@division247 You mean, what do I think of the Roman Catholic Church? Satanic. Do you know the Bible prophesized the coming of ánd the horrors committed by this institute?
@EdjeBos and.. you misunderstood my question, i was interested in your view of a social and political situation of the period. ..and yes, i read the bible. croatia is, unfortunately for me, full of religious people who have a tendency discard any logic or science theory in favor of their faith (or their version united only by the same name) and then to stuff it up to kids in public education.
have you tried to write your comment in dutch and translate it to english? do you get absolutely the same point, without distortion of meaning or sentence structure?
may i suggest that you read something in area of linguistics, maybe language processing? in short... the idea originated in one language can not be translated to another language without losing or adding some of the meaning in the process, even the replication of the idea in the same language has the same result.
@division247 Let me ask you this: what are the chances the writers of the Gospels were familiar with both Aramic and Greek? I say big.. Do you have any problems saying what you mean in English? Since you are Croatian and your grammar is good, I don't think so. You must realize the first christian congregations were held in houses. The establishment of a 'christian' religious institute, like the R.C. church, was centuries after that. The R.C. church is anything but christian.
@EdjeBos that depends on what do you THINK the writers were, some educated men or working people. there is no historical evidence that lower class even knew how to write, moreover that they read greek literature on a daily basic so..
look, i'm not questioning you faith at all, you can belive in a flying spaghetti monster as far as i am concerned. but, please, don't be so arrogant to neglect the whole scientific theory just because you don't understand it and is contradict with your argument.
i'd just like to know how on earth did you manage to create an educational videos and still miss the point of religion itself?!
i got the feeling you're a teist, and despite all of the evidence you presented and researched, still you won't except the fact that religions are just instruments of ruling. well planed, of course, but still..
it's not so perculiar that exact same simbols are found in every possible religion that exist.. they all came form the same one.
@division247 I did not create any vid I posted. I just post what I want the world to know. There is a difference between organized religion and believing in (a) God. The God of the Bible hates symbolism and warnes for the users of symbols. Watch Where The Rabbit Hole Ends entirely, if you really want to learn about the forces of this world.
@EdjeBos oi! i wasn't even mentioning organized religion. my point was..
you took couple of verses from the book written 2000 years ago, originally written on greek language, translated to latin then translated to english (or whatever language is your native) and claim that that verse is the same one Jesus or God said..
@EdjeBos your assumption doesn't seems so plausible to me, even more because of the facts that Jesus spoke armenian and Bible was created by the man that weren't even born when Jesus died. from what source do you claim to know the word of God?
@EdjeBos "Where The Rabbit Hole Ends".. that's was my point in 1st post.. the concept of an existence of some deity is just a very powerful weapon for enslavement of the mases, nothing more. interpretations of the same story, originated some 6000 years ago, can be endless and are always connected with geopolitical situation of the time of interpretation.
@division247 "the concept of an existence of some deity is just a very powerful weapon for enslavement of the mases"
That doesn't mean there can not be a God or that the book is false. The book of Law could also be used for enslavement. That doesn't make the book bad, just the people using it. The history ánd accuracy of the Bible are amazing. Not to mention the prophecies fulfilled. The Bible ís the Word of the Living God.
@EdjeBos i agree.. any book could be used in that purpose..
but, the version of the book you interpret isn't the same book you claim to come from the god's mouth.
todays english version of the bible couldn't possibly be the same as the original set of stories from witch the bible consist and to which you refer your arguments. it is simply an edited copy of an edited copy of an edited copy and so on... therefore..you cannot be sure that any of the verses are in fact the word of a god.
@division247 "it is simply an edited copy of an edited copy of an edited copy and so on... " How do you know it is that simple? Do you have any idea how many original manuscripts there are? watch?v=NQrUQhcdwjI
And another thing: for some power to use this book as an enslavement-tool they would have needed total control of the copying worldwide. How do you think they did that? Who are 'they'? Impossible, imho.
