Recomiendo "Amada inmortal" con Gary Oldman como Beethoven. Otro RockStar de la época!!! "Somos del grupo Los Salieri de Charly y le robamos melodías a él ahahahaha"
Aunque la película es en su mayor parte inesacta, con un Mozart exageradamente vulgar y con una nobleza muy contemplativa hacia las conductas Mozart (en una época Aritocrática dura solo por cuestión de linajes). Sin embargo me gusto mucho verla por 2da vez después de muchos años. Los mitos no nacen radicalmente, la historia les va dando su lugar. Sino Amadeo hubiera sido sepultado con todos los honores y no tirado en una foza. ¿Y por qué no? Gracias por la peli, chau! ajajajaja!!!
While it is not known where exactly Mozart's body was buried, there is a memorial for him in Vienna near the heart of the city. It shows that what matters is that he and his work have, since his death, been immortalized forever in our world.
Despite the numerous deviations from historical truth, I still love this movie, so thank you for uploading :)
He was given what they call a pauper's funeral, I think. It's where when poor people die, they're just thrown in one big giant ditch because they can't afford a real funeral. Although Mozart made a lot of money on his operas, he was basically broke by the time he died, so they couldn't do anything. It's really sad.
Salieri; so successful, yet so mediocre. Mozart; so moderately successfull, yet such a genius. It would have made more sense if Mozart wanted to kill Salieri rather than the other way round, out of jealousy of Salier's undeserved success.
well u do realize that this is fiction. Mozart was beloved during his life as well. He also wasn't killed but died of illness. He wasn't hated like he was in this movie
This is the best finale in any movie I have seen. "Mediocrities everywhere, I absolve you". He is definitely my patron saint. In this age of rabid individualism, we could do well with more honest people like Salieri.
Well that just sucks. Mozart did nothing but, produce good quality work. The least Vienna could've done was give him a decent funeral, instead of dumping him in a mass grave. That is just indecent for a man who gave so much.
He just wasnt recognized at his time. Just like constanza said he was not certified musician. He was recognized and his achievements were recognized but not before his death.
@MultiDenise36 Yeah it is sad but at least he didn't have to grow old and remain being pushed around in a wheelchair while the rest of the world forgot about him. You die young you remain young.
there are at least a dozen works like the one used for the credits that give us a glimpse of a dimension of pure satisfaction with no static from this world's strife
the mozart was able to translate into music. in short mozart's best music proves
'god' is beyond this world yet we can be assured by such music that beyond
this dimension there is another where 'its all good.'
I enjoy seeing the stupid arguments that people have in the comment section it's funny that people argue over how something happened, or if they post something dumb the could watch that bit again till they understand
We are doing DON GIOVANNI next week. Most singers were using the Schirmer edition (we ended up calling it the Squirmer edition because of the many mistakes in it). So I went to the library here that housed a facsimile of Mozart's manuscript of the full score of DG (Nirvana!). I did see he crossed out a few bars of an aria (hence the fact that he made errors can be argued although I like to think of it as trial and error).
it pains me still to know he was tossed into paupers grave...why the hell don't they exhume him and give him what he deserves, surely with dna they can identify his remains. we enjoy his music even today, therfore he deserves more.
@DavidDietzII I'm pretty sure there are many problems with doing so. First of all, we have no idea where he was buried (unless we want to dig up an entire graveyard). Secondly, would it be possible to identify his remains from thousands of others? Surely doing all this would cost a lot of money. I personally prefer the ambiguity of not knowing - people can't "steal" the body this way. Besides, even if we did find it, it would look horrifying to most people, as it wasn't preserved in any way.
@Dreadnoughtification I remember being at St. Marx cemetery not too long ago. This is where Mozart was buried. I also remember seeing the supposed burial site of Mozart (who knows, there could be a shoemaker buried there). And how frightened I suddenly became realizing I was THE ONLY ONE there...and it was a clear sunny day.
Mozart's modest funeral did not reflect his standing with the public as a composer: memorial services and concerts in Vienna and Prague were well attended. Indeed, in the period immediately after his death, Mozart's reputation rose substantially: Solomon describes an "unprecedented wave of enthusiasm"
"Mozart was buried in a common grave, in accordance with contemporary Viennese custom, at the St. Marx Cemetery outside the city on 7 December. If, as later reports say, no mourners attended, that too is consistent with Viennese burial customs at the time; later Jahn (1856) wrote that Salieri, Süssmayr, van Swieten and two other musicians were present. The tale of a storm and snow is false; the day was calm and mild" - The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians
@liveyourlife495 I (swear I) don't mean any disrespect but maybe it's because they were not brought from Africa yet? I'm guessing, not very good in History...
Salieri was not so mediocre. He actually had a successful carreer and was quite influential. There is simply no composer that can be compared to Mozart. Nonetheless, the depiction of Salieri at the end in the insane asylum is as fictitious as it is insulting. I find that it detracts from the movie. It's like the movie was made about the very exaggerated mediocrity of Salieri instead of the real genius of Mozart. All for added impact. Like reality wasn't fantastic enough. Sad
And the moral of the tale: Religion drives you insane!
