i think horowitz had a lot fun playing this prelude like this... but he should do this at home, not in a recording... i confirm that it is very funny to play this piece without trying to hit the right notes...
In the case of this recording, the likes or dislikes of mere mortals are irrelevant. This recording was made in 1931, shortly after Horowitz had left Russia, the homeland of both himself and Rachmaninov.
The power of Rachmaninov's music is contained within, and transmuted through, Horowitz's extraordinary hands. Intense, almost terrifying, excitement , intercepted by a passage of swooning passion, and finished off with a throw away end. Dont' judge, just listen and understand.
This is wonderful, and you can hear Horowitz's love for Rachmaninoff in the playing. I'm sure Rachmaninoff would forgive the missed notes and applaud the passion.
great recording of the master at work, with mistakes, which lots of people in the music world regard as "bad" or "wrong" but i love to hear a great musician kinda skip over his own hands or play a wrong note cuz it just shows how human they are. Idk maybe he was thinkn about something else. It also seems like he had a few pots of coffee beforehand.
this is a really bad performance. how do they get away with it? people would lap it up. might be when he is old or drunk, because hor is always my fav as well as richter.
@Matt90o i really wanted to reply saying that those with the best minds seem to have the best sense of humor. Although this might not be the truth, i tend to think it would be nice if it was.
@TheSJeon Thank you for your reply. It's always rewarding when someone replies to a comment made and I certainly do not reckon that I have the last word on one so great as Horowitz. I'm just dismayed when someone of his calibre appears to 'dash off' a great work such as this. I love Cortot's recordings too but felt that this one has sneaked in under the radar. It's very interesting to hear all the same.
По моему убеждению, суть этого гениального произведения удалось передать только Рихтеру. Остальные или изголяются, или просто не дорубают. Хотя первые изголяются потому что тоже не дорубают.
Notice the break he puts in at 0:30 - it increases the feeling of a "calm before the storm". He knew Rachmaninoff very well, and supposedly he always played it like that. What a genious!!
This is the BEST version by Horowitz. Too bad if people never get to hear this except few other versions (are not as good as this) are available on youtube!
The young woman who recently won the Chopin competition plays this piece also in her selections. But hearing the master play it, brings out the weaknesses in her unusual performance. She has neither the technical skill nor the range of emotional expression that Horowitz displays here. But then, she is very young.
It´s impossible for a piece not to change subtly and become your own after time and continuous playing. We see this all the time in popular music. It´s the same here, he made it his own. That´s what makes Horowitz, Horowitz and everyone else everyone else. Absolute strict renditions of these pieces would make them indistinguishable from one artist to the next. I´d bet the farm Chopin, Liszt, Mozart..... were the same. Their pieces evolved and changed over time in their own interpretations.
omg, this is by far tht fastest play of this prelude I've heard as well as the most wrong! I dont know if he intetionlaly changed SO MANY notes but it does not make for good listening, Since I can currently play this piece I can say its really amazing to play it so fast but whoever thinks speed is a virtuosity indicator then they should be watching rugby, not piano videos...
I personally like Horowitz, but this is a bad interpretation IN MY OPINION obviously...
Angus Young can stretch to the 14th interval! What difference does it make? My bros all had these arguments about "who can stretch the furthest" & none of it matters at all. I can play intervals longer than they can and I have smaller hands than any of these people. What matters is whether you can interpret the piece properly & that you can play with the proper dynamics and feel that the original composer intended. Sure, some of these things require piano "gymnastics," but...you get the idea.
Not a huge fan of the outer sections of this version, but it really does blow my mind in parts. 2:30-2:35 is amazing. He must have really light wrists to be able to play at that crazy tempo.
The voicing in the middle section is awesome - most pianists settle for bringing out one line, he manages to bring out both so clearly - it's like he had an extra hand!
There is another version on YT - apparently recorded when he was 78. Musically, I prefer that one. But, thanks for posting.
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Horowitz was sn incredibly great pianist. Toscanini thought Horowitz was the world's best, he certainly wasn't far wrong.Horowitz was unbelievable. Like all greats he was human !!! I am still amazed at how much actual talent and ability he really had. I am an enormous Horowitz fan.
@MostlyExistent you might be wrong because alot of people hear ' mistakes' in his variations but if you look at the sheets he writes by hand they do have them notes its a common mistake but u might be write in this piece
i tot i drugoi dopuskali nekotorie interpretatsii. ob etom i o svoei druzbe s nimi govoril natan milshtein( "znamja", #10 ili #11 za 1998 god, statja solomona volkova).
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The middle section is beautifully played and could only be Horowitz. The outer sections sound rushed and impatient as if trying out the piano. Even the greatest pianists play wrong notes!
Rachmaninov and Horowitz knew each other like father and son. They got really close after Horowitz´s mother passed ! According to Rachmaninov; Horowitz was the best pianist he had ever heard
hey where did you read that??? I hope u didn't make that up. according to what I've read so far Rach said in an interview: there are two good pianists in our time: Hoffman and Myself.
