(cont'd). In addition, insteadof using silk, I used a cotton/linen japanese fabric blend for my cloth. It seems the methyl had soaked through it in some parts, creating blotches of shiney spots. Did I not let the MC sit n enough, or was it not thick enough? Can i clean these off? Otherwise the cloth and paper came together and dried beautifully.
Thank you for this video! I had a few questions though as I find very little to no information on how to paperback on the internet. I used printmaking paper I found at the store that wasn't made of kozo, but some kind of philippines fiber. I used the methyl cellulose just after I prepared it (maybe I should've waited longer? I noticed it was still expanding in the bowl half an hour later). The paper might have been saturated too much, it seemed like slightly rough handling would've torn it apart
Thhe Methyl Cellulose should be mixed 1/8C of MC to 1cup of water. Allow it to thicken for at least 20 minutes. That ratio is perfect for the silk and thai mulberry, When I size raw silks and cotton or linen fabric, depending on the thickness of the fabric, you have only to apply the MC to the fabric, paper is not necessary: however that is for construction where you glue the board, not the fabric. Adhesive can be applied to edges as you turn them.Thinner fabrics likely need paper backing.
Methyl Cellulose IS a type of paste. The low tack should probably be "Slow Tack" it works fine if you use it to case in books, but it seems to be a little wetter than wheat paste, sometimes coming through the endpaper under pressure. The curling is no problem when you cut and apply the silk to a board. If you are storing it, roll it at a right angle to the curl. I would try a different 'rice' paper if the curling is strong or problematic. Thai Mullberry has been very good.
one is how do you get it to work using only CMC and not paste? I found CMC to have very low tackiness (is there such word?).
The other question is about paper curling. I noticed you paper started to curl as soom as you released it. Mine curls as well, and it starts like yours and in about an hour it turns into a giant straw, one inch of diameter... How to prevent that?
Thank you for sharing this information. How big are the pieces of silk you are paper-backing? And, have you any experience in gluing silk to silk?
SuperSL2010 1 year ago
Can I use wallpaper paste?
What type paper I shall use? Is regular A3(2,1) paper?
fbaghery 1 year ago
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fbaghery 1 year ago
wonderful tutorial -- thank you!
ashlieta 1 year ago
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gogosurr 1 year ago
txs for posting! just perfect!
rausis 2 years ago
(cont'd). In addition, insteadof using silk, I used a cotton/linen japanese fabric blend for my cloth. It seems the methyl had soaked through it in some parts, creating blotches of shiney spots. Did I not let the MC sit n enough, or was it not thick enough? Can i clean these off? Otherwise the cloth and paper came together and dried beautifully.
Duskychaos 3 years ago
Thank you for this video! I had a few questions though as I find very little to no information on how to paperback on the internet. I used printmaking paper I found at the store that wasn't made of kozo, but some kind of philippines fiber. I used the methyl cellulose just after I prepared it (maybe I should've waited longer? I noticed it was still expanding in the bowl half an hour later). The paper might have been saturated too much, it seemed like slightly rough handling would've torn it apart
Duskychaos 3 years ago
Thhe Methyl Cellulose should be mixed 1/8C of MC to 1cup of water. Allow it to thicken for at least 20 minutes. That ratio is perfect for the silk and thai mulberry, When I size raw silks and cotton or linen fabric, depending on the thickness of the fabric, you have only to apply the MC to the fabric, paper is not necessary: however that is for construction where you glue the board, not the fabric. Adhesive can be applied to edges as you turn them.Thinner fabrics likely need paper backing.
Ceropegia 3 years ago
Methyl Cellulose IS a type of paste. The low tack should probably be "Slow Tack" it works fine if you use it to case in books, but it seems to be a little wetter than wheat paste, sometimes coming through the endpaper under pressure. The curling is no problem when you cut and apply the silk to a board. If you are storing it, roll it at a right angle to the curl. I would try a different 'rice' paper if the curling is strong or problematic. Thai Mullberry has been very good.
Ceropegia 3 years ago
Hi!
Thanks for letting me know about this video!
2 things Id like to ask you:
one is how do you get it to work using only CMC and not paste? I found CMC to have very low tackiness (is there such word?).
The other question is about paper curling. I noticed you paper started to curl as soom as you released it. Mine curls as well, and it starts like yours and in about an hour it turns into a giant straw, one inch of diameter... How to prevent that?
Thanks
Ricardo
rbuchner 3 years ago