Reminds me of these two verses from Baudelaire: "Je te frapperai sans colère. Et sans haine, comme un boucher". I will it you without anger and without hate, like a butcher.
@JamariLaw316 Because defeat and victory are both sides of the same coin. In the way that in victory, there is always defeat, as in defeat there is always victory. You cannot have one without having the other. At least, this is the way I understand it.
Your biggest victory is also the moment of your biggest defeat, because at the same time you won, you lost something else. Perhaps it is simply all the effort you put in winning and that is not there anymore...or seems futile.
@natgus1 You will find the same kind of reasoning in Frank Herbert "Dune Messiah" when Paul Muad'ib is asking "what should I do", and someone answers him "decide"... even if that means being unfair. This is exactly the same dilemna Arjuna has to deal with.
What most of you argue about is not religion but mechanics. Men are mechanical, life is mechanical. The conversation between Arjuna and Krishna is one that takes place within each man every day... do I, or do I not? The conflict takes place within and ones actions are the result of each battle. The illusion, therefore, is that "I am doing", for sincere introspection will show that "it is done through me."
Imagine that, you are merely a witness to your actions in a wind-up universe.
Forget the religious discussion - this whole film is actually an example of brilliant classical-style acting all around, as well as a director whose interpretations of Shakespeare have been particularly innovative. I especially came to admire Vittorio Mezzogiorno (who portrays Arjuna) because of this film.
@powerfulnun You are talking bout people not the religion k.. wealth and power makes people crazy.. i am not in suport of them.... but the ones who were good and really folowed the bible were less.... gpo and read your history!
what are you hindu??? Gosh! many of ma frns are hindus. but if you have to talk bout crimes and all then i can also mention how many people you guys have kiled coz of ur intolerance!
@AssassinsCreed43va Youve never heard of the crusaders? You think there werent Christian massacres? Have you ever heard of September Dawn? The only other religious slaughter committed in a September religiously in America? No I dont mean just Muslims. Learn your own history.
This petty bickering is saddening, on the page of such a beautiful film, you ought to be ashamed. Watch the film, whatever creed, colour or culture, it does not matter, this is a poem describing an inner struggle which the whole of humanity can learn from, your bickering proves that you are not really people of faith, you are overcome by ego, good luck. all love, H x
Can anybody sum up Peter Brook? What's he all about? How can you explain that he is a theatre practitioner, although he has no theories he just goes with the flow!? Very confused... Any help would be much appreciated!
There should be a new rule: Always go to religious videos to find the most ignorant people on youtube. Finding them in their natural habitat leads to excellent observation opportunities as they display ignorance and faggotry for all to see.
Now we come to our point about castism,When I declear I m free from body,Actually I decleared I not belive the maya or illusion of lord like so called headless idiot,Who think atman can be destroyed or created.There is a space within the heart; in it lies the Person consisting
of mind, immortal and luminous.Realise that person u find peace otherwise live in knowledge of duality.
Another type of negation or absence is also being ruled out by the insertion of the term "traikAlika" in the definition. This is to counter an objection as follows. There is an absence of a thing
such as a pot before it comes into being, called the prAgabhAva. After the pot is destroyed, there is another type of absence (abhAva) called "dhvaMsa-abhAva."
Actually, the mention of "having it as the qualifier" is for the purpose of ruling out something that is trivial (fictitious entity) and a definition that is too wide (ativyApti).
This alternative definition is based on shruti statements such as "neha nAnAsti kiJNchana", as BrahmAnanda says in his gauDabrahmAnandI, "neha nAnAstI"tyAdishrutyarthe vivadamAnaM prati sAdhyAntaramAha".
The mithyAtva of the world is akin to the illusion of the snake over a rope or silver in nacre. Upon realizing that the snake is illusory, one exclaims "The snake is unreal. The snake was never there to begin with, it is not there now, and it will never be there in the future!" This is the mithyAtva (unreality) of the world that is being talked about.
Alternatively, mithyAtva (unreality) of something is that which is the counter-positive or absential adjunct (pratiyogin) of an absolute negation (a negation for all three periods of time, past, present, and future) in the very substratum where it (the thing) is cognized.
This alternative definition is based on shruti statements such as "neha nAnAsti kiJNchana"
Only Knowledge of the self makes you slowly understand. I saw this 15 years ago, thought it was nice, Now that I practice, I weep in joy. Thank you Peter Brook. Love your work always did, saw you in Athens. I salut you great master Peter Brook
Krsna says in the Gita that he is more close and more satisfied with those who revere and worship His Bhaktas then those who worship only Him and don´t give due respect to other vaishnavas. so u see, the misconceptions of iskcon are many, but the one that hurts me the most is that u should not worship Shiva, but u must see God in your Guru who sais that a vaishnava, the greatest one, should not be worshiped? cmon! Har Har Mahadev! Jay Sri Krsna! Jay Vedas and Puranas!
iskcon is spreading misconceptions on vaishnavism. vaishnavism does mean that we worship as main deity Bhagwan Vishnu, BUT it doesn t mean we should disrespect devas or even vedas and puranas! all that is written in puranas and vedas is true, there are all the demigods and they deserve respect, especially a vaishnava, a true one, should worship and respect Mahadev Shiv Shankar, because He is the greatest of all Vaishnavas!
Krishna is taking about the consciousness that is beyond the realms of simplistic Senses and elusion that we all indulge in. Something that is PURE and unadulterated.
@dravidianwolf if a creator is so necessary given the existence of the universe, wouldn't that mean the creator must have had a creator? And that creator must also require a creator, since he also exists. So what does your religion tell you about the origins of the creator of the creator of the creator of the creator?
@rolltide51386 your argument fails because u assume our concept of "god" is like the west!
srry dude ..western atheism falls at the feet of VEDAS ...remember atheism as a school was 1st started in india...go study eastern atheism and u might have a chance!
why would a creator need to be created?
we have a translation problem...in vedic thought there is no CREATION ! only EMANATION a gigantic difference! congrats u found out the bible is a joke! youre playing with big dogs now puppy!
@dravidianwolf : I am a physicist by profession who works precisely on questions regarding early universe cosmology, creation theories etc, and there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of a creator. The evidence so far points towards a scenario of eternal inflation or Hawking-Hartle boundary conditions that have no distinct temporal beginning to the universe. Look them up. The best we can do is say the universe is God, in which case the word "God" is a meaningless substitution for universe.
@moradsaidi : The universe can actually be studied, empirically analyzed and understood. Substituting charged and romanticized words like "God" which means different things to different people unnecessarily mystifies and sets up obstacles for a cold understanding of what is.
Also, in this clip Krishna says, "In the heart of action you must remain free from all attachment." That's a confusing way to put it. A better way would be, "Engage in action but be free from attachment to the fruits of action."
@dravidianwolf : Yes, that is roughly what Krishna is trying to say. But he provides no evidence for it and therefore shouldn't be taken seriously. The human conscience, which is a part of the mind, for all we know is simply a kind of "software" running on wisps of protoplasm that have evolved on this planet. Seeing through the ego, which is also evolutionary software, that maintains the illusion of us being separate from the universe is the realization/liberation you speak of.
Most of you guys are acting like morons. You swear and use nasty language in the name of one religion to slander another religion. Grow up and get over it. Whether Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Jew, Pagan or Buddhist, the world will be a better place without all you bigots and fanatics!
@johnnybrown1884 ...Hi..good to know that atleast there is one sensible person here...I wish there were more people like you on this planet..tc..and GOD bless.
@johnnybrown1884 Actually, no. Religion brought CIVILIZATION and it will continue to be the basis of human civilization until no one knows when. "Religious" fundamentalists have ruined everything through misinterpretations and short-sightedness. What have atheists done other than to mock peoples' beliefs, their values, their traditions?
@johnnybrown1884 religion will always exist. Even if all religions budhism, christians, and muslims are gone new religions will form. religions based on politics, consumerism, science, or even celebrities. Those are even more dangerous because making a living human a God or a big brother could make a dystopia. A brave new world is based on actual plans elites wanted to make a reality.
This idiot think he is brahmin but become recognised and confiremed by many he is nothing but an agent newlife church and proved this chadu is mleecha,whos only ambition to make utter chaos.Now why he attack some one who is more knowledgeble in scripture? simply because inferior complex.That mean he know he loosing ground on philosophy so attack him personally.How sad?
@Narasamsha : Since you called this person a "mlechha", let me just say this, as a former Hindu: FUCK HINDUISM. THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER WITHOUT YOUR RELIGION. MUCH BETTER OFF. FUCK OFF.
@Narasamsha : I hope Hinduism, at least of the form that you seem to practice meet the same fate as Wahhabi Islam is doing today. It is abject ignorance, far worse than Islam, Christianity or any of the tribalistic Abrahamic crap that our species has to live with today. It won't be missed when, like all other forms of ignorance, shall be extinguished.
@Narasamsha : People like you, who conflate people's knowledge and content character with one's accident of birth, disgust me. But it is an ancient tradition in Hinduism. You make me proud to not be a Hindu anymore.
