The Big Question - Is Paganism more relevant than Christianity today? Part 01.divx

[corkbender]

Interesting how the christian dude says "druids sacrificed blah blah blah." I guess all those wars started in the name of Christianity didn't harm any people or animals. Sure...

[PaganWalker]

One. Christianity hasn't been in the UK for 2000 years because that would mean when Jesus was put on the cross has soon as that happened it was in the UK which didn't happen

Two. When the Saxons went mostly over to Christianity as the christian monks tell us at that time the Vikings came and undid that in a lot of the UK

Three. The pagan Romans got rid of the druids because it was a Roman law not to do human sacrifice plus they more importantly kept the local people fighting the Romans

[Colton8646]

"Roman law not to do human sacrifice". I should fucking hope so, you Pagans are sad excuses for human beings.



[666BrotherofMetal]

Pisses me off how there are members of the audiance giggling as she talks.

You wont see a fucking priest talk and have people giggle.

Disrespectful.

[Colton8646]

@666BrotherofMetal No one cares If your pissed off. As the amazing atheist said on we don't have to respect Paganism.

[666BrotherofMetal]

@Colton8646 Oh, someone never got any for Valentine's Day....;)

[Fenrirsdoom]

How can anyone claim Christianity has the moral high ground.......

[CrazyGrapefruit]

The correct and UNCORRUPTED Jewish translation is "thou shall not suffer a *Black/Dark Sorceror* to live."

That is to say, a sorceror with deliberately sinister intentions. As any wiccan will tell you, sorcery, 'spell casting' and paganism don't go hand-in-hand. Maybe if Christians had had a better grasp of the ancient Hebrew script a few hundred years ago, that whole sordid "mass murder" business could have been avoided.

[666BrotherofMetal]

@CrazyGrapefruit think of "spells" and all that as prayers. Because that's all they are. :)

[CrazyGrapefruit]

I love how there's Christians nowadays who refuse to take part in its 'heathen' holidays or traditions, yet refuse to realize those are the same things that made the church popular in the first place. XD

[thesaber903]

have u noticed that the quran said we not exactly kill but 'kill' anyone that does not take islam . and the bible long ago said burn witches .... we pagans have a book with spells . yh were good

[daddyleon]

lol, neutral if your jewish..

atheists are neutral.

jewish are like christians.

[BITE256]

too bad this debate wasnt longer

[daddyleon]

@BITE256 I think that mostly with these programs..

[Fireflygamer]

Did that guy seriously call into question the moral code of wicca compared to Christianity and Jewdism. The old testament which is the Jewish holy book, is one of the most evil books out there, it justifies murder, rape and enslavement of non Jews. It tells you to kill your child for being rebellious, it treats women like property and the list goes on. Do what ye will less it harms none, is the moral code that this savage nature religion of wicca holds, Personally i think its much better.

[nhbiker1961]

I find the NT more immoral then the OT.

[nhbiker1961]

What a moron? He is justifying Christianity by saying they stop the pagans animal sacrifices? They bible told them to murder the pagans, Jesus Fucking christ!

[BrandiD05]

This is excellent! I wish they would have religious talks/debates on tv in the U.S. Opening up and talking to one another (even though it can get heated easily) is great, imo.

[PerianArdocyl]

@BrandiD05 Haha, for some reason, it brings visions of Maury to mind. Wouldn't that be funny, though? At the least, it is deserving of a parody... I wonder if it has been done.

[BrandiD05]

@PerianArdocyl Ha, yeah. Maybe montel and they could have a debate with Sylvia Browne. :D

[rufus39]

try the 13 rules of a witch, blessed be.

[stormbringer126]

@Patriot3pcter You mad, bro? XD

[stormbringer126]

@Aireysghost1 Yes, as a matter of fact, Nazi's were Christian. Since Christianity was the largest religion in Germany, it only stands to reason that the Nazis were Christian. Learn your shit before trying to make a point.

[stormbringer126]

@Aireysghost1 Before you start bitching about other people's grammar, you should probably learn how to punctuate a sentence correctly.

[stormbringer126]

@deborah8567 I don't know much about Britain's social classes, but I do know he's an idiot ^_^

[BggProductions]

lol@ the christian trying to pull the 'sacrifice' card. don't know your history very well do you mate?

