The vaults are very difficult back then. Nadia is powerful and masculine, just look at her leg muscle.She can knock out 10 guys with her powerful body.What great power from her body.Nadia is indeed a powerful and strong gymnast.
I think you misunderstood my first comment. It was not meant as disrespect to Nadia. She is legendary and an amazing gymnast.(and my mom's Idol!) I was simply saying that I was surprised that gymnastics has changed so much that the skills they did in Nadia's time are now skills that we compete in level 8.
And as far as don't hate, my mom said you should live by your own words...
And she also told me after this contact not to reply again.
@zeldafreak701 I don't know what MLR's 'second vault' was [if she had one], but her main vault was a Tsuk full. Nadia's first vault is also a Tsuk [half turn onto the horse] but she does a back pike with no twist.
@kjilm6 are you famous? no. have you done things that have gone way beyond the skill level of today's gymnasts? no. the fact that you can do her vaults does not impress anyone. at the time she was the best, so don't hate.
I never said anything about hating. She's amazing. And I don't think you should be talking. What have you done that impresses anyone? That's right. NOTHING!
Oh, yeah and I just won Regionals and States in the hardest region and state on bars.
I hope we're done here because I really hate being snotty like this, although it seems like you're thing.
@kjilm6 Well Carly, after a little bit of internet digging, I saw that at your precious regional competition, you placed 49th and the competition was at Bart Conner's gym. I wonder, did you so wonderfully perform Nadia's vault there, in front of her husband? Maybe even in front of her? That would be embarrassing.
@stellamilanese13 Wow, you are really nasty. I don't think anyone was hating. Just noting the difference between what a "difficult" vault was back in Nadia's time, and what we consider difficult now. I can't do ANY vaults, so I AM impressed that kjilm6 can do Nadia's vaults. So don't speak for everybody.
@XxXHorseLoverXxX1 I doubt anyone has every gotten over a 17 :/ And if you knew anything about gymnastics you would know that the system changed in 2006.
USA execution judges don't mark as severely at worlds. I was talking about no one getting over a 17 at an international competition, seeing as some countries mark easier than others just at the national level.
(IE, America Cup (or SCAM) marks VERY easily with routines getting 9.0+ in execution (in the new code) when they should have received low 8.0's)
Okay someone please explain to me. I watched Shawn Johnson in the 2008 olympics and I saw her do what i think they called a 2 1/2 twist (something like that) and that looked 10x harder than what Nadia Comaneci (AKA the greatest gymnast of all time) did.
the difficulty of vaults has changed over time this vault was done in 1976 and shawn johnson's vault was done in 2008 so of course shawn's vault was much harder but this vault was already very hard for nadia's time
Nobody dreamed that what she did was possible until *after* she did it. It's the natural evolution of sport: you first need a genius like Nadia to set a higher standard for those less gifted to achieve. In my mind, there is no doubt that if Nadia were a 6 year old watching Shawn Johnson in 2008, that in 2016 she would set an even-higher standard. Mark her brilliance not by what gymnasts have achieved since her performances, but by what was achieved before -- and nothing even compares.
@MeanestCoachEver Hey listen I don't know much about gymnastics so I was asking a question. If your going to be rude to someone that is not being mean but trying to learn more than your the mean one. Give me a break I didn't understand so like any curious person I asked a question.
@MeanestCoachEver Well i believe you are wrong. I don't know much about gymnastics, so I asked a question that I believe was important to understanding gymnastics past and present.
@Stonymypony The fact that this comment got 4 thumbs up makes me fear for the future of gymnastics. First of all, this was 32 years ago, and the vault was NOT as springing as it has been made, it was very solid unlike today where it has a cushion and a little spring. Then there's the shape of the vault. This vault was extremely dangerous and a few gymnasts have become paralyzed vaulting.
@Gr33nkiwi okay thanks for the info. I think that people gave it a thumbs up because they liked that i asked the question. Don't worry about the future of gymnastics. It will be fine.
Gymnastics has dramatically changed. The yurchenko style vault [Shawn] wasn't even invented until 1982. The vault was different --- different horse [it was around until 2000 --- only one woman did the 2.5 on the old horse] and the springboard had little springs.
@mbmvcvdpzp no,,, she went to make the first Olympic ten in history!!! and seven times.
She is AMAZING BEST gymnast EVER
and guys do not be rude she was only 14 years old and that was really difficult at that time plus Shawn was 16 at her first olympics with a different vault and some things to make it plus
An awful lot of people commenting on here know jack shit about gymnastics history....if they did then they would know how much gymnasts today are aided by equipment!!! i.e they would be doing "just this and that" probably!!!
those 2 vaults really sucked big time!!! what i dont understand is how come they could fill a whole olympic STADIUM with people who PAYED to watch these kindergarten jumps... and yet nowadays in my local meets. only friends and family come although we do much much harder stuff. i'm so glad old gymnastics died long time ago. whoever wants it back should do ballet classes!