@moster808 "According to Rachmaninov; Horowitz was the best pianist he had ever heard" but according to Horowitz: "Of the Russian pianists, I like only one, Richter."
i am not sure if this is realy Horowitz because there is another video which is much better. In my opinion there is no real interpritation. everything is based on opinion. I always tend to like the original work.
No way... I seriously doubt he could reach a 14th. A 14th is one key short of a 2 octave spread.
I seriously doubt he had a reach of that length. An 11th is a big reach for normal. I can do a comfortable 11th, But can't get a 12th. A 14th is probably impossible. Unless you are like a giant.
You're not wrong, just not telling how big his span really was. According to a few different sources he could play a left hand chord of c-g-c-eflat-g. For him to have that he'd have to be able to hit a 13th.
Which is absolutely gigantic. I have an 11th span. My hands must be like a child's compared to his.
that's nothing else but sick...i wonder if such big hands are rather to be seen as advantage or disadvantage for a piano maestro... by the way, do you know anything about maestro Debussy concerning the size of the hands, because he also has this really widened chords..!? (excuse my english, it's not my mothertounge..)
Are you serious! 2 more keys and he can go for 2 octaves. I wish I have his hand. And one more thing, in prelude c minor what is the longest key. cause i saw in the video 'rachmaninoff had big hands', the pianist had to use stick to play the piece. hahaha
Ah, don't believe a bit of it. Rachmaninoff actually tended to write so that chords fitted comfortably under the hand. The most impressive-sounding bits are, surprisingly, the easiest to play (in this piece and in others).
I don´t know when Rachmaninof said this, maybe when Horowitz plays this diferent in other time, cause it´s is terrible, one should to see the score....
what a shocking unmusical and rushed tossed borderline evil way of playing this masterpiece. i'm sick of horowitz. he was a a totally overrated self-adoring teen in a man's body. and he misses so many notes. those descending octaves are appalling. shame on anyone who continues to praise this man in our modern error of infinitely higher standards. i'm sooooo over this fraud. i once fell for it, but no more. i'm outta here.
Advisor - are you going to start talking to yourself AGAIN?
All kidding aside - have you EVER heard WORSE piano playing on the world stage in your entire life? I haven't. And I have heard some of the most calamitous 'performances' of all time.
The photo of him tells a lot - particularly, that he knew he duped the masses.
Actually it's ironic that people act like they know what they're talking about when Rachmaninoff said that Horowitz interpreted his pieces better than he did...
what a waste of time trying to figure out all of the "mistakes." Horowitz understands Music perfectly and transmits it in a very unique way, as we all are unique in a way.
hey rickypix. thanks so much for the details. i heard the same crap. did you notice that three people gave you minuses? they couldn't take the fact that their "great master" made this many horrific mistakes and changes, even when he was very young. thanks for taking the time to point them out exactly. i find these errors shocking.
I see a technique conversation. Horowitz only had poor technique near the end of his life. Rubinstein had great technique for a concert pianist, pretty good technique for a great concert pianist.
Rachmaninov slays them all. I've only heard one mistake in all the recordings of him I heard and it was only maybe a mistake.
Rachmaninov had a more secure and practised technique...horowitz's was completely natural, and could have "slayed" them all had he practised. But that wasn't his style; he was spontaneous, and his technique allowed him to be so, so I would say horowitz had the greatest technique in the end.
Ps. Not that it's important, Rachmaninov made loads of little slips!
Horowitz practised like mad during his early years. He had a fantastic technique early on. Famous pianists came to his concerts to see how he achieved certain feats like the Tchaikovsky Concerto Octaves.
nah. rubinstein was the most spontaneous, especially in those anecdotes where he would sight read a piece on the train to his concert for where he would be playing them for the first time! Horowitz had a very irregular hand posture, extremely flat and makes many mistakes. he is extremely unorthodox with average precision but the ability to create the most incredible colors and tones
I think Hofmann's version is in its own league. Most of his recordings were, despite the fact that many (from his prime especially, but even some from when he was an old alky lol) were on piano rolls and much of his phrasing and almost subliminal nuances are lost in translation.
Horowitz was known for technical perfection. It was Rubenstein who was known for his many, many missed notes. But HE was a star, and the hero to all the little Jewish kids slaving over a piano.
Horowitz was known for great technique, not perfection. Rubinstein hardly hit any error notes, only made many reading errors! I don't know where you may have heard this, as all of Rubinstein's recordings are far closer to "perfection" than Horowitz's, even if he did have the biggest facility.
Rubinstein had a tremendous memory, but memory lapses from him were not unheard of (ex.: Chopin's Op. 35 from his Moscow recital, not the spliced BMG version). His "perfection" was achieved in the studio--Rubinstein even had a falling out w/Reiner after criticism of his mistakes. Rubinstein also made a somewhat backhanded compliment about the young Horowitz's perfectionism in his autobiography, but still admitted he'd give several years of his life to claim 1 wrong note after a concert.
