That could make a style of Karate called Elvis Ryu. It would be compulsory for everyone to have a big black quiff and to wear the Elvis suit instead of the Gi. Instead of Ki-ai they could shout "uh huh"
@cuthachXaingeal I can't say for certain but I'm willing to guess that there's more footage of ELVIS demonstrating his abilities in the martial arts locked away in a vault somewhere.
@cuthachXaingeal Ok, here's a fact. ELVIS brought attention to the martial artists that very few have been able to do outside of the martial arts community (examples: Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, Jackie Chan). Even you have to admit that counts for something.
@cuthachXaingeal Rhee was given 50000 and a cadillac that Elvis did own for while - now I ask you - if you were a teacher given that money by a famous person who wanted to go into business with you - after all Elvis did help set up Rhee would you think that your organisation might be not obliged to show their gratitude by say making an award to their benefactor - what could they give? I think they'd give an honourary rank - which would have no real meaning but would be a nice gesture of thanks.
@cuthachXaingeal Listen I know this - it takes 4-5 years just to make Black belt in TKD Rhee's style - heck any Martial art style at least 5 years. Elvis met Rhee in 1970 recommended to Elvis by his former Instructor Ed Parker - he only trained with Rhee for 4 years - he was awarded an honorary 7th by Rhee in '73 because - and this is in Rhee's own words - because Elvis asked for a 7th Dan because the No.7 was spiritual to him - Rhee says that too - you can't be a real 7th dan in just 3 years
@cuthachXaingeal The attitude that it's not my job to teach you anything is arrogant and goes against the teachings of martial arts. You can learn something from everybody.
@cuthachXaingeal I follow you alright? What you're saying is, because of who ELVIS was there's no way he could earn anything honestly. You're saying he was a liar, a cheat and a scam. That's exactly what I'm talking about. He may not have been the greatest martial artist in history but who is. Anybody can be beaten on any given day no matter how great their credentials are.
@cuthachXaingeal I'm not out of control? I'm trying to teach you to respect others. You attitude did get you in trouble. Yours attitude attracted my attention and it will attract others that might not think twice about doing you harm. What's this son stuff? I haven't been called son in years.
@cuthachXaingeal I wouldn't discuss with this guy any further - yesterday he did the old fall on his own sword routine - after informing me Rhee met Elvis in 1960, i checked Mr' Rhee himself - He was introduced to Elvis in '70 by a FORMER instructor Mr Parker - he then trained only 'til '74 being awarded his 'Honourary' (toilet paper) 7th in '73 - so our friend here - the big Elvis fan - couldn't even get his fanboy facts right -tut -tut elvisworldwide, the King would not be amused....
@cuthachXaingeal - Excellent. Please continue. How does your astute and well-reasoned response apply to Elvis Presley's achievement and ranking in Kenpo-style Karate?
@cuthachXaingeal - Okay, the Narc Badge argument is a good one. I should only point out that getting that badge was a spur-of-the-moment thing involving a one-time meeting with President Nixon, and the Karate rank took place over years of discipline and commitment. And remember: Elvis gave everybody money and cars, even perfect strangers. This subject would make a good documentary.
@cuthachXaingeal - Thank you. Exactly. So - point is - one Kenpo 5th degree looks different from another, depending on the individual. Yes. You better believe it.
@cuthachXaingeal ELVIS isn't here to hear your jokes but if he was he would be very hurt by them. Don't you have any compassion? I thought martial arts training included compassion for others.
@cuthachXaingeal You're the ones acting like children. You obviously missed out on the self-discipline part of your training because you continue to run people into the ground when they're no longer here to defend themselves. You did threaten me. You said I was going to end up dead. That's a threat. You worded it so it wouldn't come off as a direct threat but you threatened me nevertheless. I don't want enemies, I just want you guys to stop and think before you say stuff that hurts others.
@cuthachXaingeal And you need to use your self-discipline to refrain from talking shit about other people. Act like you have respect for others even if you don't like them.
@cuthachXaingeal - The only absolute certainty in all of this is - IF - Elvis bought his ranks with money and cars - than his GM, Kang Rhee, a man whom Elvis trained with knew since 1960, sold out in 1974. Let me ask you this: Is it possible for a Bruce Lee black belt and a Chuck Norris black belt to be two entirely different martial artists? Rhetorical question.
@donn409 Hey, Don! Look up 'Daigonkan Kenpo' online & check out our dojo! Today is gradings with the Black Belts...we have work to do, but we'd love if you'd join us! Sorry I missed you raging for a whole page & a half yesterday! Would have liked to have been there for that, but I actually WORK for a living, so I couldn't play with you. Glad you and omurchu12 had fun...he's the real deal. He'll be at the gradings with the other Black Belts if you want to come watch. Door's always open for you!
@bikizuzu I'll tell you what, cunt face. Since you think you're so fucking bad I'll give you my address and you can come get me. Oh, and your friend is nothing but a talker. He's all bluff and no stuff just like you.
@cuthachXaingeal Me go to prison? That's a laugh! You're the one more than likely to go to prison. I'm sure you'd become somebody's bitch as well while you're there. You ran your mouth first and claimed to have discipline. If you're so disciplined you would've learned to keep your comments about others to yourself. If you criticize others you in turn will be criticized.
@cuthachXaingeal You're the one that threatened my life dickwad, I just said I'd defend myself. You have no discipline. If you did you wouldn't be criticizing someone else when you should be looking at your own shortcomings. You can shove your anger up your candy ass!
@cuthachXaingeal - Finally, a respectable, well-reasoned, and honest comment from someone. The other hatemongers will always be students only because their arrogant minds supercede all else.
@elvisworldwide still talking shite - eh mate? so if a guy/girl gets a job above you in work with 'awarded' degrees and you see that, and you see you are better at the work than him/her - you'd be happy to accept that? After you earned your degree and position? But maybe because they show 'good spirit' they should do better than you? Got there, not on merit but because their folks knew someone or they paid someone. Or would you prefer they were better than you and did earn their degrees?
@bikizuzu You weren't the only ones laughing. I couldn't believe how ignorant you guys are. You think you're all so disciplined and you're on here arguing with someone you think is undisciplined. How childish is that?
@donn409 We were hoping for a reasonable, well-argued, INTELLIGENT, FACT-BASED discussion on the actual merits & authenticity of Elvis' skills & ranks. We were WAITING for you to make a GOOD POINT, not rage, threaten & call names! You made kind of a fool of yourself & it was funny holding you by the forehead & watching you flailing away trying to hit something. Admit, we all had good points. The debate on Elvis will go on, with or without you. Come prepared next time. We await you, LOL! ;)
@bikizuzu You people aren't interested in debate, intelligent or otherwise. You're only interested in running people down for kicks. You say you're so disciplined. Don't make me laugh. Disciplined people treat others with repect. Even when they don't like someone or disagree they hold their tongues and act like they have some sense. I'm showing you the same disrespect that you're showing ELVIS and you don't like it.
@donn409 By this token, then, you yourself admit to being a hypocrite. You don't like ME, you don't agree with ME, but yet you've called me all sorts of names and threatened me with bodily harm...you've not kept your OWN tongue, as you suggest doing, nor had any sense. So by that token, you admit to having no discipline yourself. I never once called Elvis a crude name, nor said if he were alive, I could or would do HIM bodily harm. Your argument is flawed. Try again.
@bikizuzu I was just trying to show you people that others have feelings. Listen, I apologize for anything that I said that hurt you. I don't have to try again. I think I've made my point.
@donn409 Apology accepted. I'll stand behind my opinion that IN MY EYES as a Martial Artist of 40 years, Elvis isn't showing 7th/8th-Dan skills here. I want to know WHY he was awarded a rank that he's not showing skills for. As a Martial Artist, I have questions. I'm entitled to them. If you have experience as a Martial Artist then I'll respect that. NOT name-calling. If you believe Elvis was good at karate I'll respect that too, but you should be prepared to back up your argument as to WHY.
@bikizuzu I'll say something I believe we both agree on. ELVIS brought huge attention to the martial arts that few outside of the martial arts community has.
@donn409 The initial point that was made, was that IN THESE CLIPS, Elvis' form by 8TH DEGREE KENPO STANDARDS, is very poor. The initial debate was whether or not Elvis earned (as in TESTED FOR) any other degrees besides the first-degree black he received. He did study a long time. It doesn't necessarily mean that he ever TESTED again. You can find pictures of his certificates for his 7th and 8th-Dan ranks CLEARLY MARKED 'HONORARY.' This is a FACT; you don't have to like it, but it's FACT.
@bikizuzu Both of us obviously see something different in these clips. You see someone who doesn't know what he's doing while I see the exact opposite. Each of us have our own "facts" and beliefs. I'll respect yours if you'll respect mine.
@cuthachXaingeal My point is this. KISS MY ENTIRE ASS YOU JANKY ASS BAD LUCK MUTHA FUCKA! I'll be back tomorrow to continue this. I'm hungry and unlike you I have a life outside the world wide wide. See ya later aligator.