We r proud that the people like u who send their mom to mleecha leave our Sanatan dharma and convert to some chudanity or Incestlam.World is better place except such barbaric religion which spread hatred towards mankind,and instruct to kill other.From America to far east asia this Abrahamic religion spread through sword and hatred towards other.U now become part of this barbaric cult.
@Narasamsha : What makes you think I follow an Abrahamic religion? I just wrote that I think they're crap. You can't even read and you claim you understand Hinduism better than other people based on the accident of your birth! Fucking retard.
u not see the comment its about sanatan dharma not hindu dharma also by birth I m not hindu as I not live in the basin of Sindhu.By birth I m gangao,the person who lived in the basin of ganges.,I think ur mother fucked by me then u came so ur birth is an accident.Mleecha who not follow dharma.I used it to u when u attack our path.If u lost ur mental balance then u need doctor.
Also As I know knowledge made through knowledge,but now I know its made through brick,sand and cement,No need of further discussion with low minded mleecha.
“Moreover, it is correct that this name [Hindu] has been given to the original Aryan race of the region by Muslim invaders to humiliate them. In Persian, says our author, the word means slave, and according to Islam, all those who did not embrace Islam were termed as slaves.” (Maharishi Shri Dayanand Saraswati Aur Unka Kaam, edited by Lala Lajpat Rai, published in Lahore, 1898, in the Introduction)
Take even a common flower, that is finite enough; but who is there that can say he knows all about the flower? There is no possibility of anyone’s getting to the end of the knowledge about that one flower. The flower has become infinite - the flower which was finite to begin with.
Blah blah... copy-paste, I won't entertain. Show me what you have foolish shudra, tell me what you think, how deep can you think and what you are worth.
u also timepass entertainer mleecha,who not worthy of debating.The word Shudra come from the word Shabd that means sound primal being.Also mleecha has no knowledge only speak story of uncivilised world and a great achivement they claimed through copy and past work since last 500yrs.Ur the product of that copy past.First u copy arabian now stol our culture.
your language is deeply inssulting to purnaprag. is this how u treat people in real life ? i see ur comments on too many videos recently. first u went frum nepales to chinese, britain, usa, france nd so on. dnt u dare create fear and point flaws in ohter peoples nation u fuckin idiot. ur comments r absolutely crazy nd u need serius evaluation. plz control ur comentz nd ur way of thinkin. bye asshole.
For one to call a language insulting... your use of terms like that are quite contrary to what you seem to suggest. You complain about language - then you ought to watch your own.
@Shakti603 "As I said earliar, about Purnapragya, a debate cannot take place unless you manage to construct a reasonable sentence and attack DesiDude666 main points.Copying-Pasting won't get you anywhere in life!This is my last comment on this video!"So dear english master very polietly said "Pls give me one example where u talk about ur point?I just see u have a lunatic not control over ur anger and kiddy behaviour.Also u never read any thing just barking and seen urself like wall,Which cement?
In his essay, ‘The Open Secret’, Vivekananda1 writes, “Whichever way we turn in trying to understand things in their reality, if we analyse far enough,
we find that at last we come to a peculiar state of things, seemingly a contradiction:
So finally u lost it and called some one animal.Which ancestor of u calling opponent animal.Oh its may be dwi jas the two time cleaner of shit of mleecha.Charecter is the symbol of brahmin not birth or knowledge.So by def. of brahmin u urself proved ur not brahmin.Now In vedas the word brahman used very often to represent the ultimate.Now all r monoism,u not read vedas or not able to read sanskrit so u just a sham of creator and sintheory.Ur idiotness entertain us,go forward.hahahahahahahaha..
Nope, I did not. Foolish child - my very first point, search my comment if you can, was that you were an animal. I called you an animal, that you are - a very foolish one for that, in our very first exchange.
So, it's not a matter of losing it, it's a matter of you having something relevant to say. Basically, I am hardly left impressed with you, quite honestly speaking. You've reached the very limits of depth you think you possess, which to me is so shallow that it's worthless.
I read the bhagavad gita when i was in high school,there is alot to be learned in the dialog betwen krishna and arjuna, its very different then the bible or other myth,its more human
Yeah it's basically a different philosophy altogether - it purports that action is imperative - that said, we'll always act (in the right or whatever manner) - so how do you detach yourself from actions... probably gives you an impartial platform to think with so you can judge yourself better.
Inference can also be classified into 3 types: Purvavat (inferring an unperceived effect from a perceived cause), Sheshavat (inferring an unperceived cause from a perceived effect) and Samanyatodrishta (when inference is not based on causation but on uniformity of co-existence). A detailed analysis of error is also given, explaining when anumana could be false.
Inference, called Anumāna, It can be of two types - inference for oneself (Svarthanumana, where one does not need any formal procedure, and at the most the last three of their 5 steps), and inference for others (Parathanumana, which requires a systematic methodology of 5 steps).
Also, there are two modes or steps in perception, viz., Nirvikalpa, when one just perceives an object without being able to know its features, and Savikalpa, when one is able to clearly know an object. All laukika and alaukika pratyakshas are savikalpa. There is yet another stage called Pratyabhijñā, when one is able to re-recognise something on the basis of memory.
Extraordinary (Alaukika or Asādhārana), of three types, viz., Samanyalakshana (perceiving generality from a particular object), Jñānalakşana (when one sense organ can also perceive qualities not attributable to it, as when seeing a chili, one knows that it would be bitter or hot), and Yogaja (when certain human beings, from the power of Yoga, can perceive past, present and future and have supernatural abilities, either complete or some).
On inference and other definitions - if you do not possess knowledge, you do not. Don't plagiarize - if you have scholarship aspirations, don't steal someone else's work young man (your keyboard gives it away,).
Sure, you may not be a scholar in Indology today, that doesn't mean in 10 years you will still be yourself. Man changes, you can start now and then truly develop yourself into being the person you wish to be. Who knows, you have the interest - just discard the lies. Luck.
The very language was written by my forefathers... I have a background to prove it, a social structure that presents it and a inheritance system that has decreeded it...
You, on the other hand, are a shudra - who has hijacked our language and now comes to teach us what our forefathers meant to say - you foolish animal, let it be, this isn't yours, if you are inspired by it good, if you want to dictate it and exploit it for your own ends - leave it be. Foolish child.
Copying and pasting won't work with me - show what you are. Tell me what you can do. Is this all you have?
In a couple of exchanges and you reach the very limit of your mind? Learn dude, don't teach. It's not wrong to learn a thing or two - I bet if you tried hard enough, in 10 years or so even I could learn a thing or two from you. However - at this moment of time, this stage of your life, you are in no position to teach, let alone contemplate. Don't deceive others into this.
Oh idiot mleecha or yavana wat may be,R u delivering lecture for urself?Good now u understand that ur not worthy of debate so finally go and hide ur face in the dark church or mosq of ur ancestor.Created thing not worthy of debate with "Amritasya Putra".hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.......
As I said, copying and pasting doesn't work with me, you revolting animal. Show me the true threshold of what you can think off, how deep can you think and how long can you remain in there...
It's obvious, you are a liar and a shudra who deserves no respect.
Perception may be defined as sense-driven - observation makes it. If there is one reality, the result from observation is then one - not many because there is one truth.
It's like how you're deceiving people, once it is known - the truth shall just remain one - however you intend to manipulate people, there would just be one deception. No matter how you twist and twist words, you can't change that.
Pramana forms one part of a tripuţi (trio) concerning Pramā (the correct knowledge of any object arrived at by thorough reasoning, Sanskrit), namely,
1.Pramātā (< pramātŗ), the subject, the knower
2.Pramāņa, the means of obtaining the knowledge
3.Prameya, the object, the knowable
Modern Buddhist schools do not use these three distinct terms particularly, but instead employ the 'three spheres' (Sanskrit: trimandala; Tibetan: 'khor gsum):
Praman - or simple example - is observation. In your case, you offer nothing. You go on claiming advaita philosophy when that same philosophy makes erratic claims like your founding philosopher, this Shankararcharya was incarnation of Shiva
Where does your praman disappear in that? Gone with the wind? For all that small talk, you're selling asatya - what are you pasting Buddhism b/s to me for? There is nothing remotely buddhist in this conversation unless you now claim to be one.
Atman, when taught by an inferior person, is not easily
comprehended, because It is diversely regarded by disputants.
But when It is taught by him who has become one with Atman,So mleech not worthy to think about the self.So they said"{1:1} In the beginning God created the heaven and the
earth. {1:2} And the earth was without form, and void; and
darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of
If you think: "I know Brahman well," then surely you know but little of Its
form; you know only Its form as conditioned by man or by the gods. Therefore Brahman,
even now, is worthy of your inquiry.Now the instruction about Brahman with regard to the individual self: The mind, as it were,goes to Brahman. The seeker, by means of the mind, communes with It intimately again
and again. This should be the volition of his mind.
Bollocks - just because matter can be minimized in abstract form doesn't mean physical structures don't exist. Your arguments just plain demonstrate an imbecility you find with a 0.10 cent brained fool living off begging in the streets of Calcutta or outside a temple.
matter can be minimized in abstract form doesn't mean physical structures don't exist.-so matter exist means there exist some thing where ultimate not present,thus ur argument proved that anyone control that matter that mean without god universe may exist and thus by falacy u proved there exist no god.Which totally opposite of vedas teaching and thus u proved ur empty head has no thought.mleecha read the scripture properly.