Don't forget how it was back then. They didn't have the same materials we do have now! We have a lot of extra things, so don't just think it was easy for them to do things like that... they didn't have advanced training or materials!
that is a very good point actually. I didn't see it like that, i took for granted the ultra sophisticated material we have now... which propulses the gymnast in the air better as well as absord the shock of landing, so less injuries etc ...
FX yes, a double twist or double tuck isnt hard nowadays with the special floors we got. But probably not back in the day with their equipment, and forget her UB skills, i wouldnt even dream of doing anything that cool.
She used to do hindorff and comaneci's so beautifully and effortlessly, which are still E skills today!
That vault WAS amazing for it's day-few women were doing Tsukaharas even at the 1976 Games. Nelli Kim did the first full twist Tsuk at those Olympics, Nadia and Tourischeva did Tsuk variations-but most of the women were doing half twists on, half off or some variation of handsprings like the Yamashita. This was really the first Olympics where somersaulting vaults were done by women and it was revolutionary for its day-and awesome due to their old time equipment none of which was springloaded.
@gymnasticsloverxoxo Nadia was one of the very first to compete a double back ... unfortunately she could not show it in Montreal due to an ankle injury. She also had ended with a double twist after starting with a double back, so I would say she was a good floor worker.
The vaults are very difficult back then. Nadia is powerful and masculine, just look at her leg muscle.She can knock out 10 guys with her powerful body.What great power from her body.Nadia is indeed a powerful and strong gymnast.
Planetimage2 6 months ago
@stellamilanese
I think you misunderstood my first comment. It was not meant as disrespect to Nadia. She is legendary and an amazing gymnast.(and my mom's Idol!) I was simply saying that I was surprised that gymnastics has changed so much that the skills they did in Nadia's time are now skills that we compete in level 8.
And as far as don't hate, my mom said you should live by your own words...
And she also told me after this contact not to reply again.
kjilm6 9 months ago
Didn't Mary Lou Retton do this exact vault in 1984?
zeldafreak701 9 months ago
@zeldafreak701 I don't know what MLR's 'second vault' was [if she had one], but her main vault was a Tsuk full. Nadia's first vault is also a Tsuk [half turn onto the horse] but she does a back pike with no twist.
kras118 7 months ago
difficulty of vaults have really changed!!!! thats a level 8 vault nowadays!!!!
gymmonkey521 9 months ago
I'm a level 8 gymnast and I can do both of her vaults!!!
kjilm6 11 months ago
@kjilm6 are you famous? no. have you done things that have gone way beyond the skill level of today's gymnasts? no. the fact that you can do her vaults does not impress anyone. at the time she was the best, so don't hate.
stellamilanese13 9 months ago
@stellamilanese13
I never said anything about hating. She's amazing. And I don't think you should be talking. What have you done that impresses anyone? That's right. NOTHING!
Oh, yeah and I just won Regionals and States in the hardest region and state on bars.
I hope we're done here because I really hate being snotty like this, although it seems like you're thing.
So, thanks. End of conversation.
kjilm6 9 months ago
@kjilm6 Well Carly, after a little bit of internet digging, I saw that at your precious regional competition, you placed 49th and the competition was at Bart Conner's gym. I wonder, did you so wonderfully perform Nadia's vault there, in front of her husband? Maybe even in front of her? That would be embarrassing.
stellamilanese13 9 months ago
@stellamilanese13 Really? Was that necessary? Funny that you are the one telling people to stop hating, yet you are the nastiest one of all.
TinyAva93 9 months ago
@stellamilanese13 Wow, you are really nasty. I don't think anyone was hating. Just noting the difference between what a "difficult" vault was back in Nadia's time, and what we consider difficult now. I can't do ANY vaults, so I AM impressed that kjilm6 can do Nadia's vaults. So don't speak for everybody.
TinyAva93 9 months ago
C'est clair que si une gymnaste fait ça au saut aux JO, elle ne sera pas sur le podium . La difficulté de l'époque n'est pas la même que maintenant.
TheGemo64 11 months ago
aha , I have level 6 gymnasts at my gym doing these vaults . :)
Kim1297 1 year ago
how many points? P.S this is the only event that she didn't get perfect ten.
creamyjj5 1 year ago
How Come The Scores Are Different Now a Days ?
Like There The Highest Is Ten, Right?