@EdjeBos well, i know the bible is an edited copy because the Jesus spoke armenian and original text of the bible was written in greek. you can find many problems in language translating, and the meaning of the text translated is always changed. the other thing is institution of the church, they really had the absolute control over the interpretation of the bible since they had political power over christian states, also they had complete control over education for more than 1500 years..
@division247 Very poor argument. The gospels themselves are copies, because of the language-barrier? My native tongue is Dutch, but I have no problem at all speaking to you in English('copying' my thoughts to English..). Therefore, your 'many problems' are no problems at all. You talk about 'institution of the church' as 'they'. What institute? Absolute control?? As I said, impossible. Many translations were made without any church involved. Again, MANY original manuscripts as reference.
@CryIngRaIn111 You´re welcome! I needed to watch it several times to get a real grasp of what it is saying. The images from Saturn I had never seen before, so that was the first thing that blew me away. But the true meaning of this vid is that in the end it really is God vs Satan. The Bible warnes about these symbolisms and the religious institutes they represent. And to see the symbol of Saturn used in so many ways still, makes it beyond any doubt for me: the Bible is Truth! God bless.
@EdjeBos How can we even believe in the bible?. These same organizations are responsible for writing, editing, and deciding which of the hundreds of christian texts floating around at the time should go in the bible. (The ones that were most believable and not too obvious in contradictions) If you say that God kept protected his word from corruption, then why couldn't he protect his church?
@ibsd "If you say that God kept protected his word from corruption, then why couldn't he protect his church?"
That ís what I say. And it has everything to do with the free will He gave us, which you don't believe in. We humans are capable of choosing between right and wrong. We will be held accountable for our deeds. We have responsibility over our lives and that of the people around us. No free will: no accountability or justice. Mull this over a while.
@EdjeBos I meant that God didn't keep his church protected from corruption. Eastern Orthodox, Protestant, and especially Catholic practice and teach non-biblical and pagan concepts.
@ibsd I know. That's man's doing(free will). Take the R.C. church. They have had the time and the power to change the Bible as they saw fit to make it look like they were doing His Will. But today it is still obvious they make a mockery out of His Word, although they claim to believe in the God of the Bible. The Bible shows God is in control. Anyone(!) can see this church does everything God forbade by reading His Word. To this very day.
So whats your overall conclusion of all your videos?? And another question is why did you make it seem as if jesus was not real in videos 1-3, because you said jesus and the whole judeo christian theology was derived from ancient egyptian beliefs..
....So, how does it feel to the the ONE PERSON on this planet who is not "brainwashed" by Satan/Jesus?
It's very interesting stuff, don't get me wrong...but don't you think IF Satan was so powerfull he wouldn't have to go to such great lengths to decieve people?
BTW the "Hand of Lucifer" looked like a horse head...Hell you could pretty much make it out to be ANYTHING. ;p
@PhoneGlyph Yes, AnonymousTruther posted it under a name with 'Saturnial Cult' in it. It shook my world back then. I gave it this name because that's what I learned from this series ánd because there are a number of deceitful videos with that name, like the Zeitgeist version.
Nice try at fear propaganda. Surprised I made it through all these videos.
akahdrin 2 months ago
@akahdrin Fear propaganda?? You mean the truth is scary? Sorry.
EdjeBos 2 months ago
@EdjeBos I said nice try, as I wasn't scared considering this is all bs and based upon horrible assumptions anyways.
akahdrin 2 months ago
and one question, if i may.. what would be your interpretation of the Dark Ages? considering political structure, science and education..
division247 5 months ago
@division247 You mean, what do I think of the Roman Catholic Church? Satanic. Do you know the Bible prophesized the coming of ánd the horrors committed by this institute?
