I don't know what religion has to do with this. How about instead we just let people have their beliefs (or disbeliefs) and not try and change it. We can't get rid of religion or atheism so how about we try coexistence?
before i write a word (excuse me, cause my bad english)
i'll think "RPenta" isn't wrong, it's a great version, the only version i've ever heard was from Ronnie Drew, from the Dubliners, .... and i loved (and still love) that Version, ... but that here is a great Version, too
Killing me softly ...Its now happening in Afghanistan... I wonder if it is really worth it .... great lads and I feel for their familes. At 71 I have seen a bit of life but never this side. Graham Melb Aus
somoene once told me there would be no peace whilst 2 humans were left on the earth but if the last man standing was scottish, he'd just fall out with himself. Made me smile and I hope it does for you too. Just remember it's often politicians in bunkers who send the troops to fight their squabbles. Oh for a bottle to share between nations and a night of song and laughter in the soul. Great recording, thanks for posting.
I have been an Australian Joan Baez fan for years but have not heard this....thanks. I somehow think of this song every Anzac Day as the ranks of the marchers thin out and we still lose brave soldiers fighting wars started under false pretences
does anyone recall a thing called the crusades?...and yet we would never turn to our Christian brother and think him guilty 'of the sins of the father'
As John Cleese said, in Fawlty Towers, "Don't mention the Var". Are we not at Peace now? So why discuss war? War is Hell, Peace is Now. Spend your time Living, not raking over the coals. Or maybe you really hanker after a re-run? Look at yourselves and decide who the Warmongers are. "I did, but I Think I got away with it".
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Don't blame the warriors, blame the wealthy fat cats that became richer off the blood of the young. Blame Aristorical arrogance.With regards to America and the blood your politicians have stolen from this generation. Why are you in Iraq, Why are you in Afghanistan. Bin Laden was in Pakistan.Bush wanted revenge on Saddam, nothing to do with 911. Bin Laden was supposed to be in Afghanistan
Let us have a good clean war where the trenches are manned by the elderly heoes and Politicians, mans inhumanity to man. I too cannot forgive the Nazis or ffor that matter the German race. Them and the Japanese should have been removed from the face of the earth. No one can tell me that the German population did not know what Hitler was doing in their name. The creulty of the Japanese soldiers to the non combatants in Asia shows to me that the average Jap was no better than their emperor
@candicesdad1 - Can you hold the atrocities of the grandparents against kids born 10 years ago? What about those of German or Japanese descent, born and raised in allied countries, who worked as soldiers, spies and translators? You can't tar everyone with the same brush. Give your rage to the people who committed the crimes, but leave the children and grandchildren of those involved out of it.
@verticalsmurf Yes we can, The atrocities committed by the Japanese and Germans were beyond any realm of humanity.. I have used this particulat thread to raise these points as Joan Baez was a supporter of PoloPot and supported Jane Fonda in castigating the Vets that returned from Vietnam. The gravemarkers for the fallen not only mark a soldiers grave but are a marker for a son, husband ,father or grandchild. The cure for cancer could be lying in Flanders Field.
@candicesdad1 - Are you saying that the bloke I sit next to at work (2nd generation Aussie with Japanese heritage) should be killed just because some people of his race were nut-job sadistic war mongers? I don't know his background, for all I know his grandparents spent the whole war planting rice.
@verticalsmurf I never said that at all. But as you said you don't know what his family background was. They could have easily being troops who beheaded Australian Prisoners of War.They could have been people who organised the bayoneting of children in Korea. They could also have been the guards of Changi and the forced railway construction that killed thousands of POWs.or maybe back home planting rice
@candicesdad1 - yes, you did 'I too cannot forgive the Nazis or ffor that matter the German race. Them and the Japanese should have been removed from the face of the earth.'
Your second point - Maybe his Grandfather was the one who killed my Grandfathers Brother. Maybe his Grandfather did work at Changi. Maybe one of the men my Grandfather shot was related to him. Who knows? We were both born after WW2, why should either of us carry the hatred of past conflicts?
@verticalsmurf i love your comment bec it is so apropos to my situation as a native american...why dredge up stuff that happened so long ago, right?...yet ppl are always asking me how i feel...(sometimes i pretend i know nothing "bec i'm mexican or polynesian") ... i'm open to other suggestions for come-backs as i'm so tired of the question
@TheHosteenez - Just tell them you feel a bit off, but it's probably allergies. Or tell them that your finger feels really sore because of a paper cut. Or you feel really annoyed at a character twist on that (insert your favourite TV show) episode last night. Or that you are uncomfortable because your pants are riding up your crack but you can't politely dislodge them in public. Have fun with them! Say anything that will force them to see you as a person and not as a product of history.
@candicesdad1 I believe you greatly underestimate the pervasiveness of human ignorance, as well as the powers that propaganda can hold. Would you blame a child for listening to their mother? Would you be able to tell me the political history of Iran and what it's government did to their people? The fact of the matter is that there is no such thing as a "good clean war" because blood would stain the hands of any who fought, and yet without soilders what you now call a war could well be a massacre
@phoenix0192 I probably could tell you the history of Persia and the change to the Shah and the silly zealot in power now. I agree that there is no such thing as a clean war and soldiers are necessary whilst we have religious zealots and empire building fools supported by sheep prepared to kill their fellow man.The price is too high, our precious young. killed. wounded, maimed and driven insane for a faction designed to start after the world ends. The dead will rise on the last day, Bible, Koran
@candicesdad1 The bible and the Koiran have caused more death and destruction than any other reaosn in history. If we could get rid of religion the World would be a better place and perhaps peace could break out.
@willymaccy I agree with you, fanatics are dead set on demanding how we live after we die by killing millions during this life time. John Lennon said "imagine no religion to live or die for". The question of how "god" can be on both sides of a war really is strange to me. Koran or Bible. neither make any sense
@willymaccy They got rid of religion in the Soviet Union. How many died : 60 million ? More. Same in Mao's China. 70 million dead. Killed or starved. Yeah, sure, better without religion so they can have "peace" to torture, imprison, oppress, censor, starve and SLAUGHTER !
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The one and only time I have heard this live was in about 1982 in NYC at Danny Boys...before it closed...performed live by Fiona Malloy...seems it was also her birthday...happened to be surfing vids and ran across this...thank you...
The pic at 3:15 always makes me imagine how horrible that war must have been. The poor soldier in the foreground has obviously gone mad. You have to wonder how many millions of lives have been senselessly ruined by war. This song drives that point home very well. Hard not to shed tears for those who fought.
