@TheRealAngusturtle No. A trust was set up for Frances that was given to her when she turned 18. What Courtney did with the money from the sale of the merchandise is anybody's guess.
@JimiHendrixLuver2 Um. No. Kurt didn't have time to change his will before he died... He meant to remove Courtney from his will but didn't which is why Courtney was able to sell a portion of the NIRVANA catalog. She still owns most of NIRVANA.
@honeyroyaltea Even though I think it's disrespectful that you call me naive and I usually just delete those kinds of comments, I'm going to respond. I used the word "stealing" because the money did not belong to Courtney. She had access to the account, making it easy for her to do what she wanted with the money.
And I'm not naive. I've actually worked at a bank.l
I'm just going to throw this out their. If you have seen Frances Bean Cobain lately, you'll see that she isn't a crazy party girl. I think the reason is because shes already seen the life and doesn't want to be like that. She probaly wouldn't even want the money. She just wants to be 60 and wear hats. Don't believe me? Just search her up on Youtube
It would be funny if Frances just gets all the money and Courtney ends up a hobo on the streets. Ha Ha:] It's makes sense! Frances is blood related to the guy for crying out loud! all the money nirvana makes should go to her. Not Courtney.
As well as this, I always found it odd that Courtney said Frances will inherit a guitar, a sweater, and the rights to Smells like Team Spirit. Doesn't seem like a lot for the only child of Kurt Cobain.
This is an incorrect statement. Tom only makes a little money from selling Case Manual Kits and uses that money to offset his expenses for working the Cobain Case (since you can also download the Manual for free). He does radio and TV for free. He's never sold his story to any magazines. So no. This is not a moneymaking machine for Tom Grant.
And perhaps, no really, someone's shared Mr. Grant's financial information before, even though that's illegal.
Don't you think if there were anything on Grant, Love's people would be screaming it in the headlines? He is accusing CL of conspiring to kill her husband, after all.
People have checked into Tom's background before allowing him on their programs. His reputation is impeccable.
You are right. Kurt left a large amount of money to Frances. About 10 years ago Coutney had blew all of it and nearly bankrupted Kurts estate, in order to keep up her lifestyle Courtney then sold one fourth of Kurts music catalog for 50 milliondollars. She is a greedy media whore and has since spent all of the 50 million which is where wwe are at today, Frances getting a restraining order against Courtney. Now Kurts mom is Frances' legal guardian.
It doesn't matter what you think Courtney is. She's stealing from her daughter. Don't you care about Frances? A Trustee is obliged to hold property of the intended individuals, not spend it. Courtney has said the trust was worth $30-40 million. And now she's saying there's only $1.2 million??
Regardless of what you think of her, she's broken the law by accessing the funds in Frances's trust.
Was this trust account for Francis established when Kurt was alive or after he died (otherwise known as a Testamentary Trust granted through a will and is payable-on-death)?
If Courtney has the ability to modify and draw from that trust, It may be possible that it was established by Courtney herself as a revocable trust.
In that case, GoddessFourWinds, She isn't breaking the law. She has every right to modify the trust.
I'm just saying, I'm not trying to defend Courtney in any way. She's a B!
what led you to believe it was 40 mill. i heard she just sold off a portion of publishing for 16 mill. i cant imagine he had that kind of money before he died.
Courtney has said the trust is worth $30-40 million. That's always been the "reported" figure.
And no. Courtney sold 25% of her rights to NIRVANA for $50 million. People don't realize just had much Kurt was worth...other than Courtney. Kurt owned 98% of NIRVANA before he died. Courtney owns that now.
thats not possible unless krist and dave sold their shares to her - there are also different parts of music sales. you have the recording side and the publishing side. then you have the royalties for performance only. there is no way courtney owns 98% - check again. i tried looking it up but i cant see it . i found a reference where it talks about *her share* of nirvana. but it is most certainly not 98.
ive seen the links you sent and according to the journalists there (i say that cautiously because i know what journalists can do) you are RIGHT! which is utterly gobsmacking. im trying to figure out a scenario where band members give up the rights to their songs. although kurt wrote the songs, i bet he didnt write the bass and drum parts. just a guess tho. educated one :)
I thought all the money sold from nirvana merch now went to frances it used to go to courtney but now its all frances's
TheRealAngusturtle 6 months ago
@TheRealAngusturtle No. A trust was set up for Frances that was given to her when she turned 18. What Courtney did with the money from the sale of the merchandise is anybody's guess.