@donn409 I was laughing so hard I couldn't type! Did you just say you'd pick up your GIRLFRIEND and bash cuthach's head in?? OMG, LOLWUT?? Does your girlfriend know your going to use her as a weapon? Is she ok with this? Sorry, mate, but that made me teehee. You're really funny. I'd almost be willing to buy you a pint if you weren't so truly ignorant. LOL! Poor Janice! ;D
@bikizuzu Janice is my fucking baseball bat, you asshole! Yes, if your friend attempted to assault and batter me I would crack his fucking head like a walnut and I'd do the same to you if you tried anything.
@cuthachXaingeal You're the one raging. You can't stand the fact that ELVIS did more to promote the martial arts in his short life than you could in 100 years.
@donn409 that's so weird - because when I pick up any Martial Arts publication, especially ones from the US like Black Belt and Inside Kung Fu - they NEVER mention Elvis - they do mention Bruce Lee - do you think(Christ talk about irony...)that's because in the eyes of Martial Artists Bruce did make a contribution and Elvis didn't - say anyone see an Elvis magazine out there lately? Gee no. Wonder why?
@omurchu12 I don't know what planet you're living on but I've seen ELVIS appear in martial arts articles. I like Bruce, so I would never say a bad thing about him. You, I have plenty to speak about. I never see you in any magazines.
@donn409 name them - I have read Inside Kung fu for years and BlackBelt also - I have read from the UK - Combat and Martial Arts Ilustrated and from Australia Blitz magazine - from the philippines another - here in Ireland Irish Fighter - and oh yes I was in one, the first ever issue of Irish Warrior - as a green belt over 20 years ago I attended a Black Belt grading - never ever have I seen an article on Elvis - tons on Bruce though - what country do you live in?
@donn409 I ain't a glory hound - and it was an article - not the cover - which issues did you or fatdeadboy appear in? oh that's right none - not even in the States LOL
@cuthachXaingeal If you were standing in front of me you wouldn't touch a hair on my head and you know it. And you know why? Because I would pick up my girlfriend, Janice and bash your fucking head in proper. I've only had to fight on handful of occasions and that's enough to let people know that I'm not to be triffled with.
@omurchu12 I have a better idea. How about if I take Janice and knock your ass the fuck out? Then you'll be a complete mess. Mike Stone would've been dead cause ELVIS would blew his fucking brains out.
@donn409 Janice LOL - do you realise how stupid you sound - and hey - I'm also like Filipino Bolos - that's a machette - I 'd cut you into kebab meat you dope - get a gun - I'm ex-army I'd shoot you from 500 yards away - and Elvis sucked it up like a bitch - 'cos he's dead and Mike Stone is still walking tall, I told you - I'd break your arms if you bought that piece of shit with you - and then I'll shove it up your ass - you might enjoy that - you seem to like having Elvis's up there.
@donn409 so that'll be 2 dead rednecks then - I'll see if they'll scatter your ashes in Graceland and hey Bitch you mentioned the articles - you prove it! I read last months Black Belt and Inside Kung Fu - lots of Bruce no fat wannabe king of rock and roll Karate masters - wonder why? oh yes - he was shit....
@omurchu12 You'll kill me? Yea, you and what army because I would lay your ass to waste. Get your own proof. I'm getting something to fucking eat. Oh, and you're a piece of shit.
@omurchu12 I love the Irish. I'm a fan of JFK, Ronaldus Reagan, and Mayor Joe Smith (know him?). You're GD right the Irish built America, along with the Anglos (sic), the Italians and the Jews, the Africans, etc. ad infinitum. Finally we agree on something, Murph. For the record, Elvis was mostly German, with a touch Scotch-Irish, Italian and even Cherokee Indian. Oh, and he was a credited Black Belt in MA's.
@elvisworldwide Go suck yourself there mate - or as we say Pog Mo Thoin - that's a real language - like the belts around my waist, unlike poor Elvis, I feel sorry for the guy - bad as he was, with guys like you bigging him up, making his abilities seem more than they were, he never had a chance- At best he's remembered as a standard for how you DON'T want to be - at least he's dead and can't do any more harm. Reagan, Clinton, Obama, Elvis - not bad for Ireland the list goes on, Eire go brea!
@elvisworldwide well, well, well look who crawled out from under his rock into the light of day! Missed you pal! Anymore 'true' Elvis facts for me? Bit of 10 year cock up there yesterday huh? The Elvis fan that didn't even know Elvis facts, Stick around son - this peasant will unearth more truth for you - lay off the drugs though - they appear to be making you bipolar - as you recall they didn't work out so good for Elvis either - wouldn't want you to end up in a Brett Easton Ellis book now!
These grades goes from 1st Dan (Shodan) to 8th Dan (Hachidan). These are the adult grades and will take a lifetime to progress though. The minimum time anyone can take to go from Shodan to Hachidan is 36 years. However this would require not failing a single grade! For perspective, the pass rate for hachidan exams is commonly less than 0.1% More good news for you! Elvis studied 19 years right? oh that's a shortfall of.... oh 17 years....
@Electronitron I sincerely doubt it, He never was - and was given his belts - he never even fought - check out his old instructor Bill Wallace who in this month's Martial Arts Illustrated he says Elvis never sparred- a 7th that never sparred? Pull the other one - He was given his belts. Bought and paid for, he never earned them.You shouldn't talk when you don't know what you're on about pal.
@elvisworldwide I did mention I was from Dublin right? That's a city - not a farm - you do know the difference right? Oh hang on ....tut tut sure you didn't even know the difference between 1960 and 1970 - that's 10 years - in case you forgot - they did educate you in that country of yours? While you check that - check the difference between Honorary and Conferred - then we'll get you started on ethics.
@elvisworldwide Look mate - go to Rhee's page and look at his Achievements posted by the man himself - He was only recognised as a 7th dan by his own country in 1975 - so he promoted Elvis - his student to a HIGHER rank than himself in '73? and again in '74 when he made him an 8th while Rhee wasn't a 7th until 1975? - Time travelling again? Also I did find a record of Elvis getting a Blue belt from the Tennesse Karate Institute in 1974 signed by Parker - that I believe! Blue is lower than Black
@omurchu12 Hold it there one fucking minute! I assumed you were from Northern Ireland which is British territory. No insult intended, but why did you guys let the British Empire take over Northern Ireland? Another thing, I'm not Canadian. I'm a mix of Blackfoot, Cherokee, English, German, Dutch and Jewish. You may have gave the U.S. J.F.K. but you most definitely didn't give us ELVIS. ELVIS' people were Scotish, Cherokee and Jewish. I'm many things but ignorant isn't one of them.
@donn409 First off - when the 1916 uprising happened - we were getting our country back - but in order for the brits to save face they wouldn't give up the counties where there was a Protestant majority - That was then - since then Irish catholics are on the verge of being in the majority and in a vote would probably ask to join the Republic hence the Anglo-Irish Agreement - now both Ireland and the UK oversee the running of N.Ireland that has a parliament for both sides .
@donn409 further to that - I'd be real careful saying Brit to someone from N/Ireland as they may not be - they would call themselves Irish too - heck even some of the Protestants would call themselves Irish - they have intermarried - I know loads - U2 Bono Irish protestant - Adam - English protestant - the Edge Welsh whatever larry - Irish Catholic so you see my point in calling you Canadian, just because you live in North America? By the way Google Elvis - Irish blood to be sure, to be sure.
@omurchu12 Maybe, we're both right. I've heard the Germans say ELVIS was one of theirs and I've heard the same from some Mexicans because some of ELVIS' mother's people were from Texas.
@donn409 Ah I was only pulling your leg there mate, like I was when I said I lived in a castle - regardless of where his people came from he was an American first and foremost - It was interesting news to me his racial background.
@omurchu12 I didn't know about ELVIS' Native American and Jewish ancestary until I was in my late teens. If it would've got out in the 1950s that he had Native American and Jewish bloodlines the media would've used it in another attempt to destroy him. They never let up on him even after he died. And Michael Jackson's fans think he got a bad rap.
@donn409 Well - that's a problem - no offense that may have been on your side of the pond - I can't say I ever heard stuff like that about Elvis in Ireland or MJ - my point in all this has been about the integrity of what I study myself, what I know and am still learning about, the Martial Arts - In any human endeavour you want the highest prize/rank/standard that you're aiming for to mean it's the best and those that already have them should do because they have the skill and earned them.
@omurchu12 There are people, rich and poor, throughout history, that for one reason or another took shortcuts in some area of their lives. Most do these days. The truth is, ELVIS can still inspire you to be the very best that you can be at whatever you're doing. He didn't have to be the greatest martial artist of all-time to accomplish that.
@donn409 If I'm lucky - I will, all I can do for certain is master what I'm taught, earn my grades and respect of my teachers and fellow students and If I end up doing some instructing, try and pass that on - I wish you the best with your health and your college.