The character Salieri is the perfect example of this. He tried to defeat an omnipotent, all knowing being (God) which is impossible if it existed and similarly impossible if it doesn't exist. Only an insane person would try to do it.
@marianmus so right.... some thing almost similar happened with Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison, the second one got all the fame....the first one ...almost none
Sometimes what we hear, we cannot assimilate. We hear it, but it does nothing more than enter hour heads. Music must go into our hearts or or it is not ever to move us. A genius is nothing more or less than the touch of God upon one's soul. Salieri could not allow a better or bow to the hand of God upon a greater, so he destroyed the light. It didn't matter than Mozart was silly or immature, it mattered only that God's hand had entered his heart and that he was driven to create perfection.
I agree. He was ahead of his time. It was a few decades after his death that he became truly popular and idolized. It was only then people understood what Mozart was all about. It was like van Gogh, didn't sell a painting during his life, years after his suicide however....
@mapulangred And also because he was in so much debt that his family couldn't afford a "decent burial." I think his being buried in an unmarked grave is one of the few historically accurate things in a mostly inaccurate--but still wonderful--movie.
@mapulangred Actually it's because families who couldn't afford it, like Mozart's couldn't afford a proper burial therefore he was buried in a mass grave along with those who's families couldn't afford one as well. Marianmus is also right, they couldn't identify a genius.
@mapulangred Actually, it wasn't a common grave. It had been declared by the Emperor that due to cemeteries being overcrowded inside the city walls, that all deceased had to be buried in mass graves outside the cities. It wasn't because he couldn't afford one, it was just the custom and law of the time.
@mapulangred Plus, on a more practical note, his family obviously couldn't afford a proper burial for him....that's how it worked in those days, sad as it is.
@dissentrix Not now, no hence me using the word "old". It was back then however. Not only in Vienna but elsewhere. As the New grove dictionary of music and musicians describes it: "Mozart was buried in a common grave, in accordance with contemporary Viennese custom, at the St. Marx Cemetery outside the city on 7 December."
@CiaranDavidAinsworth Huh ?? Well, you've stumped me there. If the New Grove is your source, I can't really argue, but I was always pretty sure the fact that the grave was common had more to do with Mozart's lack of financial means.
@dissentrix I would agree. He didn't leave enough money for a better grave and so he was buried in a way similar to a public health funeral nowadays.In Vienna at the time that happened to be a public grave.
@mapulangred because some people like you will never accept he was a prodigy... One doesn't have to be buried in a special grave to be considered prodigy
@mapulangred Actually, he was buried in a mass grave b/c the King of Austria at the time (except royalty and the clergy) buried in mass graves due to a disease spreading around the area.
@mapulangred This is because he died in poverty. His family did not have enough money to buy him a single grave. Because he was so famous, his common grave was marked as him being in it, but then he was moved, and they lost track of him. He is still in the graveyard where he was originally buried, but the exact location of his body is unknown. Now, there is a memorial. If you google "Mozart's grave" and look to images, it will show you pictures of his current memorials.
@mapulangred At the time Mozart died, the authorities were trying to eliminate elaborate crypts owned by the aristrocracy. Everyone at the time, except those who had private estates, had their dead buried in a common grave, and the site rotated in the cemetery as the bodies decomposed and the land re-available to used for bodies. It had absolutely nothing to do with Mozart or who he was.
@mapulangred because he was broke. don't matter how smart you are, if you aint got no money, aint nobody cares. we live in a material world. so sad. so sad.
Mozart was at least on of the greatest composer if not the best on the world but though, noone knows where his grave is. Which means that he lays somewhere.
How ungrateful we are. He gave us wonderful music and we don't even know his grave or how he actually died.
I love that film.
It's not 100%ly true, but it makes us think. Well, his music is it what makes us emotional, or at least me.
it doesn't matter how good someone is, or if they take their gift for granted and ungrateful or whatever. you shouldn't try to prove to the world your talent is amazing, just prove to yourself.
@fragilecoffee90 Are you a musician?? If you are and can honestly believe that either you need more competition or you've reached some higher level. I'm a Violinist and how I feel about what a play is in direct correlation with how the world see's it. Musicians don't like playing with their instruments, they like playing their instruments well. But its the world who decides what "well" means.
Da Ponte, the librettist for The Marriage of Figaro and Don Giovanni, was also buried in a pauper's grave after trying to be a grocer in New York.
Chopin, during the last year of his life, requested Mozart's Requiem be played at his funeral mass. He found no inspiration and wrote nothing during that period, and it tormented him.
Constanze tried to get someone to complete the Requiem. One of his students did his best, from Mozart's notes. One wonders what might have been.
This mocha was brilliant. I am a very huge Mozart fan and seeing this movie made me appreciate him even more. And does anyone know if Tom Hulce did his own piano woke in the movie? Or was it someone else?
@Forevermoonlight13 From what I have read, he actually learnt to play the harpsichord/ piano a bit so it looked like he was playing the music, even though I suspect it was dubbed. Absolute genius of a film
@wildhias No, Mozart died during a cholera epidemic and there were so many bodies to deal with that many people were buried quickly in a common grave. Sad but true.