That Brahman is called Tadvana, the Adorable of all; It should be worshipped by the name
of Tadvana. All creatures desire him who worships Brahman thus.Austerities, self−restraint, and sacrificial rites are Its feet, and the Vedas are all Its limbs.Truth is Its abode.He who thus knows this Upanishad shakes off all sins and becomes firmly established in the infinite and the highest Heaven, yea, the highest Heaven.This heaven is the ultimate truth not sin theory of ur ancestor.
But dont know the relation between god and Sprit,and when spirit is called self?
So another Abrahamic religion said "And they ask you (O Muhammad ) concerning the Rûh (the Spirit); Say: "The Rûh (the Spirit): it is one of the things, the knowledge of which is only with my Lord. And of knowledge, you (mankind) have been given only a little."
Utter lies, teaching PhDs... right. Children without any kind of education - I pity and probably blame your parents for the education imparted with you.
Also mlechha so that you are a hypocrite mlechha who rejects Sanatan dharma but retains authority for himself.
Ur little idiot useless brain r somuch frustraded that u mixture the vedantic thought with some uncivilised religion of raskel and belive in virgine can deliver child.
When in a hole, don't dig. As far as your background goes, I contest your assertions and argue that you represent anything but scholastic assessment of literature in philosophy.
You probably are a pretender, a shudra with a loud mouth but an empty brain. But it's not too late, start reading and perhaps in 10 years time, you may catch up and really end up teaching someone...
This is the difference between Dwijas and shudras, there is a reason why someone has to be born twice (brahmin first).
Also chitpawan clean the shit of christian like Pranab Mukherjee.After cleaning the shit of mlechha they called themselves "Dwi Jas" meaning two time cleaner.hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...................
Insecure child - do you think I don't see the insecurity behind you posts. As I said, I don't need your approval to be a dwija - unlike you , I am not pretending.
Seems that you have reached the very limits of your ability to discuss with sensibility. Not surprising though, shudras are like that - now I hope you understand why I wrote you off in the first place - I saw through your abilities.
Words can tell you more about a person than you can ever know.
Insecure child - do you think I don't see the insecurity behind you posts. As I said, I don't need your approval to be a Vediantist - unlike you , I am not pretending.Seems that you have reached the very limits of your ability to discuss with sensibility. Not surprising though, mlechha are like that - now I hope you understand why I wrote you off in the first place - I saw through your abilities.
Words can tell you more about a person than you can ever know.
Some people think wat he say one must follow without verification,but they forget their own conclusion on observation.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..........
"without verification no debate exist----As u say u love debate so u must need authentication to destroy my falacy.But after some comment with u,I know ur big Zero,in Sanatan Scripture.U need Griffith,a non indian christian,hahahahahahahaha.......................
Also u thing a object created twice without destruction?hahahahahaha....
Right, you write this in English - you try and lie to me in English - do you expect me to trust that you can tell a mandala apart from another? Foolish child, grow up already. If you truly 'teach' in scholarly 'circles' Griffith might have been your best english translation standard.
Griffith's pretty close to the real thing. In all honesty, I don't have to destroy anything, you seem to be doing a pretty good job at destroying yourself very well 'professor'.
Griffith was zero in Sanskrit language as u so u not know the meaning of Sama and follow the translation of some mlechha.As a mlechha child u dont understand the internal meaning of the hymns of vedas.First purify urself mlechha,then come to us.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.................................
Right, now you are reviving older terms like mleccha. Who are you to even use these terms?
Don't you reject varna - if so, how can you be in the position to call someone that, you foolish child. By now, it's clear that you have a $2 brain, you have no idea about what they teach 'to PhD students'... since they use Griffith as a authority in major Indology departments around the world - and that you are a hypocrite shudra who rejects varna but retains authority for himself.
@DesiDude666 U idiot griffiith translation like some hindu fanatic translet Bible.Idiot its full of error and all Indian university and Sanskrite toll reject it as the work of funatic chadu.Also ur brain has no value.I some time suprise is it really exist or empty from birth.I said Griffith not know Sanskrite properly,his education of sanskrite like some nursery stuident describing the theory of boolean.Also mlechha not compare with varna.Its indicate the people outside vedic religion.
It's obvious you have no idea what Indology is all about. I think it's high time you graduated with a real degree. Conversations with you are a joke.
Seems you have reached your limits... education, perhaps in 10 years and you may be fit for discussion. Currently, you're a wimp, not even worth the breath I breath, will all due respect. I will cease this with you now, have a nice day - be happy, you have the final say kid.
For those reading this and wish to learn more, Griffith was an impartial translator accepted by both Western and the Eastern scholars. He derives his interpretations from Sayana, a young Brahmin Prime Minister in a kingdom of India who provided the most impartial critique of the Rg Ved that has been recorded.
Rg Ved is a remarkable document, composed of mandalas, written in different time settings. Famous rishis such as Vashisht and Visvamitra are credited.
Its not Sayana its Madhava ,the prime minister of vijaynagaram.Read history properly psycho missionary.Sayan was the younger brother of Madhava.There is another rishi u forget Rishi euloush(his father was brahmin but mother was lower cast not brahmin.Also Rig veda compose more than 8000 yrs ago,when Saraswati river not dried up.Also some sayan vasya has some critical fault.for example "mayukh" He translet "mountain".but in Panini its called "the ray of sun".
No, it's Sayana - please don't impose this wikipedia b/s on me. But the positive thing is that 'Mr. Professor' has started reading because of me. This is the influence of a Dwija child. When we're around, we should encourage knowledge.
Sayana is held up amongst scholarly circles because of his impartial assessment. He is probably an atheist, though that's disputed, so his views are noted for observation rather than interpretation.
Its not Sayana its Madhava ,the prime minister of vijaynagaram.Read history properly psycho missionary.Sayan was the younger brother of Madhava.After resignation as PM ,madhava become Sankaracarya of Kamakoti pittham.Also Sayana got inspiration from his elder brother Madhava,known as Madhavacharya,the writer of Collection of Indian philosophy.Later Bhamati bachaspati Misra right the vasya of brahmasutra following Sankara vasya.Also u not answer my questions.
As I said, I don't believe in Shankaracharya and his philosophy. On Sayana - so good that you're picking up information from wikipedia - so what? What are you trying to do here, prove to me that you are well-read? What is your question anyway?
I hope you know that you've lost all credibility in this discourse with your inability to communicate, demonstrate competency of any kind and even write properly.
Simple enough, don't add to our material with your contemplations. Good that it inspires you, all the best. But don't misrepresent what is essentially our heritage. Today, when I hear concepts of buddhist 'origins' - how maya or dharma or asceticism or meditation are buddhist concepts in the west - it fuels anger.
Because these aren't buddhist concepts, they are dharmic concepts. Our knowledge and literature are stolen by new-age wannabes such as yourself. You guys are simply not qualified.
Without argument u used idiotic comment.If u not correct u used abusive language like idiot brahmin done.As u say ur very qualified in rigveda pls mention some hymns on ur comment.Ur argument proved ur just raskel.Know first I teaches vedas in very reputed university.(due to personal identity,i not say the name of university).Now I m guide of many Ph.D student of vedas.so never try to hide ur knowledge to use such primitive talk of cheap purahit.
Wow... PhD students... so what you're a teacher... and I am supposed to be stumped?
You teach...? I am a dwija you foolish person. By concept of varna - I inherit all of this. You are using the work of my ancestors 'Dr.' Your mastery over language and even vedas has left some stark questions. You're like a person walking naked thinking he has his clothes on.
Foolish child, lay off things you don't comprehend.
Never copy Lyev Nikolayevich Tolstoy,Know ur the well wisher of missionary and delibaretly spoke lie,but failed,U r not dwija,u not even know the meaning of dwija,Also from "nirghantu sabdakusha",Sama come from the word "Somano".the mantra of rigveda "Somano mantra samiti somanini,somano hi tatha susahasati....."
So Sama donot mean ""Sam" = citations in a rhythm and "Ved" = knowledge.".U suck Sanskrite.Idiot know first maxmullar never able to realise the meaning of hymns.
Tolstoy... wow. You seem to know history like the back of your hand, like you seem to know the Yajurved. Dwija = twice born. As I said, I don't need your approval to know what I am. It is frauds like you who seek approval, not the likes of us Dwijas.
And you foolish child, do you think dwijas rely on Max muller? It's clear that you are a liar - Rg Ved's authoritative translation in scholastic circles was by Griffith *not* Muller. Foolish child. Learn don't boast.
If u have problem with buddhist u may debate with them and its known to all when buddhist debate with Sanatan dharmi they lost,from kumaril bhatta to Sancaracarya,they lost.
I don't see any difference between you and the Buddhists - quite honestly speaking. Though I have to admit - I see buddhists as the core issues for conceptual plagiarism. At least the Christians acknowledge the old testament, the Buddhists have plagiarized at free will - stealing even Sanskrit itself to give themselves some authenticity.
No dwija can ever just take this blatant asatya (as you have attempted with varna) and stealing of knowledge (buddhists) lightly.
first came bhudda who was an incarnation of maha vishnu to preach non violence which was the most important. then came sankracharya, who taught the acceptance of the vedas again, then came chaitanya mahaprabhu who founded the sankirtana movement.
