Herman Murray ~ HOLINESS!!! Preachers who preach weakness!!!!

[preach752]

You'll preaching preacher! Keep telling it. 

[UHCPraizer2010]

PREACH!

[ikeashiasanders29]

AMEN

[ktippins26]

I thank God for true holiness with sanctification, because people are always saying that they are saved but when you look they look just like the world, I got saved at 16 and filled with the holyghost and am now 27 and I know God to be a keeper because he has kept me pure and holy. You can dress nice and still be holy without being half naked...the word of God comes to change you completely.

[ktippins26]

I thank God for true holiness with sanctification, because people are always saying that they are saved but when you look they look just like the world, I got saved at 16 and filled with the holyghost and am now 27 and I know God to be a keeper because he has kept me pure and holy. You can dress nice and still be holy without being half naked...the word of God comes to change you completely.

[ktippins26]

I love true holiness preaching because it helps keep me on the straight and narrow, I was saved and filled with the holyghost at 16 and am now 27 and I know that God is a keeper because he has kept me. Some preachers won't preach the truth because they know they will be exposed, I never knew there were so many preachers that are full of perversion...I thank God for true holiness and how he has kept me pure and holy!!!

[Godz1Chozen]

AMEN!!!

[sweetnurse29020]

I get this kind of preaching EVERY Sunday, because this is how my pastor brings it!! People tired of that watered down word and understand that they won't make it with God!

[MidwestBro]

This is a old-school style Holiness preaching!!!!!

[PerfectingHoliness]

Wow this is what I call a sermon!

[YACONISMITH]

i love this..holiness is what i long for

[angel53]

The Lord still has ministers that will stand and preach the gospel. God bless you! Keep standing!

[ikeashiasanders29]

PREACH PREACH CAUSE THATS ALL TRUTH

[drrosson]

OLD SCHOOL PREACHING... Remember when ? Weeping filled the church when the truth came fourth like this in those days.The sweetness of the spirit of God swept ove the church and pulled us in close to Him.We would come weeping and crying out to Him for mercy...Taking it to the feet of Christ and leaving it there...Asking Him to forgive our short comings and sins... This is what we need to hear frome the mouth of the preacher that has come from the closet of prayer. The closets are dusty from lack.

[1straighttalker]

When I was a kid, the pastor preached like this every time. I got saved under preaching like this. The preachers need to get back to it. The young people need to hear it... Preach Brother... Name it... Call it what it is...When this kind of preaching stoped is when the alters were taken out of the church. MANY church don't have alters in them any more. Remmemer when the did? Preachers aren't giving us anything to pray over. We use to pray until we touched God " Prayed through" MY MY MY ...

[mom2dave]

Wow! It's been awhile since I've heard this kind of preaching. Folk 'fraid to talk like this nowadays!

[YACONISMITH]

that is so true..afraid that there congregation and money will leave

[yngpreacha07]

Great Preaching!!! Now this is REAL preaching! More people need to hear sermons like this. So many people are still bound bc their preachers won't preach the unadulterated Word of God but The TRUTH shall make you free indeed!

[eWarren19842008]

Tight but Right! Toe the line. Preach on brother.

[laidbackent]

Good Word..

[unlockingmysteries]

That's my brother in Christ, teaching the truth!

[realladylike]

Jesus!!! Come on now... this man be preachin...

[yaletenor]

Mossboy4 - God bless you sooo much for posting this. I have been struggling with hip hop and rap and whether or not it is okay to use some of this stuff in the church as long as it has christian lyrics. This sermon only confirms what I felt in my spirit. I am only 23 years old and never once did I need hip hop and the world to draw me in...all I needed was the revelation of Jesus Christ and the indwelling of the holy ghost!! And now this is further confirmation. Praise God!! Thank you!

[TruSouljah712]

P.Diddy had said that Rap is music and hip hop is my life, the way I live. Affrika Bambattaa even said that Rap is music and hip hop is a way of life. The music artform of rapping started before the hip hop movement. So when some gospel rappers say that rap and hip hop are the same I think i would beleive the pioneer of hip hop than a holy hip hopper. So how can u subscribe to another way of life if Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. When you come to Christ you're in the kingdom culture.

