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  • These videos are great. I'm currently preparing for my black belt test (1st dan) after taking a few years off for college, so I've got to relearn all the forms again. My school follows the UWTA system, so there are some stylistic variations, but he does everything so cleanly that they're still excellent for learning.

  • Why is this kata so bouncy?

  • @matbroomfield. This style of TKD incorprates what is known as 'Sine Wave', which in essence starts with a downward movement, then rises and falls, upon which the full technique is executed. Google TKD sine wave. Other styles of TKD do not use Sine Wave, but incorporate more 'Hip twist' to increase the power. There is plus and minus arguments for both styles, but at the end of the day if you enjoy learning the style you are taught, who cares, just enjoy.

  • @trophy1999 "but at the end of the day if you enjoy learning the style you are taught, who cares"

    I could not disagree more. If you are learning martial arts as a form of aerobics, then your comment is true, but if you are training to defend yourself, it's VITAL that you critically assess whether or not your style does that for you.

    Thank you for your reply, but this appears to be a massive exaggeration of a moot principle because the energy is travelling in the wrong direction.

  • @matbroomfield Good observational point about self defence. Patterns or katas, cannot be simply used as the only basis for self defence, they are mearly a training tool to master techniques against an amaginary aponante and to also assess a students progress through the grading sylabus. Sparring and actual self defence training against a real person is the only way to really aquire the skills nessassary to defend one's self.

  • @trophy1999 Respectfully, I would suggest that katas were originally learned SOLELY for their self defence applications. Competition and gradings have robbed them of their true function, forcing practitioners to make them LOOK right, instead of deriving from them the combative lessons that were originally encoded. In fairness, as kata were "bolted on" to the TKD syllabus, I suspect that they were never properly valued in that style. Not hating - just stating.

  • I've just started learning this pattern and it looks like it's going to be a difficult one to learn. All credit to the guy in this video for showing us how it's done!

  • @4agzeddy Hi, in my opionion this pattern is one of the most challanging patterns in the 1st Dan sylabus, for the simple reason that the pattern is basic in its techniques compared to Gwang Gae and Gae Beak. There is not twists and turns, high turning kicks to distract the observer. Therefore any faults in the execution of this pattern are easly identified. I hated this pattern when i first started learning it, I mastered it, and now love it. Have fun.

  • This guy is awesome!! i have just learnt Dan-Gun and have a long way to go till this.... what an acheivement it would be if i could be as good as him!!

  • @bumble0709 every great journey starts with a small step,believe in your self !Tae Kwon

  • Just took black belt today. If I pass I look forward to learning this. Great pattern demonstration!

  • First Class TKD sine-wave videos. recommended to anyone learning sine-wave style of TKD. Well Done.

  • @trophy1999 what does sine wave mean in this context?

  • @DannyCTKD thanks

  • cant wait to learn this pattern

  • MUY BUENO, PERO EL SEXTO Y SÉPTIMO MOVIMIENTO ES "DOBLE GOLPE" (TÚ LO HACES COMO DEFENSA)

  • Is the kick in this a pressing kick. I thought you were supposed to bend your standing leg otherwise it's a low side kick. Can someone tell me! I'm a first degree at the moment

  • @noobsmustdie453 It is a low kick, and I do think you're ment to turn the standing foot. I'm sure if why it's done in this.

  • @noobsmustdie453 You are correct

  • Tnx

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  • querido amigo ... los movimientos 6 y 7 son ataques con puño hacia una patada se levanta el codo para ejecutar un golpe descendente con el puño ! hay que aprender mas !

  • i like that breathing style it suits the the kata!

  • You people are sooo dumb its a nice awesome cool form i dont know why anyone says its boring slow fast ugly and ugly dont make sense uhh people make me SOOO MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Narutopro3 It's called "wave", which seems to be ruling the current execution of tuls. It illustrates the natural movement of the body. Admittedly, I personally don't like it either, it's just the way it is right now.

    @ HollywoodKendrick That's the difference between tuls and hyongs. Hyongs are patterns that are executed as if you were in a real fight. Many schools adopt this as: "fast". A result is that most techniques aren't done properly. That's where tuls come in..

  • I do Tae Kwon Do and I got my new belt and i have to do this form but since i found it on Youutube i know it lol thx who ever put it on youtube lol

  • You aren't suppose to bounce. You are supposed to keep your hip height the same throughtout the form.