@donn409 Well I'm sorry to hear that - really. I was going to say would you have respect for an honourary degree or the full do four years of studying and exams one. But it doesn't matter - when I got into this I hoped I was wrong because EP had been a hero to me too - the more you guys bugged me the more I dug and today I found a website that was selling EP's Blue belt cert that he earned in '74 signed by Ed Parker - I' m not laughing about this because it was a huge disappointment to me...
@omurchu12 Just because you found out that ELVIS may not have earned a certain rank in martial arts doesn't mean that he was a fake. It just means he was human like the rest of us. He even said it himself, "Jesus is "THE KING", I'm just a entertainer." I respect that he was able to keep his ego in check despite the level of fame that he achieved. Most performers believe their own headlines and think they are gods and goddesses.
@donn409 I would agree with that - he was a student of the Martial Arts - His abilities were far beneath those of a genuine person of that rank, his contributions were genuine and he was rewarded for that with some Honorary Certificates - I'll give you that - but as far as being those ranks no way - no more than me if I was given an honorary degree compared to a real degree you earned - would you like that after you put in four years of hard work and me because I'm rich/famous? That's my POV.
@omurchu12 ELVIS would respect what you've acomplished. As a matter of fact he supported other martial artists that he admired and worked with. Bill "Superfoot" Wallace and Mike Stone are two men that ELVIS honored and respected for their contributions to martial arts.
@donn409 Well I respect him for his contributions to Kenpo and as he was a fellow student but not a master though and I will respect his accomplishments as a singer/entertainer. Nobody can deny that.
@donn409 Word of warning: Be careful when dealing with people who claim to have items owned by ELVIS. The majority for sale are fakes. ELVIS still "THE KING".
@donn409 That was golf mate - try keeping up with things - it was only headlines around the world - and Golf is a Scottish game - Scots people are Celts just like us so we're all family - our native tongues are pretty similar - there's there great thing called Google - try it! So Scots people and Irish are related - that's why you see we get along. My best mate is Scottish and he reckons Scots people are Irish people that just liked colder wetter weather. He is joking by the way....
@donn409 Well thanks - the Picts certainly were - as for the Brits - well they were invited in over 800 years ago ....trouble was nobody knew they'd outstay their welcome! But the Irish weren't the only ones in that boat - ask India - Africa even you guys had to give them their marching orders...lol
@donn409 Man that was bad - I can in some small way relate,we nearly lost our language/culture and were harshly ruled for over 800 years. But they didn't defeat you guys no more than they did us and that's all that matters - so heads up - look them in the eye - and remember they put their pants one leg at a time like the rest of us. You beat them by earning it - They can never deny ability, that's how I do it mate. You'll do fine.
@cuthachXaingeal You aren't as tough as you think you are, mate. You may have outlived ELVIS but he's more alive than your limp dicked ass ever will be. Your threats to kick my ass are just that, threats.
@cuthachXaingeal Do you actually think that your "proper form" works 100% in every situation? You can do everything right and still get your ass kicked which is what would happen if you ever tried to follow through with your threat on my person. People have freedom of speech and no one, not even you with your "proper form", have any right putting their hands on anybody. You go learn discipline! You obviously didn't learn it from your master.
@cuthachXaingeal Why don't you take a hike dumb ass. If you had any real knowledge and respect for the martial arts you'd know that your worst enemy is a streetfigher.
@donn409 Of course I never did everything perfectly, nor did I expect my students to. But when you're claiming to be an 8th-Dan Black Belt, your movements and form should reflect that; my point is that Elvis' form does not reflect that. It's just that simple, and you've actually strengthened my point. Elvis did earn at least his 1st-Dan belt, but he couldn't have reached 8th even by the time he died; it can't be done, which you'd understand if you studied.
@bikizuzu How do you know someone can't reach 8th degree in the time ELVIS did? People progress in their own time. Maybe, ELVIS knew subconsciously that his life would be cut short and put extra effort into his training.
@cuthachXaingeal A real martial artist would never attempt to kick a gun out of someone's hand you idiot. That shows how much you know. You do the fucking math!
@cuthachXaingeal Fuck you! You have no authority to tell me to shut up so I suggest you let me speak my peace. The fool is you, fool, so don't try that Kwai Chang Caine philosophy on me. You say ELVIS sucked, I say he knew what he was doing. Next you'll be saying he lipsynched.
@donn409 LOL! What 'business' do I have having dual citizenship? It's not a matter of business, it's a matter of circumstance; one that was made for me before I was old enough to have a say in the matter. Thank you for paying your taxes so America could blow stuff up; happy? Of course Elvis has my respect for being in the military; never said he didn't. This isn't about world affairs, either. Stop clouding the issue. This is about Elvis' skill and whether or not he actually EARNED his high rank.
@cuthachXaingeal I'll tell you what. We can just agree to disagree. You say ELVIS sucks. I say he displayed real technique. You say he messed up trying to disarm an opponent. I say, if he was that inept he would've tried to kick the gun out of his opponent's hand rather than use the technique he used.
@donn409 You have NO respect, or you wouldn't have offered to hand me my ass today. My opinion is still THIS: It's not a matter of Elvis doing anything the SAME as other Kenpo practitioners or not, it's a matter of him doing them CORRECTLY, which he is NOT. It is also misleading to claim a LEGITIMATE, EARNED rank for something he did not actually TEST for. I hope anyone who DID train with Elvis only did it one time, and then found a teacher who knew PROPER form. You're still missing the point.
@bikizuzu You started this, not I. And it's you that's missing the point. If you can't say something nice about somebody don't say anything at all. I guess you've done everything in your whole life perfectly? You sound like a elementary school teacher telling a student that they're doing the math problem wrong even when they come up with the right answer.
@donn409 Your response makes no sense. Why are you blathering on at ME about a comment I didn't make about "THE KING"? You want the OTHER Irishman, you dolt! At least direct your comments to the right people!
@donn409 Just for the record, I have dual citizenship. I spent half my life in America, so don't give me the old "American superiority" shite. It never occur to you that I might have been a soldier? And my brother was a Navy Seal. Any true MA practitioner knows that the arts are universal; it doesn't matter where in the world you live, as long as your spirit is true to your art. I spent my whole life doing MA's because they were IMPORTANT to me. So I ask again, what have YOU done to contribute?
@bikizuzu What business do you have having dual citizenship? You're either an American or a European. You can't serve two masters. Don't try to turn this around. It's you Europeans that think you're so much damn better than Americans. It makes me sick to think my country has starving people and they're sending money and aid overseas. Our leaders are selling us up the river without a paddle to help your people. The U.S. should've remained neutral in world affairs and taken care of their own.
@bikizuzu Has it ever occurred to you that ELVIS deserves respect for serving in the U.S. military regardless of what you think about his martial arts skills? I paid the taxes so you could blow people up. That's what I contributed.
@donn409 I actually never once called you a lowlife OR said you sleep with your sister. Didn't say I'm rich or refined, either. I'm just someone who's done Martial Arts of one kind or another their whole life, and I KNOW what I'm talking about, especially when I say Elvis didn't legitimately EARN a high-ranking degree in Kenpo. His lack of ability speaks for itself on the video. You've reduced this whole thing to a name-calling pissing contest. You've no respect for MA practitioners anywhere.
@bikizuzu On the contrary, I have the utmost respect for people in the martial arts. My problem is this. None of us have trained with ELVIS. Therefore, we should all keep our opinions to ourselves about what his skills or expertise is. Some of you can get on here and say he's not doing it right or whatever but the truth is, no two people do anything the same.
@bikizuzu ELVIS never said he was the greatest at anything. As a matter of fact when he heard people call him "THE KING" he always responded, "Jesus Christ is "THE KING". I'm just an entertainer." I've never heard another person say anything remotely like that, including martial artists.
@donn409 Deep breaths, son. You're ranting. Listen to what you just wrote to me; nobody's going to be able to take you seriously now, even if you'd had a point to make at the start of all this. But now I'm amused, and you have my attention...how are you planning on handing me my ass, exactly? Going to swim across the pond and challenge me to battle, are you? If it's a battle of wits, you're already under-equipped. It's Sunday; go read Black Belt Magazine and spend some time with your sister. ;)
@bikizuzu You can take your deep breaths and shove them up your candy ass! You say you're amused? I'm amused that people on your side of the ocean still believe you're superior to Americans. Hitler would've annilhiated you blokes if it hadn't been for us.
@bikizuzu Since I'm a lowlife that sleeps with his sister I can't possibly afford to cross the pond to fight you. Since you're so rich and refined why don't you bring your ass over here and show me your superiority? That's right, another excuse. That's what I thought. You're nothing but a dimwitted hob-knocker.