I am still extremely excited about this. It may be madly fast; but there are some amazing things in this. To me he was the greatest pianist ever. He was human!!!!! I still feel the flair in this playing. Generally he was absolutely phenominal normall at this time in 1931.
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hey "hellomate639". NO, this is not fucking amazing AT ALL. where is the "interpretation" you speak of when he makes that many horrific mistakes, and rushes thru this gorgeous masterpiece in that inane fashion, doubling stuff, leaving bars out, missing massive notes, changing the end in that awful way. how is this representative of the composer? and look how you all crucify anyone who has commented on the truth about horowitz.
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This cannot be horowitz. Everything is obviously sped up and the amount of sheer misreadings are far from his style. His unique presence in music is totally lacking also. Rachmaninov was his all time hreo...Horowitz would never insult him by releasing a "recording" like this...my guess is that it is an amteur idiot who sped up the recording and tried to get themselves a little fame by pretending to be the master. Sad really.
Well maybe it is him. But then I think he would even agree that he is the idiot here. He's going way faster than even he could; quite an immature thing to do especially by his standards. It's just a slap dash interpretation (compared to his older one which was magnificent in comparison). You'll probably get all pissd off with me saying that, but know that he is one of my favourite pianists, if not my all time favourite. Yet he has let himself down here terribly I feel, if it is a real recording.
I think it's a rather refreshing performance, actually. It's really, really staccato and light in the first march, which is something we don't often hear. I agree that his other performances and Gilels are better overall than this, I think that it is always worth finding something you like about the performance.
(Except Lang Lang, whose performances of this piece are not good.)
Horowitz always hit lots of wrong notes. He was known for that. He had amazing technique but nobody is perfect. He is just messing around with this piece. Thats why it doesn't meet your standards.
No, I guess I hadn't. As an amateur pianist, I find it very difficult to play that part piano, so I resort to the forte. I prefer that interpretation, and a lot of other performers seem to like it as well.
This section is marked, in all reliable scores, as forte, and the first beat of each bar has an accent. It is not uncommon to hear Rachmaninoff performing the opposite of what he indicated on the score, although I am not sure why.
I agree that it is a bit fast. However, I do like the extreme staccato sound that he gets at this speed and without the sustain pedal. I also like 0:13, where he makes a big deal out of the second time he plays the F#-Bb-D augmented triad.
too high velocity, virtuos, but not the right interpretation, horowitz meaning is: hey, people I'm the fastest, but i love horowitz
daydreamermoustache 2 months ago
i think horowitz had a lot fun playing this prelude like this... but he should do this at home, not in a recording... i confirm that it is very funny to play this piece without trying to hit the right notes...
phipeli1 2 months ago
@phipeli1 :D :D
Teppichbodenman 2 months ago
In the case of this recording, the likes or dislikes of mere mortals are irrelevant. This recording was made in 1931, shortly after Horowitz had left Russia, the homeland of both himself and Rachmaninov.
The power of Rachmaninov's music is contained within, and transmuted through, Horowitz's extraordinary hands. Intense, almost terrifying, excitement , intercepted by a passage of swooning passion, and finished off with a throw away end. Dont' judge, just listen and understand.
helenahr42 3 months ago
to fast..
atvrealty 3 months ago
@atvrealty way too fast !
Smith502 2 months ago
completed in 1901, recorded in 1931, played in 2011...and still timeless
zahefiou 3 months ago
Too fast for my liking. But certainly a virtuosic performance
Rasterius 4 months ago
...I just love that picture of him!
snoops4ever 4 months ago in playlist Piano music
This is wonderful, and you can hear Horowitz's love for Rachmaninoff in the playing. I'm sure Rachmaninoff would forgive the missed notes and applaud the passion.
RolandRiopelle 6 months ago
Ive heard Horowitz used to experiment with new fingerings during recitals. Pretty fearless!
mycatsapunk 7 months ago
Mistakes? Is this what you really stuck at?
aeon2805 7 months ago
oops... who was first? albert einstein or horowitz???
KFlaxi 7 months ago 11
great recording of the master at work, with mistakes, which lots of people in the music world regard as "bad" or "wrong" but i love to hear a great musician kinda skip over his own hands or play a wrong note cuz it just shows how human they are. Idk maybe he was thinkn about something else. It also seems like he had a few pots of coffee beforehand.