  • what is this song

  • 0:14 my instructor keeps telling us to do that part fast

  • This is a performance... Sabum nim Jaroslaw Suska is a good example to us, It shows how a pattern must be applicated, he knows every movement and makes an unified and harmonious tul.

    "A Taekwon-Do pattern is a choreographed sequence of fundamental movements in an imaginary fight against one attacker or several. The execution of the movements requires the application of the Theory of Power. Correct breathing generates internal energy, which increases power."

  • I know a sport is much like this one, it's called ballet.

  • @yosefes Sure.

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  • WTF is he doing

  • @Eunlee0909 Don't watch if you don't know.

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  • @guilla90 yes it is ITF

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  • @Eunlee0909 He is doing a black belt pattern called Po Eun, in a martial art called Taekwondo. He is demonstrating the original form of Po Eun, as taught by the founder of taekwondo, General Choi Hong Hi. There are many different types of taekwondo nowadays, but the original one is still taught under the ITF schools.

  • en una parte hace la fusion! :D

  • my instructor always hated po eun. its just short and stupid. and honestly, i hate it too. its just so damn ugly! :(

  • @Raitsogen Pity, you're missing the point of the pattern. It demonstrates fast AND slow movements, in harmony. You need to have good control of your breathing to get this one right. A whole group of belt belts doing Po Eun is very inspiring to watch.

  • @321noone i still hate it. its still ugly. no offense. juche is inspiring. choong moo is inspiring. even kwang gae. not so much po eun.

  • such a cool pattern

  • Well done for making the series of videos, it's a great source for me as this is the last pattern I need to learn for my 1st Dan TKD before taking my grading.

  • btw, just a tip the part when u do the multiple block you've gotta do it really fast

  • @100jokes really fast??not sure what really fast is by your standard but they are performed perfectly at the correct speed in this video mate. By the international instructors standard i mean. In the latest edition of the ITF encyclopedia (written by Gen Choi) there is no mention of doing any thing really fast in this pattern :)

  • For the ITF standards, this is very, very good, one of the best executed Po-Eun i have ever seen. I am a 3rd degree ITF black belt and 1st Dan WTF and Chang Moo Kwan black belt, i know there are different standards. Just one note, Gen Choi revised this form until he died, this is the real thing, blending of Karate Shotokan and taekkyon at its finest. The movements are relaxed yet firm on their conclusion, the swinging movent (power theory) taken from taekkyon. Nice job

  • These videos are an excellent reference point for practitioners learning their new patterns. I find them invaluable. Thanks for posting!

  • way to tell em jets. By the way, nice pattern. i notice some differences from the style i practice, but I wouldnt say they're entirely bad.

  • I really like this video.

  • Nice

  • so stoked on po-eun, my new pattern. well, one of them

  • This is my favorite pattern to perform.

  • @silentthunder013 I don't really like it, it doesn't really do much for me. I actually prefer Kwang Gae to this or Eu am.

  • cosmo101 el unico (no) ingles xDDD pero bldo enserio,5 dan aciendo el de 1 pero al principio cuando ta en chumbi le falta el 245 con miembros superiores :/

  • No le da importancia a las posiciones observá los fu-gul éste hombre es quinto dan está haciendo una forma de 1º

  • His technique is extremely good. I would like to remind those who think that the sine wave motion looks funny of something. Katas look rediculas to me in part because the head stays so level. However, I don't think it would be appropriate for me to say that someone's form is horrible if I have not mastered the art myself and understand what I I'm watching.

  • yeah... it looks like you're trying to do the sine wave in the form, but that just makes it look weird and doesn't really make it look any more powerful. You also look very static. I find it looks much better when being more fluid, like how kungfu practitioners are when they do their forms. I know that removing the sine wave makes it less like Gen. Choi intended and more towards a karate-like form, but remember, Taekwondo has parts of its foundation in karate.

  • @seouljae tae kwon dos patterns were not intended to be like karate. to some one who does something different of course this looks silly, they do a different thing. just like i would think karate looks silly. "there is no right or wrong way, only the way that works for you."

  • @mrrightnow9 well, first of all, you make it sound like I do a different art than Taekwondo, so to clear up any confusion I am in Taekwondo. Second, I'm just giving my critique of the form using my own experiences with Po-Eun and what I have seen with other practitioners who have demonstrated it.