And Nastia And Shawn Get Like, 17.025 n All? :S :S :S
XxXHorseLoverXxX1 1 year ago
@XxXHorseLoverXxX1 I doubt anyone has every gotten over a 17 :/ And if you knew anything about gymnastics you would know that the system changed in 2006.
Gr33nkiwi 1 year ago
@Gr33nkiwi
Nastia Liukin scored a 17.050 and a 17.100 at the 2008 VISAS.
TwisterFlipp95 1 year ago
@TwisterFlipp95
USA execution judges don't mark as severely at worlds. I was talking about no one getting over a 17 at an international competition, seeing as some countries mark easier than others just at the national level.
(IE, America Cup (or SCAM) marks VERY easily with routines getting 9.0+ in execution (in the new code) when they should have received low 8.0's)
Gr33nkiwi 1 year ago
Okay someone please explain to me. I watched Shawn Johnson in the 2008 olympics and I saw her do what i think they called a 2 1/2 twist (something like that) and that looked 10x harder than what Nadia Comaneci (AKA the greatest gymnast of all time) did.
Stonymypony 2 years ago
the difficulty of vaults has changed over time this vault was done in 1976 and shawn johnson's vault was done in 2008 so of course shawn's vault was much harder but this vault was already very hard for nadia's time
698cher 2 years ago 23
Nobody dreamed that what she did was possible until *after* she did it. It's the natural evolution of sport: you first need a genius like Nadia to set a higher standard for those less gifted to achieve. In my mind, there is no doubt that if Nadia were a 6 year old watching Shawn Johnson in 2008, that in 2016 she would set an even-higher standard. Mark her brilliance not by what gymnasts have achieved since her performances, but by what was achieved before -- and nothing even compares.
morganthalervike 1 year ago
Plus the apparatus itself was more difficult to vault off then.
theurbansoul 1 year ago
@Stonymypony You mean you can't answer your own question?
MeanestCoachEver 1 year ago
@MeanestCoachEver Hey listen I don't know much about gymnastics so I was asking a question. If your going to be rude to someone that is not being mean but trying to learn more than your the mean one. Give me a break I didn't understand so like any curious person I asked a question.
Stonymypony 1 year ago
@Stonymypony All I did was ask you a question because I believe you could have figured it out on your own.
MeanestCoachEver 1 year ago
@MeanestCoachEver Well i believe you are wrong. I don't know much about gymnastics, so I asked a question that I believe was important to understanding gymnastics past and present.
Stonymypony 1 year ago
@Stonymypony The fact that this comment got 4 thumbs up makes me fear for the future of gymnastics. First of all, this was 32 years ago, and the vault was NOT as springing as it has been made, it was very solid unlike today where it has a cushion and a little spring. Then there's the shape of the vault. This vault was extremely dangerous and a few gymnasts have become paralyzed vaulting.
Gr33nkiwi 1 year ago
@Gr33nkiwi okay thanks for the info. I think that people gave it a thumbs up because they liked that i asked the question. Don't worry about the future of gymnastics. It will be fine.
Stonymypony 1 year ago
@Stonymypony The fastest typist isn't necessarily the best writer. Keep that in mind when comparing ANYBODY today with Nadia.
GymFloozie 1 year ago
@Stonymypony
Gymnastics has dramatically changed. The yurchenko style vault [Shawn] wasn't even invented until 1982. The vault was different --- different horse [it was around until 2000 --- only one woman did the 2.5 on the old horse] and the springboard had little springs.
TwisterFlipp95 1 year ago
@TwisterFlipp95 Amanar + Zamo did it didn't they? Sorry don't mean to spark an argument I'm just wondering.
EmilyRoseKid 1 year ago
and she went to the olympics for that?
mbmvcvdpzp 2 years ago
@mbmvcvdpzp no,,, she went to make the first Olympic ten in history!!! and seven times.
She is AMAZING BEST gymnast EVER
and guys do not be rude she was only 14 years old and that was really difficult at that time plus Shawn was 16 at her first olympics with a different vault and some things to make it plus
rgtzgmnst 10 months ago
olympic vaults are very low back then.. now there is people doing 2 1/2 twisting layouts .
gymnastics404 2 years ago 4
Is it just me, or is her form weird on the second one?
Great first vault for the time - and her age!