GoddessFourWinds 6 months ago
Kurt had a will.he put Vourtney off the will tho.most of it(almosy all of it) went to frances
JimiHendrixLuver2 6 months ago
@JimiHendrixLuver2 Um. No. Kurt didn't have time to change his will before he died... He meant to remove Courtney from his will but didn't which is why Courtney was able to sell a portion of the NIRVANA catalog. She still owns most of NIRVANA.
GoddessFourWinds 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
LOL all the coments talking about stuff....
I just came here to see their faces :)
mrguycrap 6 months ago
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mrguycrap 6 months ago
Try about $200 million.
faroutadventures 1 year ago
its almost impossible 2 steal from trust funds and do u trust everything u read especially tmz? ha u really r navie
honeyroyaltea 1 year ago
@honeyroyaltea Even though I think it's disrespectful that you call me naive and I usually just delete those kinds of comments, I'm going to respond. I used the word "stealing" because the money did not belong to Courtney. She had access to the account, making it easy for her to do what she wanted with the money.
And I'm not naive. I've actually worked at a bank.l
GoddessFourWinds 1 year ago
@honeyroyaltea kurt cobain dident have a will
randomnoone 10 months ago
First you kill your husbend now your stealing money from your own daughter
CCRockit 1 year ago
Man Courtney looks bad.
Bitch !
KurtWasMurdered941 1 year ago
I'm just going to throw this out their. If you have seen Frances Bean Cobain lately, you'll see that she isn't a crazy party girl. I think the reason is because shes already seen the life and doesn't want to be like that. She probaly wouldn't even want the money. She just wants to be 60 and wear hats. Don't believe me? Just search her up on Youtube
InACoffin 2 years ago
Regardless of whether she "wants" the money or not is beside the point. She's due multi-millions because of her dad.
I think Frannie's just a young girl living a young girl's life (even if she's doing a lot of it in the limelight). I'm not judging her in any way.
It's that Courtney had access to the money and she blew it. That's the part that irks me.
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
kurt never even made 40mill.
get this trash outta here
ValiumCherryWine 2 years ago
Here's the proof: watch?v=oNdZeT-PbvY
I don't say anything about this stuff unless I can back it up...
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
hi tom is helping me make that video i posted as response better it should be up either today or tommorrow
cobainreed 2 years ago
Thanks, Becky. Tell him I say Hello, please, and I look forward to seeing it. :)
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
GREAT VIDEO
o0oPierceDalyo0o 2 years ago
It would be funny if Frances just gets all the money and Courtney ends up a hobo on the streets. Ha Ha:] It's makes sense! Frances is blood related to the guy for crying out loud! all the money nirvana makes should go to her. Not Courtney.
kurtcobainfan4life 2 years ago
please everyone check out the video responce i posted to this video u will see the truth that GoddessFourWinds knows what she is talking about
cobainreed 2 years ago
OMG I am outraged !!!! This is truly insane ! When will justice wake up !?! jeez !
crazyzu1 2 years ago
As well as this, I always found it odd that Courtney said Frances will inherit a guitar, a sweater, and the rights to Smells like Team Spirit. Doesn't seem like a lot for the only child of Kurt Cobain.
razorbak42O 2 years ago
Can you even imagine that?
And SLTS was sold by CL;
I don't know how she gets away with it.
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
Moneymaking machine for Tom Grant too
soniccage 2 years ago
This is an incorrect statement. Tom only makes a little money from selling Case Manual Kits and uses that money to offset his expenses for working the Cobain Case (since you can also download the Manual for free). He does radio and TV for free. He's never sold his story to any magazines. So no. This is not a moneymaking machine for Tom Grant.
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
Anyone can say that... Perhaps you don't know what is going on with Mr Grant or Miss Love
soniccage 2 years ago
And perhaps, no really, someone's shared Mr. Grant's financial information before, even though that's illegal.
Don't you think if there were anything on Grant, Love's people would be screaming it in the headlines? He is accusing CL of conspiring to kill her husband, after all.
People have checked into Tom's background before allowing him on their programs. His reputation is impeccable.