Had my Aunt balls she'd be my UNCLE. Are you f**king stupid???? The yanks had NO more atomic weapons and couldn't make them any more powerful - period.... Japs were aggressors, as was Germany . Poms dragged their colonies into wars that had F -ALL to do with them. Bugger Japan, they got what they desrved.....Shame the same didn't happen to Germany
I've never had to face the test and am too old to be conscripted now, but I don't want to live in a world where nothing is worth fighting for. God Bless the men and women with the courage to have the fight.
rodneys0909, you might want to read something or look up something about the first world war... How come you condemn the Pommies and the ermans but not the French? WW1 was a war between Germany, FRANCE, Russia, Austria-Hungary, the "Pommies" actually joined a day later, after Belgium was invaded by Germany. After France and Germany declared war.
A song for Aussies.... RIP Aussies , Kiwis ,Turks & French . Bugger the Pommies & Germans.... It was their war- we got dragged into. My Great Grandfather & Great Uncle both fought in this war to end all wars...... Who will stand up against warmongers when we are gone? I will instill in my children a pride for our country and a distrust of warmongers. Japan should thank their Deities that the Atomics bombs weren't bigger- God knows they deserved all they got... Why the pity for war mongerers?
Had those A-Bombs been bigger you would have been an irradiated mutant. you think the Japanese soldiers knew any better than the Anzac Diggers? or the US - GI, soldier follow orders, the orders of their Command, my grandfather faced horrors at the hand of the Japanese, because the Australian Command moved his Unit from the Middle East to S-East Asia, without Greens, they were fighting Jungle warfare in Desert Kahki's and still he would say never hate the Japanese, they were just following orders
@rodneys0909 Re the "this song is for Aussies - bugger the Pommies" comment. You do know that this song was written by a Brit. Eric Bogle was born and brought up in the Scottish Borders. He was an adult of about 25 years when he went to Australia and had hardly been there long enough to ware out a few sets of guitar strings when he wrote the song.
the lyrics r wrong. eg should be,,To hump tent and pegs, a man needs both legs ( humping meaning to carry) also there r other mistakes but if u check the Eric Bogle (writer) website u will find them. The mistakes deter from the ozzie speak.
having just discovered this song, this is certainly in keeping with her stance against wars. The most poignant songs are those about the survivors with horrendous injuries. I had two Great-Uncles who fought in WWI. one of them was on disablity because he was one of the thousands of men who had been gassed and he had weak eyes that had bleached to just a pale faint blue. We need to find ways to avert wars like this song, where the best any of the men could expect was coming out alive but maimed.
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Joan, you have a beutiful voice, but you have no right to sing THIS song.
You are American, my grandad was shot and wounded twice in Suvla Bay, why do you climb on the back of trageties like this, f*cking oppurtnist is what you are.
@dobella No she's a singer singing a beautiful tragic song. I play this sometimes, and I'm no Aussie. Get a grip, whoever sings this is honouring the Anzac.
@dobella I'm an Aussie and am pleased to hear Joan Baez sing this song. It is idiotic, blind patriotism like yours that feeds wars. Joan is no more "climb[ing] on the back of tragedies like this" than is Eric Bogle who wrote the song. Joan also isn't a "f*cking oppurtnist [sic]" (I assume you mean opportunist). She spent many, many years actively fighting for peace and human rights: going to gaol for it and putting her life on the line. You, dobella, are an embarrassment to Australians.
In 1934 Atatürk wrote a tribute to the ANZACs killed at Gallipoli:
"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. ... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well."
@jrwjrw88 I guess Ataturk's summed up the attitude of most Australians and, we believe,Turkish peoples. "May God forbid that we should ever find ourselves once again opposed as we were in those dreadful months of 1915".
I often wonder which stirs me more, The Band Played...., sung by liam Clancy, or The Green Fields...., sung by Finbar Fury or The Corries. Also chech out "Last night I had the strangest dream" done by the Corries.
I've worked in many African wars and am a Scottish person living in Australia...am about to check out Eric Bogle.
Eric Bogle is the forgotten hero where this song is concerned.... The Pogues (great band) covered this in the finest way possible and The Fureys made Green Fields their own and a great job they made... But remember the story teller of these songs... the great Mr Bogle... Take a listen to 'What Kind of man is he' another fact based song by Eric and well worth a listen..... G'day!!
On this day, 'Rememberance Sunday', let us with God on our side(!) not forget that every time one of our soldiers, sailors or airmen takes a life then somewhere in the world a mother weeps, a child cries or a wife mourns!
Whatever the colour or nationality, in death, they too are mourned by their loved-ones . we should remember them too!.....
Today is america's veterens day, I do thank our soldiers. If the politicians and the other mis-orchestraitors were from those that delivered life into the world - just maybe there would be fewer conflicts because life is held in the regard it should be. and not squandered so carelessly. I'll be in the stands with my pom-poms when justice is dished out.
Check out Eric Bogle, the man who wrote the song. a Scotsman who moved to Australia in 1969, he also wrote the Green fields of France which he called No Mans Land so I guess thats the proper name for the song. Credit where credits due.
From Ataturk: Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well.
@mckqed - Not my words, those are the words of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.
I think his words are poignant. In war it is often necessary to kill an enemy, but it takes something else to recognise that that enemy was still someone's son, that there is a grieving family left suffering, and to offer comfort.
It's because of Ataturk that Australia has a good relationship with Turkey, and its with thanks to him that we can have our ANZAC day rememberances on the shore that we once invaded.
Human nature is such a vexed thing. I am so glad Atatürk was able to say this. Perhaps one day the Turks and the Armenians can find a similar point of reconciliation.
@lordchickenhawk - I agree, they are all heroes, The turks were protecting their homeland and we were invading on orders. I really like Ataturks sentiments, to me they speak of respecting the fallen, and that although we may have different religions, we all have mothers and we are all the same in death.
@verticalsmurf What a lot of rubbish! A War definately doesn't produce "heros", only useless deaths. And those who participate are not free of fault . As a responsible mother I would never agree to sending my son to a war!
@KaisaLisa - But you are living in now. 90 years ago, it was expected that young men went to war. Those that didn't were given white feathers as a sign of cowardice. We get it now, if anyone I know was to go to war I'd do anything I could to stop them. My Poppy Jack and his brother Bob served, Bob died, and Poppy Jack saw it, they are both heroes to me. I don't see their experiences as rubbish. What we know now shouldn't stop us from remembering and respecting what those before us did.
@verticalsmurf True and there were thousands of objectors in Britain (and I suppose in Oz) and it probably wouldn't be so bad if it was done for religious reasons as one could maybe take a jail sentence if your family and friends were behind you. Many ordinary Brits who did refuse conscription were not only jailed but also shunned by their own families. A lot of these guys were only young boys. It can't be compared with someone going into the army nowadays voluntarily with eyes open
@KaisaLisa Worse part is the rich lie to the regular people so they will go do the fighting and dying instead. Like this present war mess that we can NEVER EVER "WIN".
@verticalsmurf You have i right. Unfortunately, in the US they still preach the US vs Them. The average citizen of one country has nothing against the citizen of the other, it's all the petty egotism of the leaders.