Elemarth 2 years ago
ya the vaults back then would have been horror compared to ours today!
tntboschee 2 years ago 2
her vaults were very easy but back then. they vaulted on pommel horses, plus her form was perfect
hames100 2 years ago 21
She was fourth...:(
Przemcio777 2 years ago 4
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thats very easy
GymnastClub 2 years ago
yea, but back then that kind of stuff was pretty hard and there vaults weren't as amazing as todays!
lolucifer 2 years ago 6
I think she ended up fifth--Nelli and Ludmilla were 1st and second, an East German 3d, and Teodora 4th
cherylannemason 2 years ago 3
No she ended 4th. Nelli 1st, Ludmila 2nd and the East German 3d. There was no tie for 1st, look the medal presentation is in youtube somewhere.
irafa2 2 years ago
An awful lot of people commenting on here know jack shit about gymnastics history....if they did then they would know how much gymnasts today are aided by equipment!!! i.e they would be doing "just this and that" probably!!!
garyj79 2 years ago 3
Wasn't the vault her only event at the '76 olympics that she didn't medal on?
violet46 2 years ago 3
Yes
gymnasticsloverxoxo 2 years ago
what was her score
hollisterhottie795 2 years ago
like a 9.85
gymnasticsloverxoxo 2 years ago
what happened on the 2nd vault? did she drop out?
CheyeXO 3 years ago
It's a handspring with a full turn. Besides the hop, nothing wrong with it.
wc213 3 years ago
i performed that same vault in level 8 last year!!! It seems crazy how much gymnastics changes over the years!
MeganIsCoolio 3 years ago 3
i know i preformed it in level 8 only it was tucked
tynnya 2 years ago
nadia is from romania...
prettyswish 4 years ago
this is awesome. i love this video. we ( laura and lisa ) are level 4s and we look up to Nadia as our role model. ( even though she's from Russia )
leealicesmith 4 years ago
ohh you! how can yo say nadie comaneci, the great nadia comaneci is from Russia!! omg! thats is incredible
luisafernandasanchez 4 years ago
duh everyone knows shes romanian. a fron HS half and half on pike of is so easy. i cant beleive it. look how much gymnastcis has changed.
eMthegymnast 4 years ago
I wonder how easy the Tsuk vault would be to teach today with the equipment they had back then?
TuesdayPillow 3 years ago
i hav that vault in my gym, and we do not work on tsuks or anything like that
vvroxxoxo 3 years ago
She's Romanian
KarenLovesGymnastics 3 years ago 2
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ahah bloody everyone would be going to the olympics!
kirky005 4 years ago
wow those vaults are like level 6 vaults these days... havent times chagned
kirky005 4 years ago
isnt that the truth! i wish i was in gymnastics back then
shaydra2006 4 years ago 2
i was watching a 60's gym montage earlier and all she done in the olympics was a half on and that was that!!!!
gymnasticsboi2007 4 years ago
I remember doing that second vault in the 90's! hahaha! yeah, I sucked!
puaalaaumoe 4 years ago
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those 2 vaults really sucked big time!!! what i dont understand is how come they could fill a whole olympic STADIUM with people who PAYED to watch these kindergarten jumps... and yet nowadays in my local meets. only friends and family come although we do much much harder stuff. i'm so glad old gymnastics died long time ago. whoever wants it back should do ballet classes!
PEACE !
lepetitpoulet 3 years ago
Don't forget how it was back then. They didn't have the same materials we do have now! We have a lot of extra things, so don't just think it was easy for them to do things like that... they didn't have advanced training or materials!
IngridGymnastics 3 years ago 5
that is a very good point actually. I didn't see it like that, i took for granted the ultra sophisticated material we have now... which propulses the gymnast in the air better as well as absord the shock of landing, so less injuries etc ...
lepetitpoulet 3 years ago 2
yeah that vault wasn't amazing, but I bet you couldn't dream of doing anything related to her two uneven bars routines or her floor work.
LittleCloserBoi 3 years ago 2
FX yes, a double twist or double tuck isnt hard nowadays with the special floors we got. But probably not back in the day with their equipment, and forget her UB skills, i wouldnt even dream of doing anything that cool.
She used to do hindorff and comaneci's so beautifully and effortlessly, which are still E skills today!
lepetitpoulet 3 years ago 4
That vault WAS amazing for it's day-few women were doing Tsukaharas even at the 1976 Games. Nelli Kim did the first full twist Tsuk at those Olympics, Nadia and Tourischeva did Tsuk variations-but most of the women were doing half twists on, half off or some variation of handsprings like the Yamashita. This was really the first Olympics where somersaulting vaults were done by women and it was revolutionary for its day-and awesome due to their old time equipment none of which was springloaded.
audie83 3 years ago 4
Her floor work actually wasn't all that great, her bars and BEAM work was great though.
gymnasticsloverxoxo 2 years ago
@gymnasticsloverxoxo Nadia was one of the very first to compete a double back ... unfortunately she could not show it in Montreal due to an ankle injury. She also had ended with a double twist after starting with a double back, so I would say she was a good floor worker.
MeanestCoachEver 1 year ago 2
@MeanestCoachEver Maria Filatova competed double backs before her.
gymnasticsloverxoxo 1 year ago