DAYUM i really wanna try and go back in time and save mozart or something. i know it's fantasy like but to hell with it! stupid salieri, giving mozart so much trouble. psh he doesn't even deserve a capital letter for his stupid name. i love to play piano and i have NEVER in my life heard of him. i wish mozart lived to the fullest, life is so unfair.
@AngelBaby4U100 I like your idea. Perhaps a doctor from this century goes back in time to save him so he could finish the Requiem and compose more great symphonies and operas. What a great fantasy.
Funny part about Salieri's angry with God. There is no God. Just this short time on earth, so you better make it count, cuz after this it's over. :) :(
I can really feel for Salieri. I labor hard every day for my dreams. I only sleep 4 or 5 hours a day and still it doesn't seem to be enough. I can literally "feel" the limit of my ability... Happiness is when a man only does what he must and wishes for what he may.
I really love Salieri! I relate to him a lot. It's difficult working hard for your dream, giving it your all. Then some hotshot, who is simply better than you and ungrateful for their success, steals that dream away from you. It's like a slap in the face. Whenever I hear Salieri speak those last words, I know exactly that 'mediocrity' he speaks of. I actually take comfort in knowing I ain't the only struggling artist out there lol.
@4theboard I didn't realize web lingo was prohibited from comments/discussions, or that the simple insert of a 'lol' was a big no-no. :/ If that's all you have to say or add, then I'll just end with a: ^__________^
@dantespimp - The thing about Salieri is that he clearly was NOT a Mediocrity. If he had been then he wouldn't have achieved the Success he did. He was very Talented, and even though Mozart was gifted it seems that his own Frustration came from the idea that he didn't have a proper childhood. The part where Salieri as a Kid is playing, and Mozart is performing, Salieri envied what Mozart did as a Kid, but I guess Mozart may have preferred playing with Kids instead and would have envied Salieri
@soeffingwhat I didn't think Salieri was mediocre either. However, one *does* feel mediocre when someone who is younger/fresher comes along and is simplier better at the craft. It's also depressing when you work your butt off but can never be as talented as that person. Also, keep in mind what Salieri deemed as 'success'. *We* think he was successful, but he viewed success as his music living on, which, sadly, it doesn't. We remember Mozart and *his* music today. But not Salieri's.
@dantespimp - I agree, however I think its good that there are now Recordings of Salieri's Music available to Listen to today, even if its still not as popular as Mozart, its great that his Works were never lost over the Years. That would make me think that many must still have found his Music compelling even then, and his Work was kept and preserved after he died. I'm not into Opera at all, but Classical is immortal, so I have a great deal of respect for it.
@soeffingwhat I get what you're saying and think it's great his recordings are out there. However, I argue (based on his dialogue here) that Salieri didn't see himself as successful. There are a hundred other musicians who have their music online as well, but most of us *still* don't know there names, sadly.
I'm not saying Salieri *wasn't* successful. I think he was too! :) He was brilliant. But from *his* perspective, based on THIS scene, he saw himself as mediocre when compared to Mozart.
You're right, it's powdered lime. However, I'm not sure, but I thought they used it to prevent spreading of diseases, due to the decomposition, especially for common graves or, other circumstances where a lot of corpses are not beeing buried in time(wars, pandemics, natural disasters as earthquakes, tsunamis, floods, volcanic eruptions etc. )
Doesn’t this priest have anything what so ever to say? I mean I was raised a catholic and priests are allowed to make comments during confessions yet this man hears a confession which takes up a whole day yet says almost nothing during the whole thing.
salieri may not have been a great composer but he was in the opinion of many a a great teacher as his pupils included the likes of Beethoven, Liszt and Shubert who were hardly mediocrities
Recomiendo "Amada inmortal" con Gary Oldman como Beethoven. Otro RockStar de la época!!! "Somos del grupo Los Salieri de Charly y le robamos melodías a él ahahahaha"
dio666dm 18 hours ago
Aunque la película es en su mayor parte inesacta, con un Mozart exageradamente vulgar y con una nobleza muy contemplativa hacia las conductas Mozart (en una época Aritocrática dura solo por cuestión de linajes). Sin embargo me gusto mucho verla por 2da vez después de muchos años. Los mitos no nacen radicalmente, la historia les va dando su lugar. Sino Amadeo hubiera sido sepultado con todos los honores y no tirado en una foza. ¿Y por qué no? Gracias por la peli, chau! ajajajaja!!!
dio666dm 19 hours ago
aaaaaaaaaaa
dio666dm 19 hours ago
4 people have been absolved.
davidjamessheets 20 hours ago
This music is almost too beautiful for one heart to take. That's why I cry like a baby every time I hear it.
Nacho66 5 days ago
Thank you so much for uploading this wonderful movie for us.:) You're awesome.
SaoLaos2000 6 days ago 2
This is very sad sense when he die....make me cry too:(
SaoLaos2000 6 days ago
While it is not known where exactly Mozart's body was buried, there is a memorial for him in Vienna near the heart of the city. It shows that what matters is that he and his work have, since his death, been immortalized forever in our world.