@MsMaillou - I'm sorry to hear that. But please understand, I have nothing to forget or to forgive. I wasn't there. The grandkids of the people who participated in those atrocities weren't there. I can't hold it against my friends what their Grandparents did. In my circle of friends, if our Grandparents knew we were friends, they would turn in their graves. But to me, my friends don't hold the same beliefs as their ancestors, some are outright ashamed by what their ancestors did.
Anything that reminds of the past helps us to reflect on the sacrifice paid by so many. To those who rant and lose sight of the respect owed to our forefathers who gave us freedom, I hope ya all freeze yer arses off. Our generation hasn't been asked to pay any price and although politicians make the mess, we the working class clean er up. God bless our sons and daughters who wage into battle. For evil to exist, all it takes is a good amn to do nothing. Every drop of blood= a miilion tears
@Nightfighter74 There's much in what you say ...have a listen to June Tabor by comparison ...all we want now is Kiri Te Kanawa ...but I don't think she will....there are things one should not do ..you need a great melodic ear to crossover ...not to mention the harmony!
Perhaps the US has a different meaning for patriotic. US Navy Seals, as do so many Americans, support our wounded and maimed....we call that patriotism. Joan Baez's version of this song is not the best. Try Liam Clancy's version.
Since war appears to be here to stay, it's important to support our wounded heroes. Because if we don't, who will?
@pam04435 Maybe US are the fools who are doomed to repeat it all over. Patriotism, my arse. I gather you haven't made any personal sacrifices, i.e. been wounded or maimed in any useless war... ? Indeed, if no one supports those wars, maybe they will end. Who says war is there to stay? Gutless flag-wavers in the home front? Suuuuuure you'll support our wounded heroes as long you or yours aren't one of them. Shame!
@muzzzaa, poor comment mate, anyone who sees tragedy of the song and our diggers and feels moved to sing it is welcome. It tells their story and it makes different audiences think. Sure, it's not the best rendition of the song, but you can't blame her (or any other yank, pom, or turk) for history.
Phew. Fantastic, never heard this version before. Been used to Pogues, Dubliners etc... Once I got used to the slight changes at the end, to me, Joan Baez's beautiful voice gave it an almost dreamy, hopeless, 'somehere in time' touch. Great music. Sod the dummies who can't just listen and be moved.
I have nothing but admiration for the men who fought-better men than I could ever be.And nothing but contempt for the politiciasns who sent them to do it and the generals who made things even worse.
War, in whatever flag-waving form, is only, for the benefit of the companies who make the weapons, airplanes, bombs. It does nothing but take our sons and daughters, kill them or maim them for corporate profit. Support our Soldiers--in what, the fact that they cannot get a job in our falling apart economic mess here in the USA--so they take a "job" in the military & get low pay and limited medical care. You do what you have to in order to survive, that's the sad truth of this song.
In terms of relative sacrifice it was New Zealanders who made the biggest sacrifice at Gallipoli loosing 2, 701 lives against a population 1. 1 million. We salute their courage.
Simply god-awful;. I have loved Joan since her first album but every now and then her zeal for singing out against war and its consequences, she covers a song that she is completely wrong for. This is one of them.
While many Anzac troups fought valiently at Gallipoli their relative sacrifice has been exaggerated by the songwriters and poets. In terms of lives lost there were 21,255 Britons, 10,000 Frenchmen, 8,709 Australians and 2, 701 New Zealanders. Many Australian soldiers found trench warfare particularly hard to stomach and there were many instances of desertion and self-mutilation.
At the time of the Great War, Australia's population was 4 million, France's a little under 40 million and Britain's over 45 million. Do the math yourself on proportionate losses.
@johnsammyanfal And you will find incidences of such human reactions to the unbearable in every army in history in every war in history. The question is how did any of them actually manage to NOT lose their minds?
@johnsammyanfal So what?? How many Kuwaiti soldiers deserted in the face of Sadam? Anyway, you will find examples of this kind of very human reaction to unbearable circumstances in every army in every war in history. What point are you attempting to make about Aussies in particular?
whoever sings their version of this song, the message is surely a mixture of pride in our armed forces, shame that war happens, disgust that it means people suffer and knowledge that occasionally there are things (but not always) worth fighting for. The fact that we have to fight to sometimes make things right doesn't make war right.
and I thought Joan's rendition of Birmingham Sunday was amazing, this just reaches in and rips yer heart out.
there is no comparison though, whether it is Joan Baez, The Pogues or Eric Bogle, they are sung with such emotion each of them that you know they all sing it from the soul. I love that no singer mentioned has reworded the song, in which Eric Bogles words so easily capture the Aussie/Kiwi ways of speaking our minds.
O.K. listen up people, Joan sings it well, The Pogues sing it well, The writer of the song sings it well, but the best version is sung by A Canadian who migrated from Scotland by the name of John McDermott. Have a listen to him singing "My Old Man" by Phil Coulter. And by yhe way whats with all the bitchin, you are a disgrace
I cant listen to this song without crying let alone sing it! Horrible but lest we forget! Its VE Day today and but for these brave people suffering what they did where may we be now? Beautifully sung , supperbly written, a trully great song.
So many people have covered this song, a real tribute to the power of it, and the fact that the theme is universal. Unfortunately we still have to be vigilant for politicians send forces of to stupid wars.
'History' repeats itself regardless. Just look at the wars we have in the middle east. Why are we even there? I think the modern conflicts have just as less meaning as ANZAC day itself. It's sad when a nation takes something like this as an excuse to drink or have a day off. We talk about it being a day of national pride and identity, well if it's Australia's identity to be lazy and pissed then I'd like to move somewhere else.
@UnchainedMellers , to a small degree, I disagree, we should take that day off, and we should raise a beer (or any celebratory beverage) to the memory of the Anzacs,
yet I whole heartedly agree that it is not a day off for skylarking and getting drunk for leisure. and I for one hate the idea of Anzac Day football matches.
If you take these songs at face value( as in current events) how could anyone argue.
Well here is how: Look at it as history and not as a current event. Joan B as far as I am concerned is a short sighted bitch! She would be more then willing to sell her country short in exchange for her 30 pieces of silver. She never learned that mans purpose in life is to pass on his seed!
Perhaps the greatest thing to remember is this: War is simply WRONG! Remember that more inncoent, unarmed people died than soldiers. Remember they had no guns, no propoganda filled 'cause', weren't trying to kill some other's son...
DON'T forget the innocent. Perhaps even more worthy of remembrance, yet bizarrely forgotten
If only the american and british music empires had not charted a course away from the brightest stars in folk music who beat the bongos for peace. if only they had not chosen to navigate towards the darker, nether regions of the artistic universe. but for these cultural missteps, where might we be today as an enlightened and civil global society? if only. thank you, joan, for being our voice in the wilderness and a lifetime advocate for peaceful solutions.
Thank you for the great visuals. I simply love the way she sings this song. The way that you blended the artwork is wonderful. Thank you so much for doing this.