  • we would kick you out of our school if you could NOT STOP BOBING UP AND DOWN when doing kata move your hips for power not your upper torso!

  • He's not doing kata. He's doing tul. That'd be because he's demonstrating TKD, which moves with a sine-wave motion, & not karate, which glides in straight lines.

  • I came here to say the same thing but you beat me to it. Looks like he's doing po-eun in a boat. Your head should stay nearly perfectly level unless a specific part required you to change elevations. This is really very very poor form.

  • This guy is the best ITF patterns practitioner there is and ever was, i'd love to see you win what he has.

  • @thejpfan This isn't karate, so it isn't kata. I admit the sine wave motion is kind of annoying, but if that is how he was taught, then I say let him do the motion if he chooses. If you want to criticize someone, criticize the teacher, not the student.

  • @thejpfan its not a kata, because this is not karate, its ITF taekwon-do. Taekwon-do uses sinewave, if you dont like it, you can just fuck right off

  • what is the move at 0:19 for?

  • I was always taught it's catching a staff, but that never made any sense. The attacker would have to be holding the staff upright & smacking you with it as if he were opening a door in your face.

  • yeah

    what about the move before that one around 0:18 ? where he touches his wrist?

  • I never did get a good explanation for that one. It was in the pattern, so we just shrugged & did it.

  • ok lol

  • @mkrawec On the u-shaped grasp, we were taught that you're not grabbing a staff that's striking, but grabbing the staff between strikes. If you watch someone attack with a staff, it often comes to vertical between attacks. That also explains why you have to cover ground with the sitting stance (or fixed stance in Joon-gun): the opponent is not stepping toward you in attack.

  • @AnummaBrooke (Whoops: got stance wrong for Po Eun; sorry, it's niun sogi.)

  • @AnummaBrooke - Now that makes much more sense than grabbing the staff while the opponent's swinging it.

  • @Guydabest It is a a trap and strike at the same time much like the move at 0.27 which is a trap and strike to the knee. Imagine performing a hammer fist strike to the side of the knee (or any target) whilst pushing the target from the other side.

  • learning this....it jumbles my brains

  • That looks pretty funky, I don't do TKD but might try to learn that just for fun lol

  • This form was always so much fun to perform. Maybe my favorite.

  • I should tape my instructor doing this in 24 seconds. You'll like it even more. ;)

  • で、分解はどうやるの?

  • This pattern is performed by a first degree blackbelt (1st Dan) to achieve their next degree (2nd Dan)

  • yeah.. im doing that with ge-baek and kwang-gae for my 2nd dan in march.

  • @Trukstarz That depends on the instructor.

  • what belt is this pattern for?

  • el mejor tuul lejos

  • he is doing it the wrong speed and chambering for almost the entire pattern. who the hell taught this to him? if he is a 5th degree he needs to start over.

  • Perhaps YOU can post your videos on the "Correct" way to do them.......

  • amen!

  • Dude that music is awesome. Would anyone know what it is?

  • Rubbish!!! He ends the connected moves in the wrong place and his arms go up stupidly when doing the low section side fist.

  • It is far too bouncy. He'll throw out his knees. 10/10 on intensity though :)

  • favorite tull

  • beautifull!

  • hey asshole grow up

  • i always read a head to black belt patterns in my tkd hand book and this is probbaly the only pattern the gose side to side for the whole pattern

  • I like the Fast bit From 0:11 : )

  • he said po-eun -_-

    that's how po-eun is said

    P'oh - oon

  • No it isn't! It's pronounced P'oh-wonn!

  • 포은 - p'o eun - po-oon

    은 eun is not wonn

    source: i've studied korean for many years

    ^^

  • u might have studied it, but im korean. ALtho u are definitely right its Po- eun. ive never heard of Po won...that sounds retarded

  • 미국사람 아니고 한국사람?

  • 한국, y?

  • @smallgingerskater If anything but po oon its Po un not p'oh wonn

  • mój ulubiony układ w mistrzowskim wykonaniu !

  • No matter how many times I watch this, or any of your poom-se. I just imagine how good I could be. -To be as good as you.

  • He's so focused on his opponents, that I could sneak behind him and kick him. "And it doesn't hurt that it's prearranged" Yay 36 movements, wish Me luck.

    Great job in this poom-se, but You always do great.

  • WTF? Its a pattern why would you rush it?

  • hes joking lol

  • not bad

  • Amazing!!!