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
@GoddessFourWinds
You are right. Kurt left a large amount of money to Frances. About 10 years ago Coutney had blew all of it and nearly bankrupted Kurts estate, in order to keep up her lifestyle Courtney then sold one fourth of Kurts music catalog for 50 milliondollars. She is a greedy media whore and has since spent all of the 50 million which is where wwe are at today, Frances getting a restraining order against Courtney. Now Kurts mom is Frances' legal guardian.
hydrocodone1 2 years ago 9
@hydrocodone1 Frances is now entitled tto 37% of the Nirvana estate.
faroutadventures 1 year ago
@GoddessFourWinds Does he get any money from the 2 books about the murder theory though?
dubified89 1 year ago
@dubified89 Nope. :)
GoddessFourWinds 1 year ago
@soniccage yea... thats definitly an uneducated response. Check your facts
razorbak42O 2 years ago
It's obvious Courtney doesn't care about her daughter. What kind of a person steals from their children?
judyleasugar97 2 years ago
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Courtney is GOD. Get a life, haters.
taraniso 2 years ago
It doesn't matter what you think Courtney is. She's stealing from her daughter. Don't you care about Frances? A Trustee is obliged to hold property of the intended individuals, not spend it. Courtney has said the trust was worth $30-40 million. And now she's saying there's only $1.2 million??
Regardless of what you think of her, she's broken the law by accessing the funds in Frances's trust.
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
Was this trust account for Francis established when Kurt was alive or after he died (otherwise known as a Testamentary Trust granted through a will and is payable-on-death)?
If Courtney has the ability to modify and draw from that trust, It may be possible that it was established by Courtney herself as a revocable trust.
In that case, GoddessFourWinds, She isn't breaking the law. She has every right to modify the trust.
I'm just saying, I'm not trying to defend Courtney in any way. She's a B!
ScentlessApprentice7 2 years ago
No. The Trust fund was set up by Kurt. Courtney is only trustee until Frances is 18. She does not have the power to burn through that money.
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
what led you to believe it was 40 mill. i heard she just sold off a portion of publishing for 16 mill. i cant imagine he had that kind of money before he died.
meatymouldia 2 years ago
Courtney has said the trust is worth $30-40 million. That's always been the "reported" figure.
And no. Courtney sold 25% of her rights to NIRVANA for $50 million. People don't realize just had much Kurt was worth...other than Courtney. Kurt owned 98% of NIRVANA before he died. Courtney owns that now.
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
how can kurt possibly own 98% if there were two other writers involved ? this thing just sounds like conjecture. theres no way of knowing really.
meatymouldia 2 years ago
That is a fact. Kurt went to Dave and Krist demanding more shares for himself since he was writer/guitar player/creator, blah blah.
You can check it out for yourself.
Kurt even said that Courtney had nothing to do with that decision, although I highly doubt that.
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
thats not possible unless krist and dave sold their shares to her - there are also different parts of music sales. you have the recording side and the publishing side. then you have the royalties for performance only. there is no way courtney owns 98% - check again. i tried looking it up but i cant see it . i found a reference where it talks about *her share* of nirvana. but it is most certainly not 98.
meatymouldia 2 years ago
They didn't sell their shares to Courtney. That deal was made when Kurt was still alive.
I'll put a link in a message to you, since I can't post it here.
But yes, that info is correct.
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
ive seen the links you sent and according to the journalists there (i say that cautiously because i know what journalists can do) you are RIGHT! which is utterly gobsmacking. im trying to figure out a scenario where band members give up the rights to their songs. although kurt wrote the songs, i bet he didnt write the bass and drum parts. just a guess tho. educated one :)
meatymouldia 2 years ago
@meatymouldia Frances now has 37% of Nirvana royalties. Who knows how much Courtney has.
faroutadventures 1 year ago
yeah what i meant was i cant imagine he had 40 mill in the bank when he died. but mebbe.
meatymouldia 2 years ago
Courtney's claimed as much as $69 and $72 million. I thought I'd heard $40...
GoddessFourWinds 2 years ago
She needs coke money.
hearder2 2 years ago 5
@hearder2 And another fucking brain.
RomeoYouMust 11 months ago
Hell yeah give Frannie her money!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kalawend 2 years ago 2