LordSamuelDespotKing 7 months ago
Holy shite, that picture is going to haunt me at night
estenrique 8 months ago
this is a really bad performance. how do they get away with it? people would lap it up. might be when he is old or drunk, because hor is always my fav as well as richter.
warthog212 9 months ago
So exciting!
chagallblue456 9 months ago
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omgwhtrudoing 9 months ago
Is that a doctored image of Horowitz or is that really Horowitz?
erken 10 months ago
@erken That's actually Horowitz sticking his tongue out. There's something with geniuses doing that (think of Einstein) =P
Matt90o 9 months ago
@Matt90o i really wanted to reply saying that those with the best minds seem to have the best sense of humor. Although this might not be the truth, i tend to think it would be nice if it was.
shagadelic215 9 months ago
Addirittura migliore di quella dello stesso rachmaninoff...
TheSupermaurizio 10 months ago
At 2.50 he loses it completely!
kingsfort1 11 months ago
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@kingsfort1 artistry and perfection is something different
TheSJeon 10 months ago
@TheSJeon Thank you for your reply. It's always rewarding when someone replies to a comment made and I certainly do not reckon that I have the last word on one so great as Horowitz. I'm just dismayed when someone of his calibre appears to 'dash off' a great work such as this. I love Cortot's recordings too but felt that this one has sneaked in under the radar. It's very interesting to hear all the same.
kingsfort1 10 months ago
At 1.27 he plays wrong octaves????
kingsfort1 11 months ago
По моему убеждению, суть этого гениального произведения удалось передать только Рихтеру. Остальные или изголяются, или просто не дорубают. Хотя первые изголяются потому что тоже не дорубают.
MrHalych 11 months ago
many mistakes ??
ToNiMT84 11 months ago
einstein used this same facial expression. was this a common facial expression during this time period? what's the meaning actually?
threelegduck 1 year ago
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It's the expression of genius.
Sillyhoot 11 months ago
wow
ciokkobassotto 1 year ago
Notice the break he puts in at 0:30 - it increases the feeling of a "calm before the storm". He knew Rachmaninoff very well, and supposedly he always played it like that. What a genious!!
MrOliverKjaerulff 1 year ago
2:50 ahah torppo forte quando si incarta :DD
New4785689 1 year ago
@New4785689 Poverino, si sarà sentito in alto mare in quel secondo..
massimiliano123123 1 year ago
When you hear Horowitz play, you know he had a giant Schlong.
VodKaLogic 1 year ago
This is the BEST version by Horowitz. Too bad if people never get to hear this except few other versions (are not as good as this) are available on youtube!
natureef 1 year ago
It's a very good pianist, just this style...
Szhenrik94 1 year ago
is the one in the photo rachmaninoff?? :P
EduOrta142536 1 year ago
@EduOrta142536 its horowitz
TripleRhu 11 months ago
HORRIBLE, VERY FAST AND NOT FEELING THIS IS HORRIBLE¡¡¡, VALENTINA LISISTSA IS BETTER PLAYING THIS PRELUDE.
Total0Tiempo 1 year ago
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OKAY111iiii.
There is another recording of it on YouTube done in 1981 though.
keetner 1 year ago
@Total0Tiempo gtfo
HeadlessJedi 1 year ago
The young woman who recently won the Chopin competition plays this piece also in her selections. But hearing the master play it, brings out the weaknesses in her unusual performance. She has neither the technical skill nor the range of emotional expression that Horowitz displays here. But then, she is very young.
drkathyday 1 year ago
He even played it faster than me...
but I made more mistakes than him ! xP
Hicksbosone 1 year ago
It´s impossible for a piece not to change subtly and become your own after time and continuous playing. We see this all the time in popular music. It´s the same here, he made it his own. That´s what makes Horowitz, Horowitz and everyone else everyone else. Absolute strict renditions of these pieces would make them indistinguishable from one artist to the next. I´d bet the farm Chopin, Liszt, Mozart..... were the same. Their pieces evolved and changed over time in their own interpretations.
megaviccky1 1 year ago
in my youth, i could reach an 11th with little trouble. This helped me in no way with the music of Sergei Vasilyevich!
for those young pianists, this has ALWAYS been a speed contest. Even with Rachmaninoff. Gary Graffman probably renders the best of this piece.
IRIQUOIS227 1 year ago
in my youth, i could reach an 11th with little trouble. This helped me in no way with the music of Sergei Vasilyevich!
IRIQUOIS227 1 year ago
omg, this is by far tht fastest play of this prelude I've heard as well as the most wrong! I dont know if he intetionlaly changed SO MANY notes but it does not make for good listening, Since I can currently play this piece I can say its really amazing to play it so fast but whoever thinks speed is a virtuosity indicator then they should be watching rugby, not piano videos...
I personally like Horowitz, but this is a bad interpretation IN MY OPINION obviously...