    Thank you very much for this video!!!!

  • For all you critics out there find another video to watch! This guy is cool enough to take the time to post his patterns on here for us to see. They are his paterns from his style taught by his teacher. If you are using these as references then you should know if your style has any slight variations or not. Stop with the negativity. Shame on you who practice tkd like myself. Go back to your tennants and learn them again....The 1st is "courtesy". Jaroslaw, thank you, Randy

  • @jetskirandyx Years ago, we had a great training seminar with this guy in Newcastle.  He worked us so hard that the sweat was making the colour from people's belts run into their doboks.

  • @jetskirandyx It's 'Tenets' but excellently said!

  • His technique is very good... but im just wondering what the use of 0:36-0:42 is. ??? it just seems sort of like, dancing.

  • actually,the move was offend and defend, in a fast motion....

  • two separate punches downward to strike a kicking leg with reaction hand moving in opposite direction for power, twin inner forearm block blocking attacks from both sides, pulling the fist into the hip doing an elbow strike to the back with reaction hand on forefist, punching to the front with reaction hand placed on arm, elbow strike to the other side with reaction hand placed, double punch to the side; one hitting a nearer opponent and one slightly further away, inward low block with...

  • reaction hand slapping wrist

  • this was always one of my favorite forms to perform. he did it very well.

  • this is great!

  • It's embarrassing seeing some of the negative comments on this video. Do these people think anyone takes them seriously. For any negative posters, please post a video of you showing us how it should be done.

    This is an excellent example of this pattern, for an equally excellent but different version, do a search for Ray Smeathers Po-Eun.

    Do bot compare the 2 styles, they are meant to be different.

    Reposted due to unfair spam reporting, seems like I must have upset the negative posters.

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  • hahahahahahah your funnyy

  • Agreed fully!

  • he did it perfect i bett you cant even vome up with one thing he did wrong :p

  • he´s a world champion, you know? maybe the best in pattern

  • I think this is excellent, iam a 1st dan and will find watching these patterns very useful ready to take the next test.

  • hjh

  • i'm a first dan at the moment, so this video has helped me learn pe-eun, since i can watch it halfway through to get the mirror image for the first half and the start until the middle for the mirror image of the second part :) thanks!

  • I can do dan-gun but i cant see myselff doing this....

  • i learned the old old version. no sine wave. and some of the hand motions are different. my master is first generation american. very nice however.

  • good videa, helped me remember a lot, forgot my patterns after i entered the military

  • It's been quite a while, yes, but why should it be chanced?

    Even if the styles chance, the world doesn't.

    Or at least it hasn't since General's time.

    The idea of tkd, which is summarised in tkd oath, is IMHO rather respectable.

    (Or well, the last two sentences.)

    I think, even if one has no further values, that is something worth following.

  • The basic idea of tkd is to not "kick one's ass", we're supposed to avoid fights..

    That's said in the taekwon-do oath too, u know.

    And why would u kick his ass because u didn't know what is the ensyclopedia of tkd?

  • exactly thats wat i was going to say next

    - thanx bro

  • in my opinion, and this wat we r taught at our school, the hand movements should be alot faster

  • i'd like to see YOU do faster. his speed was extreme.

  • u call THAT extreme?!?! u must be fuckin BLIND then!

  • ok for u guys who dont know, the patterns are taken from the encyclopedia of taekwon do and it is said that in po- eun the movements are suppose to be slow motion with a long breathe many people dont read the encyclopedia and thats y they do their patterns a certain way dont get me wrong he good but the pattern specifically calls for slow motion

  • ok wat in the name of hell is the encyclopedia of tae kwon do?! u probaly dont even do tkd

  • sry i dont take taekwon do thats y i know about the fucking encyclopedia!!!(sarcasm) gereral choi hong hi created the EOTKD in order to teach how each movement is be done with how many degrees, to what motion, etc. FYI i do take TKD (ITF) location: G street, Philadelphia PA

  • so ur basically giving me ur address so i can come kick ur ass rite? dont worry im comin

  • Don't forget the encyclopedia was written quite a while ago and the style's always developing

  • thats true but since the encyclopedia is written by general choi the creator it shouldnt be changed just lik the Bible

  • Excellent Performance, but the background music is not related at all with Taekwondo, it would be better without any music.

  • The best pattern!

  • hear hear!

