind of advice. That is just totally careless.
By the way, at any given dealership, 1500 is just about as high as they go before whipping out the ol' rotary and grinding across your car. Do you think they have 3000 grit paper at a dealership?
Junkman2000 2 years ago
i would rather have them do that then you putting all that pressure on my hood warping it to hell. That is not good technique to relay to a novice. Now If just a single grain of dirt happen to fall on the area your sanding with that much pressure your apply, you would be digging yourself into a huge hole of scratches. key is to keep it light and watch your sanding as you go, and let the sand paper do the work. you might want to take another pass at the 2 scatches because they are still there.
cuttie100 2 years ago
Dude, you know little about wet sanding so I'm going to let you get your education elsewhere. That was a metal hood. They don't warp! You have your opinion. Put it in your wet sanding videos if you know how to make one.
Junkman2000 2 years ago
The pressure your hood endures whilst going at 75 mph on the highway far surpasses the pressure he is applying to that particular part of the hood. It ain't going to warp unless it's made out of chocolate... the heat ain't anywhere near high enough for it to start softening the metal.
superfragger 2 years ago
Thanks for the input of logic and physics but I think he is a lost cause. Although that chocolate reference did make me hungry!
Junkman2000 2 years ago
Yumm Chocolate!
Junkman thanks for your educational videos. I think your right on. everyone who has been detailing knows to start out with the least aggressive method as possible and then evaluate it from there. Calling people stupid is just a sign of his ignorance. There is obviously several ways to get to the same finish but for novice your dead on. Especially working on my own babies I want to leave as much finish on my car as possible. Dealers dont care how
scalisema 2 years ago
I agree!
Junkman2000 2 years ago
In these times, high end auto shops do not go through the hassle with 3000 grit paper when there is new design rubbing compound that will cut extra getting the job done easier and faster.
cuttie100 2 years ago
A that's what separates the old school pro's from the new jacks. It's not about fast, it's about perfect. I don't cater to fast, I cater to anal.
Junkman2000 2 years ago
I think the suffering is a good thing. I at least get a real feel for what should be done. Your vids are great !
Enigma00017 2 years ago
Thanks bro!
Junkman2000 2 years ago
First :P
ShogunDK 2 years ago