If the pilots had speeded up the plane instead of slowing it down, the plane would have flown and landed. One more instance of how following the rules can get your killed.
Cutting corners to save money at the expense of safety? What part of this do you NOT understand? It's the way humans do business. While telling you they are concerned about safety (just to get you on the "things"), but the real concern is always and always will be the MONEY. Remember that the next time you fly.
when i saw this vid so much people died i mean just a flaw could take so many lives i nearly cried i know im kind of a wimp when it comes to these things but life is precious because it can be take from you at the most unexpected time
::confused:: I've seen about 50 episodes of ACI and SFD, each one claiming it's the "worst crash in aviation history". When every episode says it, the statement loses its affect. :/
@PersianvBTheme Usually they'll say.. "Worst in [this country's] history", or sometimes "the worst accident involving a [specific manufacturer]" - but too many times they generalize it...then keeping in mind all these episodes were made within a couple years, they can't say "at the time of airing".. I dunno..I hear "worst in history" and I get all excited...
airline companies are out to make money air disasters are just a glitch in making that money and like all companies they are not to blame, Politicians are the same get use to it there will be more plane crashes with the same results in the future. Dated this day 30/12/2011 at 10.26pm.
The training manual is wrong?!?!?! Who is stupid enough to fuck up a training manual? Those things need to be filled with the right information for EVERY situation!
When I flew on planes as a kid, I sometimes worried about crashing. My Dad assured me correctly that airplanes are the safest way to travel. Thing is, in a plane crash - everyone dies. In a car crash, there are fatalities but also many survivors and those not even injured.
So AA gets fined $500,000 by the US Gov, then their insurance pays them the cost of the plane plus $25 million. So that crash resulted in a gross gain of $24.5 million. I wonder how much each victim's family got.
@jaysfan19 If you look up ACI Hijacked, in 2003 (?) a crazy Fed Ex flight engineer tried to hijack a DC-10 and crash if for insurance money for his family.
The 3 men flying the plane received horrible head injures in his attack, but fought him off physically AND using the aircraft to keep him off balance. They almost put the DC-10 upside down and broke the sound barrier too. The men had fighter jet experience and did things you don't normally do to DC-10's.
Hey idiot - the problem was American Airlines maintenance procedure where the lazy ass mechanics used a forklift and didn't disconnect the engine from the pylon - they disconnected and reconnected the entire assembly, then went home leaving the assembly on the forklift, which damaged the pylon bracket.. They didn't follow M.D.'s written procedure. Hey, lets see if you can use more foul language to express your uneducated opinion...
@Th3R3alPr0 dude, it wasn't McDonnel Douglas' fault. it was American Airlines' fault. they took a shortcut in reattaching the engine during maintenance, and that made the engine fall off on takeoff
@Th3R3alPr0 Believe it or not, McDonnell Douglas is the innocent party when it comes to the engine falling off. AA asked for input on their forklift procedure from MD. MD told AA they didn't like it, and to remove the engine/pylon as recommended. AA did it their way anyway.
AA failed, and profitted from it. The FAA failed because they didn't have proper mx reporting procedures. MD failed with emergency procedures and system design not related to the pylon mounts. Team effort...
@Th3R3alPr0 its not mcdonnell douglas fault, its cutting corners by american airlines, if theyd have properly disconnected the engine pylon, this wouldnt have happened
@MrDevilstreaker (1/2) No, not at all strange, according to Christian theology. We don't believe that God ever promised to make life "easy" down here, or to prevent tragedy on the earth, or to protect every single person from every single danger. That's not a Christian belief, and is never preached or taught in Scripture. What we believe is that suffering and disaster are absolutely unavoidable, and that faith in God can't save you from earthly suffering. Regardless of what happens to us here...
@MrDevilstreaker (2/2) what matters is that God is there with us whether we're suffering or not, and more than anything else, faith in Christ is what takes us to Heaven instead of to Hell after we die. Christianity does not teach that God's going to make life on earth easy. What it teaches is that our life here is the blink of an eye compared to eternity, and that God's protection and salvation for all eternity is more important than "here and now" pain, and even worth suffering here to ensure.
@bustedbenz I see so god basically sits in heaven or with us here, and millions of innocent babies who drown, get electrocuted -completely innocently - will die (even though god can prevent it) - because suffering go hand in hand. Have I got this correct? Because your god says so, he wont lift a finger to help a baby being burned alive in a building, and have his christian / or non christian parents suffer for all their lives? All ppl not introduced to god will burn forever in hell?