  • Sorry about the double post. There might be some truth to this sign wave thing, although I think it should be a brachystochrone shape, but I would get very annoyed if I was told I were doing a sine wave instead of a brachystochrone (they are similar). If you start a strike high and finish on the horizontal, then you are accelerating upwards towards the end of your strike, giving you more purchase on the ground and more power. Pity that this makes you less stable before the strike.

  • Ahaha, I'm trying to at least learn the patterns I should know before getting back into tae kwon do, and happened to pick this guy to watch for do-san, then i opened the rest in order, but at about the same time, so it sounded like a whole bunch of clicks :P. Man, I have a lot of training to do if I'm ever gonna even compare to this guy... *disappears, off to train*

  • I don't think the sine wave gives you power. If anything it telegraphs your movements. Take a look at a good Okinawan stylist performing Niahanchi. The concept of Po-Eun is the same as Niahanchi.....POWER! Proper use of hips, tension, focus, breathing, and control result in powerful techniques and a powerful form.

  • i just watched niahanchi shodan, you know what i saw? sinewave:O:O !!!! there is a little of it you almost cant see it, i never thought to see sinewave in karate but they automaickly use it withouy even knowing it, and thats another point that choi hong hi produce in tkd that is better then how its used in karate

  • This looks different then the way I was taught and it was a 5th degree that taught me this form too.

  • diff places diff teachings

  • This shouldn't be a discussion about whether the sine wave is good/not. It should be a discussion about the quality of the form and his technique ( the sine wave is only a small part ). He is obviously very very good and has excellent technique, and I'm sure he still would have excellent technique if he wasn't doing the sine wave.

    My school doesn't do the sine wave, so honestly it looks somewhat strange at first, but it quickly becomes obvious how good this guy is, sine wave or not.

  • sine wave gives you power! without sine wave = not so much power

  • Just commenting to say, awesome horse riding stances (shame the up and down makes them look a bit peculiar) :)

  • In tae kwon do, it is called a sitting stance, or annun sogi. The up and down motion is a way of generating extra power thru sine waves. We use sine waves a lot in tae kwon do. I am learning this tul, now. Very tricky.

  • I know, but i consider it the same as many here (breaking the ground connection) and to me it's just adding your weight on a downwards motion, I could understand it in sparring but it looks bad in a kata form (to me) :) x

  • The hyung was technically good but, sinewave is garbage. You constantly break your connection to your power source which is the ground.With the older Karate style foot you don't have this problem.

  • I wouldn't call it 'garbage' but I agree with you with the power break.

  • this isnt karate, its tae kwon do

  • The problem with sine wave is the fact that gravity does very little to add power to technique. I prefer the older method because I dont break my connection with the ground. In this way power travels where directed.

  • well, as i understand the reason behind the sine wave is that it provides more power to the form. i agree with you that technique is very important and should not be left behind. what i argue is the need to include the sine wave (as a technique) in order to get more power.

  • The guy in the links you are refering to, is clearly a verry good Kata-performer!! It's the same way in every style, some has less power, other has great power. Some are great, others are ok:) If you search for these pattern on youtube, you will find very pore examples, and great performers:)

  • The sinewave has allso been proven more powerfull scinentifically, if you master it correctly though :)

  • do you use sinewave when sparring?

  • the traditional way is similar to karate forms, i dont have videos showing the old way but you can compare this karate /watch?v=L8ZhBSiBIv0 with his dan-gun /watch?v=nCkRKrSFi70 (both are yellow belt forms in their own style) then let me know which one looks more powerful.

  • The patterns aren't always meant to express power. TKD is more about technique than power. With technique comes power is what I've been taught.

  • This pattern is surprisingly easy to learn. It took my about an hour to learn, but perfecting it is proving quite difficault!

  • This whole form is supposed to be done in like 20 seconds. He looks kind of bouncy in his stances and the kicks are low.

  • This is the way the pattern shal be performed as in ITF Taekwon-Do. Made by the late General Choi Hong Hi 9.Dan.

    The kick is a pressing kick, and supposed to be low, to block a incomming frontkick.

  • 20 seconds? Never heard that before. And the kicks are meant to be low.

  • that's sine wave... i don't like it, i practice the traditional way of forms. sine way supposely gives more power because of gravity, if we get into mathematics i think it makes you loose momentum and it makes us slower. notice how slow they move from one step to the next when they go up. in the old way you have to move your feet faster without stoping in the middle.