[stormbringer126]

@Aireysghost1

Spelled your name wrong.  My bad. The below comment was directed to you. And I felt it necessary to add that if your proof is sound enough, I'll believe you. And don't say Common Knowledge, either.

[deborah8576]

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[stormbringer126]

@Alysghost1

Prove it. (If you say Google it, I'll just use it as conformation that you pulled a bunch of Anti-Pagan propaganda out of your ass.)

[thesaber903]

Julies "This bible of yours" is awsome we pagans dont have a bible we have freedom , she shows him what we can do

[Aireysghost1]

Paganism hasn't started any wars? Unless you count WW2 the nazi's were pagans they had lots of ideas about nature,the occult ,the power of ritual and ceremony and use of mystical symbols, as one historian put it the nazi's were armed bohemians, hippies with guns.

[nesteph]

@Aireysghost1 that is complete and utter bullshit. the Nazi's were catholic and Lutheran. the culture of Germanic peoples includes references to Valhalla but they were not pagans.

[Aireysghost1]

@nesteph Excellent you have revealed yourself to be a moron, yes of course the Nazis were devout christians

how silly of me! That's why their name will always be associated with a deep love of humanity and Christian kindness,TWAT!

[nesteph]

@Aireysghost1 keep your fagatronics to yourself asshole. in no way were the Nazis pagan. they are on the same level as the christians who are worse, crusaders, witch hunters, romans, southern slavers, all good christians and all genocidal maniacs.

[Aireysghost1]

@nesteph "they are on the same level as the christians who are worse"? You are a fucking idiot who cannot even construct a coherent sentence, another ill informed peasant with nothing to say and this is the last time I will dignify you inane drivel with a response, fuck off.

[deborah8576]

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[deborah8576]

@Aireysghost1 everyone is a fucking peasant moron according to the lovely HAIRYAirey.......aaaaaw bless isn't he/she lovely????? mwaaaaah love you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[deborah8576]

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[GahdeMalprigi1488x]

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[PaganBorn79]

@WhiteVoicesUK I know they didn't call themselves Pagans, that's not the point . One of these women are Wiccan and the other is a Druid Priestess so how is that one religion? They are only using the term pagan to generalize the many paths under the umbrella term and that is all.

[witchcerridwen]

@PaganBorn79 paganism in general is a religion.we dont descriminate one another.like you are catholic and u r orthodox therefore u r diffrent.we see eachother as pagans whether u r druid witch or asatru.

[PaganBorn79]

@witchcerridwen paganism is not a "religion", it's a slang word for anyone who isn't a desert war god follower but yes you are correct, we don't discriminate amongst ourselves like those hateful abraham followers do.

[PaganBorn79]

@WhiteVoice Where is paganism practiced as one religion? Did I say various european creeds regarded themselves as pagan? Thanx again for needlesly explaining to me what pagan meant, I really had no idea(sarcasm) Yes some pagans had a hierarchy but was Boudica a man? were the witches considered second class citizens? not fucking likely bro. Witches(women) were considered as healers, mothers, priestesses, etc. That's why we have a goddess because we see women as equals, duh

[PaganBorn79]

@WhiteVoicesUK Dude, european paganism didn't just all of a sudden become popular. You act as if it's something new well it's not it was the norm back in the day and it didn't just arise to win votes on election day. Take a look around, the bible thumping suits are still trying to demonize us and we are winning because we are right. P.S. don't assume I don't know what the term paganism means, I am using the term in the context of the video which is obviously Celtic.

[PaganBorn79]

@WhiteVoicesUK 2) I have seen the money making schemes myself and I hate it but I don't see pagan spirituality itself as a bad thing. I agree that people should be skeptical and do their research before commiting themselves to something which can be said for pretty much anything in life.

[PaganBorn79]

@WhiteVoicesUK !) We should be skeptical of enviromental issues and equality of men and women?? I know what you're trying to say but I would be careful how you word it or it may come out the wrong way. Religion of any kind has been exploited throughout history is what I think you're trying to say and I agree but I wouldn't point the finger at the path itself so much as the people trying to exploit it.

[PaganBorn79]

@WhiteVoicesUK "modern paganism" is what it is because christians commited cultural genocide on top of the old fashioned genocide so we don't know all the fine details but we have a general idea of the core values and teachings so don't fault us on not knowing every single detail. Yeah pagans were warriors but we can also evolve to the times wich can't be said for dogma eating christians, jews and muslims who can't get enough of those "holy wars"

[martynblackburn1977]

The pagans were the first to espouse a love thy neighbour philosophy. And they were also the first to be given a moral code.