@elvis Actually just wanted to thank you for putting up the video, but mostly for the words describing Elvis as the "greatest entertainer the world has ever known." I'm pretty much is agreement with you: He was one of a kind, copied but never duplicated. This video is certainly great entertainment, and has spurred plenty of debate. It would have been amazing to see what Elvis had done with the rest of his days if he'd lived. Respect. :)
@donn409 Spelling and sentence structure, really?? Pfftt, LOL! Your response is juvenile, humourous, and deserves no response in itself. Elvis will always be remembered as the King of Rock & Roll, never any argument there! I'LL be remembered for the black belts that I helped train, that have gone on to their own successes and successful students. That is MY legacy, and I've been at it a long time. What did YOU do today? :)
@bikizuzu You can say what you want. I'm not the one with spelling problems and putting together sentences. That makes me question the knowledge of anything you claim to have. Nobody gives a god damn what you think. You wont be remembered for shit, fucktard. What did I do today? I came back on here to say, fuck you. You have no legacy. I take that back. You do have a legacy. It's called getting your ass handed to you by yours truly.
@donn409 Like I said, you're a troll and a mindless follower. You're 40 and you leave a resoonse like a 14-year-old?!? Um, ok, you just ruined any credibility you might have had (which really was none anyways). LOOK IT UP: In the videos, online, where-ever; you can see the certificate itself that SAYS "Honourary". I don't need to make stuff up to discredit Elvis, his MOVES are doing it for him! Did you go look at some REAL Kenpo videos yet, btw? Don't be a sheep; think for yourself on this one.
@bikizuzu Don't tell me I act like a 14 year old when you can't even spell or put together a half-way decent sentence. It's you that lacks credibility my ignorant friend. One things for sure ELVIS will still be remembered years from now while your pathetic ass is decomposing in the ground and forgotten. Give it up because you're not convincing anyone to see things your way.
@donn409 I notice you don't have any Martial Arts experience. Nobody is debating that Elvis was a great singer OR a great man, but he was human. Nobody denies his drug use. He may have loved karate, and he did earn at least a 1st-Dan level of black belt, but it's also a known fact that his 7th/8th degrees were awarded as HONOURARY degrees, not EARNED degrees. Some of us work HARD to earn our degrees; we don't want to BUY them like Elvis did. That's not what the Martial Arts is all about.
@bikizuzu You say ELVIS bought his degrees. Did you ask him? The people you get your information from want to discredit him because of who he was. ELVIS may or may not have been the greatest in the martial arts but then again nobody can make that claim. Anyone can be beaten at any given time and no belt, black, red or green will make a difference.
@donn409 so now you're an immortal - bit mad are'nt you? throwing your toys out of the pram, MAMMY! They don't believe me when I say Elvis was great!! Here baby, suck on your dummy, dummy - go back to sleep now, that's a good fuckwit. Back to fantasy land - where you're always right, God what an idiot,
@omurchu12 Psychology doesn't work on me, so you're just wasting your time, dick wipe. You just can't stand the fact that "THE KING" is more man than you'll ever be. Stop your pathetic whining and bitching. You're such a fucktard.
@donn409 I know Psychology won't work on you - you brain fried moron - because you have no sense of reality, I'll always be more man than a dead guy - and I'm already a year older then he was - when he died - guess I'm more successful than the 'King' huh? By the way - he wrote none of his songs - so what's he 'king' of? Did'nt get his Martial Art grades - did'nt write his songs - great singer - that was it - funny how none of you 'tards post a pic of him before he died - denial anybody?
@omurchu12 You think you're being smart when in fact you're showing how truly ignorant you are. What's wrong, did you catch you're old lady masturbating to ELVIS' pictures? You think you know it all when you know nothing and you are no man. You are a pathetic loser that has no honor or integrity and no one will remember your name when you are dead, dead, dead! Deny that, fucktard!
@donn409 I am smart child - I don't hero worship pathetic fat fuck-ups that had to pay for their grades - HELLO? stuck in '68 are you? Is that what happened to you and your old lady - oh that's right you don't HAVE any - just your Elvis wank sock . I train and I'll be remembered as one that EARNED his grades - and I'm well known enough by REAL people and family - unlike poor Elvis and you. Now calm down and stop throwing your toys of the pram just because reality has crashed into you.
@omurchu12 EWWW! You hurt my feelings. What ever shall I do? I feel like my world just ended. NOT! Listen up, slapnuts! You can talk shit until you're blue in the face and the only people that will listen are your five gay lovers that you fucked up the ass to get your degree.
@donn409 Seriously? THAT'S the best you can do?? Even if I did post a video of me doing these techniques PROPERLY, you wouldn't look at it any more than you're willing to look at videos of any OTHER Martial Artists doing these techniques PROPERLY now. You still aren't listening. You have no experience of your own to back up ANY valid argument, except for your slavish devotion to a dead musician. Elvis was the King of Rock & Roll, NOT Kenpo. His rank was only on paper; now go look it up.
@donn409 You don't really have any good arguments on this subject, do you? You've yet to say anything except call names and trashtalk. You're a sad little troll who likes to make trouble, & unless you show me some CONCRETE EVIDENCE on why this is proper form, I'm not buying a word you say. Go find me a video of either Elvis showing proper form, or bring me one of say, Jeff Speakman, looking this bad. Now run along and do your homework.
@donn409 Stop being a troll and making yourself look foolish. Calling me names does nothing to further your argument as to why we're expected to accept this drivel as GOOD KENPO FORM. You don't really need ME to post a video to see proper Kenpo, but you CAN go look up Jeff Speakman or Ed Parker or TracyKenpo for starters, if you want to see what it's SUPPOSED to look like. This is simply unacceptable form for a supposed 7th Dan karateka. Get over it.
@donn409 Your argument is invalid. I could ask you to do the same. Doing so wouldn't change the fact that what we're actually discussing here is the misrepresentation of Kenpo. If someone else did forms this poorly, they'd be shot down for the failure they were, but because it's Elvis, it's ok?? No, stop making a smokescreen. I respect Elvis for his talent as a MUSIC performer, always will. But I won't respect ANYONE who takes a rank with MONEY.
@omurchu12 You bring up a good point: What person that TRULY respects his art, as Elvis (and everybody in his pocket & up his arse) supposedly did, comes to teach a class to both beginners & Black Belts alike, HIGH OFF HIS FECKIN GOURD?? That's NOT respect to the art or to its true followers!! I'd have thrown any of my students out if they came in like that, or walked out on another instructor for being obviously under the influence. (LOL @ his pants ripping, btw! ;D)
@omurchu12 Would you like to explain to the class WHY Red was so obviously pulling his punches at Elvis' midsection? Or why that gun-disable move would have KILLED anyone actually trying it? Or how there are NO actual RED BELTS in Kenpo? Or WHY Elvis had to be shown how to do that front snap-kick properly; a 7th Dan should have known how to do that as a beginner! Explain the math on why it's not possible to have received that rank in that short of time. Let's do this with irrefutable logic.
@donn409 There's no need for abusive language; you just lower yourself to 'TROLL' status. You seem to be kind of a troublemaker, so I'm not going to waste time on you unless you can have a civilised discussion. I have black belts in two different styles of karate & was a former instructor who saw MANY of my students get their own black belts. I assure you I DO know proper Kenpo form when I see it. If you disagree, explain why respectfully or keep quiet, please.
That could make a style of Karate called Elvis Ryu. It would be compulsory for everyone to have a big black quiff and to wear the Elvis suit instead of the Gi. Instead of Ki-ai they could shout "uh huh"
macrobioticman 6 months ago
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ELVIS WAS NEVER A SERIOUS KARATEKA, IT TAKES NO EXPERT TO SEE THAT
THE BIGGEST FAVOUR ANY GENUINE ELVIS LOVING FAN CAN DO HIS LEGACY IS TO HELP BURRY THESE EMBARASSING ELVIS KARATE CLIPS FOREVER.
toons999 7 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal I continue to discover new stuff about ELVIS that I didn't know. Maybe, new footage will appear one day.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal I can't say for certain but I'm willing to guess that there's more footage of ELVIS demonstrating his abilities in the martial arts locked away in a vault somewhere.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Ok, here's a fact. ELVIS brought attention to the martial artists that very few have been able to do outside of the martial arts community (examples: Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, Jackie Chan). Even you have to admit that counts for something.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Rhee was given 50000 and a cadillac that Elvis did own for while - now I ask you - if you were a teacher given that money by a famous person who wanted to go into business with you - after all Elvis did help set up Rhee would you think that your organisation might be not obliged to show their gratitude by say making an award to their benefactor - what could they give? I think they'd give an honourary rank - which would have no real meaning but would be a nice gesture of thanks.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Listen I know this - it takes 4-5 years just to make Black belt in TKD Rhee's style - heck any Martial art style at least 5 years. Elvis met Rhee in 1970 recommended to Elvis by his former Instructor Ed Parker - he only trained with Rhee for 4 years - he was awarded an honorary 7th by Rhee in '73 because - and this is in Rhee's own words - because Elvis asked for a 7th Dan because the No.7 was spiritual to him - Rhee says that too - you can't be a real 7th dan in just 3 years
omurchu12 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal The attitude that it's not my job to teach you anything is arrogant and goes against the teachings of martial arts. You can learn something from everybody.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal I follow you alright? What you're saying is, because of who ELVIS was there's no way he could earn anything honestly. You're saying he was a liar, a cheat and a scam. That's exactly what I'm talking about. He may not have been the greatest martial artist in history but who is. Anybody can be beaten on any given day no matter how great their credentials are.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal I'm not out of control? I'm trying to teach you to respect others. You attitude did get you in trouble. Yours attitude attracted my attention and it will attract others that might not think twice about doing you harm. What's this son stuff? I haven't been called son in years.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal I wouldn't discuss with this guy any further - yesterday he did the old fall on his own sword routine - after informing me Rhee met Elvis in 1960, i checked Mr' Rhee himself - He was introduced to Elvis in '70 by a FORMER instructor Mr Parker - he then trained only 'til '74 being awarded his 'Honourary' (toilet paper) 7th in '73 - so our friend here - the big Elvis fan - couldn't even get his fanboy facts right -tut -tut elvisworldwide, the King would not be amused....