Don't you all realize that regardless of whether we are Australian, American, Iranian, Spanish or whatever other nationality, we are all the same because our blood runs red once we are cut, so please stop the bickering and listen to this most soulful song and watch this beautiful video!!
@razalady So true. We are all of us, men and women, brothers and sisters. We lay upon the altar of war the richest treasure of our nations, our children. Damn all war.
A great percentage of people in this world don't have the ability to think very deeply and even less can understand or allow themselves to perform a roll reversal to try and become the subject of the song. There loss!
I think the best rendition of this song that I have heard. Love the accompanying dobro too. Reminds me of the criminal stupidity of the British general staff in ordering this suicidal attack. And the young men still answer the call!
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diprobocoala 1 month ago
I don't know what religion has to do with this. How about instead we just let people have their beliefs (or disbeliefs) and not try and change it. We can't get rid of religion or atheism so how about we try coexistence?
SuperClintEastwood 1 month ago 2
No top comment? Well I'd just like to say that this song gives me chills . . . especially the end. Hauntingly beautiful
jaylay734 1 month ago
@Robertz1986 Clean out your ears; she did a good job; Joan is a legendary folk singer. But nobody can top Eric Bogle's own version of this song.
RPenta 2 months ago
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before i write a word (excuse me, cause my bad english)
i'll think "RPenta" isn't wrong, it's a great version, the only version i've ever heard was from Ronnie Drew, from the Dubliners, .... and i loved (and still love) that Version, ... but that here is a great Version, too
drummingmassigermany 1 month ago
Killing me softly ...Its now happening in Afghanistan... I wonder if it is really worth it .... great lads and I feel for their familes. At 71 I have seen a bit of life but never this side. Graham Melb Aus
23zowie23 2 months ago
Great posting of a lovely song - thanks
KITCHENOFDISTINCTION 2 months ago
somoene once told me there would be no peace whilst 2 humans were left on the earth but if the last man standing was scottish, he'd just fall out with himself. Made me smile and I hope it does for you too. Just remember it's often politicians in bunkers who send the troops to fight their squabbles. Oh for a bottle to share between nations and a night of song and laughter in the soul. Great recording, thanks for posting.
nv7103 2 months ago 4
Australia killed more Turks.
SuperClintEastwood 2 months ago
i prefer the pogues version...
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TheServiceWeb 4 months ago
I have been an Australian Joan Baez fan for years but have not heard this....thanks. I somehow think of this song every Anzac Day as the ranks of the marchers thin out and we still lose brave soldiers fighting wars started under false pretences
MrDEXXTER2 4 months ago
A wise man in peace prepares for war.....humans wont learn look at history.
pazazu21 4 months ago
And we are on our way in Europe for a repeat with the vile hate monger Turkish pigbrains Erdogan.
trythinkingmighthelp 4 months ago
is this on an album?
whyowhy345 4 months ago
does anyone recall a thing called the crusades?...and yet we would never turn to our Christian brother and think him guilty 'of the sins of the father'
diannaporter1 5 months ago
I deeply thank you Joan...
911nanothermite 5 months ago
As John Cleese said, in Fawlty Towers, "Don't mention the Var". Are we not at Peace now? So why discuss war? War is Hell, Peace is Now. Spend your time Living, not raking over the coals. Or maybe you really hanker after a re-run? Look at yourselves and decide who the Warmongers are. "I did, but I Think I got away with it".
Tornfreedom 5 months ago
such a sad song
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
Don't blame the warriors, blame the wealthy fat cats that became richer off the blood of the young. Blame Aristorical arrogance.With regards to America and the blood your politicians have stolen from this generation. Why are you in Iraq, Why are you in Afghanistan. Bin Laden was in Pakistan.Bush wanted revenge on Saddam, nothing to do with 911. Bin Laden was supposed to be in Afghanistan
candicesdad1 6 months ago
Nice!
reefbismuth 6 months ago
Let us have a good clean war where the trenches are manned by the elderly heoes and Politicians, mans inhumanity to man. I too cannot forgive the Nazis or ffor that matter the German race. Them and the Japanese should have been removed from the face of the earth. No one can tell me that the German population did not know what Hitler was doing in their name. The creulty of the Japanese soldiers to the non combatants in Asia shows to me that the average Jap was no better than their emperor
candicesdad1 6 months ago
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iT seems that by your logic America shoud should have wiped off the globe.
Perhaps the whole human race. and perhaps that is what will happen.
Let us hope that the human race will evolve into peaceful people. But that likely
will not happen.
Bless these great warriors
af17463368 6 months ago
@candicesdad1 - Can you hold the atrocities of the grandparents against kids born 10 years ago? What about those of German or Japanese descent, born and raised in allied countries, who worked as soldiers, spies and translators? You can't tar everyone with the same brush. Give your rage to the people who committed the crimes, but leave the children and grandchildren of those involved out of it.
verticalsmurf 6 months ago
@verticalsmurf Yes we can, The atrocities committed by the Japanese and Germans were beyond any realm of humanity.. I have used this particulat thread to raise these points as Joan Baez was a supporter of PoloPot and supported Jane Fonda in castigating the Vets that returned from Vietnam. The gravemarkers for the fallen not only mark a soldiers grave but are a marker for a son, husband ,father or grandchild. The cure for cancer could be lying in Flanders Field.
candicesdad1 6 months ago
@candicesdad1 - Are you saying that the bloke I sit next to at work (2nd generation Aussie with Japanese heritage) should be killed just because some people of his race were nut-job sadistic war mongers? I don't know his background, for all I know his grandparents spent the whole war planting rice.
verticalsmurf 6 months ago
@verticalsmurf I never said that at all. But as you said you don't know what his family background was. They could have easily being troops who beheaded Australian Prisoners of War.They could have been people who organised the bayoneting of children in Korea. They could also have been the guards of Changi and the forced railway construction that killed thousands of POWs.or maybe back home planting rice
candicesdad1 6 months ago
@candicesdad1 - yes, you did 'I too cannot forgive the Nazis or ffor that matter the German race. Them and the Japanese should have been removed from the face of the earth.'