Remember complex life assumes gunas (natural traits) - and if you state that nirgun (formless traitless) *origins* exist for gunas, I might agree but if you suggest that nirguna properties diminish gunas - I would say that you lie.
Because observation cannot be discounted - and that you just don't know if matter or quantum particles at that level do not have an traits. Perhaps even a quantum particle has a trait since all existence has a standard and constant trait as guna.
There is a number called kissing number and ur just follow the rule of that.U never said a valid argument just lost the way who is shudra or who is brahmin?An useless idiotness.We know a brahmin swip the lactrin by ur def.He is more knowledgeble than professor.First measure ur brain then come to me.Although ur "untouchable shudra" in our knowledge.Who not know the simple logical statement and find equation like the student of undergraduate class.First learn it then debate.idiot.
Sure, some brahmins are scum of the Earth. Though, historically, Shudras became shudras because they were primarily dog-eaters and would eat human carcasses. Funny how these dalit groups do not mention this. But regardless, there isn't any biological difference between a shudra and a brahmin. I don't agree that a brahmin is better than a shudra, a dwija is.
Don't pretend to have an equation. You know that you are a liar and a cheat. It looks like you're the idiot around here, eh?
Yes observation can be discounted,its called countabily infinite.so ur logic just void .Also quantum is an object of physics and by no means physics exist without math and by no means math exist without logic.For this first know the region,then find its Analytic or non Analytic.
Wow, can you name just one thing that may be observed and is known to be infinite. Just one thing... this is exactly what I am saying. You are simply not qualified to inherit what has first been the work of my forefathers. Sure, not all are qualified, but some of us are.
And it is greatly disturbing that foolish people such as yourself now represent our work which was never even authorized in the first place. It's the likes of you that gave birth to Buddhism/Jainism.
U not answer my question and proceeding further in rig veda and comment a statement without giving the hymns.First ur error look like Some idiot mollaha.In yajur veda clearly stated "All this is for habitation by the Lord, whatsoever is individual universe of movement in the universal motion. By that renounced
thou shouldst enjoy; lust not after any man's possession."
I am sorry, I don't see you in any way qualified to quote any veda. To confirm your fallacy, I would clearly state the concept of 'lord' is basically what exists. Because, as far as the truth goes, vedas purport pantheism - not monotheism that you advaitis purport.
If you don't know, you don't know. Pretending to know simply gives you away as an idiot yourself. No offense of course, but really, you look like a complete fool doing so - vedas are brahmin literature. Don't use them.
There is no math in the Yajur veda. And besides, I seek specialization of the Rg Ved/Samved. Our lineage only specialize in two veds, considering the two are very very similar, I do not specialize in the Yajurved.
Besides, do not quote any of the vedas if you cannot accord respect to the lineage or the identity of the authors. I am sure you have plenty of shudra saints and pseudo scholars to quote. Don't use our information to misrepresent our forefathers, a simple enough position
One hand u said "I do not specialize in the Yajurved" and other hand u said "There is no math in the Yajur veda." U not contradict ur position?And contradiction arise confusion as ur comment.Have u any proved that vedas written by ancestor of todays brahmin?Ans. no.First know vedas not represent castism its the puranic era when castism originated.Do u know wat is the meaning of Sam?
You are the professor here... don't make me laugh. Don't assume things... though I don't find the need to stump people, I'll let you sit the high horse for now. You can find the entire collection of the vedas on sacred texts - if you didn't know that.
Don't lie - you don't know diddly squat about the Yajur veda - and you have obviously not read the Smritis.
I really have nothing to say to you, apart from that you're a lying shudra. Who knows *nothing*.
Sorry... I will hit you...(not it you)
natgus1 2 weeks ago
Reminds me of these two verses from Baudelaire: "Je te frapperai sans colère. Et sans haine, comme un boucher". I will it you without anger and without hate, like a butcher.
natgus1 2 weeks ago
What does he mean "victory and defeat are the same"? How so?
JamariLaw316 1 month ago in playlist Mahabharata [Peter Brook]
@JamariLaw316 Because defeat and victory are both sides of the same coin. In the way that in victory, there is always defeat, as in defeat there is always victory. You cannot have one without having the other. At least, this is the way I understand it.
Your biggest victory is also the moment of your biggest defeat, because at the same time you won, you lost something else. Perhaps it is simply all the effort you put in winning and that is not there anymore...or seems futile.
natgus1 2 weeks ago
@natgus1 You will find the same kind of reasoning in Frank Herbert "Dune Messiah" when Paul Muad'ib is asking "what should I do", and someone answers him "decide"... even if that means being unfair. This is exactly the same dilemna Arjuna has to deal with.
natgus1 2 weeks ago
The original script relating to this segment represents the greatest gift to humanity.... Yet so few understand it.... Even fewer appreciate it.
oneoctavelow 2 months ago
Watched the whole movie and can recommend - very moving -
arunachala1 2 months ago
What most of you argue about is not religion but mechanics. Men are mechanical, life is mechanical. The conversation between Arjuna and Krishna is one that takes place within each man every day... do I, or do I not? The conflict takes place within and ones actions are the result of each battle. The illusion, therefore, is that "I am doing", for sincere introspection will show that "it is done through me."
Imagine that, you are merely a witness to your actions in a wind-up universe.
SamFreedom 2 months ago
The Baghavad Gita,so much is learned from this text,Krishna talking to Arjuna,as another great man talking to Peter
deni1149 2 months ago
Forget the religious discussion - this whole film is actually an example of brilliant classical-style acting all around, as well as a director whose interpretations of Shakespeare have been particularly innovative. I especially came to admire Vittorio Mezzogiorno (who portrays Arjuna) because of this film.
gaelicviking 3 months ago 4
i am a christian and i like reading and watching epic stories or movies.... But seeing people fighting in the name of religion is so weird!
I am a christian and watching all this defintely does not make me less of a christian!
People should learn to apreciate the good things in life instead of being narrowminded! :/
Lee6273 3 months ago
@Lee6273 Your religion has committed the most violence out of any.
powerfulnun 2 months ago
@powerfulnun You are talking bout people not the religion k.. wealth and power makes people crazy.. i am not in suport of them.... but the ones who were good and really folowed the bible were less.... gpo and read your history!
what are you hindu??? Gosh! many of ma frns are hindus. but if you have to talk bout crimes and all then i can also mention how many people you guys have kiled coz of ur intolerance!
Lee6273 2 months ago
@powerfulnun That are Muslims buddy, not Christians...
AssassinsCreed43va 1 month ago
@AssassinsCreed43va Youve never heard of the crusaders? You think there werent Christian massacres? Have you ever heard of September Dawn? The only other religious slaughter committed in a September religiously in America? No I dont mean just Muslims. Learn your own history.
powerfulnun 1 month ago
This petty bickering is saddening, on the page of such a beautiful film, you ought to be ashamed. Watch the film, whatever creed, colour or culture, it does not matter, this is a poem describing an inner struggle which the whole of humanity can learn from, your bickering proves that you are not really people of faith, you are overcome by ego, good luck. all love, H x
hbomb4223 3 months ago
Can anybody sum up Peter Brook? What's he all about? How can you explain that he is a theatre practitioner, although he has no theories he just goes with the flow!? Very confused... Any help would be much appreciated!
stephmp89 4 months ago
@People - Insulting religions, holy books & Gods is not the 'human' way. GROW UP & Learn to RESPECT.
greeva12 4 months ago
@vivalanap
much better than 99% of the Bollywood versions that look they was made in a school.
topbluffa1 5 months ago
There should be a new rule: Always go to religious videos to find the most ignorant people on youtube. Finding them in their natural habitat leads to excellent observation opportunities as they display ignorance and faggotry for all to see.
hock3ydud3 6 months ago 2
so inspiring
DOYDARK 7 months ago in playlist Peliculas - Movies
thanks this was beautiful, was this from a film.
gnosisgnosis1 7 months ago
hasnt anyone uploaded this whole thing on youtube?
niteshmurti 8 months ago
Beautiful!!!
xenakis9 8 months ago
@vivalanap Peter Brookes aged ancient wisdom master. Are Krishna seig heil !
elyurita 8 months ago
This is beyond the beautiful........
13eugubino459 9 months ago
Now we come to our point about castism,When I declear I m free from body,Actually I decleared I not belive the maya or illusion of lord like so called headless idiot,Who think atman can be destroyed or created.There is a space within the heart; in it lies the Person consisting
of mind, immortal and luminous.Realise that person u find peace otherwise live in knowledge of duality.
purnapragya 9 months ago
Another type of negation or absence is also being ruled out by the insertion of the term "traikAlika" in the definition. This is to counter an objection as follows. There is an absence of a thing
such as a pot before it comes into being, called the prAgabhAva. After the pot is destroyed, there is another type of absence (abhAva) called "dhvaMsa-abhAva."
purnapragya 9 months ago
Actually, the mention of "having it as the qualifier" is for the purpose of ruling out something that is trivial (fictitious entity) and a definition that is too wide (ativyApti).
purnapragya 9 months ago
This alternative definition is based on shruti statements such as "neha nAnAsti kiJNchana", as BrahmAnanda says in his gauDabrahmAnandI, "neha nAnAstI"tyAdishrutyarthe vivadamAnaM prati sAdhyAntaramAha".
purnapragya 9 months ago
The mithyAtva of the world is akin to the illusion of the snake over a rope or silver in nacre. Upon realizing that the snake is illusory, one exclaims "The snake is unreal. The snake was never there to begin with, it is not there now, and it will never be there in the future!" This is the mithyAtva (unreality) of the world that is being talked about.
purnapragya 9 months ago
Alternatively, mithyAtva (unreality) of something is that which is the counter-positive or absential adjunct (pratiyogin) of an absolute negation (a negation for all three periods of time, past, present, and future) in the very substratum where it (the thing) is cognized.