omurchu12 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal - Excellent. Please continue. How does your astute and well-reasoned response apply to Elvis Presley's achievement and ranking in Kenpo-style Karate?
elvisworldwide 8 months ago
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omurchu12 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal - Okay, the Narc Badge argument is a good one. I should only point out that getting that badge was a spur-of-the-moment thing involving a one-time meeting with President Nixon, and the Karate rank took place over years of discipline and commitment. And remember: Elvis gave everybody money and cars, even perfect strangers. This subject would make a good documentary.
elvisworldwide 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal - Thank you. Exactly. So - point is - one Kenpo 5th degree looks different from another, depending on the individual. Yes. You better believe it.
elvisworldwide 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal ELVIS isn't here to hear your jokes but if he was he would be very hurt by them. Don't you have any compassion? I thought martial arts training included compassion for others.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal You're the ones acting like children. You obviously missed out on the self-discipline part of your training because you continue to run people into the ground when they're no longer here to defend themselves. You did threaten me. You said I was going to end up dead. That's a threat. You worded it so it wouldn't come off as a direct threat but you threatened me nevertheless. I don't want enemies, I just want you guys to stop and think before you say stuff that hurts others.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal And you need to use your self-discipline to refrain from talking shit about other people. Act like you have respect for others even if you don't like them.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal - The only absolute certainty in all of this is - IF - Elvis bought his ranks with money and cars - than his GM, Kang Rhee, a man whom Elvis trained with knew since 1960, sold out in 1974. Let me ask you this: Is it possible for a Bruce Lee black belt and a Chuck Norris black belt to be two entirely different martial artists? Rhetorical question.
elvisworldwide 8 months ago
@donn409 Hey, Don! Look up 'Daigonkan Kenpo' online & check out our dojo! Today is gradings with the Black Belts...we have work to do, but we'd love if you'd join us! Sorry I missed you raging for a whole page & a half yesterday! Would have liked to have been there for that, but I actually WORK for a living, so I couldn't play with you. Glad you and omurchu12 had fun...he's the real deal. He'll be at the gradings with the other Black Belts if you want to come watch. Door's always open for you!
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu I'll tell you what, cunt face. Since you think you're so fucking bad I'll give you my address and you can come get me. Oh, and your friend is nothing but a talker. He's all bluff and no stuff just like you.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal There's not a whole brain between the lot of you. So much for your educated debate.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Me go to prison? That's a laugh! You're the one more than likely to go to prison. I'm sure you'd become somebody's bitch as well while you're there. You ran your mouth first and claimed to have discipline. If you're so disciplined you would've learned to keep your comments about others to yourself. If you criticize others you in turn will be criticized.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal You're the one that threatened my life dickwad, I just said I'd defend myself. You have no discipline. If you did you wouldn't be criticizing someone else when you should be looking at your own shortcomings. You can shove your anger up your candy ass!
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal - Finally, a respectable, well-reasoned, and honest comment from someone. The other hatemongers will always be students only because their arrogant minds supercede all else.
elvisworldwide 8 months ago
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omurchu12 8 months ago
@elvisworldwide still talking shite - eh mate? so if a guy/girl gets a job above you in work with 'awarded' degrees and you see that, and you see you are better at the work than him/her - you'd be happy to accept that? After you earned your degree and position? But maybe because they show 'good spirit' they should do better than you? Got there, not on merit but because their folks knew someone or they paid someone. Or would you prefer they were better than you and did earn their degrees?
omurchu12 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Maybe he'll come back later. Thank God there was nothing on the telly tonight...I haven't laughed so hard in years!! ;D
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu You weren't the only ones laughing. I couldn't believe how ignorant you guys are. You think you're all so disciplined and you're on here arguing with someone you think is undisciplined. How childish is that?
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 We were hoping for a reasonable, well-argued, INTELLIGENT, FACT-BASED discussion on the actual merits & authenticity of Elvis' skills & ranks. We were WAITING for you to make a GOOD POINT, not rage, threaten & call names! You made kind of a fool of yourself & it was funny holding you by the forehead & watching you flailing away trying to hit something. Admit, we all had good points. The debate on Elvis will go on, with or without you. Come prepared next time. We await you, LOL! ;)
bikizuzu 8 months ago 7
@bikizuzu You people aren't interested in debate, intelligent or otherwise. You're only interested in running people down for kicks. You say you're so disciplined. Don't make me laugh. Disciplined people treat others with repect. Even when they don't like someone or disagree they hold their tongues and act like they have some sense. I'm showing you the same disrespect that you're showing ELVIS and you don't like it.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 By this token, then, you yourself admit to being a hypocrite. You don't like ME, you don't agree with ME, but yet you've called me all sorts of names and threatened me with bodily harm...you've not kept your OWN tongue, as you suggest doing, nor had any sense. So by that token, you admit to having no discipline yourself. I never once called Elvis a crude name, nor said if he were alive, I could or would do HIM bodily harm. Your argument is flawed. Try again.
bikizuzu 8 months ago 2
@bikizuzu I was just trying to show you people that others have feelings. Listen, I apologize for anything that I said that hurt you. I don't have to try again. I think I've made my point.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Apology accepted. I'll stand behind my opinion that IN MY EYES as a Martial Artist of 40 years, Elvis isn't showing 7th/8th-Dan skills here. I want to know WHY he was awarded a rank that he's not showing skills for. As a Martial Artist, I have questions. I'm entitled to them. If you have experience as a Martial Artist then I'll respect that. NOT name-calling. If you believe Elvis was good at karate I'll respect that too, but you should be prepared to back up your argument as to WHY.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu I'll say something I believe we both agree on. ELVIS brought huge attention to the martial arts that few outside of the martial arts community has.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 The initial point that was made, was that IN THESE CLIPS, Elvis' form by 8TH DEGREE KENPO STANDARDS, is very poor. The initial debate was whether or not Elvis earned (as in TESTED FOR) any other degrees besides the first-degree black he received. He did study a long time. It doesn't necessarily mean that he ever TESTED again. You can find pictures of his certificates for his 7th and 8th-Dan ranks CLEARLY MARKED 'HONORARY.' This is a FACT; you don't have to like it, but it's FACT.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu Both of us obviously see something different in these clips. You see someone who doesn't know what he's doing while I see the exact opposite. Each of us have our own "facts" and beliefs. I'll respect yours if you'll respect mine.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal My point is this. KISS MY ENTIRE ASS YOU JANKY ASS BAD LUCK MUTHA FUCKA! I'll be back tomorrow to continue this. I'm hungry and unlike you I have a life outside the world wide wide. See ya later aligator.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Guess what I'm laughing about? I'm laughing because you're a piece of shit. Now, that's funny.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Tell the truth? You suck horse dicks, don't you? There is no debate. I'm right, your wrong. End of discussion.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 I was laughing so hard I couldn't type! Did you just say you'd pick up your GIRLFRIEND and bash cuthach's head in?? OMG, LOLWUT?? Does your girlfriend know your going to use her as a weapon? Is she ok with this? Sorry, mate, but that made me teehee. You're really funny. I'd almost be willing to buy you a pint if you weren't so truly ignorant. LOL! Poor Janice! ;D
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu Janice is my fucking baseball bat, you asshole! Yes, if your friend attempted to assault and batter me I would crack his fucking head like a walnut and I'd do the same to you if you tried anything.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal You're the one raging. You can't stand the fact that ELVIS did more to promote the martial arts in his short life than you could in 100 years.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 that's so weird - because when I pick up any Martial Arts publication, especially ones from the US like Black Belt and Inside Kung Fu - they NEVER mention Elvis - they do mention Bruce Lee - do you think(Christ talk about irony...)that's because in the eyes of Martial Artists Bruce did make a contribution and Elvis didn't - say anyone see an Elvis magazine out there lately? Gee no. Wonder why?