EdjeBos 5 months ago
@EdjeBos and.. you misunderstood my question, i was interested in your view of a social and political situation of the period. ..and yes, i read the bible. croatia is, unfortunately for me, full of religious people who have a tendency discard any logic or science theory in favor of their faith (or their version united only by the same name) and then to stuff it up to kids in public education.
division247 5 months ago
have you tried to write your comment in dutch and translate it to english? do you get absolutely the same point, without distortion of meaning or sentence structure?
may i suggest that you read something in area of linguistics, maybe language processing? in short... the idea originated in one language can not be translated to another language without losing or adding some of the meaning in the process, even the replication of the idea in the same language has the same result.
division247 5 months ago
@division247 Let me ask you this: what are the chances the writers of the Gospels were familiar with both Aramic and Greek? I say big.. Do you have any problems saying what you mean in English? Since you are Croatian and your grammar is good, I don't think so. You must realize the first christian congregations were held in houses. The establishment of a 'christian' religious institute, like the R.C. church, was centuries after that. The R.C. church is anything but christian.
EdjeBos 5 months ago
@EdjeBos that depends on what do you THINK the writers were, some educated men or working people. there is no historical evidence that lower class even knew how to write, moreover that they read greek literature on a daily basic so..
look, i'm not questioning you faith at all, you can belive in a flying spaghetti monster as far as i am concerned. but, please, don't be so arrogant to neglect the whole scientific theory just because you don't understand it and is contradict with your argument.
division247 5 months ago
hi!
i'd just like to know how on earth did you manage to create an educational videos and still miss the point of religion itself?!
i got the feeling you're a teist, and despite all of the evidence you presented and researched, still you won't except the fact that religions are just instruments of ruling. well planed, of course, but still..
it's not so perculiar that exact same simbols are found in every possible religion that exist.. they all came form the same one.
division247 5 months ago
@division247 I did not create any vid I posted. I just post what I want the world to know. There is a difference between organized religion and believing in (a) God. The God of the Bible hates symbolism and warnes for the users of symbols. Watch Where The Rabbit Hole Ends entirely, if you really want to learn about the forces of this world.
EdjeBos 5 months ago
@EdjeBos oi! i wasn't even mentioning organized religion. my point was..
you took couple of verses from the book written 2000 years ago, originally written on greek language, translated to latin then translated to english (or whatever language is your native) and claim that that verse is the same one Jesus or God said..
division247 5 months ago
@EdjeBos your assumption doesn't seems so plausible to me, even more because of the facts that Jesus spoke armenian and Bible was created by the man that weren't even born when Jesus died. from what source do you claim to know the word of God?
division247 5 months ago
@EdjeBos "Where The Rabbit Hole Ends".. that's was my point in 1st post.. the concept of an existence of some deity is just a very powerful weapon for enslavement of the mases, nothing more. interpretations of the same story, originated some 6000 years ago, can be endless and are always connected with geopolitical situation of the time of interpretation.
division247 5 months ago
@division247 "the concept of an existence of some deity is just a very powerful weapon for enslavement of the mases"
That doesn't mean there can not be a God or that the book is false. The book of Law could also be used for enslavement. That doesn't make the book bad, just the people using it. The history ánd accuracy of the Bible are amazing. Not to mention the prophecies fulfilled. The Bible ís the Word of the Living God.
EdjeBos 5 months ago
@EdjeBos i agree.. any book could be used in that purpose..
but, the version of the book you interpret isn't the same book you claim to come from the god's mouth.
todays english version of the bible couldn't possibly be the same as the original set of stories from witch the bible consist and to which you refer your arguments. it is simply an edited copy of an edited copy of an edited copy and so on... therefore..you cannot be sure that any of the verses are in fact the word of a god.
division247 5 months ago
@division247 "it is simply an edited copy of an edited copy of an edited copy and so on... " How do you know it is that simple? Do you have any idea how many original manuscripts there are? watch?v=NQrUQhcdwjI
And another thing: for some power to use this book as an enslavement-tool they would have needed total control of the copying worldwide. How do you think they did that? Who are 'they'? Impossible, imho.