[mossboy4]

I'm glad GOD showed you the truth! God bless you!

[jagg100]

Apart from the new birth noone is saved. If ever some one professes to repent, believe, or confess before the new birth, he is truly not regenerated because he does not understand that dead men can't hear. Unless God opens the ears and eyes their will be no conversion.

[VinceCharles]

There wasnt yet a HolyGhost baptism when the thief was on the cross nor a baptism in the name of our Lord. The birth of the Church came after all of this.

[Biblethumpa]

Understand, that he had the baptism right with him. The HOLYGHOST hadn't come yet! There was no need. The birth of the church came after this. I agree with u vince.

[jamponyflip]

The thief on the cross only had to believe that Jesus was the true Messiah. The church didn't start until the day of Pentecost. Acts 19 Paul finding certain disciples only knew the baptism of John if they were o.k. in the state they were in Paul would have not re-baptized in the name of the LORD Jesus and layed hands on them to receive the Holy Ghost.

[veronicafoxx2006]

Yes indeed, he preached that sermon. I tell you the truth, Jesus is on his way soon and is doing massive gathering of his sheep. If you notice, the big time lying sin-loving preachers are being exposed and lives are being changed. Homosexually was being pushed down our throat in a big way when VHS appeared on the seen, turning out babies and now down-low in held up high. JESUS COME QUICKLY.

[TCassells]

I can't get knowbody to help me! The Holy Ghost is blowing the trumpet again, I thank Him... the flesh is nasty, it don't want to pray, but wants to play... God knows I pray!Preach it!

[jamie4x4x4x4]

2nd part: The doctrine was rejected and refuted by such eminent church fathers as Tertullian, Cyprian, Clement of Rome, Clement of Alexandria, and others. We now have the old heresy resurrected and propagated by quite a few, known to us as the "Jesus only" teaching. Its a heresy resurected at a Bible conference 100years ago. Just read the Bible please!

[jamie4x4x4x4]

1 0f 2 Comments: This is hardly the place for a "Oneness" debate but anyway. The "One God" heresy originated in the second century A.D., known as the "Noetian heresy." It held that the Father and Christ are identical, that the Father was born of a woman and died on the cross.

[spirituallysound]

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[50dog]

THE WOMENS' HEADS ARE NOT COVERED

[mossboy4]

Oh yes they are, with long pretty hair!

[ChevyDude65]

You got that right mossboy4! And, most of the mothers at my church got store-bought hair! LOL! THEY COVERED!

[mossboy4]

LOL LOL

[sticky793]

Authorised baptism, done by one having the same authority as Peter, James and John, is for the remission of sins, and comes after Faith in Christ and Repentance. One gains membership in to the true Church of Jesus Christ through baptism by immersion for the remission of sins and then will receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands.

[sticky793]

In the book of Acts, Peter preached Jesus to the crowd on the day of pentecost. "They were pricked in their hearts and said to Peter and the other Apostles, Men and Brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost" Acts 2:37-38

[mossboy4]

You said it's foolish to think GOD has a hand, lol, well in Exodus 33:22 GOD tells Moses, "When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my HAND until I have passed by.

[mossboy4]

Where's your scripture? JESUS the Father? The scripture NEVER says it!!!!

[jonzig80]

Hello Sir or Mam, I've read most of your comments as well as the rest. This will probably be my first and last comment. Here are a few scriptures to ponder on when you get a chance: St John 1:1-4,14; 5:43; 8:18-27,54-58; 10:30-38; 14:8-14; I Timothy 3:16

[oklahomaweather1]

oops, I'm sorry. I just noticed I was commenting under my sisters youtube ID. I was typing under biblebeliever365. my bad. lol. But like I was saying, the transfiguration is an AWESOME example of Jesus' dual nature. Also, the Bible NEVER say's "God the Son"...this is because Jesus is NOT God the Son, He is the Son of God. Becareful not to get this backwards, because it changes the whole meaning of Jesus title. Like I said before: One man, three roles. One name, three titles.

[mossboy4]

I never said God the Son! I said Jesus Christ the Son of GOD!!! That is in the bible.!!!!!

