For those of you who don't have a lot of contact with normal horse herd behavior believe me a mare will do the same thing if a mare lower on the hierarchy gets near her food. Herds, both male and female, operate on power and the less powerful know they have to move off when food is brought or risk getting kicked or bitten or both for being disrespectful. Mares are satisfied with just running the horse off. Stallions only try to injure when a mare is at stake and they have equal status.
be happy viking wasnt so broken and you had brought him back from the brink enough to defend his food and give that horse a talking to, also viking didn't attack the Percheron, he basically said this is my food and you cant have it, go away. he didnt antagonize the other horse once he backed off.
Can I borrow Viking? I've got an 18hh Percheron cross who thinks he's a lap dog. He's actually my mother's horse - he'll be 11 in March - but since I put my Arab - his pasturemate - down in October at the age of 23, he's been a jerk. Mostly because he's lonely, I know, but can I borrow Viking anyway? :)
Good point. I learned that the reason that big Percheron would not stop picking fights was that he was kept alone in a tiny corral until he was three. By then it was too late to learn manners. Today he has a different home and lives in a pipe bar corralwith other horses on the other side of the bars. He isn't allowed to have any inside his corral because he still tried to beat up every horse he meets.
Thats sad that he was subjected to that at such a young age, it just shows some people shouldn't be aloud to have horses unless they know how to handle them or have access to someone that does know what to do
It's Also called agression. When an animal hasn't been taught by its mother the pecking order from a young age it turns to the horse trying to domanate every horse because it never learnt and now it in its own mind is trying to restore order
Stallions need company ok. I have trained many horses over the years and have not had one fight between colts, stallions or geldings. If some one else s does the horse has not been properly conditioned to be a natural horse with respect for humans stallions live in herds in the wild they can do so in captivity to
I own four stallions of different ages, as long as they cant smell anything to do with a mare and/or one or both hasnt been breed with a mare before its perfectly fine to keep two stallions together my youngest two (2y/o & 6y/o) are kept together and they don't fight they actually get upset if one leaves. Also all my stallions when they are younger are out in with my arab gelding to learn paddock manners.
they are all introduced to each other before hand i know my horses. i'm not an idiot. and guess what not everyone has the space to keep every horse keep seperatly and im not going to make them be stabled 24/7 i have NEVER had my horses fight. Its called training you horses properly.
@xoxpandaxox666 ya thats fine and all but how many people will do this or are able to actually look after a stallion.this is why people without horse experience shouldn't own stllions just because they could do something that would be very dangerous for them or the horse and not even know it
Because I didn't want him in with the mares at the time. I know some people keep stallions isolated from other horses, but like many experts I agree that this is cruel. Ideally a stud colt should be put in with other males after weaning, just as colts in the wild join stallion herds. That's how Viking began life, running in a big pasture with other studs. Then at our place he lived with geldings for awhile. Now he's happily with three mares.
If you view my more recent videos of Viking you will see that he is behaving himself with other horses when they have riders. We have taught him to never dare misbehave with a human in the mix.
Haha this remeinds me of Damien, the little 13.3hh bay Arabian gelding I used to half own. I turned him out and there were stalls next to the arena. A big 16hh Saddlebred named Robbie tried to pick a fight with Damien. So Damien rears straight up in the air (mind you, he was still only a little taller than the Saddlebred) and sends Robbie running to the back of his stall. XD Little horses, big egos.
uh... do you think you should seperate them you fuc*ing idiot? everyone else here agrees... and i surely hope that isent a stallion then keeping those 2 together proves ur inadequacy to own anything other then ur lost empy soul. call me!
Let me repeat what I wrote below. Because Danny refused to quit picking fights, I passed him on to a new owner who only allows him to socialize over a pipe rail fence.
Let me guess. You evidently did not read anything on this page before flaming, or else you would know I *did* remove Danny from my property for picking too many fights. Not only that, he now has a safe home where he only socializes with other horses over a pipe bar fence.