Or3st1s 1 year ago
@Or3st1s yes i think exactly the same, and i am performing this piece also, looking for some inspiration on youtube :)
warthog212 9 months ago
what a genious!!!
irinikaterini 1 year ago
Classy photo of horowitz lol
BruceLeeKills1 1 year ago
Angus Young can stretch to the 14th interval! What difference does it make? My bros all had these arguments about "who can stretch the furthest" & none of it matters at all. I can play intervals longer than they can and I have smaller hands than any of these people. What matters is whether you can interpret the piece properly & that you can play with the proper dynamics and feel that the original composer intended. Sure, some of these things require piano "gymnastics," but...you get the idea.
rafro007 1 year ago
beast unleash ....XD
justinneversleep 1 year ago
WIN Picture XD
QWERTGFG44 1 year ago
By the way, picture is funny ^^ =) =P
GodGiftedMusician 1 year ago
Not a huge fan of the outer sections of this version, but it really does blow my mind in parts. 2:30-2:35 is amazing. He must have really light wrists to be able to play at that crazy tempo.
The voicing in the middle section is awesome - most pianists settle for bringing out one line, he manages to bring out both so clearly - it's like he had an extra hand!
There is another version on YT - apparently recorded when he was 78. Musically, I prefer that one. But, thanks for posting.
pianofan24 1 year ago
Now that's some Horowitz!
GintsFarodin 1 year ago
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Go fuck your motherfucking faggot father in the cunt. Douche eating ass fucker! I've crapped turds smarter than you.(Forgive my harsh language I want to be a fuly fuctioning memeber of youtube society)
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espioz 1 year ago
Sorry! Found it terrible. I have to say dislike
RachPhantom40 1 year ago
he was the last romantic.. rip meastro
FishGush 1 year ago
Horowitz oraz Cziffra to mistrzowie fortepianu.
DzikenS94 1 year ago
You should have put a picture of him when he was young! This one is a bit misleading (But fun, nonetheless)...
Kakarot21591 1 year ago
Oh my, he looked old and senile even back in 1931!
illegalsmirf 1 year ago
Horowitz was sn incredibly great pianist. Toscanini thought Horowitz was the world's best, he certainly wasn't far wrong.Horowitz was unbelievable. Like all greats he was human !!! I am still amazed at how much actual talent and ability he really had. I am an enormous Horowitz fan.
cattleman6420012000 1 year ago 11
So he slipped up a couple times, it's still amazing! Well done.
MostlyExistent 1 year ago
@MostlyExistent you might be wrong because alot of people hear ' mistakes' in his variations but if you look at the sheets he writes by hand they do have them notes its a common mistake but u might be write in this piece
allthenamesrtook 1 year ago
@MostlyExistent stop this shit. IT IS SOOOOO CLEAR THAT YOU DONT KNOW HOROWITZ IT MAKE ME LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!
He did NOT slipp. someone like him CREATES what he thought would fit better.
lara9114 1 year ago
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very bad!!
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Мне кажется, Рахманинов не писал таких нот, какие играет г-н Горовиц
LarsonLammOfficial 1 year ago
He may have some slipped notes, but how he played it on some of the parts is miraculous.
I guess i'll go practice piece for a while before goign to bed.
WatchCharmedOnline 1 year ago
dr. Zhivago- This is genial!...I thought that it was Rachaminov! hhaa
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soooo many wrong notes!!
DogzRock88 2 years ago
he probably had a bad day, this stuff happens. still one of my favourite pianists.
sneakfast 2 years ago
seems Horowitz was having a lot of fun!
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wow! this is soo fast!
DogzRock88 2 years ago
Мне кажется, Рахманинов не писал таких нот, какие играет г-н Горовиц....
krakazyablya 2 years ago
i tot i drugoi dopuskali nekotorie interpretatsii. ob etom i o svoei druzbe s nimi govoril natan milshtein( "znamja", #10 ili #11 za 1998 god, statja solomona volkova).
MrMuntyan 2 years ago
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The middle section is beautifully played and could only be Horowitz. The outer sections sound rushed and impatient as if trying out the piano. Even the greatest pianists play wrong notes!
piano345 2 years ago
Rachmaninov and Horowitz knew each other like father and son. They got really close after Horowitz´s mother passed ! According to Rachmaninov; Horowitz was the best pianist he had ever heard
moster808 2 years ago 23
@moster808 Very true,but about this prelude for example I prefer Askenazy'version,indeed.
Ellinidara 1 year ago
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hey where did you read that??? I hope u didn't make that up. according to what I've read so far Rach said in an interview: there are two good pianists in our time: Hoffman and Myself.
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@moster808 "According to Rachmaninov; Horowitz was the best pianist he had ever heard" but according to Horowitz: "Of the Russian pianists, I like only one, Richter."
diab0lik5 11 months ago
@moster808 RachmaninoFF
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I do not belive you Horowitz would never allow such mistakes on a cd
mikeandvarda 2 years ago
i am not sure if this is realy Horowitz because there is another video which is much better. In my opinion there is no real interpritation. everything is based on opinion. I always tend to like the original work.
mikeandvarda 2 years ago
sorry but this is horowitz. i have got a cd with this recording.
egvztpwa 2 years ago
Can any one tell me how long rachmaninoff fingers can be stretched. i know it's long but i dont know how much. mine is until the 8th key
hafYAHA 2 years ago
He can take C-F whit comfort.
volodya2 2 years ago
That means he can play til the 11th key, is it?
hafYAHA 2 years ago 4
Ya, if I'm not wrong.
volodya2 2 years ago
@volodya2 Really?? I have the same extension of Rachmaninoff????? Nono, i though it was untill the 14th key...
shinyflygon35 1 year ago
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No way... I seriously doubt he could reach a 14th. A 14th is one key short of a 2 octave spread.