Despite the numerous deviations from historical truth, I still love this movie, so thank you for uploading :)
MissLink 6 days ago
that movie is amazing, i saw the funeral scene 100times and i still have to cry
captain2ahab 1 week ago
Thank you so much for uploading this magnificent movie!!!!
PianoMan53100 1 week ago
0:53 Ewww ... Is that someone's hand sticking out bottom right? I never noticed that before o.O
rossyxan 1 week ago
Thank you so much for providing the title to all the wonderful music! And for the spanish subtitles!
iheartyoutuification 1 week ago in playlist Amadeus, de Milos Forman
He was given what they call a pauper's funeral, I think. It's where when poor people die, they're just thrown in one big giant ditch because they can't afford a real funeral. Although Mozart made a lot of money on his operas, he was basically broke by the time he died, so they couldn't do anything. It's really sad.
TheRawmenBby 2 weeks ago
I can't thank you enough for uploading this sublime movie. And you have even shown the name of the music.
What a classic, and you have brought it back from dusty memory.
rayhdleb 2 weeks ago
*Sigh*... Sad to see such a wonderful composer to be considered as a waste at the grave... ='(
Dante121892 2 weeks ago
Salieri; so successful, yet so mediocre. Mozart; so moderately successfull, yet such a genius. It would have made more sense if Mozart wanted to kill Salieri rather than the other way round, out of jealousy of Salier's undeserved success.
93rardo 2 weeks ago
gracias! muchas gracias!
pupe26 2 weeks ago
Everytime i see this movie, well, its a rush of emotions, So real, i cannot be tired seeing it, simple beautiful
yamipablo 2 weeks ago
@yamipablo I know, I will also allways love this movie. The movie is about classical music, but the movie itself has also become a classic.
93rardo 2 weeks ago
LIKEEE FOR MOZART!
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Tjolahoppification 3 weeks ago
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Tjolahoppification 3 weeks ago
genial simplemente genial gracias XD
astarot665 1 month ago
4 dislikes!??? What.... are those the people who can't hear the music AND see the movie with subtitles!?
austrailianpirate 1 month ago
well u do realize that this is fiction. Mozart was beloved during his life as well. He also wasn't killed but died of illness. He wasn't hated like he was in this movie
someguy666ZOMG 1 month ago
that's all they could give him?! so that's how he's buried up tilll now?????
slamer2000 1 month ago
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ntmiamttc92 1 month ago
Great movie
25drcn 1 month ago
This is the best finale in any movie I have seen. "Mediocrities everywhere, I absolve you". He is definitely my patron saint. In this age of rabid individualism, we could do well with more honest people like Salieri.
kamranii 2 months ago in playlist Amadeus, de Milos Forman
Well that just sucks. Mozart did nothing but, produce good quality work. The least Vienna could've done was give him a decent funeral, instead of dumping him in a mass grave. That is just indecent for a man who gave so much.
MultiDenise36 2 months ago 17
He just wasnt recognized at his time. Just like constanza said he was not certified musician. He was recognized and his achievements were recognized but not before his death.
mabeg11 3 weeks ago
@MultiDenise36
That was just the custom for burials. He was very popular and exalted after his death otherwise.
afghanforlife 3 weeks ago
@MultiDenise36 I strongly agree... oh, and what depression it brought when I seen such sight of his body being dumped.... ='(
Dante121892 2 weeks ago
@MultiDenise36 Yeah it is sad but at least he didn't have to grow old and remain being pushed around in a wheelchair while the rest of the world forgot about him. You die young you remain young.
SweetFateofFortunes 2 days ago
That poor priest looks a bit traumatized by the end of the film.
evilgourd 2 months ago 2
Maybe he had given all he had to give: who knows?
Plymouthpilot 2 months ago
there are at least a dozen works like the one used for the credits that give us a glimpse of a dimension of pure satisfaction with no static from this world's strife
the mozart was able to translate into music. in short mozart's best music proves
'god' is beyond this world yet we can be assured by such music that beyond
this dimension there is another where 'its all good.'
deja2057 3 months ago
@deja2057 you're stupid
TheTehpwnshow 1 month ago
I enjoy seeing the stupid arguments that people have in the comment section it's funny that people argue over how something happened, or if they post something dumb the could watch that bit again till they understand
liamnish56 3 months ago
Gravedigger: "Dang it, I dropped my shovel into the pit! Now I'll have to go get it...."
Dreadnoughtification 3 months ago
at the end there's the laught ... ='D
CandyLoveSteven 3 months ago
I loved mozart's laugh at the very end..tring to say remember me!
Galandriel89 3 months ago
@Galandriel89 And having the last laugh at Salieri!
<3.
LitLBirdLitLBird 4 weeks ago
CARNAL GRACIAS POR SUBIRLA ME SIRVIO 8E MUCHO GRACIAS
juanpamen40 3 months ago
We are doing DON GIOVANNI next week. Most singers were using the Schirmer edition (we ended up calling it the Squirmer edition because of the many mistakes in it). So I went to the library here that housed a facsimile of Mozart's manuscript of the full score of DG (Nirvana!). I did see he crossed out a few bars of an aria (hence the fact that he made errors can be argued although I like to think of it as trial and error).