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 I don't know what planet you're living on but I've seen ELVIS appear in martial arts articles. I like Bruce, so I would never say a bad thing about him. You, I have plenty to speak about. I never see you in any magazines.
donn409 8 months ago
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omurchu12 8 months ago
@donn409 name them - I have read Inside Kung fu for years and BlackBelt also - I have read from the UK - Combat and Martial Arts Ilustrated and from Australia Blitz magazine - from the philippines another - here in Ireland Irish Fighter - and oh yes I was in one, the first ever issue of Irish Warrior - as a green belt over 20 years ago I attended a Black Belt grading - never ever have I seen an article on Elvis - tons on Bruce though - what country do you live in?
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 You've missed some issues obviously. Congrats on your cover. You've framed it, no doubt?
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 I ain't a glory hound - and it was an article - not the cover - which issues did you or fatdeadboy appear in? oh that's right none - not even in the States LOL
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 You look the articles up yourself shit head, I'm not your fucking slave. If you missed some issues that's your problem.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Yea, and you're most likely a pot-bellied pig who can only get his feet two inches off the ground.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal If you were standing in front of me you wouldn't touch a hair on my head and you know it. And you know why? Because I would pick up my girlfriend, Janice and bash your fucking head in proper. I've only had to fight on handful of occasions and that's enough to let people know that I'm not to be triffled with.
donn409 8 months ago
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omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 I have a better idea. How about if I take Janice and knock your ass the fuck out? Then you'll be a complete mess. Mike Stone would've been dead cause ELVIS would blew his fucking brains out.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Janice LOL - do you realise how stupid you sound - and hey - I'm also like Filipino Bolos - that's a machette - I 'd cut you into kebab meat you dope - get a gun - I'm ex-army I'd shoot you from 500 yards away - and Elvis sucked it up like a bitch - 'cos he's dead and Mike Stone is still walking tall, I told you - I'd break your arms if you bought that piece of shit with you - and then I'll shove it up your ass - you might enjoy that - you seem to like having Elvis's up there.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 Let's dance, bitch! I'll welcome any shit you think you can dish out. ELVIS and me will be waiting for ya.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 so that'll be 2 dead rednecks then - I'll see if they'll scatter your ashes in Graceland and hey Bitch you mentioned the articles - you prove it! I read last months Black Belt and Inside Kung Fu - lots of Bruce no fat wannabe king of rock and roll Karate masters - wonder why? oh yes - he was shit....
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 You'll kill me? Yea, you and what army because I would lay your ass to waste. Get your own proof. I'm getting something to fucking eat. Oh, and you're a piece of shit.
donn409 8 months ago
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omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 You call that humor? You Brits have always sucked at humor just like you suck at everything else.
donn409 8 months ago
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omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 I love the Irish. I'm a fan of JFK, Ronaldus Reagan, and Mayor Joe Smith (know him?). You're GD right the Irish built America, along with the Anglos (sic), the Italians and the Jews, the Africans, etc. ad infinitum. Finally we agree on something, Murph. For the record, Elvis was mostly German, with a touch Scotch-Irish, Italian and even Cherokee Indian. Oh, and he was a credited Black Belt in MA's.
elvisworldwide 8 months ago
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omurchu12 8 months ago
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omurchu12 8 months ago
@elvisworldwide Go suck yourself there mate - or as we say Pog Mo Thoin - that's a real language - like the belts around my waist, unlike poor Elvis, I feel sorry for the guy - bad as he was, with guys like you bigging him up, making his abilities seem more than they were, he never had a chance- At best he's remembered as a standard for how you DON'T want to be - at least he's dead and can't do any more harm. Reagan, Clinton, Obama, Elvis - not bad for Ireland the list goes on, Eire go brea!
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 - You do your nation proud. Happy farming, you peasant.
elvisworldwide 8 months ago
@elvisworldwide well, well, well look who crawled out from under his rock into the light of day! Missed you pal! Anymore 'true' Elvis facts for me? Bit of 10 year cock up there yesterday huh? The Elvis fan that didn't even know Elvis facts, Stick around son - this peasant will unearth more truth for you - lay off the drugs though - they appear to be making you bipolar - as you recall they didn't work out so good for Elvis either - wouldn't want you to end up in a Brett Easton Ellis book now!
omurchu12 8 months ago
@elvisworldwide Dan Grades
These grades goes from 1st Dan (Shodan) to 8th Dan (Hachidan). These are the adult grades and will take a lifetime to progress though. The minimum time anyone can take to go from Shodan to Hachidan is 36 years. However this would require not failing a single grade! For perspective, the pass rate for hachidan exams is commonly less than 0.1% More good news for you! Elvis studied 19 years right? oh that's a shortfall of.... oh 17 years....
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@omurchu12 He was better at martial arts than you.
Electronitron 1 week ago
@Electronitron I sincerely doubt it, He never was - and was given his belts - he never even fought - check out his old instructor Bill Wallace who in this month's Martial Arts Illustrated he says Elvis never sparred- a 7th that never sparred? Pull the other one - He was given his belts. Bought and paid for, he never earned them.You shouldn't talk when you don't know what you're on about pal.
omurchu12 1 week ago
@elvisworldwide I did mention I was from Dublin right? That's a city - not a farm - you do know the difference right? Oh hang on ....tut tut sure you didn't even know the difference between 1960 and 1970 - that's 10 years - in case you forgot - they did educate you in that country of yours? While you check that - check the difference between Honorary and Conferred - then we'll get you started on ethics.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 - Not enough time! 36 years! Subtract 2 from 17! Can't be done! Show me video proof! Elvis' teacher sold out (after 17 years of lessons).
You are decidedly insane.
elvisworldwide 8 months ago
@elvisworldwide Look mate - go to Rhee's page and look at his Achievements posted by the man himself - He was only recognised as a 7th dan by his own country in 1975 - so he promoted Elvis - his student to a HIGHER rank than himself in '73? and again in '74 when he made him an 8th while Rhee wasn't a 7th until 1975? - Time travelling again? Also I did find a record of Elvis getting a Blue belt from the Tennesse Karate Institute in 1974 signed by Parker - that I believe! Blue is lower than Black
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 Hold it there one fucking minute! I assumed you were from Northern Ireland which is British territory. No insult intended, but why did you guys let the British Empire take over Northern Ireland? Another thing, I'm not Canadian. I'm a mix of Blackfoot, Cherokee, English, German, Dutch and Jewish. You may have gave the U.S. J.F.K. but you most definitely didn't give us ELVIS. ELVIS' people were Scotish, Cherokee and Jewish. I'm many things but ignorant isn't one of them.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 First off - when the 1916 uprising happened - we were getting our country back - but in order for the brits to save face they wouldn't give up the counties where there was a Protestant majority - That was then - since then Irish catholics are on the verge of being in the majority and in a vote would probably ask to join the Republic hence the Anglo-Irish Agreement - now both Ireland and the UK oversee the running of N.Ireland that has a parliament for both sides .
omurchu12 8 months ago
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omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 I think Northern Ireland should be run by the Irish period! The English have no right to stick their noses in Irish business.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 further to that - I'd be real careful saying Brit to someone from N/Ireland as they may not be - they would call themselves Irish too - heck even some of the Protestants would call themselves Irish - they have intermarried - I know loads - U2 Bono Irish protestant - Adam - English protestant - the Edge Welsh whatever larry - Irish Catholic so you see my point in calling you Canadian, just because you live in North America? By the way Google Elvis - Irish blood to be sure, to be sure.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 Maybe, we're both right. I've heard the Germans say ELVIS was one of theirs and I've heard the same from some Mexicans because some of ELVIS' mother's people were from Texas.
donn409 8 months ago
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omurchu12 8 months ago
@donn409 Ah I was only pulling your leg there mate, like I was when I said I lived in a castle - regardless of where his people came from he was an American first and foremost - It was interesting news to me his racial background.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 I didn't know about ELVIS' Native American and Jewish ancestary until I was in my late teens. If it would've got out in the 1950s that he had Native American and Jewish bloodlines the media would've used it in another attempt to destroy him. They never let up on him even after he died. And Michael Jackson's fans think he got a bad rap.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Well - that's a problem - no offense that may have been on your side of the pond - I can't say I ever heard stuff like that about Elvis in Ireland or MJ - my point in all this has been about the integrity of what I study myself, what I know and am still learning about, the Martial Arts - In any human endeavour you want the highest prize/rank/standard that you're aiming for to mean it's the best and those that already have them should do because they have the skill and earned them.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 There are people, rich and poor, throughout history, that for one reason or another took shortcuts in some area of their lives. Most do these days. The truth is, ELVIS can still inspire you to be the very best that you can be at whatever you're doing. He didn't have to be the greatest martial artist of all-time to accomplish that.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Well I certainly won't deny that, mate.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 You also inspire others to be the best that they can be.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 If I'm lucky - I will, all I can do for certain is master what I'm taught, earn my grades and respect of my teachers and fellow students and If I end up doing some instructing, try and pass that on - I wish you the best with your health and your college.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 Thank you for your kindness. I know everyone who comes in contact with you will have their lives enriched for the better.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Let me ask you a serious question - you are in college right? what are you studying? no joking or slagging you off - serious question ok?