I seriously doubt he had a reach of that length. An 11th is a big reach for normal. I can do a comfortable 11th, But can't get a 12th. A 14th is probably impossible. Unless you are like a giant.
GodGiftedMusician 1 year ago
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Well, big, but not too big...I hope I'll take a comfortable 11th too,
one day...But even a 12th, who knows? I'm still too young.
shinyflygon35 1 year ago
@volodya2 With he's left hand he could reach a 12th.
JakaAce 1 year ago
@volodya2
He could reach a 12th, C to G.
Shaghayegh11 1 year ago
@volodya2 wtf? it's impossible...
21436587abc 1 year ago
@volodya2
You're not wrong, just not telling how big his span really was. According to a few different sources he could play a left hand chord of c-g-c-eflat-g. For him to have that he'd have to be able to hit a 13th.
Which is absolutely gigantic. I have an 11th span. My hands must be like a child's compared to his.
ProkofievRules 11 months ago
@hafYAHA as i say to volodya2, as i remember he could play 12ths - left hand could do C-Eflat-G--C-G, right hand C-G-C-Eflat-G.
kasyapa 1 year ago
@hafYAHA he could play further then that if he such a well known reputation of giant hands
nmbanana 1 year ago
volodya2 - as i remember he could play 12ths - left hand could do C-Eflat-G--C-G, right hand C-G-C-Eflat-G.
kasyapa 1 year ago
@volodya2 holy guy
JulieLupacova 1 year ago 2
@volodya2
that's nothing else but sick...i wonder if such big hands are rather to be seen as advantage or disadvantage for a piano maestro... by the way, do you know anything about maestro Debussy concerning the size of the hands, because he also has this really widened chords..!? (excuse my english, it's not my mothertounge..)
genomos90 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure Rachmaninoff could reach a 13th on the keyboard. He was also 6 and a half feet tall as well.
nihilus58 2 years ago
Are you serious! 2 more keys and he can go for 2 octaves. I wish I have his hand. And one more thing, in prelude c minor what is the longest key. cause i saw in the video 'rachmaninoff had big hands', the pianist had to use stick to play the piece. hahaha
hafYAHA 2 years ago
Ah, don't believe a bit of it. Rachmaninoff actually tended to write so that chords fitted comfortably under the hand. The most impressive-sounding bits are, surprisingly, the easiest to play (in this piece and in others).
JonMW 2 years ago
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ProLifeMontanaLass 2 years ago
@hafYAHA Same here. Hahha. I can reach from C, to D and E [next octave]
StardollCheater 1 year ago
@hafYAHA he is able to reach C - to G ( octave higher) with out pressing any other keys slightly
allthenamesrtook 1 year ago
@hafYAHA Rachmaninoff is said to had reached 13th
ilikehaku1100 1 year ago
@hafYAHA Same. Hahha,
StardollCheater 1 year ago
@hafYAHA
he can play a 13th (do-la) after all, he's 6'6
libetta 1 year ago
@hafYAHA
13 white keys.
The55555SSSSS 1 year ago
@hafYAHA From C to A (an octave + a sixth, 13 keys).
MrOliverKjaerulff 1 year ago
@hafYAHA only 8.. thats only an octave,, i can strech 10 grand,, i can hit 11 but not comforably
handycappo 1 year ago
@hafYAHA he can span a 13th.
thill440 1 year ago
@hafYAHA he had a span of a thirteenth (c to a)
guitaralbert0 1 year ago
@hafYAHA
I read that could reach C-Eb-G-C-G :)
SuhmMusic 1 year ago
@hafYAHA 13 inches or C-A he was 6'6" so yeah lol
artymowycz 11 months ago
@hafYAHA What I've heard is 12, but maybe I am wrong
PseudomanAlbert 11 months ago
@hafYAHA He could do a twelve, from what I've heard. That's C to the G in the other octave.
savethetrees433 11 months ago
There is another link, rachmninof prelude-vladimir Horowitz (best) cover, it´s really really better, I don´t know why this recording,....
jorgeuribeclar 2 years ago
I don´t know when Rachmaninof said this, maybe when Horowitz plays this diferent in other time, cause it´s is terrible, one should to see the score....
jorgeuribeclar 2 years ago
what a shocking unmusical and rushed tossed borderline evil way of playing this masterpiece. i'm sick of horowitz. he was a a totally overrated self-adoring teen in a man's body. and he misses so many notes. those descending octaves are appalling. shame on anyone who continues to praise this man in our modern error of infinitely higher standards. i'm sooooo over this fraud. i once fell for it, but no more. i'm outta here.
goodguysdoll 2 years ago
finally, a picture that expresses the clown and fraud that this man was.
goodguysdoll 2 years ago
This sounds like a NYSSMA grade 5 audition. Actually, not even.
organman52 2 years ago
Its not a train wreck.. its a train wrecker.
advisorC101 2 years ago
Advisor - are you going to start talking to yourself AGAIN?