MiraFransuccess50on 3 months ago
woah... freaky O.o 3:37 XD
startrekgirl258 3 months ago 2
it pains me still to know he was tossed into paupers grave...why the hell don't they exhume him and give him what he deserves, surely with dna they can identify his remains. we enjoy his music even today, therfore he deserves more.
DavidDietzII 3 months ago
@DavidDietzII I'm pretty sure there are many problems with doing so. First of all, we have no idea where he was buried (unless we want to dig up an entire graveyard). Secondly, would it be possible to identify his remains from thousands of others? Surely doing all this would cost a lot of money. I personally prefer the ambiguity of not knowing - people can't "steal" the body this way. Besides, even if we did find it, it would look horrifying to most people, as it wasn't preserved in any way.
Dreadnoughtification 3 months ago
@Dreadnoughtification I remember being at St. Marx cemetery not too long ago. This is where Mozart was buried. I also remember seeing the supposed burial site of Mozart (who knows, there could be a shoemaker buried there). And how frightened I suddenly became realizing I was THE ONLY ONE there...and it was a clear sunny day.
MiraFransuccess50on 3 months ago
how did mozart die?
mjloverforever100 3 months ago
@mjloverforever100 from living too fast...and tuberculosis
desastermaster2010 3 months ago
great movie i enjoyed it, thanks for uploading it!
TheJosephValentino 3 months ago 2
Mozart's modest funeral did not reflect his standing with the public as a composer: memorial services and concerts in Vienna and Prague were well attended. Indeed, in the period immediately after his death, Mozart's reputation rose substantially: Solomon describes an "unprecedented wave of enthusiasm"
Mike81262 3 months ago
"Mozart was buried in a common grave, in accordance with contemporary Viennese custom, at the St. Marx Cemetery outside the city on 7 December. If, as later reports say, no mourners attended, that too is consistent with Viennese burial customs at the time; later Jahn (1856) wrote that Salieri, Süssmayr, van Swieten and two other musicians were present. The tale of a storm and snow is false; the day was calm and mild" - The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians
Mike81262 3 months ago
Great movie.. But where were all the people of color in Vienna? Movie seemed to only focus on vanilla ppl. Kinda short sided, if you ask me.
liveyourlife495 4 months ago
@liveyourlife495 I (swear I) don't mean any disrespect but maybe it's because they were not brought from Africa yet? I'm guessing, not very good in History...
kevico2 4 months ago
Salieri was not so mediocre. He actually had a successful carreer and was quite influential. There is simply no composer that can be compared to Mozart. Nonetheless, the depiction of Salieri at the end in the insane asylum is as fictitious as it is insulting. I find that it detracts from the movie. It's like the movie was made about the very exaggerated mediocrity of Salieri instead of the real genius of Mozart. All for added impact. Like reality wasn't fantastic enough. Sad
pchantreau 4 months ago
And the moral of the tale: Religion drives you insane!
The character Salieri is the perfect example of this. He tried to defeat an omnipotent, all knowing being (God) which is impossible if it existed and similarly impossible if it doesn't exist. Only an insane person would try to do it.
Praiosrondra 4 months ago 2
Mozart, gênio da humanidade.
Salieri, apenas Salieri.
Armando1735 4 months ago
why was salieri in an asylum
LaurieTombRaiderFan 4 months ago
@LaurieTombRaiderFan cause he tryed to kill himself
jasongoesBOOM 4 months ago
If Mozart was a prodigy, then why is he buried in a common grave?
mapulangred 5 months ago
@mapulangred Because sometimes people aren't able to identify genius, he was too much for them, too difficult to understand
marianmus 5 months ago 29
...and he probably didn't save money for times like this....
mpmg67 4 months ago
@marianmus so right.... some thing almost similar happened with Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison, the second one got all the fame....the first one ...almost none
themariusnos 4 months ago
@marianmus Mozart died pennyless. A pauper's grave was all they could afford.
LilGrey456 3 months ago
Sometimes what we hear, we cannot assimilate. We hear it, but it does nothing more than enter hour heads. Music must go into our hearts or or it is not ever to move us. A genius is nothing more or less than the touch of God upon one's soul. Salieri could not allow a better or bow to the hand of God upon a greater, so he destroyed the light. It didn't matter than Mozart was silly or immature, it mattered only that God's hand had entered his heart and that he was driven to create perfection.
waynocook53 3 months ago
@waynocook53 you're an idiot
TheTehpwnshow 1 month ago
@marianmus No, it's because that's just what they did back then.
It's ridiculous to claim that Mozart was unappreciated in his time.
skootties 2 months ago
@marianmus
I agree. He was ahead of his time. It was a few decades after his death that he became truly popular and idolized. It was only then people understood what Mozart was all about. It was like van Gogh, didn't sell a painting during his life, years after his suicide however....
93rardo 1 month ago
@mapulangred And also because he was in so much debt that his family couldn't afford a "decent burial." I think his being buried in an unmarked grave is one of the few historically accurate things in a mostly inaccurate--but still wonderful--movie.
beardo373 4 months ago
@mapulangred Actually it's because families who couldn't afford it, like Mozart's couldn't afford a proper burial therefore he was buried in a mass grave along with those who's families couldn't afford one as well. Marianmus is also right, they couldn't identify a genius.