[AmericanPrincess109]

Kill Julie!! hahaha this show rocks (:

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[NotHomelessAnymore]

Campbell has way with words. Some of the questions he comes out with just make me lol. "Does this not mean to kill Julie?"

[twilightbiggestfan]

how ignorant was the presenter on this episode which is amazing it is my guilty pleasure to watch lol :)

[martynblackburn1977]

How can this Jew speak from the point of neutrality? It's obvious that he isn't speaking from neutrality.

[thewildplaces]

@martynblackburn1977 Exactly. I don't think anyone is neutral - we all frame new information through our biases. We are all biased. The question is, how well informed are your biases and how aware of them are you? More over, how willing are you to let them go?

The connotations attached to someone being a witch or a pagan are often huge. By pandering to neutrality when he is decidedly not (Christianity and Judaism are both from the same family) could actually make him more close-minded.

[candjim]

I thought 'thou shalt not suffer a witch to live' was in the King James version of the bible! The original Hebrew translation of this was 'thou shall not suffer a well poisoner to live!

[pootubeiscrap]

That presenter and the whole audience is so condescending.

[Theiasember]

How relevant can a religion be in terms of morality when the only thing holding someone back from doing harm is the promise of heaven or the threat of hell...

[Patriot3pcter]

@Theiasember actually, you do good because you love GOD and you stop sin because you have a strong hate for the devil, paganism and modern christianity are the same, the real people of GOD are called ISRAELITES, people that follow GOD's Commandments and Believe in Christ are GOD's People, Pagans infiltrated the organized religion of Christianity. the many gods are satan and his fallen angels. do your research, i never believed in God untill i did the research for years. PRAISE THE MOST HIGH GOD!

[Theiasember]

@Patriot3pcter "You do good because you love GOD and you stop sin because you have a strong hate for the devil..."

You say that & it may be true for you but for millions of people it is either the promise of heaven or the threat of hell that shapes and curbs their behavior. Religion in theory & practice are 2 diff things.

The rest of what you said in that post is conjecture based on opinion so there is no point in responding to that.

[Patriot3pcter]

Respond to this video...  why worship the creation? WORSIP THE CREATOR, THE MOST HIGH YAHSHUA!

WERE NOT ANIMALS, WE DID NOT COME FROM MONKEYS THAT EAT THEIR OWN POOP, THE ELITE DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW POWERFUL YOU REALLY ARE, THE ELITE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DESTROYING THIS WORLD, AND ITS ALL BY DESIGN AND THEY WORSHIP THE MANY gods, which are nothing more than fallen angels, that are all going to burn in a fiery hell anyway. they are a bunch of trash and the most high will crush them!!

[Theiasember]

@Patriot3pcter "WERE NOT ANIMALS, WE DID NOT COME FROM MONKEYS THAT EAT THEIR OWN POOP." We are in fact animals, specifically mammals, more specifically a type of ape. The lineage is there to be studied if you wished to. Apes do eat poo plus vegetation but chimps, 1 of our closest relatives eats meat like us, they are omnivores like us. That makes us apart of the natural order of the world we live in strong enough to have survived to this point.

[Fireflygamer]

@Theiasember But not all religions do that, I think you are thinking of the two biggest religions Islam and Christianity. Wicca on the other hand dose not bribe you with heaven or threaten you with hell in order to get good behavior. We do believe if you send out positive energy and do good things more good things will happen to you, and the same thing with bad things, more bad things will happen to you, I think everyone see that happening. Do what ye will less it harms none.

[Theiasember]

@Fireflygamer Hello. I was not referring to Wicca as Wiccan tenets do not involve a heaven or hell. My comment only referred to those religions that use such tactics, such threats to force their adherents into a false sense of morality. Just for future reference I am Pagan as well, a Witch though not Wiccan... BB )O(

[Fireflygamer]

@Theiasember I figured but I thought i would point out that not all religions are the same. Mind you most of the organized ones are. BB

[lokirat]

doh nicky campbell not jeremy kyle

[lokirat]

wow. someone was dumb enough to laugh when jeremy said witch. tut tut

[vampirictrends]

Wow what an amazing lady Julie is...the world needs more people like her...what good sense! She rocks!!!! Thanks for sharing this video.