This alternative definition is based on shruti statements such as "neha nAnAsti kiJNchana"
purnapragya 9 months ago
this is bad, should watch the 1989 version in hindi, much better tory and acting
bigheadedm 10 months ago
Only Knowledge of the self makes you slowly understand. I saw this 15 years ago, thought it was nice, Now that I practice, I weep in joy. Thank you Peter Brook. Love your work always did, saw you in Athens. I salut you great master Peter Brook
with love Lena
soulsalike 10 months ago
Krsna says in the Gita that he is more close and more satisfied with those who revere and worship His Bhaktas then those who worship only Him and don´t give due respect to other vaishnavas. so u see, the misconceptions of iskcon are many, but the one that hurts me the most is that u should not worship Shiva, but u must see God in your Guru who sais that a vaishnava, the greatest one, should not be worshiped? cmon! Har Har Mahadev! Jay Sri Krsna! Jay Vedas and Puranas!
VrindavaniDeviDasi 10 months ago
iskcon is spreading misconceptions on vaishnavism. vaishnavism does mean that we worship as main deity Bhagwan Vishnu, BUT it doesn t mean we should disrespect devas or even vedas and puranas! all that is written in puranas and vedas is true, there are all the demigods and they deserve respect, especially a vaishnava, a true one, should worship and respect Mahadev Shiv Shankar, because He is the greatest of all Vaishnavas!
VrindavaniDeviDasi 10 months ago
@dravidianwolf vaishnavaism is more pure than hinduism
persusjackson108 10 months ago 2
brilliant brilliant
mechagodscylla 10 months ago
i wanna make sweet sweet love to all these sweaty men
XtremeXboxer 11 months ago
gay
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crowstars 11 months ago
Krishna is taking about the consciousness that is beyond the realms of simplistic Senses and elusion that we all indulge in. Something that is PURE and unadulterated.
rajput330 11 months ago
@dravidianwolf if a creator is so necessary given the existence of the universe, wouldn't that mean the creator must have had a creator? And that creator must also require a creator, since he also exists. So what does your religion tell you about the origins of the creator of the creator of the creator of the creator?
rolltide51386 11 months ago
@rolltide51386 your argument fails because u assume our concept of "god" is like the west!
srry dude ..western atheism falls at the feet of VEDAS ...remember atheism as a school was 1st started in india...go study eastern atheism and u might have a chance!
why would a creator need to be created?
we have a translation problem...in vedic thought there is no CREATION ! only EMANATION a gigantic difference! congrats u found out the bible is a joke! youre playing with big dogs now puppy!
WORLDARYANREVIVAL 11 months ago 18
@rolltide51386
ahem...
what is that which cannot be created or destroyed??... its energy and what is energy? no one knows..
what can energy do?.. everything
i hope u have enough brains to understand that.
anirudhkrishnamani 10 months ago
jai shri krishna
happysoul745 11 months ago
@dravidianwolf : I am a physicist by profession who works precisely on questions regarding early universe cosmology, creation theories etc, and there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of a creator. The evidence so far points towards a scenario of eternal inflation or Hawking-Hartle boundary conditions that have no distinct temporal beginning to the universe. Look them up. The best we can do is say the universe is God, in which case the word "God" is a meaningless substitution for universe.
geodesicks 1 year ago
@geodesicks
universe is a meaningless substitution for God...
moradsaidi 11 months ago
@moradsaidi : The universe can actually be studied, empirically analyzed and understood. Substituting charged and romanticized words like "God" which means different things to different people unnecessarily mystifies and sets up obstacles for a cold understanding of what is.
geodesicks 11 months ago
Also, in this clip Krishna says, "In the heart of action you must remain free from all attachment." That's a confusing way to put it. A better way would be, "Engage in action but be free from attachment to the fruits of action."
geodesicks 1 year ago
@dravidianwolf : Yes, that is roughly what Krishna is trying to say. But he provides no evidence for it and therefore shouldn't be taken seriously. The human conscience, which is a part of the mind, for all we know is simply a kind of "software" running on wisps of protoplasm that have evolved on this planet. Seeing through the ego, which is also evolutionary software, that maintains the illusion of us being separate from the universe is the realization/liberation you speak of.
geodesicks 1 year ago
Most of you guys are acting like morons. You swear and use nasty language in the name of one religion to slander another religion. Grow up and get over it. Whether Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Jew, Pagan or Buddhist, the world will be a better place without all you bigots and fanatics!
johnnybrown1884 1 year ago 31
@johnnybrown1884 ...Hi..good to know that atleast there is one sensible person here...I wish there were more people like you on this planet..tc..and GOD bless.
dine4uonly 10 months ago
@johnnybrown1884 Actually, no. Religion brought CIVILIZATION and it will continue to be the basis of human civilization until no one knows when. "Religious" fundamentalists have ruined everything through misinterpretations and short-sightedness. What have atheists done other than to mock peoples' beliefs, their values, their traditions?
Sanzo84 7 months ago
@johnnybrown1884 religion will always exist. Even if all religions budhism, christians, and muslims are gone new religions will form. religions based on politics, consumerism, science, or even celebrities. Those are even more dangerous because making a living human a God or a big brother could make a dystopia. A brave new world is based on actual plans elites wanted to make a reality.
FernandoTorrera 4 months ago
Simply the Most beautiful and enlightening movie I have ever watched.
all other comments are meaningless.
Cloisim 1 year ago
@Cloisim I agree...!
abele888 8 months ago
I think you can have this thread, it's all yours. Gone from enlightening to interesting to mundane to utter chaos.
Enjoy yourselves kiddos. Ciao.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666 Idiot has many name one of this gay chadu.
Narasamsha 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
This idiot think he is brahmin but become recognised and confiremed by many he is nothing but an agent newlife church and proved this chadu is mleecha,whos only ambition to make utter chaos.Now why he attack some one who is more knowledgeble in scripture? simply because inferior complex.That mean he know he loosing ground on philosophy so attack him personally.How sad?
Narasamsha 1 year ago
@Narasamsha : Since you called this person a "mlechha", let me just say this, as a former Hindu: FUCK HINDUISM. THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER WITHOUT YOUR RELIGION. MUCH BETTER OFF. FUCK OFF.
geodesicks 1 year ago
@Narasamsha : I hope Hinduism, at least of the form that you seem to practice meet the same fate as Wahhabi Islam is doing today. It is abject ignorance, far worse than Islam, Christianity or any of the tribalistic Abrahamic crap that our species has to live with today. It won't be missed when, like all other forms of ignorance, shall be extinguished.
geodesicks 1 year ago
@Narasamsha : People like you, who conflate people's knowledge and content character with one's accident of birth, disgust me. But it is an ancient tradition in Hinduism. You make me proud to not be a Hindu anymore.
geodesicks 1 year ago
@geodesicks
We r proud that the people like u who send their mom to mleecha leave our Sanatan dharma and convert to some chudanity or Incestlam.World is better place except such barbaric religion which spread hatred towards mankind,and instruct to kill other.From America to far east asia this Abrahamic religion spread through sword and hatred towards other.U now become part of this barbaric cult.
Narasamsha 1 year ago
@Narasamsha : What makes you think I follow an Abrahamic religion? I just wrote that I think they're crap. You can't even read and you claim you understand Hinduism better than other people based on the accident of your birth! Fucking retard.
geodesicks 1 year ago
@geodesicks
hahahahahahahahahaha..........................................................
u not see the comment its about sanatan dharma not hindu dharma also by birth I m not hindu as I not live in the basin of Sindhu.By birth I m gangao,the person who lived in the basin of ganges.,I think ur mother fucked by me then u came so ur birth is an accident.Mleecha who not follow dharma.I used it to u when u attack our path.If u lost ur mental balance then u need doctor.
Narasamsha 1 year ago
@Narasamsha : English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?
geodesicks 1 year ago
@geodesicks So u fuck ur mom.Pls explain how u do it?
Narasamsha 1 year ago
Kalo'smi!