@MrDevilstreaker I'm not going to make a point-by-point reply, because there's nothing I can do in Youtube comments to persuade you to listen to something you've already decided to dispute. It amazes me that a person can have this kind of animosity toward Christianity with such faulty facts about it. You're right about Hell being forever, but many/most Christians believe that those who never had a chance to know God are pardoned. The lost are those who *knowingly* denied Him.
@bustedbenz No. You wont make a point by point reply - because you can't without sounding ridiculous. Where are my faulty facts? Dont strawman the argument. Look you're too close minded to get past the brainwashing. Its just so sad to see my fellow man being so utterly deluded with his thinking to think there is a celstial dictator who will burn people in hell - and yet ... he loves you. I genuinely feel sorry for people like your - the real "lost"
@MrDevilstreaker (1/11) Well in the first place, you can't legitimately attack Christianity as "brainwashing" and delusion, if you don't even look at what Christianity actually teaches and why it does so. If you refuse to make an accurate study of Christian doctrine, then you cannot argue against it. If you likewise refuse to make an accurate study of the accurate historicity of the Bible, then the deity of Christ and the teachings of Christ can't mean anything to you.
@MrDevilstreaker (2/11) There is no doctrinal, logical, or moral difficulty with reconciling the punishment of Hell with the love of God, but it can only be understood if you are willing to accept God's word on the subject, and if you are willing to understand WHY things are the way that they are. Faulty fact number one was, as I already replied, your belief that Christianity teaches that those who "were never introduced to God" are condemned.
@MrDevilstreaker (3/11) Problem #2 is your assumption that a good, loving God is morally obliged to save all lives and alleviate all suffering. Not only is this not a Christian belief, but I don't even accept it as a reasonable hypothesis of what God "should" do, REGARDLESS of religion.
@bustedbenz So by your very statement, your "loving god" would condemn inncocent peopel to burn in hell, if they dont believe in him. What a loving god.
@MrDevilstreaker They aren't "innocent" if they didn't believe. Failure to believe is, in and of itself, a sufficient crime to warrant eternal punishment. Also, other than the smallest of infants, no one on this earth can live a PERFECT life with zero sins, except for Christ. That was God's requirement, all along. Even one tiny sin merits punishment.
@MrDevilstreaker (4/11) The other "fact" that you really have misunderstood about Christianity is your statement that God burns people in Hell. God does not CHOOSE to send people there. Again, without a Biblical understanding of the details of this subject, this is a moot discussion. God is not actively choosing to reward some people and punish others. God has said that EVERYONE, universally, save no one, *deserves* the punishment. God is loving but also fair.
@bustedbenz God made hell. He made the rules by which a person goes to hell or not correct? Ergo he condems some people to burn in hell for all eternity. What a great loving god.
@MrDevilstreaker Partially true but not completely. He made the rules, but told the people about them upfront. The people (using free will) chose to disobey Him, and in doing so, condemned themselves. God created it as a place to hold Satan and the demons, but it was the humans' own fault that they didn't obey Him in the beginning. It's a double act of love. He loved by offering them a chance to obey, and loved again by offering them forgiveness for failing to, if they'd accept.
@bustedbenz Ridiculous. Its like a mafia boss holding a gun to my head saying "you are going to kill yourself if you dont follow my orders... dont kill yourself man! Obey me!" Of course he is the one who pulls the trigger. He made the rules upfront knowing in advance that some people will use their "free will" (although there is a lot of scientific debate that free will actually exists) to question him. He tortures people for eternity for "not believing in him" ? You are so deluded
@MrDevilstreaker (5/11) This fairness means (for reasons that, again, I must refer to Scripture to explain) that everyone deserves to suffer eternally after death. This is the fairness and justness of God. The LOVE of God is found in that He did freely offer the deep sacrifice of his own perfect Son, who sacrificed Himself to save US. We don't deserve it, we haven't earned it -- and yet in love, God has offered it with only the stipulation that we have to accept it.
@bustedbenz you are relying on the weird made up stories in old scripture fairy tales, and treating them as fact. God didnt really sacrifice his son now did he? He died on the cross as thousands of others did - with the bonus of being "resurected" and living forever as ultimate ruler. Shit I would go through the same thing if I had that power. How do you believe this shit ? Brain washed severely
@MrDevilstreaker No. I am treating them as fact because legitimate, fair, well-practiced science has established them firmly and irrefutably as fact. God did indeed make that sacrifice -- Christ himself suffered in Hell for three days BEFORE being resurrected, and paid the debt that we owed while doing so.