All kidding aside - have you EVER heard WORSE piano playing on the world stage in your entire life? I haven't. And I have heard some of the most calamitous 'performances' of all time.
The photo of him tells a lot - particularly, that he knew he duped the masses.
organman52 2 years ago
Well yes, I love the sound of my own voice.
Remember this is "musically correct" according to fans.
I'm just a 17 year old boy.. it makes me scarred.
advisorC101 2 years ago
Yet another train wreck by the great horrorwitz.
organman52 2 years ago
Because Hexameron and rmannion have spoiled me, I have a lot of trouble enjoying these videos, and I feel bad for that.
Fallansig 2 years ago
Its music.
Its pleasing to the ear.
Who gives a fuck if he didn't play it exactly like Rachmaninoff.
subterranean47 2 years ago 17
A simple "He did not bring him no justice," would have done.
JonnMcNally 2 years ago
Actually it's ironic that people act like they know what they're talking about when Rachmaninoff said that Horowitz interpreted his pieces better than he did...
hellomate639 2 years ago
wow, I didn't know that
subterranean47 2 years ago
Yeah, depending on the piece though. He also prefered Moiseiwitsch's recordings of a few pieces, like Op. 32 No. 10
hellomate639 2 years ago
SO: and this is much more the way pianists used to play when they weren't always being recorded...
0:53 - he skips 4 beats mm 29 - 30
1:28 - m 40 plays F - G - A instead of E - F# - G
2:51 - adds an extra bar between m 73 - 74
3:10 - improvises a new double-time ending of arpeggios; of course on his 78 Rachmaninoff also changes the ending, adding a loud octave G.
rickypix 2 years ago
yes, exactly!!!!
maddelmusic 2 years ago
what a waste of time trying to figure out all of the "mistakes." Horowitz understands Music perfectly and transmits it in a very unique way, as we all are unique in a way.
Dionito4u2 2 years ago 2
hey rickypix. thanks so much for the details. i heard the same crap. did you notice that three people gave you minuses? they couldn't take the fact that their "great master" made this many horrific mistakes and changes, even when he was very young. thanks for taking the time to point them out exactly. i find these errors shocking.
goodguysdoll 2 years ago
What's up with 0:53 - 0:58????
neversroad 2 years ago
what about it?
videofreakmanic123 2 years ago
I see a technique conversation. Horowitz only had poor technique near the end of his life. Rubinstein had great technique for a concert pianist, pretty good technique for a great concert pianist.
Rachmaninov slays them all. I've only heard one mistake in all the recordings of him I heard and it was only maybe a mistake.
hellomate639 2 years ago
Rachmaninov had a more secure and practised technique...horowitz's was completely natural, and could have "slayed" them all had he practised. But that wasn't his style; he was spontaneous, and his technique allowed him to be so, so I would say horowitz had the greatest technique in the end.
Ps. Not that it's important, Rachmaninov made loads of little slips!
davidgray2 2 years ago 2
Horowitz practised like mad during his early years. He had a fantastic technique early on. Famous pianists came to his concerts to see how he achieved certain feats like the Tchaikovsky Concerto Octaves.
cattleman6420012000 2 years ago
nah. rubinstein was the most spontaneous, especially in those anecdotes where he would sight read a piece on the train to his concert for where he would be playing them for the first time! Horowitz had a very irregular hand posture, extremely flat and makes many mistakes. he is extremely unorthodox with average precision but the ability to create the most incredible colors and tones
fatalfuz 2 years ago
I think Hofmann's version is in its own league. Most of his recordings were, despite the fact that many (from his prime especially, but even some from when he was an old alky lol) were on piano rolls and much of his phrasing and almost subliminal nuances are lost in translation.
BloodyLovin 2 years ago
If there is man of such a face in the side,
I'll come to calm falls.
I'm sorry if English does not match.
syankuson815 2 years ago
I can't understand this translation.
chomskyFTW 2 years ago
Unless you were trying to claim that you will go to 'Calm Falls' of there is a man with a face on his side, then it doesn't match.