LifeandDeath97 4 months ago
@mapulangred - following what marianmus said, I believe that was true, and Mozart's Genius was only truly appreciated sometime after his Death.
soeffingwhat 4 months ago
@mapulangred He was in debt - In Austria you pay every year for your grave plot and it was tooo much so off to the pauper grave he went...
HeidelbergSoprano 4 months ago
@mapulangred Actually, it wasn't a common grave. It had been declared by the Emperor that due to cemeteries being overcrowded inside the city walls, that all deceased had to be buried in mass graves outside the cities. It wasn't because he couldn't afford one, it was just the custom and law of the time.
Lieblingsfachful 4 months ago
@mapulangred Plus, on a more practical note, his family obviously couldn't afford a proper burial for him....that's how it worked in those days, sad as it is.
dfjoubert 4 months ago
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Ghettolarious 4 months ago
@mapulangred He pretty much died a pauper. Didn't have enough money for a proper burial.
scarletsimi87 4 months ago
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Re.: @mapulangred "If Mozart was a prodigy, then why is he buried in a common grave?"
The same way Jesus died on a cross.
"Mediocres' everywhere". "forgive them father for they know not what they do", "bla bla bla"... the story keeps on repeating.
Ace
aceofspades02 4 months ago
@mapulangred Old Viennese custom.
CiaranDavidAinsworth 3 months ago
@CiaranDavidAinsworth No it isn't.
dissentrix 3 months ago
@dissentrix Not now, no hence me using the word "old". It was back then however. Not only in Vienna but elsewhere. As the New grove dictionary of music and musicians describes it: "Mozart was buried in a common grave, in accordance with contemporary Viennese custom, at the St. Marx Cemetery outside the city on 7 December."
CiaranDavidAinsworth 3 months ago
@CiaranDavidAinsworth Huh ?? Well, you've stumped me there. If the New Grove is your source, I can't really argue, but I was always pretty sure the fact that the grave was common had more to do with Mozart's lack of financial means.
dissentrix 3 months ago
@dissentrix I would agree. He didn't leave enough money for a better grave and so he was buried in a way similar to a public health funeral nowadays.In Vienna at the time that happened to be a public grave.
CiaranDavidAinsworth 3 months ago
@CiaranDavidAinsworth Oh, okay. I see what you mean and stand corrected.
dissentrix 3 months ago
@mapulangred because some people like you will never accept he was a prodigy... One doesn't have to be buried in a special grave to be considered prodigy
accesskb 3 months ago
@mapulangred Actually, he was buried in a mass grave b/c the King of Austria at the time (except royalty and the clergy) buried in mass graves due to a disease spreading around the area.
TheYoungTurds1 3 months ago
@mapulangred Being of sound body and mind, Mozart spent all his money while he was still living.
zorak1997 3 months ago
@mapulangred he spent all of his money on alcohol .
Lindseylovesearth 3 months ago
@mapulangred This is because he died in poverty. His family did not have enough money to buy him a single grave. Because he was so famous, his common grave was marked as him being in it, but then he was moved, and they lost track of him. He is still in the graveyard where he was originally buried, but the exact location of his body is unknown. Now, there is a memorial. If you google "Mozart's grave" and look to images, it will show you pictures of his current memorials.
wolflover8765 2 months ago 2
@mapulangred that and he was poor at the time he died
AngelJuliet 2 months ago in playlist More videos from marianmus
@AngelJuliet A romantic figure, like Lorenzaccio of Musset he wasn't given "pas même un tombeau".
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elenore88 1 month ago
@mapulangred At the time Mozart died, the authorities were trying to eliminate elaborate crypts owned by the aristrocracy. Everyone at the time, except those who had private estates, had their dead buried in a common grave, and the site rotated in the cemetery as the bodies decomposed and the land re-available to used for bodies. It had absolutely nothing to do with Mozart or who he was.
me76640 1 month ago
@mapulangred
me76640 1 month ago
@mapulangred because he was broke. don't matter how smart you are, if you aint got no money, aint nobody cares. we live in a material world. so sad. so sad.
futuremtt 1 month ago 7
@mapulangred Because it was the Tradition in Viena at that time
ML678v 1 month ago
Salieri, apenas medíocre. Mozart, humano e gênio da humanidade.
Armando1735 5 months ago
Salieri is Mozarts best Friend
madara435 5 months ago
@madara435 This movie's Mozart sure thought so--sigh.
:(,
<3.
LitLBirdLitLBird 4 weeks ago
Mozart was at least on of the greatest composer if not the best on the world but though, noone knows where his grave is. Which means that he lays somewhere.
How ungrateful we are. He gave us wonderful music and we don't even know his grave or how he actually died.
I love that film.
It's not 100%ly true, but it makes us think. Well, his music is it what makes us emotional, or at least me.
TheScientist95 5 months ago
Where did 17/18 go?