Your second point - Maybe his Grandfather was the one who killed my Grandfathers Brother. Maybe his Grandfather did work at Changi. Maybe one of the men my Grandfather shot was related to him. Who knows? We were both born after WW2, why should either of us carry the hatred of past conflicts?
verticalsmurf 6 months ago
@verticalsmurf Because I watched first han of the on going suffering of their victims
candicesdad1 6 months ago
@verticalsmurf i love your comment bec it is so apropos to my situation as a native american...why dredge up stuff that happened so long ago, right?...yet ppl are always asking me how i feel...(sometimes i pretend i know nothing "bec i'm mexican or polynesian") ... i'm open to other suggestions for come-backs as i'm so tired of the question
TheHosteenez 4 months ago
@TheHosteenez - Just tell them you feel a bit off, but it's probably allergies. Or tell them that your finger feels really sore because of a paper cut. Or you feel really annoyed at a character twist on that (insert your favourite TV show) episode last night. Or that you are uncomfortable because your pants are riding up your crack but you can't politely dislodge them in public. Have fun with them! Say anything that will force them to see you as a person and not as a product of history.
verticalsmurf 4 months ago
@candicesdad1 I believe you greatly underestimate the pervasiveness of human ignorance, as well as the powers that propaganda can hold. Would you blame a child for listening to their mother? Would you be able to tell me the political history of Iran and what it's government did to their people? The fact of the matter is that there is no such thing as a "good clean war" because blood would stain the hands of any who fought, and yet without soilders what you now call a war could well be a massacre
phoenix0192 3 months ago
@phoenix0192 I probably could tell you the history of Persia and the change to the Shah and the silly zealot in power now. I agree that there is no such thing as a clean war and soldiers are necessary whilst we have religious zealots and empire building fools supported by sheep prepared to kill their fellow man.The price is too high, our precious young. killed. wounded, maimed and driven insane for a faction designed to start after the world ends. The dead will rise on the last day, Bible, Koran
candicesdad1 3 months ago
@candicesdad1 The bible and the Koiran have caused more death and destruction than any other reaosn in history. If we could get rid of religion the World would be a better place and perhaps peace could break out.
willymaccy 2 months ago
@willymaccy I agree with you, fanatics are dead set on demanding how we live after we die by killing millions during this life time. John Lennon said "imagine no religion to live or die for". The question of how "god" can be on both sides of a war really is strange to me. Koran or Bible. neither make any sense
candicesdad1 2 months ago 3
@willymaccy They got rid of religion in the Soviet Union. How many died : 60 million ? More. Same in Mao's China. 70 million dead. Killed or starved. Yeah, sure, better without religion so they can have "peace" to torture, imprison, oppress, censor, starve and SLAUGHTER !
southwoodside 2 weeks ago
"As they wheeled us down the gangway.
And nobody cheered, they just stood and stared.
And they all turned their faces away."
What a said world.....
siffchopf22 7 months ago
Yes Joan Baez is a good singer.
globe255 7 months ago
By far the best version of this song I've ever heard
42rosie 7 months ago 2
There is no such thing as winning a war, but God bless those who honor their cause--whether through art, music, words, or life.
mclaquarius94 7 months ago
RIP Claude Choules. Not that he would have agreed to march anywhere, from what I hear.
typacsk 7 months ago
There are 9 people on You Tube with no souls.
Chicagoan444 8 months ago
waltz, matilda on down south of my waist, and suck on my pecker!
jackstrawfrmwchta 8 months ago
what would happen if there was a war and nobody wanted participate?
KaisaLisa 8 months ago
@KaisaLisa Probably wouldn't be a war in the first place.
mclaquarius94 7 months ago
Lions misled by donkeys - each and every one.
newagemisfit 9 months ago
this song always sends a shiver up my spine,,
william3231954 9 months ago
There will always be wars...and regrets after...wtf
infradig8 9 months ago
She was a big supporter of Pol Pot and she also supported Jane Fonda. This bitch also claimed the American POW's were not tortured.
lonedove1981 9 months ago
THIS SONG IS AN ANTI-WAR SONG! Some people are so silly
MrBlueVeins 9 months ago
fucking bloodbath this battle was
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850Nexus 9 months ago
I can't belive I've never heard this song before. It's so beautiful and sad.
m2lazy4u 9 months ago
@m2lazy4u Written by Eric Bogle Check him out. Great version by Joan.
357HFC 9 months ago
Real soldiers of any generation can feel this pain. FUCK YOUR POLITICS.Soldiers have no politics
electramuffin 9 months ago
oh for fuck sakes, enjoy the song and leave politics alone
billywish 10 months ago 2
Qué lindo canta Joan!
Ariennezita 10 months ago
weer een aanklachtt van een ver godvergeten oorlog om met cornelis vreeswijk te speken wie wil er generaal zijn met stemmen die nasaal zijn wanneer er totaal geen zicht doen ze toch wat hun plicht is dan tellen de lijken en komen met critiek ver anderen van tactiet
onos01 10 months ago
the forgotten war. teh forgotten heroes.
kungfupandaisawsome 10 months ago
The one and only time I have heard this live was in about 1982 in NYC at Danny Boys...before it closed...performed live by Fiona Malloy...seems it was also her birthday...happened to be surfing vids and ran across this...thank you...
wisvoyeur 10 months ago
The pic at 3:15 always makes me imagine how horrible that war must have been. The poor soldier in the foreground has obviously gone mad. You have to wonder how many millions of lives have been senselessly ruined by war. This song drives that point home very well. Hard not to shed tears for those who fought.
natureboy99 10 months ago
My only regret with this song is that Joan mashes the lyrics
knuckey63 11 months ago
Had my Aunt balls she'd be my UNCLE. Are you f**king stupid???? The yanks had NO more atomic weapons and couldn't make them any more powerful - period.... Japs were aggressors, as was Germany . Poms dragged their colonies into wars that had F -ALL to do with them. Bugger Japan, they got what they desrved.....Shame the same didn't happen to Germany
rodneys0909 11 months ago
Some human beings can fight for a cause with words , music, and art without spilling blood. God bless those who have the courage to live.
Thespadecaller 11 months ago 23
@Thespadecaller Most of them that time didnt had the courage to live they joined the army.
globe255 7 months ago
I've never had to face the test and am too old to be conscripted now, but I don't want to live in a world where nothing is worth fighting for. God Bless the men and women with the courage to have the fight.
helenlovesjohn 11 months ago
This song was sung best by Liam Clancy.
sandinmyears1 1 year ago
rodneys0909, you might want to read something or look up something about the first world war... How come you condemn the Pommies and the ermans but not the French? WW1 was a war between Germany, FRANCE, Russia, Austria-Hungary, the "Pommies" actually joined a day later, after Belgium was invaded by Germany. After France and Germany declared war.
tplamont 1 year ago
A song for Aussies.... RIP Aussies , Kiwis ,Turks & French . Bugger the Pommies & Germans.... It was their war- we got dragged into. My Great Grandfather & Great Uncle both fought in this war to end all wars...... Who will stand up against warmongers when we are gone? I will instill in my children a pride for our country and a distrust of warmongers. Japan should thank their Deities that the Atomics bombs weren't bigger- God knows they deserved all they got... Why the pity for war mongerers?
rodneys0909 1 year ago
Had those A-Bombs been bigger you would have been an irradiated mutant. you think the Japanese soldiers knew any better than the Anzac Diggers? or the US - GI, soldier follow orders, the orders of their Command, my grandfather faced horrors at the hand of the Japanese, because the Australian Command moved his Unit from the Middle East to S-East Asia, without Greens, they were fighting Jungle warfare in Desert Kahki's and still he would say never hate the Japanese, they were just following orders
bardsidhe 1 year ago
@rodneys0909 It has the same non political message as UNIVERSAL SOLDIER. WE owe them a great deal of respect. May they RIP.