JohnEBProductions 2 years ago
Horowitz was known for technical perfection. It was Rubenstein who was known for his many, many missed notes. But HE was a star, and the hero to all the little Jewish kids slaving over a piano.
petie32 2 years ago
Horowitz was known for great technique, not perfection. Rubinstein hardly hit any error notes, only made many reading errors! I don't know where you may have heard this, as all of Rubinstein's recordings are far closer to "perfection" than Horowitz's, even if he did have the biggest facility.
davidgray2 2 years ago
Rubinstein had a tremendous memory, but memory lapses from him were not unheard of (ex.: Chopin's Op. 35 from his Moscow recital, not the spliced BMG version). His "perfection" was achieved in the studio--Rubinstein even had a falling out w/Reiner after criticism of his mistakes. Rubinstein also made a somewhat backhanded compliment about the young Horowitz's perfectionism in his autobiography, but still admitted he'd give several years of his life to claim 1 wrong note after a concert.
ayso78 1 year ago
I am still extremely excited about this. It may be madly fast; but there are some amazing things in this. To me he was the greatest pianist ever. He was human!!!!! I still feel the flair in this playing. Generally he was absolutely phenominal normall at this time in 1931.
cattleman6420012000 2 years ago
this recording dissapoints me...
with all the respect towards vladimir this was horrible......
he played it way too fast at the start....
although you have to respect a guy who can play 4 finger right hand chords that fast!!!!
jingeshan24 2 years ago
Wow, this is pretty bad...(not as bad as Kissin's, but still...) His later version is far superior.
yelvaberry 2 years ago
This version is fucking amazing for its pure interpretation quality.
hellomate639 2 years ago
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hey "hellomate639". NO, this is not fucking amazing AT ALL. where is the "interpretation" you speak of when he makes that many horrific mistakes, and rushes thru this gorgeous masterpiece in that inane fashion, doubling stuff, leaving bars out, missing massive notes, changing the end in that awful way. how is this representative of the composer? and look how you all crucify anyone who has commented on the truth about horowitz.
goodguysdoll 2 years ago
davidgray2 is retarded.
JOseyIzUrs89 2 years ago
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This cannot be horowitz. Everything is obviously sped up and the amount of sheer misreadings are far from his style. His unique presence in music is totally lacking also. Rachmaninov was his all time hreo...Horowitz would never insult him by releasing a "recording" like this...my guess is that it is an amteur idiot who sped up the recording and tried to get themselves a little fame by pretending to be the master. Sad really.
davidgray2 2 years ago
If there is an idiot that was you.
This is Horowitz, you can listen this recording on the 30's Emi recording.
volodya2 2 years ago
Well maybe it is him. But then I think he would even agree that he is the idiot here. He's going way faster than even he could; quite an immature thing to do especially by his standards. It's just a slap dash interpretation (compared to his older one which was magnificent in comparison). You'll probably get all pissd off with me saying that, but know that he is one of my favourite pianists, if not my all time favourite. Yet he has let himself down here terribly I feel, if it is a real recording.
davidgray2 2 years ago
I think it's a rather refreshing performance, actually. It's really, really staccato and light in the first march, which is something we don't often hear. I agree that his other performances and Gilels are better overall than this, I think that it is always worth finding something you like about the performance.
(Except Lang Lang, whose performances of this piece are not good.)
chomskyFTW 2 years ago
Horowitz always hit lots of wrong notes. He was known for that. He had amazing technique but nobody is perfect. He is just messing around with this piece. Thats why it doesn't meet your standards.
aguyfromtexas 2 years ago
Wow, I missed the pause button and hit "rate as 1 star" by accident. Sorry about that...
chomskyFTW 2 years ago
Horowitz is good, but i love Richters interpretation more... Horowitz plays it 2 fast
Janfissette 2 years ago
0.41 What a speed i didn't pay attention to it woooow ; horo !!!!
elbartorowitz 2 years ago
has someone noticed that almost pianists play this part forte ( 0.31) while rach himself plays piano ??
elbartorowitz 2 years ago
No, I guess I hadn't. As an amateur pianist, I find it very difficult to play that part piano, so I resort to the forte. I prefer that interpretation, and a lot of other performers seem to like it as well.
chomskyFTW 2 years ago 2
most people see it as a grand heroic calvary storming in type thing, so that would explain the forte
thiswastoogood 2 years ago
This section is marked, in all reliable scores, as forte, and the first beat of each bar has an accent. It is not uncommon to hear Rachmaninoff performing the opposite of what he indicated on the score, although I am not sure why.
6665726e 2 years ago
WTF is with the damn pic?
jasonextreme 2 years ago
he might be impersonating the einstein pic lol.
TrevorKingKwong 2 years ago 6
I agree that it is a bit fast. However, I do like the extreme staccato sound that he gets at this speed and without the sustain pedal. I also like 0:13, where he makes a big deal out of the second time he plays the F#-Bb-D augmented triad.
chomskyFTW 2 years ago
Too fast.
Horowitz is very good, but I don't like his performance on this piece. Gilels and Richter are better.
Linque13 2 years ago