TokyoFreeze79 5 months ago
it doesn't matter how good someone is, or if they take their gift for granted and ungrateful or whatever. you shouldn't try to prove to the world your talent is amazing, just prove to yourself.
fragilecoffee90 5 months ago
@fragilecoffee90 Are you a musician?? If you are and can honestly believe that either you need more competition or you've reached some higher level. I'm a Violinist and how I feel about what a play is in direct correlation with how the world see's it. Musicians don't like playing with their instruments, they like playing their instruments well. But its the world who decides what "well" means.
death0personified 2 months ago
Interesting facts:
Da Ponte, the librettist for The Marriage of Figaro and Don Giovanni, was also buried in a pauper's grave after trying to be a grocer in New York.
Chopin, during the last year of his life, requested Mozart's Requiem be played at his funeral mass. He found no inspiration and wrote nothing during that period, and it tormented him.
Constanze tried to get someone to complete the Requiem. One of his students did his best, from Mozart's notes. One wonders what might have been.
ExZonie 5 months ago
"Mediocrities everywhere! I absolve you all!"
Probably the best ending line of a movie ever.
gpeddino 5 months ago 2
@gpeddino ohh yes because he felt he was the biggest of all mediocrities umm :&
Mspuchunguita03 5 months ago
This mocha was brilliant. I am a very huge Mozart fan and seeing this movie made me appreciate him even more. And does anyone know if Tom Hulce did his own piano woke in the movie? Or was it someone else?
Forevermoonlight13 5 months ago
@Forevermoonlight13 From what I have read, he actually learnt to play the harpsichord/ piano a bit so it looked like he was playing the music, even though I suspect it was dubbed. Absolute genius of a film
hostnottingham 5 months ago 2
also the pauper buryial of Mozart is probably a narrative which fits to the myth that is Mozart -Mozart probably had a dignified normal buryal
wildhias 6 months ago
@wildhias No, Mozart died during a cholera epidemic and there were so many bodies to deal with that many people were buried quickly in a common grave. Sad but true.
ExZonie 5 months ago
an oscar to the guy who played the priest!
rongovrongov 6 months ago
I love the priest in this. He slowly deflates throughout the movie to the final scene where Salieri tells him he'll speak to God in his behalf. WOW.
lolaalex59 6 months ago 9
The Romanza of the Piano Concert in D-Minor KV 266 is so adequate, especially the transition at 3:40! This Piece is like composed for the credits!
BiancoSanGiovanni 6 months ago
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BiancoSanGiovanni 6 months ago
First Time watching the movie.... Outstanding
nicelegsbabe 6 months ago
look on the bright side salieri atleast ur alive to enjoy beethovens music
SoundwaveSuperior373 6 months ago
sad
Markthompson123 6 months ago in playlist Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart bio
cheesy film
andresrojas22 6 months ago
@andresrojas22 your comment is cheesy
ideatalento 6 months ago
F. Murray Abraham was brilliant!
truediabolique69 7 months ago
what is that place at 3:27?
Oasix21 7 months ago
@Oasix21 insane asylum were Salieri stayed
AsianPolarBear98 7 months ago
@AsianPolarBear98 Insane asylum in the film but it's really some War Museum they just converted it for the film.
LilGrey456 7 months ago
what happened to the 17/18 part of this? i can't find it for some odd reason.
usacenice 7 months ago
brillanter Film!
aber ich bezweifle, dass Mozart im Massengrab für die Armen endete.
flaminia5 7 months ago
@flaminia5 Es ist leider wahr.
milnoid 7 months ago
@milnoid so weit ich weiß, besteht es einen begründeten Zweifel;
flaminia5 7 months ago
DAYUM i really wanna try and go back in time and save mozart or something. i know it's fantasy like but to hell with it! stupid salieri, giving mozart so much trouble. psh he doesn't even deserve a capital letter for his stupid name. i love to play piano and i have NEVER in my life heard of him. i wish mozart lived to the fullest, life is so unfair.
AngelBaby4U100 7 months ago
@AngelBaby4U100 I like your idea. Perhaps a doctor from this century goes back in time to save him so he could finish the Requiem and compose more great symphonies and operas. What a great fantasy.
pianotuner101 4 months ago 8
Why is there a rag around old Salieri?
counterstrifekid 8 months ago
@counterstrifekid If you're referring to that rag around his neck, it's because he tried to slit his throat at the beginning of the film.
LLWChampion 8 months ago in playlist mozart amadeus
i love how the story is told by salieri but you're on mozarts side through the whole movie
thosenightswrong 8 months ago 9
@thosenightswrong nope, not me, i was on salieri's side.
juliaaw0 4 months ago
@juliaaw0 ooouuuuhhhhh xDD
thosenightswrong 4 months ago
BRILLIANT ending!!! :D
"I absolve you!"
emperatriz1688 8 months ago
Funny part about Salieri's angry with God. There is no God. Just this short time on earth, so you better make it count, cuz after this it's over. :) :(
aurosne 8 months ago
@aurosne There might even be a god. But it's the most cruel thing on earth. (Ödön von Horvàth)
buddha30001 8 months ago
@buddha30001 actually I find human nature is more to blame. it's called free will.
elenore88 7 months ago
E. Murray Abraham es un gran actor
SuperFrencha 8 months ago
I think the guy who was chained to the wall was my high school physics teacher.
Midnightrambler3760 8 months ago 2
long live f.murray abraham!