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 I'm not in college. I wanted to go back but I've been very sick and had to put off going back.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Well I'm sorry to hear that - really. I was going to say would you have respect for an honourary degree or the full do four years of studying and exams one. But it doesn't matter - when I got into this I hoped I was wrong because EP had been a hero to me too - the more you guys bugged me the more I dug and today I found a website that was selling EP's Blue belt cert that he earned in '74 signed by Ed Parker - I' m not laughing about this because it was a huge disappointment to me...
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 Just because you found out that ELVIS may not have earned a certain rank in martial arts doesn't mean that he was a fake. It just means he was human like the rest of us. He even said it himself, "Jesus is "THE KING", I'm just a entertainer." I respect that he was able to keep his ego in check despite the level of fame that he achieved. Most performers believe their own headlines and think they are gods and goddesses.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 I would agree with that - he was a student of the Martial Arts - His abilities were far beneath those of a genuine person of that rank, his contributions were genuine and he was rewarded for that with some Honorary Certificates - I'll give you that - but as far as being those ranks no way - no more than me if I was given an honorary degree compared to a real degree you earned - would you like that after you put in four years of hard work and me because I'm rich/famous? That's my POV.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 ELVIS would respect what you've acomplished. As a matter of fact he supported other martial artists that he admired and worked with. Bill "Superfoot" Wallace and Mike Stone are two men that ELVIS honored and respected for their contributions to martial arts.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Well I respect him for his contributions to Kenpo and as he was a fellow student but not a master though and I will respect his accomplishments as a singer/entertainer. Nobody can deny that.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 Nobody is perfect, even ELVIS. He was the first to admit it to.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Word of warning: Be careful when dealing with people who claim to have items owned by ELVIS. The majority for sale are fakes. ELVIS still "THE KING".
donn409 8 months ago
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omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 Who do you think you are, Fit Finley? Your hero has a Scotish name. How weird is that? Tennis isn't a real man's sport.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 That was golf mate - try keeping up with things - it was only headlines around the world - and Golf is a Scottish game - Scots people are Celts just like us so we're all family - our native tongues are pretty similar - there's there great thing called Google - try it! So Scots people and Irish are related - that's why you see we get along. My best mate is Scottish and he reckons Scots people are Irish people that just liked colder wetter weather. He is joking by the way....
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 I apologize for my error. The Picts were some of your relatives as well.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Well thanks - the Picts certainly were - as for the Brits - well they were invited in over 800 years ago ....trouble was nobody knew they'd outstay their welcome! But the Irish weren't the only ones in that boat - ask India - Africa even you guys had to give them their marching orders...lol
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 Yea, you're right. Because of my Native American bloodlines I still get angry about how my ancestars were treated by the white man.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Man that was bad - I can in some small way relate,we nearly lost our language/culture and were harshly ruled for over 800 years. But they didn't defeat you guys no more than they did us and that's all that matters - so heads up - look them in the eye - and remember they put their pants one leg at a time like the rest of us. You beat them by earning it - They can never deny ability, that's how I do it mate. You'll do fine.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 We'll both do fine because we're fighters.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Too right mate.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal You aren't as tough as you think you are, mate. You may have outlived ELVIS but he's more alive than your limp dicked ass ever will be. Your threats to kick my ass are just that, threats.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Moaning and groaning is what happened when your old lady fucked the t.v. repair man. How's that?
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Fuck you, dickheads!
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Do you actually think that your "proper form" works 100% in every situation? You can do everything right and still get your ass kicked which is what would happen if you ever tried to follow through with your threat on my person. People have freedom of speech and no one, not even you with your "proper form", have any right putting their hands on anybody. You go learn discipline! You obviously didn't learn it from your master.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Why don't you take a hike dumb ass. If you had any real knowledge and respect for the martial arts you'd know that your worst enemy is a streetfigher.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal LOL! It didn't work. Try counting again...this time to go 100 by odds. Troll! ;D
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu You can take your troll and shove that up your candy asses!
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, cuthachXaingeal!
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Of course I never did everything perfectly, nor did I expect my students to. But when you're claiming to be an 8th-Dan Black Belt, your movements and form should reflect that; my point is that Elvis' form does not reflect that. It's just that simple, and you've actually strengthened my point. Elvis did earn at least his 1st-Dan belt, but he couldn't have reached 8th even by the time he died; it can't be done, which you'd understand if you studied.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu How do you know someone can't reach 8th degree in the time ELVIS did? People progress in their own time. Maybe, ELVIS knew subconsciously that his life would be cut short and put extra effort into his training.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal A real martial artist would never attempt to kick a gun out of someone's hand you idiot. That shows how much you know. You do the fucking math!
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal I told you he has a hard time with this concept. I warned you, LOL!
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu You can take your concept and shove it up your candy ass and when you're done give it to your friend and he can shove it up his.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal Fuck you! You have no authority to tell me to shut up so I suggest you let me speak my peace. The fool is you, fool, so don't try that Kwai Chang Caine philosophy on me. You say ELVIS sucked, I say he knew what he was doing. Next you'll be saying he lipsynched.
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal The colors cuthachXaingeal shows are yellow.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 LOL! What 'business' do I have having dual citizenship? It's not a matter of business, it's a matter of circumstance; one that was made for me before I was old enough to have a say in the matter. Thank you for paying your taxes so America could blow stuff up; happy? Of course Elvis has my respect for being in the military; never said he didn't. This isn't about world affairs, either. Stop clouding the issue. This is about Elvis' skill and whether or not he actually EARNED his high rank.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu Well, I say ELVIS displayed his technique with skill. I guess you always did things perfectly when you trained?
donn409 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal I'll tell you what. We can just agree to disagree. You say ELVIS sucks. I say he displayed real technique. You say he messed up trying to disarm an opponent. I say, if he was that inept he would've tried to kick the gun out of his opponent's hand rather than use the technique he used.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 You have NO respect, or you wouldn't have offered to hand me my ass today. My opinion is still THIS: It's not a matter of Elvis doing anything the SAME as other Kenpo practitioners or not, it's a matter of him doing them CORRECTLY, which he is NOT. It is also misleading to claim a LEGITIMATE, EARNED rank for something he did not actually TEST for. I hope anyone who DID train with Elvis only did it one time, and then found a teacher who knew PROPER form. You're still missing the point.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu You started this, not I. And it's you that's missing the point. If you can't say something nice about somebody don't say anything at all. I guess you've done everything in your whole life perfectly? You sound like a elementary school teacher telling a student that they're doing the math problem wrong even when they come up with the right answer.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Your response makes no sense. Why are you blathering on at ME about a comment I didn't make about "THE KING"? You want the OTHER Irishman, you dolt! At least direct your comments to the right people!
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@cuthachXaingeal LOL, thanks for the moral support. I subscribed to your old channel, btw...GOOD vids of you and the guys.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@donn409 Just for the record, I have dual citizenship. I spent half my life in America, so don't give me the old "American superiority" shite. It never occur to you that I might have been a soldier? And my brother was a Navy Seal. Any true MA practitioner knows that the arts are universal; it doesn't matter where in the world you live, as long as your spirit is true to your art. I spent my whole life doing MA's because they were IMPORTANT to me. So I ask again, what have YOU done to contribute?
bikizuzu 8 months ago 3
@bikizuzu What business do you have having dual citizenship? You're either an American or a European. You can't serve two masters. Don't try to turn this around. It's you Europeans that think you're so much damn better than Americans. It makes me sick to think my country has starving people and they're sending money and aid overseas. Our leaders are selling us up the river without a paddle to help your people. The U.S. should've remained neutral in world affairs and taken care of their own.
donn409 8 months ago
@bikizuzu Has it ever occurred to you that ELVIS deserves respect for serving in the U.S. military regardless of what you think about his martial arts skills? I paid the taxes so you could blow people up. That's what I contributed.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 I actually never once called you a lowlife OR said you sleep with your sister. Didn't say I'm rich or refined, either. I'm just someone who's done Martial Arts of one kind or another their whole life, and I KNOW what I'm talking about, especially when I say Elvis didn't legitimately EARN a high-ranking degree in Kenpo. His lack of ability speaks for itself on the video. You've reduced this whole thing to a name-calling pissing contest. You've no respect for MA practitioners anywhere.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu On the contrary, I have the utmost respect for people in the martial arts. My problem is this. None of us have trained with ELVIS. Therefore, we should all keep our opinions to ourselves about what his skills or expertise is. Some of you can get on here and say he's not doing it right or whatever but the truth is, no two people do anything the same.