EdjeBos 5 months ago
@EdjeBos well, i know the bible is an edited copy because the Jesus spoke armenian and original text of the bible was written in greek. you can find many problems in language translating, and the meaning of the text translated is always changed. the other thing is institution of the church, they really had the absolute control over the interpretation of the bible since they had political power over christian states, also they had complete control over education for more than 1500 years..
division247 5 months ago
@division247 Very poor argument. The gospels themselves are copies, because of the language-barrier? My native tongue is Dutch, but I have no problem at all speaking to you in English('copying' my thoughts to English..). Therefore, your 'many problems' are no problems at all. You talk about 'institution of the church' as 'they'. What institute? Absolute control?? As I said, impossible. Many translations were made without any church involved. Again, MANY original manuscripts as reference.
EdjeBos 5 months ago
wow.. very interesting video. actually i really dont know what to comment on your video. but it was really interesting to watch. thanks.
CryIngRaIn111 6 months ago
@CryIngRaIn111 You´re welcome! I needed to watch it several times to get a real grasp of what it is saying. The images from Saturn I had never seen before, so that was the first thing that blew me away. But the true meaning of this vid is that in the end it really is God vs Satan. The Bible warnes about these symbolisms and the religious institutes they represent. And to see the symbol of Saturn used in so many ways still, makes it beyond any doubt for me: the Bible is Truth! God bless.
EdjeBos 6 months ago
@EdjeBos How can we even believe in the bible?. These same organizations are responsible for writing, editing, and deciding which of the hundreds of christian texts floating around at the time should go in the bible. (The ones that were most believable and not too obvious in contradictions) If you say that God kept protected his word from corruption, then why couldn't he protect his church?
ibsd 6 months ago
@ibsd "If you say that God kept protected his word from corruption, then why couldn't he protect his church?"
That ís what I say. And it has everything to do with the free will He gave us, which you don't believe in. We humans are capable of choosing between right and wrong. We will be held accountable for our deeds. We have responsibility over our lives and that of the people around us. No free will: no accountability or justice. Mull this over a while.
EdjeBos 6 months ago
@EdjeBos I meant that God didn't keep his church protected from corruption. Eastern Orthodox, Protestant, and especially Catholic practice and teach non-biblical and pagan concepts.
ibsd 6 months ago
@ibsd I know. That's man's doing(free will). Take the R.C. church. They have had the time and the power to change the Bible as they saw fit to make it look like they were doing His Will. But today it is still obvious they make a mockery out of His Word, although they claim to believe in the God of the Bible. The Bible shows God is in control. Anyone(!) can see this church does everything God forbade by reading His Word. To this very day.
EdjeBos 6 months ago
What the heck is that a picture of in the last part of the video?
Genieroze 7 months ago
So whats your overall conclusion of all your videos?? And another question is why did you make it seem as if jesus was not real in videos 1-3, because you said jesus and the whole judeo christian theology was derived from ancient egyptian beliefs..
yungchieffer 7 months ago
....So, how does it feel to the the ONE PERSON on this planet who is not "brainwashed" by Satan/Jesus?
It's very interesting stuff, don't get me wrong...but don't you think IF Satan was so powerfull he wouldn't have to go to such great lengths to decieve people?
BTW the "Hand of Lucifer" looked like a horse head...Hell you could pretty much make it out to be ANYTHING. ;p
666xDevilmanx666 1 year ago
very very interesting.. I saw these videos 2 years ago.. from another user..
I look for these then I was glad i saw it today..
PhoneGlyph 1 year ago
@PhoneGlyph Yes, AnonymousTruther posted it under a name with 'Saturnial Cult' in it. It shook my world back then. I gave it this name because that's what I learned from this series ánd because there are a number of deceitful videos with that name, like the Zeitgeist version.
EdjeBos 1 year ago
@EdjeBos I would try to download these videos.. please keep a copy mr. Bos..so that in case the videos will be banned, there will be a copy xD/
PhoneGlyph 1 year ago
thank you
gorryman 1 year ago
@gorryman You are very much welcome!
EdjeBos 1 year ago