KaligulaLoves 1 year ago
Also As I know knowledge made through knowledge,but now I know its made through brick,sand and cement,No need of further discussion with low minded mleecha.
purnapragya 1 year ago
‘Hindu’. This word, which is a foreign innovation, is not made use by any of our
Sanskrit writers and revered Acharyas in their works. It seems that political
power was responsible for insisting upon continuous use of the word Hindu. The
word Hindu is found, of course, in Persian literature. Hindu-e-falak means ‘the
black of the sky’ and ‘Saturn’. In the Arabic lan
purnapragya 1 year ago
“Moreover, it is correct that this name [Hindu] has been given to the original Aryan race of the region by Muslim invaders to humiliate them. In Persian, says our author, the word means slave, and according to Islam, all those who did not embrace Islam were termed as slaves.” (Maharishi Shri Dayanand Saraswati Aur Unka Kaam, edited by Lala Lajpat Rai, published in Lahore, 1898, in the Introduction)
purnapragya 1 year ago
The western scholars, and historians, too, have failed to
trace the true name of this Brahmanland, a vast continent-like country, and
therefore, they have contented themselves by calling it by that meaningless term
‘Hindu’.
purnapragya 1 year ago
desidude666 aka Shakti603,know first"Hinduim not a religion but community who live beside the river sindhu.As written be R.
N. Suryanarayan in his book Universal Religion (p.1-2, published in Mysore in
1952), “The political situation of our country from centuries past, say 20-25
centuries, has made it very difficult to understand the nature of this nation
and its religion.
purnapragya 1 year ago
Take even a common flower, that is finite enough; but who is there that can say he knows all about the flower? There is no possibility of anyone’s getting to the end of the knowledge about that one flower. The flower has become infinite - the flower which was finite to begin with.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Blah blah... copy-paste, I won't entertain. Show me what you have foolish shudra, tell me what you think, how deep can you think and what you are worth.
Read, read - grow.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
u also timepass entertainer mleecha,who not worthy of debating.The word Shudra come from the word Shabd that means sound primal being.Also mleecha has no knowledge only speak story of uncivilised world and a great achivement they claimed through copy and past work since last 500yrs.Ur the product of that copy past.First u copy arabian now stol our culture.
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Shakti603 1 year ago
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@Shakti603
your language is deeply inssulting to purnaprag. is this how u treat people in real life ? i see ur comments on too many videos recently. first u went frum nepales to chinese, britain, usa, france nd so on. dnt u dare create fear and point flaws in ohter peoples nation u fuckin idiot. ur comments r absolutely crazy nd u need serius evaluation. plz control ur comentz nd ur way of thinkin. bye asshole.
gadhatable 1 year ago
@gadhatable
For one to call a language insulting... your use of terms like that are quite contrary to what you seem to suggest. You complain about language - then you ought to watch your own.
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Shakti603 1 year ago
@Shakti603 "As I said earliar, about Purnapragya, a debate cannot take place unless you manage to construct a reasonable sentence and attack DesiDude666 main points.Copying-Pasting won't get you anywhere in life!This is my last comment on this video!"So dear english master very polietly said "Pls give me one example where u talk about ur point?I just see u have a lunatic not control over ur anger and kiddy behaviour.Also u never read any thing just barking and seen urself like wall,Which cement?
purnapragya 1 year ago
@DesiDude666 Aaaahhhhh so this is where purnapragya got his ultimate truth
lol lol lol
desidud666 aka shakti603 = warriorofssf ROFL should I call it fear? Some ass spanking and all the old wounds start to hurt or something?
WarriorOfSSF 1 year ago
something which our reason cannot grasp and yet is a fact. We take
up something - we know it is finite; but as soon as we begin to analyse it, it
leads us beyond our reason, and we never find an end to all its qualities, its
possibilities, its powers, its relations. It has become infinite.
purnapragya 1 year ago
In his essay, ‘The Open Secret’, Vivekananda1 writes, “Whichever way we turn in trying to understand things in their reality, if we analyse far enough,
we find that at last we come to a peculiar state of things, seemingly a contradiction:
purnapragya 1 year ago
We cannot say that our knowledge of anything is complete. Even a grain of
sand, or the petal of a flower seems to be infinite. In science and mathematics,
it often happens that a fresh perspective can open new vistas of knowledge on
aspects that humanity may deem “known” or complete.
purnapragya 1 year ago
Again, this verse is highly relevant to the modern research student. Everything
around us is infinite. We cannot say that we know everything about even
a grain of sand. It reminds us of the famous poem of William Blake.
To see the world in a grain of sand, and heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.
purnapragya 1 year ago
But the student continues in the next verse. I do not think I know It well.
Nor do I think that I do not know It. He knows It who knows that It is other
than the unknown and the known. The teacher’s reply is the following. He
knows who knows It not. He knows It not who knows. It is unknown to the one
who knows. It is known to the one who does not know.
purnapragya 1 year ago
The student replies: I think I know Brahman.
This is an important verse that has relevance to the modern spirit of research.
When we say we know something, we have put an end to our knowledge of it.
Psychologically, we have closed the apertures of the mind in that direction. Our
attitude may determine the extent to which we can open our sensory apparatus,
including the mind, in order to gain knowledge.
purnapragya 1 year ago
So finally u lost it and called some one animal.Which ancestor of u calling opponent animal.Oh its may be dwi jas the two time cleaner of shit of mleecha.Charecter is the symbol of brahmin not birth or knowledge.So by def. of brahmin u urself proved ur not brahmin.Now In vedas the word brahman used very often to represent the ultimate.Now all r monoism,u not read vedas or not able to read sanskrit so u just a sham of creator and sintheory.Ur idiotness entertain us,go forward.hahahahahahahaha..
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Nope, I did not. Foolish child - my very first point, search my comment if you can, was that you were an animal. I called you an animal, that you are - a very foolish one for that, in our very first exchange.
So, it's not a matter of losing it, it's a matter of you having something relevant to say. Basically, I am hardly left impressed with you, quite honestly speaking. You've reached the very limits of depth you think you possess, which to me is so shallow that it's worthless.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
I read the bhagavad gita when i was in high school,there is alot to be learned in the dialog betwen krishna and arjuna, its very different then the bible or other myth,its more human
fraterlucifer888 1 year ago
@fraterlucifer888
Yeah it's basically a different philosophy altogether - it purports that action is imperative - that said, we'll always act (in the right or whatever manner) - so how do you detach yourself from actions... probably gives you an impartial platform to think with so you can judge yourself better.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
Inference can also be classified into 3 types: Purvavat (inferring an unperceived effect from a perceived cause), Sheshavat (inferring an unperceived cause from a perceived effect) and Samanyatodrishta (when inference is not based on causation but on uniformity of co-existence). A detailed analysis of error is also given, explaining when anumana could be false.
purnapragya 1 year ago
Inference, called Anumāna, It can be of two types - inference for oneself (Svarthanumana, where one does not need any formal procedure, and at the most the last three of their 5 steps), and inference for others (Parathanumana, which requires a systematic methodology of 5 steps).
purnapragya 1 year ago
Also, there are two modes or steps in perception, viz., Nirvikalpa, when one just perceives an object without being able to know its features, and Savikalpa, when one is able to clearly know an object. All laukika and alaukika pratyakshas are savikalpa. There is yet another stage called Pratyabhijñā, when one is able to re-recognise something on the basis of memory.
purnapragya 1 year ago
Extraordinary (Alaukika or Asādhārana), of three types, viz., Samanyalakshana (perceiving generality from a particular object), Jñānalakşana (when one sense organ can also perceive qualities not attributable to it, as when seeing a chili, one knows that it would be bitter or hot), and Yogaja (when certain human beings, from the power of Yoga, can perceive past, present and future and have supernatural abilities, either complete or some).
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
On inference and other definitions - if you do not possess knowledge, you do not. Don't plagiarize - if you have scholarship aspirations, don't steal someone else's work young man (your keyboard gives it away,).
Sure, you may not be a scholar in Indology today, that doesn't mean in 10 years you will still be yourself. Man changes, you can start now and then truly develop yourself into being the person you wish to be. Who knows, you have the interest - just discard the lies. Luck.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha..............................
ur speaking the word of mleecha,When some one lost that type of word come out.Grow kids,ur now talk with the Purnaprajanam Darshan.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
I suggest instead of 'teaching university classes' pass high school English or something Mr. Professor.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
So ur knowledge sucks Sanskrit=englih!First attained nursary class then come to us.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
The very language was written by my forefathers... I have a background to prove it, a social structure that presents it and a inheritance system that has decreeded it...
You, on the other hand, are a shudra - who has hijacked our language and now comes to teach us what our forefathers meant to say - you foolish animal, let it be, this isn't yours, if you are inspired by it good, if you want to dictate it and exploit it for your own ends - leave it be. Foolish child.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
screw the caste system im a brahmana by birth but i reounced that and became a vaishnava, follow the teachings of chaitanya mahaprabhu. GO ISKCON!
persusjackson108 10 months ago
@DesiDude666 Once we identify the Self with the body, we will be subjected to
defects. The body will be attracted to certain things that are
considered desirable and averse to other things that are considered
undesirable. Again, things are classified as desirable and undesirable
because of delusion. We strive to achieve desirable things and avoid
the undesirable things.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@DesiDude666 This "striving" is the pravR^itti mArga or
karma-mArga. Because of karma and depending on whether we performed
good or bad karmas, we have to take birth again in different forms.
And birth implies suffering. We perform more karmas in that birth
leading to yet another birth, and so on. The cycle continues.
purnapragya 1 year ago
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DesiDude666 1 year ago
Copying and pasting won't work with me - show what you are. Tell me what you can do. Is this all you have?