[sticky793]

The truth wasn't popular then, and it still isn't now. The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost are three seperate personages. They are one in power, one in purpose but they are seperate beings. Acts 7:55-57

[sticky793]

But he,(Stephen) being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord. Acts 7:55-57.

[oklahomaweather1]

Brother, I'm just saying that you can call God all you want "Father, Son, Holy Ghost, son of man, the great I am, the everlasting Father..." and so on...but all those are just titles for the NAME of our One True God...the name is JESUS CHRIST. God Bless you

[mossboy4]

If JESUS is The Father, The Son & the HOLY GHOST then who was speaking from heaven on the Mt Transfiguration when the BIBLE says, "a voice from heaven says this is my well beloved Son whom I am well pleased hear ye Him." Who was that speaking? Was JESUS talking w/Himself? Of course not! It was the Father talking about JESUS to the men standing on the mountain, JESUS was one of the men standing there!

[jahcal7]

if u believe in the trinity,in love id like 2 share some things with u about this false catholic doctrine.email me jahcal7 @ yahoo

[mossboy4]

i do NOT believe in 3 gods!

[xxmexxyyuyy]

I agree with you was Jesus talking to himself or what or when Steven was being stoned how could he Jesus sitting at the right hand father was he seeing double

[mossboy4]

I never said baptism is not essential for salvation, IT IS! I will say that baptism does not save anyone!!!

[oklahomaweather1]

oh! i understand what yur saying now! lol sorry I misunderstood you! yur saying that in order to be saved you must be baptized since it's part of salvation, BUT, your saying that baptism does not save us, because we're saved by the grace of God. God saves us, but baptism is part of salvation. Right? lol sorry about that! I believe the same...

[lanearbon]

you say that baptism doesn't save everyone heres I peter 3:21

[mossboy4]

Baptism is a must becauase JESUS sid do it! But it alone doesn't SAVE no one! IF you read that verse it specifically states, "NOT THE PUTTING AWAY OF THE FLITH OF THE FLESH" meaning baptism can't cleanse you from sin and the wickedness of the flesh!!! Only the blood of JESUS can SAVE a man from sin, not water. IF...

[SolideoGloriafella]

Mossboy4

You say baptism is a must.

Was the theif on the corss baptised?

"Today you shall be with Me in paradise."

[mossboy4]

The thief on the cross didn't need to be baptised or filled with the Holy Ghost because he neva got down from that cross to live in this wicked world. But for us who intend to walk this earth we must be baptised in the Holy Ghost to live a HOLY life for JESUS CHRIST! That man was on his 'death bed', in otha words! He was not & did not live another day with his feet touching the grounds of this earth. Therefore, folk can't justify not being baptised based on the thief who died hanging on a cross!

[mossboy4]

The thief on the cross didn't need to be baptised or filled with the Holy Ghost because he neva got down from that cross to live in this wicked world. But for us who intend to walk this earth we must be baptised in the Holy Ghost to live a HOLY life for JESUS CHRIST! That man was on his 'death bed', in otha words! He was not & did not live another day with his feet touching the grounds of this earth. Therefore, folk can't justify not being baptised based on the thief who died hanging on a cross!

[brocliffclgi]

i agree with mossboy4

the thief on the cross was only one person who was saved and not filled. he wasnt our example Christ and Apostle Paul are our examples, not all of them but some of the main ones.

[realladylike]

Suggesting that a person who has accepted Christ but hasn't been baptized in the Holy Ghost can't go to heaven means that Apollos would've gone to hell had he died before he got filled w/ the Holy Ghost. The Bible says In Acts 18:24-28 (paraphrasing) that he was ferverent in the spirit & Aquilla & Priscilla showed him the way of God more perfectly. I'm not saying that you don't need the Holy Ghost b/c I'm grateful to be filled I'm just saying you won't go to hell just b/c you're not filled

[mossboy4]

I respectfully disagree with you... "IFs" doesn't matter when it comes to Apollos. He didin't die before being filled with the Holy Ghost!

[menray1]

"Holiness without no man shall SEE God." You can't be holy without the holy ghost. Apollos was an example just like moses, enoch, elijah, etc. You need the holy ghost to make it. If you die without it, thats between you and God. And nobody is going anywhere until judgement day anyway.