644petko 8 months ago
Wasn't there a scene in the film where Salieri reveals that his throat has been cut?
cooliobrando 8 months ago
thats... so sad, and amazing at the same time..
TSUhiSAne 8 months ago
I can really feel for Salieri. I labor hard every day for my dreams. I only sleep 4 or 5 hours a day and still it doesn't seem to be enough. I can literally "feel" the limit of my ability... Happiness is when a man only does what he must and wishes for what he may.
dinhnguyen92 8 months ago
thanks for the upload i enjoyed the movie
DayTripper1025 8 months ago
I really love Salieri! I relate to him a lot. It's difficult working hard for your dream, giving it your all. Then some hotshot, who is simply better than you and ungrateful for their success, steals that dream away from you. It's like a slap in the face. Whenever I hear Salieri speak those last words, I know exactly that 'mediocrity' he speaks of. I actually take comfort in knowing I ain't the only struggling artist out there lol.
dantespimp 8 months ago 20
@dantespimp the fact that you say "lol" at the end of your statement makes you lose all credibility
4theboard 5 months ago
@4theboard I didn't realize web lingo was prohibited from comments/discussions, or that the simple insert of a 'lol' was a big no-no. :/ If that's all you have to say or add, then I'll just end with a: ^__________^
dantespimp 5 months ago
@dantespimp no...i prefer a good ol' pat on the back
4theboard 5 months ago
@4theboard *offers a good ole' pat on the back as well as a warm batch of home-baked cookies* Yummy! XD
dantespimp 5 months ago
@dantespimp mmmmmmmmmm...*imitates gargling homer simpson noise*...cookies
4theboard 5 months ago
@dantespimp - The thing about Salieri is that he clearly was NOT a Mediocrity. If he had been then he wouldn't have achieved the Success he did. He was very Talented, and even though Mozart was gifted it seems that his own Frustration came from the idea that he didn't have a proper childhood. The part where Salieri as a Kid is playing, and Mozart is performing, Salieri envied what Mozart did as a Kid, but I guess Mozart may have preferred playing with Kids instead and would have envied Salieri
soeffingwhat 4 months ago
@soeffingwhat I didn't think Salieri was mediocre either. However, one *does* feel mediocre when someone who is younger/fresher comes along and is simplier better at the craft. It's also depressing when you work your butt off but can never be as talented as that person. Also, keep in mind what Salieri deemed as 'success'. *We* think he was successful, but he viewed success as his music living on, which, sadly, it doesn't. We remember Mozart and *his* music today. But not Salieri's.
dantespimp 4 months ago
@dantespimp - I agree, however I think its good that there are now Recordings of Salieri's Music available to Listen to today, even if its still not as popular as Mozart, its great that his Works were never lost over the Years. That would make me think that many must still have found his Music compelling even then, and his Work was kept and preserved after he died. I'm not into Opera at all, but Classical is immortal, so I have a great deal of respect for it.
soeffingwhat 3 months ago
@soeffingwhat I get what you're saying and think it's great his recordings are out there. However, I argue (based on his dialogue here) that Salieri didn't see himself as successful. There are a hundred other musicians who have their music online as well, but most of us *still* don't know there names, sadly.
I'm not saying Salieri *wasn't* successful. I think he was too! :) He was brilliant. But from *his* perspective, based on THIS scene, he saw himself as mediocre when compared to Mozart.
dantespimp 3 months ago
@dantespimp Successful does not mean not mediocre!
Take a look at most politicians, actors, one-hit wonders--CEOs!
=D,
<3!
LitLBirdLitLBird 4 weeks ago
@TheDannySavory
You're right, it's powdered lime. However, I'm not sure, but I thought they used it to prevent spreading of diseases, due to the decomposition, especially for common graves or, other circumstances where a lot of corpses are not beeing buried in time(wars, pandemics, natural disasters as earthquakes, tsunamis, floods, volcanic eruptions etc. )
DonAlfonso63 9 months ago
A brilliant end to a brilliant movie
searchengines4fun 9 months ago
Who are those people at the end.
counterstrifekid 9 months ago
What a genius film! So well constructed and deserving of every Oscar!
MDkid1 9 months ago
I didn't get the whole grave part... what was with the white powdery stuff ???
malindizoo 9 months ago
OMG i found myself crying badly poor mozart :(((((
shadow8ish 9 months ago
very good interesting move =D
mrbeady9 9 months ago
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truvianni 9 months ago
Doesn’t this priest have anything what so ever to say? I mean I was raised a catholic and priests are allowed to make comments during confessions yet this man hears a confession which takes up a whole day yet says almost nothing during the whole thing.
truvianni 10 months ago
@truvianni he's dumbfounded...... speechless.... i mean what can you say to that
KennyParkz 9 months ago
@KennyParkz He explain to him that God was not really trying to torture him or tell him how he sees God or something at different points
truvianni 9 months ago
@truvianni That's why Salieri absolved the priest. For being a mediocrity.
GregHuismans 5 months ago
salieri may not have been a great composer but he was in the opinion of many a a great teacher as his pupils included the likes of Beethoven, Liszt and Shubert who were hardly mediocrities
truvianni 10 months ago