Actually, Danny's insistence on picking fights is why we let him go. He now is the personal mount of a professional trainer of police horses. I was proud of Viking for standing up to Danny without ever injuring him.
If you don't like seeing horses challenge each other, you'd better stay away from them because they do it all the time. The important thing is to evaluate whether a horse is a danger to others -- as I finally decided Danny was -- or just engaging in the usual horse play.
my horses do it all the time two..its just different with stallions. we have our 8 broodmares out together and the bicker and fight just like they would in the wild...but im NOT stupid enough to let my stallions out with anyone gelding or not
Then do you keep your stallions with each other? That's OK when they are young, but it appears, from what you say about mares, like you are breeding them. Or do you keep each one in solitary confinement? In Germany it is considered criminal animal abuse to keep a horse in solitary confinement. That is why -- if only you could read my earlier post to you above you would know this -- I sent Danny to a new home. Note that it was the gelding who was the aggressor, not the stallion.
If you want to raise a stallion that has good behavior, it helps to follow the natural order. As yearlings, they join a herd of other stallions. Around age seven or so they try to win their own herd of mares. Since I don't keep a stallion herd, I substituted three geldings. Notice that a gelding initiated the fight. I soon passed this gelding on to another owner because he picked too many fights. Since Viking bred our two mares, he no longer lives with geldings.
Horses do that ALL the time, alot of the time they play fight. It's how colts and yearlings learn how defend themselves in the wild once they become stallions. It looks like it hurts more than it actually does.
You are so right. Danny never got even a scrape from all the fights he started and lost. Now he's owned by a retired police horse trainer. He made his owner's wife's Arabian mare so mad that she bit bunches of patches of hair off of him. Now Danny (still with same owner) lives in his own corral because he never did learn about starting fights he always loses.
Here's an idea, if you're going to give food to one horse in the pen, give some to the other! It's like having 2 dogs and only putting down one bowl... Unless of course you enjoy seeing your horses beat the crap out of each other for something so avoidable!!!
Actually, if you listen to the sound you will hear someone commenting to Danny that there is plenty for him to eat if only he would go to an unoccupied pile of hay. The point here is that this particular gelding likes food more if he cna take it from someone.
Thank you. So many stallions become vicious because of people force them into solitary confinement. The AQHA book series on foundation horses of the breed has stories about the beloved companions of famous stallions. About ten years ago a nearby ranch was keeping a horribly swaybacked mare with their elderly QH stallion because the stallion was deeply in love with her. I enjoyed watching those lovebirds. Stallions can be as kind as the best humans if we give them a chance.
For those of you who don't have a lot of contact with normal horse herd behavior believe me a mare will do the same thing if a mare lower on the hierarchy gets near her food. Herds, both male and female, operate on power and the less powerful know they have to move off when food is brought or risk getting kicked or bitten or both for being disrespectful. Mares are satisfied with just running the horse off. Stallions only try to injure when a mare is at stake and they have equal status.
motorgypsy 1 year ago
be happy viking wasnt so broken and you had brought him back from the brink enough to defend his food and give that horse a talking to, also viking didn't attack the Percheron, he basically said this is my food and you cant have it, go away. he didnt antagonize the other horse once he backed off.
hawkstorm55 1 year ago
Never underestimate the power oof Paso Finos...They are my favorite breed I own 6 of them and I show them across the country.. There mighty
MsComanche1 2 years ago
Can I borrow Viking? I've got an 18hh Percheron cross who thinks he's a lap dog. He's actually my mother's horse - he'll be 11 in March - but since I put my Arab - his pasturemate - down in October at the age of 23, he's been a jerk. Mostly because he's lonely, I know, but can I borrow Viking anyway? :)
sidlewild 3 years ago
Good point. I learned that the reason that big Percheron would not stop picking fights was that he was kept alone in a tiny corral until he was three. By then it was too late to learn manners. Today he has a different home and lives in a pipe bar corralwith other horses on the other side of the bars. He isn't allowed to have any inside his corral because he still tried to beat up every horse he meets.
cmeinel 3 years ago
Thats sad that he was subjected to that at such a young age, it just shows some people shouldn't be aloud to have horses unless they know how to handle them or have access to someone that does know what to do
xoxpandaxox666 3 years ago
No, Its called a pecking order honey!