[mossboy4]

If the water is more powerful than the blood of JESUS then that means JESUS' death was in vain. But it took the blood of a spotless lamb to redeem man from sin!!!! The tap water of whatever type water they use for baptism can NOT cleanse men from all their sins. Read 1 PET 3:21 carefully!!!

[naylianunn]

He is telling the uncompromised truth and that is needed in the day and time that we live in. People tend to make excuses for their behavior and we will miss heaven by doing this. Deliverance is needed throughout the church. I enjoyed his message. God was using him.

[gospelmaestro]

I've only heard him preach one message where it wasn't about sin...."How long shall I priase Him". He needsd to stick to stuff like that and stop glorifying sin.

[mossboy4]

You can't praise GOD in sin that's why sin is attacked like it is at Holiness churches! We don't glorify sin or satan but when you live in sin that's giving glory to satan. The GOSPEL is the "good news", the good news is JESUS came to SAVE His people from sin!!!

[NoSuchThingAsTrinity]

This man aint even obeying Acts 2:38. He's hoopin and hollering but thats entertainment. He's wearin all them flashy colours and them rings. That looks like a pentecostal pimp to me.

Bro Rich (truthofgoddotcom)

[mossboy4]

True we dont baptize in the name of JESUS! If the blood of JESUS isn't strong enuff to cleanse a filthy soul from sin, you better believe that being batized in water ain't gon' do nothing but make you a wet sinner! If "the blood" can't do it how can water do it?...

[mossboy4]

...Is the remission of sins dependent on repentance and baptism? For we know that Jesus shed His blood for the remission of sins(Matt26:28,Rom3:25,Heb10:1­8). Either men are saved by Jesus Christ, or they are saved by their baptism. The Bible declares several axioms regarding salvation. First, the will of the flesh and the will of man are not involved(John1:13,3:8,Rom9:16)­. Second, the Lord Jesus Christ finished the work of purging our sins all by Himself(John19:30,Heb1:3,10:10­-14)...

[mossboy4]

...third, baptism is the answer to God from a person already saved(1Pet3:21,Acts10:47,Luke7­:29-30). With these axioms in mind and reading the context, we know exactly what Peter was teaching on Pentecost. He had just been asked by men pricked in their hearts as to what they could do to show their faith in Jesus Christ(Acts2:37). These men were obviously already born again, for only regenerate men respond like this(Acts5:33,7:54,Rom3:11,I Cor 1:18)...

[mossboy4]

...Peter told the Jews to repent and show their faith in Jesus Christ for the remission of sins by being buried and raised from water in His name. Baptism was their testimony of confidence in Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins, just as Peter so carefully explains in 1Pet3:21...

[mossboy4]

...Peter declares here baptism is a mere figure, not the reality. Baptism is only a figurative salvation, by showing a picture of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, which truly did save. Baptism does not put away sins - the filth of the flesh! Baptism is the answer of a good conscience, not an act of obedience to get a good conscience!

[jay061276]

THANK GOD FOR TRUTH. It purifies !! We are cleansed by the washing of the word ! Keep preaching the truth MAN OF GOD !!

[rjdet3]

This is truely a man of God!

[cross8888]

this man of god is on daystar on sundays midnight UK time 12.00am

[planetmike]

Holiness is purity.... Its the opposite of sin... God hates sin! Holiness is about staying married to the same person, its about what you do when no one is looking, its about how you live a life that's pleasing to GOD! its about the choices YOU make!!

[nessalovestosing]

And lastly, Dancing or Singing is not meant to preach to the people. That is what the preachers are for. It's only meant to PRAISE and WORSHIP God.

[mossboy4]

HOLY dancing unto to the LORD is praise & worship. "David danced IN THE SPIRIT," says the bible. All this other stuff we see is for entertainment purposes but I say GOD is NOT interested in being entertained nor is HE an entertainer. If you praise & worship more at church than you do at home, that's a problem. We spend more time out of church than we do in church. The life you live is the ultimate PRAISE & WORSHIP!!! If you don't live HOLY you are NOT praising GOD, just dancing in error & sin!