donn409 8 months ago
@bikizuzu ELVIS never said he was the greatest at anything. As a matter of fact when he heard people call him "THE KING" he always responded, "Jesus Christ is "THE KING". I'm just an entertainer." I've never heard another person say anything remotely like that, including martial artists.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Deep breaths, son. You're ranting. Listen to what you just wrote to me; nobody's going to be able to take you seriously now, even if you'd had a point to make at the start of all this. But now I'm amused, and you have my attention...how are you planning on handing me my ass, exactly? Going to swim across the pond and challenge me to battle, are you? If it's a battle of wits, you're already under-equipped. It's Sunday; go read Black Belt Magazine and spend some time with your sister. ;)
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu You can take your deep breaths and shove them up your candy ass! You say you're amused? I'm amused that people on your side of the ocean still believe you're superior to Americans. Hitler would've annilhiated you blokes if it hadn't been for us.
donn409 8 months ago
@bikizuzu Since I'm a lowlife that sleeps with his sister I can't possibly afford to cross the pond to fight you. Since you're so rich and refined why don't you bring your ass over here and show me your superiority? That's right, another excuse. That's what I thought. You're nothing but a dimwitted hob-knocker.
donn409 8 months ago
@elvis Actually just wanted to thank you for putting up the video, but mostly for the words describing Elvis as the "greatest entertainer the world has ever known." I'm pretty much is agreement with you: He was one of a kind, copied but never duplicated. This video is certainly great entertainment, and has spurred plenty of debate. It would have been amazing to see what Elvis had done with the rest of his days if he'd lived. Respect. :)
bikizuzu 8 months ago 2
@donn409 Somebody's grumpy today! Looks like something hit a nerve! ;D
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@donn409 Spelling and sentence structure, really?? Pfftt, LOL! Your response is juvenile, humourous, and deserves no response in itself. Elvis will always be remembered as the King of Rock & Roll, never any argument there! I'LL be remembered for the black belts that I helped train, that have gone on to their own successes and successful students. That is MY legacy, and I've been at it a long time. What did YOU do today? :)
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu You can say what you want. I'm not the one with spelling problems and putting together sentences. That makes me question the knowledge of anything you claim to have. Nobody gives a god damn what you think. You wont be remembered for shit, fucktard. What did I do today? I came back on here to say, fuck you. You have no legacy. I take that back. You do have a legacy. It's called getting your ass handed to you by yours truly.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Like I said, you're a troll and a mindless follower. You're 40 and you leave a resoonse like a 14-year-old?!? Um, ok, you just ruined any credibility you might have had (which really was none anyways). LOOK IT UP: In the videos, online, where-ever; you can see the certificate itself that SAYS "Honourary". I don't need to make stuff up to discredit Elvis, his MOVES are doing it for him! Did you go look at some REAL Kenpo videos yet, btw? Don't be a sheep; think for yourself on this one.
bikizuzu 8 months ago 7
@bikizuzu Don't tell me I act like a 14 year old when you can't even spell or put together a half-way decent sentence. It's you that lacks credibility my ignorant friend. One things for sure ELVIS will still be remembered years from now while your pathetic ass is decomposing in the ground and forgotten. Give it up because you're not convincing anyone to see things your way.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 I notice you don't have any Martial Arts experience. Nobody is debating that Elvis was a great singer OR a great man, but he was human. Nobody denies his drug use. He may have loved karate, and he did earn at least a 1st-Dan level of black belt, but it's also a known fact that his 7th/8th degrees were awarded as HONOURARY degrees, not EARNED degrees. Some of us work HARD to earn our degrees; we don't want to BUY them like Elvis did. That's not what the Martial Arts is all about.
bikizuzu 8 months ago 2
@bikizuzu You say ELVIS bought his degrees. Did you ask him? The people you get your information from want to discredit him because of who he was. ELVIS may or may not have been the greatest in the martial arts but then again nobody can make that claim. Anyone can be beaten at any given time and no belt, black, red or green will make a difference.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Oh you sad little trollfag. Go away now, the adults want to talk.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu I will never go away. I will keep coming back for the rest of eternity. HA,HA,HA!
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 so now you're an immortal - bit mad are'nt you? throwing your toys out of the pram, MAMMY! They don't believe me when I say Elvis was great!! Here baby, suck on your dummy, dummy - go back to sleep now, that's a good fuckwit. Back to fantasy land - where you're always right, God what an idiot,
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 Psychology doesn't work on me, so you're just wasting your time, dick wipe. You just can't stand the fact that "THE KING" is more man than you'll ever be. Stop your pathetic whining and bitching. You're such a fucktard.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 I know Psychology won't work on you - you brain fried moron - because you have no sense of reality, I'll always be more man than a dead guy - and I'm already a year older then he was - when he died - guess I'm more successful than the 'King' huh? By the way - he wrote none of his songs - so what's he 'king' of? Did'nt get his Martial Art grades - did'nt write his songs - great singer - that was it - funny how none of you 'tards post a pic of him before he died - denial anybody?
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 You think you're being smart when in fact you're showing how truly ignorant you are. What's wrong, did you catch you're old lady masturbating to ELVIS' pictures? You think you know it all when you know nothing and you are no man. You are a pathetic loser that has no honor or integrity and no one will remember your name when you are dead, dead, dead! Deny that, fucktard!
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 I am smart child - I don't hero worship pathetic fat fuck-ups that had to pay for their grades - HELLO? stuck in '68 are you? Is that what happened to you and your old lady - oh that's right you don't HAVE any - just your Elvis wank sock . I train and I'll be remembered as one that EARNED his grades - and I'm well known enough by REAL people and family - unlike poor Elvis and you. Now calm down and stop throwing your toys of the pram just because reality has crashed into you.
omurchu12 8 months ago
@omurchu12 EWWW! You hurt my feelings. What ever shall I do? I feel like my world just ended. NOT! Listen up, slapnuts! You can talk shit until you're blue in the face and the only people that will listen are your five gay lovers that you fucked up the ass to get your degree.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Seriously? THAT'S the best you can do?? Even if I did post a video of me doing these techniques PROPERLY, you wouldn't look at it any more than you're willing to look at videos of any OTHER Martial Artists doing these techniques PROPERLY now. You still aren't listening. You have no experience of your own to back up ANY valid argument, except for your slavish devotion to a dead musician. Elvis was the King of Rock & Roll, NOT Kenpo. His rank was only on paper; now go look it up.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@donn409 You don't really have any good arguments on this subject, do you? You've yet to say anything except call names and trashtalk. You're a sad little troll who likes to make trouble, & unless you show me some CONCRETE EVIDENCE on why this is proper form, I'm not buying a word you say. Go find me a video of either Elvis showing proper form, or bring me one of say, Jeff Speakman, looking this bad. Now run along and do your homework.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu Since you think you can do better show me. Put a video on YouTube showing me "proper form". Until then leave "THE KING" alone.
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 Stop being a troll and making yourself look foolish. Calling me names does nothing to further your argument as to why we're expected to accept this drivel as GOOD KENPO FORM. You don't really need ME to post a video to see proper Kenpo, but you CAN go look up Jeff Speakman or Ed Parker or TracyKenpo for starters, if you want to see what it's SUPPOSED to look like. This is simply unacceptable form for a supposed 7th Dan karateka. Get over it.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@donn409 Your argument is invalid. I could ask you to do the same. Doing so wouldn't change the fact that what we're actually discussing here is the misrepresentation of Kenpo. If someone else did forms this poorly, they'd be shot down for the failure they were, but because it's Elvis, it's ok?? No, stop making a smokescreen. I respect Elvis for his talent as a MUSIC performer, always will. But I won't respect ANYONE who takes a rank with MONEY.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@omurchu12 You bring up a good point: What person that TRULY respects his art, as Elvis (and everybody in his pocket & up his arse) supposedly did, comes to teach a class to both beginners & Black Belts alike, HIGH OFF HIS FECKIN GOURD?? That's NOT respect to the art or to its true followers!! I'd have thrown any of my students out if they came in like that, or walked out on another instructor for being obviously under the influence. (LOL @ his pants ripping, btw! ;D)
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@omurchu12 Would you like to explain to the class WHY Red was so obviously pulling his punches at Elvis' midsection? Or why that gun-disable move would have KILLED anyone actually trying it? Or how there are NO actual RED BELTS in Kenpo? Or WHY Elvis had to be shown how to do that front snap-kick properly; a 7th Dan should have known how to do that as a beginner! Explain the math on why it's not possible to have received that rank in that short of time. Let's do this with irrefutable logic.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu Would you explain to all of us why you're such a dick?
donn409 8 months ago
@donn409 There's no need for abusive language; you just lower yourself to 'TROLL' status. You seem to be kind of a troublemaker, so I'm not going to waste time on you unless you can have a civilised discussion. I have black belts in two different styles of karate & was a former instructor who saw MANY of my students get their own black belts. I assure you I DO know proper Kenpo form when I see it. If you disagree, explain why respectfully or keep quiet, please.
bikizuzu 8 months ago
@bikizuzu If you so damn great put a video of yourself on YouTube demonstrating your superior knowledge and abilities.