MsComanche1 2 years ago
It's Also called agression. When an animal hasn't been taught by its mother the pecking order from a young age it turns to the horse trying to domanate every horse because it never learnt and now it in its own mind is trying to restore order
xoxpandaxox666 2 years ago
@xoxpandaxox666 it's just like a little kid.needs to learn respect and where it stands in life.
SleazyKitten 2 years ago
Stallions need company ok. I have trained many horses over the years and have not had one fight between colts, stallions or geldings. If some one else s does the horse has not been properly conditioned to be a natural horse with respect for humans stallions live in herds in the wild they can do so in captivity to
xoxpandaxox666 3 years ago
I own four stallions of different ages, as long as they cant smell anything to do with a mare and/or one or both hasnt been breed with a mare before its perfectly fine to keep two stallions together my youngest two (2y/o & 6y/o) are kept together and they don't fight they actually get upset if one leaves. Also all my stallions when they are younger are out in with my arab gelding to learn paddock manners.
xoxpandaxox666 3 years ago
Yea and if one of those stallions were to lash out..You would have a huge vet bill on your hands some horses even die!
MsComanche1 2 years ago
they are all introduced to each other before hand i know my horses. i'm not an idiot. and guess what not everyone has the space to keep every horse keep seperatly and im not going to make them be stabled 24/7 i have NEVER had my horses fight. Its called training you horses properly.
xoxpandaxox666 2 years ago
@xoxpandaxox666 ya thats fine and all but how many people will do this or are able to actually look after a stallion.this is why people without horse experience shouldn't own stllions just because they could do something that would be very dangerous for them or the horse and not even know it
SleazyKitten 2 years ago
Ohh poor boy, but thats what he gets for trying to get the paso's food. =) The paso reminds me of my old horse.
HorsesxarexLife 3 years ago
Ooo, sounded painful when he kicked the gate. Gorgeous scenery!
acelinee 3 years ago
Because I didn't want him in with the mares at the time. I know some people keep stallions isolated from other horses, but like many experts I agree that this is cruel. Ideally a stud colt should be put in with other males after weaning, just as colts in the wild join stallion herds. That's how Viking began life, running in a big pasture with other studs. Then at our place he lived with geldings for awhile. Now he's happily with three mares.
cmeinel 3 years ago
why do you have a stallion and a gelding together?!?!?
lilliekl63 3 years ago
Ouch, poor Percheron!
HorsePsycho 3 years ago
holy man he got slammed
sherissethompson 3 years ago
Imagine yourself riding that percheron when such an event occures :(
Jefrma 3 years ago
If you view my more recent videos of Viking you will see that he is behaving himself with other horses when they have riders. We have taught him to never dare misbehave with a human in the mix.
cmeinel 3 years ago
Haha this remeinds me of Damien, the little 13.3hh bay Arabian gelding I used to half own. I turned him out and there were stalls next to the arena. A big 16hh Saddlebred named Robbie tried to pick a fight with Damien. So Damien rears straight up in the air (mind you, he was still only a little taller than the Saddlebred) and sends Robbie running to the back of his stall. XD Little horses, big egos.