357HFC 9 months ago
@rodneys0909 Re the "this song is for Aussies - bugger the Pommies" comment. You do know that this song was written by a Brit. Eric Bogle was born and brought up in the Scottish Borders. He was an adult of about 25 years when he went to Australia and had hardly been there long enough to ware out a few sets of guitar strings when he wrote the song.
gaconnochie 9 months ago
the lyrics r wrong. eg should be,,To hump tent and pegs, a man needs both legs ( humping meaning to carry) also there r other mistakes but if u check the Eric Bogle (writer) website u will find them. The mistakes deter from the ozzie speak.
blahblahblah85 1 year ago
having just discovered this song, this is certainly in keeping with her stance against wars. The most poignant songs are those about the survivors with horrendous injuries. I had two Great-Uncles who fought in WWI. one of them was on disablity because he was one of the thousands of men who had been gassed and he had weak eyes that had bleached to just a pale faint blue. We need to find ways to avert wars like this song, where the best any of the men could expect was coming out alive but maimed.
TheWagbert 1 year ago
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Joan, you have a beutiful voice, but you have no right to sing THIS song.
You are American, my grandad was shot and wounded twice in Suvla Bay, why do you climb on the back of trageties like this, f*cking oppurtnist is what you are.
dobella 1 year ago
@dobella No she's a singer singing a beautiful tragic song. I play this sometimes, and I'm no Aussie. Get a grip, whoever sings this is honouring the Anzac.
claytonave 1 year ago
@dobella I'm an Aussie and am pleased to hear Joan Baez sing this song. It is idiotic, blind patriotism like yours that feeds wars. Joan is no more "climb[ing] on the back of tragedies like this" than is Eric Bogle who wrote the song. Joan also isn't a "f*cking oppurtnist [sic]" (I assume you mean opportunist). She spent many, many years actively fighting for peace and human rights: going to gaol for it and putting her life on the line. You, dobella, are an embarrassment to Australians.
berthosquire 1 year ago 17
@berthosquire Well said ... Thank you!
TheSystemRevolution 3 months ago
In 1934 Atatürk wrote a tribute to the ANZACs killed at Gallipoli:
"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. ... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well."
jrwjrw88 1 year ago 2
@jrwjrw88 I guess Ataturk's summed up the attitude of most Australians and, we believe,Turkish peoples. "May God forbid that we should ever find ourselves once again opposed as we were in those dreadful months of 1915".
dougnow65 1 year ago
This is so sad it hurts. Joan Baez proving once again she has consummate ability and iron principles. Brilliant version of a brilliant song.
SouthCoastMackem 1 year ago 2
I often wonder which stirs me more, The Band Played...., sung by liam Clancy, or The Green Fields...., sung by Finbar Fury or The Corries. Also chech out "Last night I had the strangest dream" done by the Corries.
I've worked in many African wars and am a Scottish person living in Australia...am about to check out Eric Bogle.
starstyx 1 year ago
@starstyx , if you like these then try..... celtic thunder- chrismas 1915
HedgehogChopper 1 year ago
Eric Bogle is the forgotten hero where this song is concerned.... The Pogues (great band) covered this in the finest way possible and The Fureys made Green Fields their own and a great job they made... But remember the story teller of these songs... the great Mr Bogle... Take a listen to 'What Kind of man is he' another fact based song by Eric and well worth a listen..... G'day!!
FP51DPO 1 year ago
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PhAlecAlec 1 year ago
WHEN WE LEARN...........WAR IS THE ENEMY.
wc4dblues 1 year ago
On this day, 'Rememberance Sunday', let us with God on our side(!) not forget that every time one of our soldiers, sailors or airmen takes a life then somewhere in the world a mother weeps, a child cries or a wife mourns!
Whatever the colour or nationality, in death, they too are mourned by their loved-ones . we should remember them too!.....
Factnotfictionpeople 1 year ago
Today is america's veterens day, I do thank our soldiers. If the politicians and the other mis-orchestraitors were from those that delivered life into the world - just maybe there would be fewer conflicts because life is held in the regard it should be. and not squandered so carelessly. I'll be in the stands with my pom-poms when justice is dished out.
lisaj62 1 year ago
I would have liked to have seen her get the lyrics right and play the full song. I still prefer the Dubliners and Pogues versions.
cbruckel 1 year ago
3/7 weapons company. usmc, battalion song
jmattify 1 year ago
beautiful voice...powerful song.
rshnrvrrbrt 1 year ago
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rshnrvrrbrt 1 year ago
Mike Harding (really!!) does a fantastic version of this.
totengraber29 1 year ago
There is a pain far more intense than the wounds suffered in battle, that pain is returning to oblivion.
SPAD58 1 year ago
With all due respect to the great Joan Baez, nobody does this song better than Liam Clancy!
geohabe 1 year ago
@geohabe - The Pogues version is my favourite so far
kegzasaurus 1 year ago
Check out Eric Bogle, the man who wrote the song. a Scotsman who moved to Australia in 1969, he also wrote the Green fields of France which he called No Mans Land so I guess thats the proper name for the song. Credit where credits due.
albhoy 1 year ago
From Ataturk: Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well.
verticalsmurf 1 year ago 57
@verticalsmurf Thank you
mattnell62 1 year ago
@verticalsmurf : kind and brave words. thank you.
mckqed 1 year ago
@mckqed - Not my words, those are the words of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.
I think his words are poignant. In war it is often necessary to kill an enemy, but it takes something else to recognise that that enemy was still someone's son, that there is a grieving family left suffering, and to offer comfort.
It's because of Ataturk that Australia has a good relationship with Turkey, and its with thanks to him that we can have our ANZAC day rememberances on the shore that we once invaded.
verticalsmurf 1 year ago
@verticalsmurf Thanks for your elaboration, vSmurf.
Human nature is such a vexed thing. I am so glad Atatürk was able to say this. Perhaps one day the Turks and the Armenians can find a similar point of reconciliation.
Barış.
mckqed 1 year ago
@verticalsmurf kind words indeed
hilly1690 1 year ago
@verticalsmurf We are honored that our fallen rest amonst heros
lordchickenhawk 11 months ago
@lordchickenhawk - I agree, they are all heroes, The turks were protecting their homeland and we were invading on orders. I really like Ataturks sentiments, to me they speak of respecting the fallen, and that although we may have different religions, we all have mothers and we are all the same in death.
verticalsmurf 11 months ago
@verticalsmurf Wonderful words! I wish more people could feel this way!