[mossboy4]

I don't care how much a person shouts or dances, if that person ain't living HOLY all he/she is doing is covering up sins! So called "praise dancing" is choreographed entertainment to appeal to the people. JUST LET GOD SHOUT YOU, THE FIRE OF THE HOLY GHOST IS ALL YOU NEED TO DANCE FOR JESUS!

[nessalovestosing]

Okay Moss... Everything that I have already said and the things that I will say now is and was never meant to be offensive... So please don't take it that way. i agree that our lifestyle is the ultimate praise & worship. (it may not be the kind of praise u render unto him in closed doors or at home, but we should be glorifying him at all times.) Also, I feel that The whole arguement about praise dancing being entertainment should not come from somone who Whoops and Hollers in the pulpit...

[mossboy4]

If a person hoops for entertainment purposes they are just as guilty as praise dancers or any other form of entertainment. The power of the Holy Ghost, when it comes upon someone can NOT be rehearsed or choreographed! It'll make you do what you didn't plan to do!

[nessalovestosing]

Nicely said! :)

[crazy650c]

Wrong. 1Co:14:32: And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. That means the prophets are in control of their actions. Noting wrong with emotion, but it doesn't replace GOOD preaching.

[nessalovestosing]

and is shouldnt come from anyone who simply sits under that ministry. The loud deep breaths at the end of every sentence and the 'come on somebodys' and the 'somebody say amens' has become so stereotypical of penecostal churches these days. Now. Someone can tell you that that is merely 'entertainment' and how would you respond? I am not judging you because I sit under these type of ministries myself. And I am also called to preach. And may someday say the same things...

[nessalovestosing]

my point of bringing this to your attention is to let you know that there is a way to do everything in decency and in order. it is so easy to shun away things of the unfamiliar that we lose focus on the real matter. You may be quoting a scripture out of the Bible verbatim but youre screaming and shouting with it. A person may say its not of God because they are paying too much attention on how it is being said rather than what is being said. That's all I'm trying to say. God Bless.

[mossboy4]

I've had several conversations w/many folk about "hooping". I'm against "hooping", it's entertainment in my opinoin. I feel this way 'cause Paul says, we speak with great PLAINESS!" In other words, any man/woman of GOD should want the people to have a clear understanding of the Word of God when all the preahing is done! I'M AGAINST ALL ENTERTAINMENT IN THE CHURCH! I agree with you very much so!

[mossboy4]

However, I understand that the Spirit of GOD can get upon the preacher and take over the preacher. When this happens the preacher WILL feel the ANOINTING, leading him/her to preach with more authority maybe even "hooping". However, when ANY preacher seeks glory from the people by "hooping" out of fleshly desires then I call that nonsense, phony & folly! But I will not say that all "hooping" is wrong but if it's to entertain it is WRONG, and that I am against!

[nobullboy]

So the anointing will lead one to hoop? Why does the anointing only do that from the African-American preacher? Since there is no race in the Spirit, and there is unified culture, why doesn't the Holy Spirit lead the Chinese pastor to come all down from the pulpit and have the people shout AMEN with him? When Jesus preached, people sat and listened. You can't listen if you're hollering back at the person.

[nessalovestosing]

THere is no difference. I do believe that the attire that some wear are unacceptable. But we just have to pray for them and ask God to show them what to wear. It's not like a preacher has never said anything wrong before. But when he finds out what is right, he goes back and corrects himself and continues to go forth in God.

[nessalovestosing]

Because the Bible says to "Study to show thyself approved". And when a choir sings, they go to choir rehearsals... And the singing is to uplift the name of Jesus. And when Dance ministries go forth... They rehearse as well.

[nessalovestosing]

And a long as it is done to Glorify God, it should be acceptable. When God gives a Preacher a word, he studies it. He doesn't just read his notes once. But he rehearses it and makes sure that He knows what he is talking about before he gets up there.

[nessalovestosing]

I've been to churches that has programs... However, the services are still led by the Spirit and sometimes we're in service shouting and praising God until He releases us.... Also... about the praise dance ministries... I will not say that dancing is a "gift" because it does not say that in the bible... However, it is a way to praise God.

[Wormanatti]

This guy be saying something. Can we get clearer videos. You won't see this on TBN or many of the other garbage apostate media outlets.

[Goodforyouman]

You better preach! God is good! I am so glad to hear a man that preaches against sin! I feel like shouting!