In a couple of exchanges and you reach the very limit of your mind? Learn dude, don't teach. It's not wrong to learn a thing or two - I bet if you tried hard enough, in 10 years or so even I could learn a thing or two from you. However - at this moment of time, this stage of your life, you are in no position to teach, let alone contemplate. Don't deceive others into this.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Oh idiot mleecha or yavana wat may be,R u delivering lecture for urself?Good now u understand that ur not worthy of debate so finally go and hide ur face in the dark church or mosq of ur ancestor.Created thing not worthy of debate with "Amritasya Putra".hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.......
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
As I said, copying and pasting doesn't work with me, you revolting animal. Show me the true threshold of what you can think off, how deep can you think and how long can you remain in there...
It's obvious, you are a liar and a shudra who deserves no respect.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
Perception is defined by sense-object contact and is unerring. Perception can be of two types:
Ordinary (Laukika or Sādhārana), of six types, viz., visual-by eyes, olfactory-by nose, auditory-by ears, tactile-by skin, gustatory-by tongue and mental-by mind.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Perception may be defined as sense-driven - observation makes it. If there is one reality, the result from observation is then one - not many because there is one truth.
It's like how you're deceiving people, once it is known - the truth shall just remain one - however you intend to manipulate people, there would just be one deception. No matter how you twist and twist words, you can't change that.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
Pramana forms one part of a tripuţi (trio) concerning Pramā (the correct knowledge of any object arrived at by thorough reasoning, Sanskrit), namely,
1.Pramātā (< pramātŗ), the subject, the knower
2.Pramāņa, the means of obtaining the knowledge
3.Prameya, the object, the knowable
Modern Buddhist schools do not use these three distinct terms particularly, but instead employ the 'three spheres' (Sanskrit: trimandala; Tibetan: 'khor gsum):
1.subject
2.object, and
3.action.[3]
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Praman - or simple example - is observation. In your case, you offer nothing. You go on claiming advaita philosophy when that same philosophy makes erratic claims like your founding philosopher, this Shankararcharya was incarnation of Shiva
Where does your praman disappear in that? Gone with the wind? For all that small talk, you're selling asatya - what are you pasting Buddhism b/s to me for? There is nothing remotely buddhist in this conversation unless you now claim to be one.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Atman, when taught by an inferior person, is not easily
comprehended, because It is diversely regarded by disputants.
But when It is taught by him who has become one with Atman,So mleech not worthy to think about the self.So they said"{1:1} In the beginning God created the heaven and the
earth. {1:2} And the earth was without form, and void; and
darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of
God moved upon the face of the waters."-genesis
continue........
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
What is your evidence for this atman - or even paratman. Show me - tell me how do I confirm... ?
That's the difference between dwijas and shudras - you buy into b/s, we verify them. Philosophy is our inheritance, blasphemy is your product.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
If you think: "I know Brahman well," then surely you know but little of Its
form; you know only Its form as conditioned by man or by the gods. Therefore Brahman,
even now, is worthy of your inquiry.Now the instruction about Brahman with regard to the individual self: The mind, as it were,goes to Brahman. The seeker, by means of the mind, communes with It intimately again
and again. This should be the volition of his mind.
Continue....................................
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Bollocks - just because matter can be minimized in abstract form doesn't mean physical structures don't exist. Your arguments just plain demonstrate an imbecility you find with a 0.10 cent brained fool living off begging in the streets of Calcutta or outside a temple.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
matter can be minimized in abstract form doesn't mean physical structures don't exist.-so matter exist means there exist some thing where ultimate not present,thus ur argument proved that anyone control that matter that mean without god universe may exist and thus by falacy u proved there exist no god.Which totally opposite of vedas teaching and thus u proved ur empty head has no thought.mleecha read the scripture properly.
hahahahahahahahahahahaha........................
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Blah blah blah ... for your information Hinduism entertains nastik traditions you foolish shudra.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Now we familier with the view of mleecha on Hinduism.By the way ur mleecha not know that there exist no religion which called hinduism.
Its Sanatan Dharma not Hinduism.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Nope, it's Hinduism - not Sanatan Dharma. Re-branding won't get you anywhere. Kid really, grow up.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
brahman is not sumpreme.. lord krsna is or maha vishnu
persusjackson108 10 months ago
@DesiDude666
That Brahman is called Tadvana, the Adorable of all; It should be worshipped by the name
of Tadvana. All creatures desire him who worships Brahman thus.Austerities, self−restraint, and sacrificial rites are Its feet, and the Vedas are all Its limbs.Truth is Its abode.He who thus knows this Upanishad shakes off all sins and becomes firmly established in the infinite and the highest Heaven, yea, the highest Heaven.This heaven is the ultimate truth not sin theory of ur ancestor.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
No copying and pasting..!
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
But dont know the relation between god and Sprit,and when spirit is called self?
So another Abrahamic religion said "And they ask you (O Muhammad ) concerning the Rûh (the Spirit); Say: "The Rûh (the Spirit): it is one of the things, the knowledge of which is only with my Lord. And of knowledge, you (mankind) have been given only a little."
-Surah Al-Isra' (The Journey by Night)"
purnapragya 1 year ago
Some people want debate but not know their own word may boomberang for them.
purnapragya 1 year ago
Utter lies, teaching PhDs... right. Children without any kind of education - I pity and probably blame your parents for the education imparted with you.
Shudras like you give us all a bad name.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Also mlechha so that you are a hypocrite mlechha who rejects Sanatan dharma but retains authority for himself.
Ur little idiot useless brain r somuch frustraded that u mixture the vedantic thought with some uncivilised religion of raskel and belive in virgine can deliver child.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
What you need Mr. Professor, is a good English lesson.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....................................................
How a sanatandharmi give ur religion(Christanity) bad name?
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Nope, I still see your insecurity. Behind that facade of 'hahahas'... insecurity lies... Mr. Professor.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
When in a hole, don't dig. As far as your background goes, I contest your assertions and argue that you represent anything but scholastic assessment of literature in philosophy.
You probably are a pretender, a shudra with a loud mouth but an empty brain. But it's not too late, start reading and perhaps in 10 years time, you may catch up and really end up teaching someone...
This is the difference between Dwijas and shudras, there is a reason why someone has to be born twice (brahmin first).
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Also chitpawan clean the shit of christian like Pranab Mukherjee.After cleaning the shit of mlechha they called themselves "Dwi Jas" meaning two time cleaner.hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...................
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Insecure child - do you think I don't see the insecurity behind you posts. As I said, I don't need your approval to be a dwija - unlike you , I am not pretending.
Seems that you have reached the very limits of your ability to discuss with sensibility. Not surprising though, shudras are like that - now I hope you understand why I wrote you off in the first place - I saw through your abilities.
Words can tell you more about a person than you can ever know.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Insecure child - do you think I don't see the insecurity behind you posts. As I said, I don't need your approval to be a Vediantist - unlike you , I am not pretending.Seems that you have reached the very limits of your ability to discuss with sensibility. Not surprising though, mlechha are like that - now I hope you understand why I wrote you off in the first place - I saw through your abilities.
Words can tell you more about a person than you can ever know.
purnapragya 1 year ago
Some people think wat he say one must follow without verification,but they forget their own conclusion on observation.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..........
"without verification no debate exist----As u say u love debate so u must need authentication to destroy my falacy.But after some comment with u,I know ur big Zero,in Sanatan Scripture.U need Griffith,a non indian christian,hahahahahahahaha.......................
Also u thing a object created twice without destruction?hahahahahaha....
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Right, you write this in English - you try and lie to me in English - do you expect me to trust that you can tell a mandala apart from another? Foolish child, grow up already. If you truly 'teach' in scholarly 'circles' Griffith might have been your best english translation standard.
Griffith's pretty close to the real thing. In all honesty, I don't have to destroy anything, you seem to be doing a pretty good job at destroying yourself very well 'professor'.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Griffith was zero in Sanskrit language as u so u not know the meaning of Sama and follow the translation of some mlechha.As a mlechha child u dont understand the internal meaning of the hymns of vedas.First purify urself mlechha,then come to us.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.................................
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Right, now you are reviving older terms like mleccha. Who are you to even use these terms?
Don't you reject varna - if so, how can you be in the position to call someone that, you foolish child. By now, it's clear that you have a $2 brain, you have no idea about what they teach 'to PhD students'... since they use Griffith as a authority in major Indology departments around the world - and that you are a hypocrite shudra who rejects varna but retains authority for himself.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666 U idiot griffiith translation like some hindu fanatic translet Bible.Idiot its full of error and all Indian university and Sanskrite toll reject it as the work of funatic chadu.Also ur brain has no value.I some time suprise is it really exist or empty from birth.I said Griffith not know Sanskrite properly,his education of sanskrite like some nursery stuident describing the theory of boolean.Also mlechha not compare with varna.Its indicate the people outside vedic religion.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Your use of terms such as 'idiot' are hysterical.
It's obvious you have no idea what Indology is all about. I think it's high time you graduated with a real degree. Conversations with you are a joke.