180523 10 months ago
@verticalsmurf Whoever said this is a poet. It transported me. And I see 29 other people had the same reaction. Bless your heart.
mightymissk 9 months ago 2
@mightymissk Thankyou, but I'm just repeating the words of a good man.
verticalsmurf 8 months ago
@verticalsmurf What a lot of rubbish! A War definately doesn't produce "heros", only useless deaths. And those who participate are not free of fault . As a responsible mother I would never agree to sending my son to a war!
KaisaLisa 8 months ago
@KaisaLisa - But you are living in now. 90 years ago, it was expected that young men went to war. Those that didn't were given white feathers as a sign of cowardice. We get it now, if anyone I know was to go to war I'd do anything I could to stop them. My Poppy Jack and his brother Bob served, Bob died, and Poppy Jack saw it, they are both heroes to me. I don't see their experiences as rubbish. What we know now shouldn't stop us from remembering and respecting what those before us did.
verticalsmurf 8 months ago 2
@verticalsmurf True and there were thousands of objectors in Britain (and I suppose in Oz) and it probably wouldn't be so bad if it was done for religious reasons as one could maybe take a jail sentence if your family and friends were behind you. Many ordinary Brits who did refuse conscription were not only jailed but also shunned by their own families. A lot of these guys were only young boys. It can't be compared with someone going into the army nowadays voluntarily with eyes open
gaconnochie 8 months ago
@KaisaLisa Worse part is the rich lie to the regular people so they will go do the fighting and dying instead. Like this present war mess that we can NEVER EVER "WIN".
JoeMC7 7 months ago
@verticalsmurf You have i right. Unfortunately, in the US they still preach the US vs Them. The average citizen of one country has nothing against the citizen of the other, it's all the petty egotism of the leaders.
Aerohog1 7 months ago 2
@verticalsmurf The Nazis took my childhood. I'm glad you can forget and forgive. C'est n'est pas possible pour moi.
MsMaillou 7 months ago
@MsMaillou - I'm sorry to hear that. But please understand, I have nothing to forget or to forgive. I wasn't there. The grandkids of the people who participated in those atrocities weren't there. I can't hold it against my friends what their Grandparents did. In my circle of friends, if our Grandparents knew we were friends, they would turn in their graves. But to me, my friends don't hold the same beliefs as their ancestors, some are outright ashamed by what their ancestors did.
verticalsmurf 7 months ago
@verticalsmurf well said friend thank you
hilly1690 6 months ago
Anything that reminds of the past helps us to reflect on the sacrifice paid by so many. To those who rant and lose sight of the respect owed to our forefathers who gave us freedom, I hope ya all freeze yer arses off. Our generation hasn't been asked to pay any price and although politicians make the mess, we the working class clean er up. God bless our sons and daughters who wage into battle. For evil to exist, all it takes is a good amn to do nothing. Every drop of blood= a miilion tears
XxjondaleyxX 1 year ago
Does not fit to her voice at all - compare to Liam Clancy or even the Pogues, what a difference!
Nightfighter74 1 year ago
@Nightfighter74 There's much in what you say ...have a listen to June Tabor by comparison ...all we want now is Kiri Te Kanawa ...but I don't think she will....there are things one should not do ..you need a great melodic ear to crossover ...not to mention the harmony!
Lisnageeragh 1 year ago
Perhaps the US has a different meaning for patriotic. US Navy Seals, as do so many Americans, support our wounded and maimed....we call that patriotism. Joan Baez's version of this song is not the best. Try Liam Clancy's version.
Since war appears to be here to stay, it's important to support our wounded heroes. Because if we don't, who will?
pam04435 1 year ago
@pam04435 Maybe US are the fools who are doomed to repeat it all over. Patriotism, my arse. I gather you haven't made any personal sacrifices, i.e. been wounded or maimed in any useless war... ? Indeed, if no one supports those wars, maybe they will end. Who says war is there to stay? Gutless flag-wavers in the home front? Suuuuuure you'll support our wounded heroes as long you or yours aren't one of them. Shame!
UkkoA 1 year ago
@UkkoA Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions. I lost my fiancee in Vietnam and my son in Iraq
pamal4348 1 year ago
My Grandfather was wounded at Gallipoli, why is a yank singing this when yanks were staying out of the scrap in 1915 selling goods to both sides?
muzzzaa 1 year ago
@muzzzaa Leave it alone, Brother. It's Joan Baez-
Her history speaks volumes for us all.
OL55CADDY 1 year ago
@muzzzaa, poor comment mate, anyone who sees tragedy of the song and our diggers and feels moved to sing it is welcome. It tells their story and it makes different audiences think. Sure, it's not the best rendition of the song, but you can't blame her (or any other yank, pom, or turk) for history.
tosgem 1 year ago
Phew. Fantastic, never heard this version before. Been used to Pogues, Dubliners etc... Once I got used to the slight changes at the end, to me, Joan Baez's beautiful voice gave it an almost dreamy, hopeless, 'somehere in time' touch. Great music. Sod the dummies who can't just listen and be moved.
bonkersd0g 1 year ago
This song is a favorite of many US Navy Seals. Anyone who has patriotic bone in their body can relate to this song.
pam04435 1 year ago
@pam04435 hit the nail on the head
77bigdoug 1 year ago
I have nothing but admiration for the men who fought-better men than I could ever be.And nothing but contempt for the politiciasns who sent them to do it and the generals who made things even worse.
marktayloruk 1 year ago
War, in whatever flag-waving form, is only, for the benefit of the companies who make the weapons, airplanes, bombs. It does nothing but take our sons and daughters, kill them or maim them for corporate profit. Support our Soldiers--in what, the fact that they cannot get a job in our falling apart economic mess here in the USA--so they take a "job" in the military & get low pay and limited medical care. You do what you have to in order to survive, that's the sad truth of this song.
MTM60302 1 year ago
''Fack nationalism mite, it's a song about the shite that ALL workers ficed in ALL wars. Goodye!''
Tommyfazz 1 year ago
they fought and died for thier Mates..as they always do..some were lucky and some were not..
amen..
amerikanerfreund 1 year ago
In terms of relative sacrifice it was New Zealanders who made the biggest sacrifice at Gallipoli loosing 2, 701 lives against a population 1. 1 million. We salute their courage.
johnsammyanfal 1 year ago
@johnsammyanfal Acknowledge your statistics. All those who paid the supreme sacrifice should be saluted.
357HFC 1 year ago
Simply god-awful;. I have loved Joan since her first album but every now and then her zeal for singing out against war and its consequences, she covers a song that she is completely wrong for. This is one of them.
piehole23 1 year ago
While many Anzac troups fought valiently at Gallipoli their relative sacrifice has been exaggerated by the songwriters and poets. In terms of lives lost there were 21,255 Britons, 10,000 Frenchmen, 8,709 Australians and 2, 701 New Zealanders. Many Australian soldiers found trench warfare particularly hard to stomach and there were many instances of desertion and self-mutilation.
johnsammyanfal 1 year ago 2
@johnsammyanfal
At the time of the Great War, Australia's population was 4 million, France's a little under 40 million and Britain's over 45 million. Do the math yourself on proportionate losses.
piehole23 1 year ago
@johnsammyanfal .no disrespect mate.but it was a TERRIBLE WAR,and we have to give respect to whoever lost a life,should it be one or a million!
cashy147 1 year ago
@johnsammyanfal And you will find incidences of such human reactions to the unbearable in every army in history in every war in history. The question is how did any of them actually manage to NOT lose their minds?