4x4Girl14 3 years ago
uh... do you think you should seperate them you fuc*ing idiot? everyone else here agrees... and i surely hope that isent a stallion then keeping those 2 together proves ur inadequacy to own anything other then ur lost empy soul. call me!
hotshotlc 4 years ago
Let me repeat what I wrote below. Because Danny refused to quit picking fights, I passed him on to a new owner who only allows him to socialize over a pipe rail fence.
cmeinel 4 years ago
Let me guess. You evidently did not read anything on this page before flaming, or else you would know I *did* remove Danny from my property for picking too many fights. Not only that, he now has a safe home where he only socializes with other horses over a pipe bar fence.
cmeinel 4 years ago 3
hotshotic. chill out dude.
cucumb 3 years ago
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do you get off on watching your horses fight? you should be beaten with a stick and have your stallions taken away
BlueRibbonWelshPonie 4 years ago
Actually, Danny's insistence on picking fights is why we let him go. He now is the personal mount of a professional trainer of police horses. I was proud of Viking for standing up to Danny without ever injuring him.
If you don't like seeing horses challenge each other, you'd better stay away from them because they do it all the time. The important thing is to evaluate whether a horse is a danger to others -- as I finally decided Danny was -- or just engaging in the usual horse play.
cmeinel 4 years ago
my horses do it all the time two..its just different with stallions. we have our 8 broodmares out together and the bicker and fight just like they would in the wild...but im NOT stupid enough to let my stallions out with anyone gelding or not
BlueRibbonWelshPonie 4 years ago
Then do you keep your stallions with each other? That's OK when they are young, but it appears, from what you say about mares, like you are breeding them. Or do you keep each one in solitary confinement? In Germany it is considered criminal animal abuse to keep a horse in solitary confinement. That is why -- if only you could read my earlier post to you above you would know this -- I sent Danny to a new home. Note that it was the gelding who was the aggressor, not the stallion.
cmeinel 4 years ago
you stupid bitchBlueRibbonsWelcjPonie. What a sick remark. You should newer own an animal.
cucumb 3 years ago
Wow. You're sure lucky your horses weren't seriously injured. Don't put a stud with a gelding.
HorseJumperCTS 4 years ago
If you want to raise a stallion that has good behavior, it helps to follow the natural order. As yearlings, they join a herd of other stallions. Around age seven or so they try to win their own herd of mares. Since I don't keep a stallion herd, I substituted three geldings. Notice that a gelding initiated the fight. I soon passed this gelding on to another owner because he picked too many fights. Since Viking bred our two mares, he no longer lives with geldings.
cmeinel 4 years ago
Horses do that ALL the time, alot of the time they play fight. It's how colts and yearlings learn how defend themselves in the wild once they become stallions. It looks like it hurts more than it actually does.
OverTheJump 4 years ago
You are so right. Danny never got even a scrape from all the fights he started and lost. Now he's owned by a retired police horse trainer. He made his owner's wife's Arabian mare so mad that she bit bunches of patches of hair off of him. Now Danny (still with same owner) lives in his own corral because he never did learn about starting fights he always loses.
cmeinel 4 years ago
Here's an idea, if you're going to give food to one horse in the pen, give some to the other! It's like having 2 dogs and only putting down one bowl... Unless of course you enjoy seeing your horses beat the crap out of each other for something so avoidable!!!
Nikkijean123 4 years ago
Actually, if you listen to the sound you will hear someone commenting to Danny that there is plenty for him to eat if only he would go to an unoccupied pile of hay. The point here is that this particular gelding likes food more if he cna take it from someone.
cmeinel 4 years ago
yeah, y is the stud w/ another horse?
gwgallopergirl 4 years ago
Last winter the stallion preferred to play with geldings but now that he's bred our mares he won't tolerate geldings any more.
cmeinel 4 years ago
stallions need companions just like every other horse
BlazingAva 4 years ago 2
Thank you. So many stallions become vicious because of people force them into solitary confinement. The AQHA book series on foundation horses of the breed has stories about the beloved companions of famous stallions. About ten years ago a nearby ranch was keeping a horribly swaybacked mare with their elderly QH stallion because the stallion was deeply in love with her. I enjoyed watching those lovebirds. Stallions can be as kind as the best humans if we give them a chance.
cmeinel 4 years ago
Wow some one agrees with me I can't tell you how many stallions I feel sorry for because they are alone.
BlazingAva 4 years ago