[soonerira]

David danced before the Lord with all his might. Michael mocked him because she didn't the Lord David was dancing before. He told her "it was before the Lord." It wasn't about her or those standing around looking, it was before the LORD!

He's the center of my worship and sometimes I dance before the Lord with all my might!

[soonerira]

i believe you I'd like to visit some time. True Holiness is the only thing God has or will bless.

The spiritual and the sensual. Those that get in the music and those that truly get lost in His presence. It's not about what appeals to my senses but what pleases Him.

[soonerira]

These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

(Jude 1:19)

A lot of "worship" today is created and choreographed to appeal to the natural senses.

[mossboy4]

I agree but HOLINESS doesn't appeal to nobody but them that LOVE the LORD! If you love truth then you love HOLINESS! FG doesn't preach to your FLESH! This sermon is based on JUDE 1:19 and others. But there's no choreography in this chucrh, if there was hipocrisy at FGHT I would've left a long time ago!

[KRG5151]

What does Holiness mean to you? I hear one thing, but I see another! Holiness when it's on the inside, shows up on the outside! Where is the fruit of the spirit According to I& II Timothy?

[voiyce]

P.S. don't diss praise dance ministries cos we need to praise the Lord, everyday in everything that we do and it is written in God's word that God is 'glorious in holiness and fearful in praises'. Also God is dwells in the praises of His people and where the Spirit of God is there is liberty, there is joy. We need to praise Him through the good and the bad because we know that all things work together for good for those who love the Lord.

[mossboy4]

Ain't nothing wrong with dancing FOR THE LORD!!! Now when folk start rehearsing dance moves that cause you to throw your legs over your head don't tell me GOD did that. Even when you shout, that's gotta be HOLY and GOD ain't shouting your legs over your head so people can see the crack of ur behind! That ain't HOLY, that wasn't GOD! There's a difference between choreographing and when the HOLY GHOST shouts you!! Bible says, "dance in the spirit" not cause you rehearsed!

[mossboy4]

Bible says, "faith comes by HEARING the Word of God"! Ok, so if faith comes by HEARING then ultimately I need someone to minister to me through preaching - the proclaiming of the Gospel. I need to HEAR the WORD going forth! "Praise dancing" can't minister to no one thats entertainmen! The purpose of MINISTRY is to build GOD's kingdom by the SAVING OF SOULS thats it nothing more nothing less! If anyone has been SAVED by watching praise dancers please holla me!

[voiyce]

When a praise and worship team practice and rehearse for the songs they will sing to minister at a Sunday service are they not ministring to people? It is the same with rehearsing dance moves to minister to people. Adiitionally I will testify to the fact that I have seen people saved because of dance ministries. Now I don't know what events you went to that you were seeing people's behinds but you need to get to a place where God's word is being ministered

[voiyce]

Part 1 of 2

The word of God does not only come from speaking. The word of God also comes from music. That's what the entire book of Psalms is. Those are all lyrics to songs that David and his contemporaries wrote. As a result if people are dancing to the Lord whilst this music is playing, it can be used to drive home a message; used as an aid to make the message stick in people's mind.

[mossboy4]

Music is good thats why GOD anoints people to sing unto HIM! The Bible says, "SING UNTO THE LORD A NEW SONG"!! The Bibles also states, "how can they hear without a PREACHER"!! He didn't say nothing about choreography! Dancing/shouting is a personal thing, its not meant to minister to someone else! That's personal, between the person and GOD!!

[voiyce]

Hope you don't mind that I tend to write ilke major essays, but here we go again :)

Part 1 of 6

I don't believe that dancing is a personal thing. God has given people gifts to be shared within His kingdom for ministration and evangelism. So what would you say to the person who isn't good with words but has the gift of dancing to touch people's hearts? Where their passion for God is reflected in their dancing?

[voiyce]

Part 2 of 6

Just because the bible does not use 'choreography' doesn't mean people should not group together to dance and praise Him. I go back to my point of worship (choir) practice before a church service. Nowhere in the bible does it say the choir should practice their harmonies before coming into the presence of God.

[mossboy4]

And the BIBLE talks about choirs and singing!!!! Did you read that part?!