TheCairnslocal 1 year ago
@johnsammyanfal So what?? How many Kuwaiti soldiers deserted in the face of Sadam? Anyway, you will find examples of this kind of very human reaction to unbearable circumstances in every army in every war in history. What point are you attempting to make about Aussies in particular?
TheCairnslocal 1 year ago
whoever sings their version of this song, the message is surely a mixture of pride in our armed forces, shame that war happens, disgust that it means people suffer and knowledge that occasionally there are things (but not always) worth fighting for. The fact that we have to fight to sometimes make things right doesn't make war right.
fikelly100 1 year ago
and I thought Joan's rendition of Birmingham Sunday was amazing, this just reaches in and rips yer heart out.
there is no comparison though, whether it is Joan Baez, The Pogues or Eric Bogle, they are sung with such emotion each of them that you know they all sing it from the soul. I love that no singer mentioned has reworded the song, in which Eric Bogles words so easily capture the Aussie/Kiwi ways of speaking our minds.
bardsidhe 1 year ago
beautiful - very moving
kipioneer 1 year ago
O.K. listen up people, Joan sings it well, The Pogues sing it well, The writer of the song sings it well, but the best version is sung by A Canadian who migrated from Scotland by the name of John McDermott. Have a listen to him singing "My Old Man" by Phil Coulter. And by yhe way whats with all the bitchin, you are a disgrace
Tcheuchter1 1 year ago
I cant listen to this song without crying let alone sing it! Horrible but lest we forget! Its VE Day today and but for these brave people suffering what they did where may we be now? Beautifully sung , supperbly written, a trully great song.
OkanamaDragon 1 year ago
So many people have covered this song, a real tribute to the power of it, and the fact that the theme is universal. Unfortunately we still have to be vigilant for politicians send forces of to stupid wars.
ssath09 1 year ago
Tears - so moving! Revisiting you again Joan. Didn't know you had th1s treasure up your sleeve. Thank you for the music.
cameron2610 1 year ago
This song makes me cry everytime, and Im a POM! : )
We love ya Aussies.
gnark1ll1us 1 year ago 13
pearly pearly shell from the ocean...when I see them my heart tells me that I love you...More then all the little pearly shells...Screw
themightyfid 1 year ago
Just another version of a great song with poingnant lyrics. Listern well and enjoy and think
chloby08 1 year ago
'History' repeats itself regardless. Just look at the wars we have in the middle east. Why are we even there? I think the modern conflicts have just as less meaning as ANZAC day itself. It's sad when a nation takes something like this as an excuse to drink or have a day off. We talk about it being a day of national pride and identity, well if it's Australia's identity to be lazy and pissed then I'd like to move somewhere else.
UnchainedMellers 1 year ago
@UnchainedMellers , to a small degree, I disagree, we should take that day off, and we should raise a beer (or any celebratory beverage) to the memory of the Anzacs,
yet I whole heartedly agree that it is not a day off for skylarking and getting drunk for leisure. and I for one hate the idea of Anzac Day football matches.
bardsidhe 1 year ago
Didn't realise she had covered the song that tells how terrible WW1 was and how it ripped people's life apart. No More War.
millertas 1 year ago
If you take these songs at face value( as in current events) how could anyone argue.
Well here is how: Look at it as history and not as a current event. Joan B as far as I am concerned is a short sighted bitch! She would be more then willing to sell her country short in exchange for her 30 pieces of silver. She never learned that mans purpose in life is to pass on his seed!
pigmanobvious 1 year ago
Perhaps the greatest thing to remember is this: War is simply WRONG! Remember that more inncoent, unarmed people died than soldiers. Remember they had no guns, no propoganda filled 'cause', weren't trying to kill some other's son...
DON'T forget the innocent. Perhaps even more worthy of remembrance, yet bizarrely forgotten
barrach7 1 year ago
If only the american and british music empires had not charted a course away from the brightest stars in folk music who beat the bongos for peace. if only they had not chosen to navigate towards the darker, nether regions of the artistic universe. but for these cultural missteps, where might we be today as an enlightened and civil global society? if only. thank you, joan, for being our voice in the wilderness and a lifetime advocate for peaceful solutions.
scentmuse 1 year ago
First time I have picked up on this song. She is just wonderfull, the madness of Galipolli and the bad judgement of Churchill
davmccorm 1 year ago
god where ever she is will not do it again to young man
colum1498 1 year ago
I agree. Liam Clancy and Ronnie Drew do a great job on it as well.
liamthedream 1 year ago
Thank you for the great visuals. I simply love the way she sings this song. The way that you blended the artwork is wonderful. Thank you so much for doing this.
DNAblues 1 year ago
Greatest anti-war song ever written. Sung beautifully by Ms Baez.
theoriginalbadbob 1 year ago
Beautiful. Thank you.
Congratulations, USA
On finally joining the health care world
Congratulations.
About time.
bouncedrealitycheck 1 year ago
Absolutely brilliant visuals with one of the greatest folk voices. The WWII American Battleships do not annoy too much.
VINNIECENT25 1 year ago
With all due respect, I strongly feel that Liam Clancy's (R.I.P) rendition of this ballad is powerful.
liamthedream 1 year ago
@liamthedream And so is this. I just love the way she sings it too. Neither version is better or worse. It is sung beautifully by a number of people.
DNAblues 1 year ago
Don't you all realize that regardless of whether we are Australian, American, Iranian, Spanish or whatever other nationality, we are all the same because our blood runs red once we are cut, so please stop the bickering and listen to this most soulful song and watch this beautiful video!!
razalady 1 year ago 37
@razalady WELL SAID!!!!!! The suffering of one is the suffering of humanity.
andieslandies 1 year ago 2
@razalady So true. We are all of us, men and women, brothers and sisters. We lay upon the altar of war the richest treasure of our nations, our children. Damn all war.
rillifane 1 year ago 4
@razalady
A great percentage of people in this world don't have the ability to think very deeply and even less can understand or allow themselves to perform a roll reversal to try and become the subject of the song. There loss!
My fav version of the song is by John McDerrmitt.
mockradgy 1 year ago
@razalady ~ So very well said!
edwardjames50 11 months ago
Lest we forget - good one Joan.
12BarDave 1 year ago 2
I think the best rendition of this song that I have heard. Love the accompanying dobro too. Reminds me of the criminal stupidity of the British general staff in ordering this suicidal attack. And the young men still answer the call!
dana11050 1 year ago 3