Seems you have reached your limits... education, perhaps in 10 years and you may be fit for discussion. Currently, you're a wimp, not even worth the breath I breath, will all due respect. I will cease this with you now, have a nice day - be happy, you have the final say kid.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
For those reading this and wish to learn more, Griffith was an impartial translator accepted by both Western and the Eastern scholars. He derives his interpretations from Sayana, a young Brahmin Prime Minister in a kingdom of India who provided the most impartial critique of the Rg Ved that has been recorded.
Rg Ved is a remarkable document, composed of mandalas, written in different time settings. Famous rishis such as Vashisht and Visvamitra are credited.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Its not Sayana its Madhava ,the prime minister of vijaynagaram.Read history properly psycho missionary.Sayan was the younger brother of Madhava.There is another rishi u forget Rishi euloush(his father was brahmin but mother was lower cast not brahmin.Also Rig veda compose more than 8000 yrs ago,when Saraswati river not dried up.Also some sayan vasya has some critical fault.for example "mayukh" He translet "mountain".but in Panini its called "the ray of sun".
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
No, it's Sayana - please don't impose this wikipedia b/s on me. But the positive thing is that 'Mr. Professor' has started reading because of me. This is the influence of a Dwija child. When we're around, we should encourage knowledge.
Sayana is held up amongst scholarly circles because of his impartial assessment. He is probably an atheist, though that's disputed, so his views are noted for observation rather than interpretation.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Its not Sayana its Madhava ,the prime minister of vijaynagaram.Read history properly psycho missionary.Sayan was the younger brother of Madhava.After resignation as PM ,madhava become Sankaracarya of Kamakoti pittham.Also Sayana got inspiration from his elder brother Madhava,known as Madhavacharya,the writer of Collection of Indian philosophy.Later Bhamati bachaspati Misra right the vasya of brahmasutra following Sankara vasya.Also u not answer my questions.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
As I said, I don't believe in Shankaracharya and his philosophy. On Sayana - so good that you're picking up information from wikipedia - so what? What are you trying to do here, prove to me that you are well-read? What is your question anyway?
I hope you know that you've lost all credibility in this discourse with your inability to communicate, demonstrate competency of any kind and even write properly.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
Simple enough, don't add to our material with your contemplations. Good that it inspires you, all the best. But don't misrepresent what is essentially our heritage. Today, when I hear concepts of buddhist 'origins' - how maya or dharma or asceticism or meditation are buddhist concepts in the west - it fuels anger.
Because these aren't buddhist concepts, they are dharmic concepts. Our knowledge and literature are stolen by new-age wannabes such as yourself. You guys are simply not qualified.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Without argument u used idiotic comment.If u not correct u used abusive language like idiot brahmin done.As u say ur very qualified in rigveda pls mention some hymns on ur comment.Ur argument proved ur just raskel.Know first I teaches vedas in very reputed university.(due to personal identity,i not say the name of university).Now I m guide of many Ph.D student of vedas.so never try to hide ur knowledge to use such primitive talk of cheap purahit.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
Wow... PhD students... so what you're a teacher... and I am supposed to be stumped?
You teach...? I am a dwija you foolish person. By concept of varna - I inherit all of this. You are using the work of my ancestors 'Dr.' Your mastery over language and even vedas has left some stark questions. You're like a person walking naked thinking he has his clothes on.
Foolish child, lay off things you don't comprehend.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Never copy Lyev Nikolayevich Tolstoy,Know ur the well wisher of missionary and delibaretly spoke lie,but failed,U r not dwija,u not even know the meaning of dwija,Also from "nirghantu sabdakusha",Sama come from the word "Somano".the mantra of rigveda "Somano mantra samiti somanini,somano hi tatha susahasati....."
So Sama donot mean ""Sam" = citations in a rhythm and "Ved" = knowledge.".U suck Sanskrite.Idiot know first maxmullar never able to realise the meaning of hymns.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
@purnapragya
Tolstoy... wow. You seem to know history like the back of your hand, like you seem to know the Yajurved. Dwija = twice born. As I said, I don't need your approval to know what I am. It is frauds like you who seek approval, not the likes of us Dwijas.
And you foolish child, do you think dwijas rely on Max muller? It's clear that you are a liar - Rg Ved's authoritative translation in scholastic circles was by Griffith *not* Muller. Foolish child. Learn don't boast.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
If u have problem with buddhist u may debate with them and its known to all when buddhist debate with Sanatan dharmi they lost,from kumaril bhatta to Sancaracarya,they lost.
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
I don't see any difference between you and the Buddhists - quite honestly speaking. Though I have to admit - I see buddhists as the core issues for conceptual plagiarism. At least the Christians acknowledge the old testament, the Buddhists have plagiarized at free will - stealing even Sanskrit itself to give themselves some authenticity.
No dwija can ever just take this blatant asatya (as you have attempted with varna) and stealing of knowledge (buddhists) lightly.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
first came bhudda who was an incarnation of maha vishnu to preach non violence which was the most important. then came sankracharya, who taught the acceptance of the vedas again, then came chaitanya mahaprabhu who founded the sankirtana movement.
persusjackson108 10 months ago
Remember complex life assumes gunas (natural traits) - and if you state that nirgun (formless traitless) *origins* exist for gunas, I might agree but if you suggest that nirguna properties diminish gunas - I would say that you lie.
Because observation cannot be discounted - and that you just don't know if matter or quantum particles at that level do not have an traits. Perhaps even a quantum particle has a trait since all existence has a standard and constant trait as guna.
Learn from science.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
There is a number called kissing number and ur just follow the rule of that.U never said a valid argument just lost the way who is shudra or who is brahmin?An useless idiotness.We know a brahmin swip the lactrin by ur def.He is more knowledgeble than professor.First measure ur brain then come to me.Although ur "untouchable shudra" in our knowledge.Who not know the simple logical statement and find equation like the student of undergraduate class.First learn it then debate.idiot.
Narasamsha 1 year ago
@Narasamsha
Sure, some brahmins are scum of the Earth. Though, historically, Shudras became shudras because they were primarily dog-eaters and would eat human carcasses. Funny how these dalit groups do not mention this. But regardless, there isn't any biological difference between a shudra and a brahmin. I don't agree that a brahmin is better than a shudra, a dwija is.
Don't pretend to have an equation. You know that you are a liar and a cheat. It looks like you're the idiot around here, eh?
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Yes observation can be discounted,its called countabily infinite.so ur logic just void .Also quantum is an object of physics and by no means physics exist without math and by no means math exist without logic.For this first know the region,then find its Analytic or non Analytic.
Narasamsha 1 year ago
@Narasamsha
Wow, can you name just one thing that may be observed and is known to be infinite. Just one thing... this is exactly what I am saying. You are simply not qualified to inherit what has first been the work of my forefathers. Sure, not all are qualified, but some of us are.
And it is greatly disturbing that foolish people such as yourself now represent our work which was never even authorized in the first place. It's the likes of you that gave birth to Buddhism/Jainism.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
U not answer my question and proceeding further in rig veda and comment a statement without giving the hymns.First ur error look like Some idiot mollaha.In yajur veda clearly stated "All this is for habitation by the Lord, whatsoever is individual universe of movement in the universal motion. By that renounced
thou shouldst enjoy; lust not after any man's possession."
Narasamsha 1 year ago
@Narasamsha
I am sorry, I don't see you in any way qualified to quote any veda. To confirm your fallacy, I would clearly state the concept of 'lord' is basically what exists. Because, as far as the truth goes, vedas purport pantheism - not monotheism that you advaitis purport.
If you don't know, you don't know. Pretending to know simply gives you away as an idiot yourself. No offense of course, but really, you look like a complete fool doing so - vedas are brahmin literature. Don't use them.
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
Calculating attribute u find ur answer.Also from yajur veda "Into a blind darkness they enter who follow after the Ignorance,
they as if into a greater darkness who devote themselves to the
Knowledge alone."
So u the follower of darkness cursing me oh kids just know urself then deliver lecture to "purnaPrajanam darshan"
Narasamsha 1 year ago
@Narasamsha
There is no math in the Yajur veda. And besides, I seek specialization of the Rg Ved/Samved. Our lineage only specialize in two veds, considering the two are very very similar, I do not specialize in the Yajurved.
Besides, do not quote any of the vedas if you cannot accord respect to the lineage or the identity of the authors. I am sure you have plenty of shudra saints and pseudo scholars to quote. Don't use our information to misrepresent our forefathers, a simple enough position
DesiDude666 1 year ago
@DesiDude666
One hand u said "I do not specialize in the Yajurved" and other hand u said "There is no math in the Yajur veda." U not contradict ur position?And contradiction arise confusion as ur comment.Have u any proved that vedas written by ancestor of todays brahmin?Ans. no.First know vedas not represent castism its the puranic era when castism originated.Do u know wat is the meaning of Sam?
purnapragya 1 year ago
@purnapragya
You are the professor here... don't make me laugh. Don't assume things... though I don't find the need to stump people, I'll let you sit the high horse for now. You can find the entire collection of the vedas on sacred texts - if you didn't know that.
Don't lie - you don't know diddly squat about the Yajur veda - and you have obviously not read the Smritis.
I really have nothing to say to you, apart from that you're a lying shudra. Who knows *nothing*.