[voiyce]

Part 3 of 6

Nonetheless it is what the church does because we want to give God our best and help lead the congregation into the presence of God. The same applies when people as a group want to dance to the Lord, we need to practice our gifts so that when we come to God we can give Him our best.

[mossboy4]

Ministry is for the building of GOD's kingdom thru the SAVING OF SOULS! Show me one scripture where GOD anointed/gifted someone to dance folk into HEAVEN! You can sing and preach someone under conviction but you can't dance em in!!!

[KRG5151]

Mossboy, We've had our disagreements, but I'm with YOU here! As the world goes, so goes the "Church" this world is so full of programs, and things to intice people, if you don't stay in Gods Holy Word, you get caught up in that Junk!

[voiyce]

part 4 of 6

Psalm 149: 2-4

Let Israel rejoice in their Maker; let the people of Zion be glad in their King. Let them praise his name with DANCING and make music to him with tambourine and harp. For the LORD takes delight in his people; He crowns the humble with salvation.

[mossboy4]

Ain't nothing wrong w/ dancing FOR THE LORD!!! When GOD shouts a person so be it! But don't turn church into an entertainment center! Church is sacred, if GOD didn't commission "praise dancers" to go out and SAVE folk in the BIBLE then HE AIN"T doing it now!! You got lil girls dancing in skin tight clothes but folk wanna say thats HOLY, GOD FORBID!

[KRG5151]

Amen! But again, Holiness is in your dress! It's in your talk, it's in your actions! Without Holiness, No MAN SHALL SEE GOD!

[voiyce]

Part 2 of 2

At the end of the day as long as these things are being done for the glory of God and the furtherence of His word in and outside His kingdom I believe that it is good

[mossboy4]

Thats the problem, it's not about me or no one else! It's not about what we THINK! Everything we do must be consulted w/ GOD before we do what we want but since that's not how we operate we do things based on what we feel is ok with GOD! But w/out GOD's consent it won't work!

[nobullboy]

So what about people who are deaf and unable to hear? They need any visual stimulation that they can get in order to connect with the text. Also, the only person to whom you consistently refer as dancing is David. If dancing is so important to the Lord, then please show me some other people in the Word who danced BESIDES David!

[babekae]

Are you baptist

[mossboy4]

HOLINESS!

[gospelmaestro]

Thank you for being sane

[voiyce]

PART 8 OF 12

Ephesians 2: 8-10

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

[voiyce]

PART 7 OF 12

Where you hear of preachers leading God's people astray and false ministries my friend pray for the pastors and the people in those churches that God's light will shine through the darkness so that they may know the truth. Remember that God commands holiness but it is only through His amazing grace that we can even dream of walking in that commandment. so pray for yourself and others that God will give the body of Christ the grace that we need to walk in His holiness.

[voiyce]

PART 6 OF 12

We should never forget that as God changes us to become more like Him though the process may be painful and hard, God will take us through. Gold has to go through the fire for it to become pure. This period is a time of God's grace where He gives a chance to become more holy.

[voiyce]

PART 5 OF 12

Throughout the bible God emphasizes that there are two groups of people, those for Him and against Him. As a result not everyone with a mic in their hand and a bunch of people listening to them is called of God. That is why God has said we should test every spirit to ensure that it is from God.

[voiyce]

PART 4 OF 12

John 3:16-17 (see till vs 21)

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

[voiyce]

PART 3 OF 12

Ppl are called by God to concentrate on different areas and facets of God, but the wholeness of God should never be ignored which is why you see many diff churches working together. God is a God that is in perfect balance. He is slow in anger and abounding in love which means that He will eventually get angry but not without giving us a chance to repent (Deut 28). result the word of the Lord is not only judgment but LOVE. Jesus Himself encompasses God's love for us.

[voiyce]

PART 2 OF 12

we are all parts of the one body of Christ so as we live a life dedicated to Christ and to the work of God we all have different functions and parts to play to ensure the whole body of Christ functions well. The whole body is not made up of the mouth which does all the talking, nor only of eyes that see where it is the body needs to be, not only of legs to take the body where it needs to be, but many different parts.

[voiyce]

PART 1 OF 12

I think what you've said in your description is quite absolute and does not really take into account the whole picture.