@MrDevilstreaker (6/11) God doesn't send people to Hell. People send people to Hell, by refusing to ask God to save them from it. You also seem to be stating that babies and the "innocent" are somehow more tragic victims or more worthy of being saved from fires than perhaps the less "innocent". This is also not a Christian ethic. The fact that parents suffer at the death of a child has absolutely nothing to do with an argument about the existence or nonexistence of God.
@MrDevilstreaker (7/11) The largest issue at hand, though, is the fact that human logic, human morality, human ethics -- none of these are adequate tools for use in the determination of the character and/or existence of God. It isn't a reasonable proposition to say that "I have a problem with a loving God performing this action, and therefore I can conclude that my definition of love is true, and that because this action wasn't loving by my standards, God does not exist/love."
@bustedbenz Right - so we cant use our brains - we just have to accept this "mysterious" being as a perfect god. You get this from ridiculous bronze age illiterate desert dwelling scribes. Wake up - you are deluded!
@MrDevilstreaker (8/11) The bottom line of the discussion is that *IF* Christianity is correct, then God does exist, Heaven and Hell do exist, and the souls of the dead spend eternity in one or the other of those places. The belief in these facts is formulated because the Bible teaches them. It is *reasonable* to trust the Bible to provide this information, not because our parents and grandparents did so, but because there is good scientific evidence to believe the Bible.
@bustedbenz WHAT scientific, peer reviewed evidence of agod are you talking about ? You foolish man! That verbal bullshit leaking out of your mouth is stinking up the room! Gosh how did people get so deluded! Listen to yourself you actually sound mad!
@MrDevilstreaker At least my arguments are about the facts. Resorting to ad hominem attacks when you can't actually defend the subject itself anymore pretty much means the debate is over. Which, by the way, this one is. I've made a good-faith offer to provide you with reading materials and resources to study this out and see if you still believe what you believe, and if you'd rather stick your head in the sand and ignore it, it's fine with me.
@MrDevilstreaker (9/11) First of all, we know that the Bible as we read it today is accurate in the sense that we are reading today what the original authors intended, without corruption. We know this by the legitimate science of textual comparison and analysis of manuscripts. The other part of the proof is that not only do we know that we are reading accurately recorded documents, but we also know that those documents can *reasonably* be believed as eye-witness history.
@MrDevilstreaker (10/11) Many branches of science including archaeology support that conclusion. If you actually want to study this, I can provide several good references. Bottom line, though, is that we know that the Bible is an accurately preserved recording of actually occurring events. Some of those events included Jesus Christ, walking the earth, and doing miracles that PROVED beyond all doubt, to the people who saw Him, that He was God.
@MrDevilstreaker (11/11) Christ proved that He was God to eye witnesses, who recorded those facts for future generations to observe. Because we know that we are reading accurate accounts, the *unavoidable* conclusion is that because those historical people saw God walking the earth, we have to believe that He did so, and that what He said was true. That's really all there is to say. These aren't my opinions; these are facts. I will be glad to provide sources for you to consider.
@bustedbenz Eye witnesses ? People that long ago believed anything! People TODAY will tell you that god appears in toast! Imagein what they believed back then! That aint evidence, you cant rely on that ! You cannot be this gullible! We DONT know they are accurate accounts! Where the hell does that come from?! We *have to believe * I see you write? Oh man you didnt waste all that time writing this crap did you - please tell me you're joking. There is no solid evidence here at all!
@MrDevilstreaker People today will believe anything too. First, accounts of Biblical events and persons are substantiated by third party sources from the same period, even by those individuals who would prefer to have denied Christ. Also, the Bible has accurately placed artifacts, civilizations, and people accurately, many times throughout modern history, in spite of skepticism. If *your* mind is as open as you desire mine to be, then read "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel.
@bustedbenz You dont think I've read that trash? His tired arguments about transitional forms? How many times to scientists have to keep educating morons like Strobel who put their fingers in there ears when presented with mountains of mutually corroborating evidence (Real evidence that is peer reviewed unlike the bible). He is also "shocked" about species that are found in different time zones, that are very similar- Very novice evolution critic. Believe what you want
@MrDevilstreaker I will. I believe that the theory of evolution, in its entirely, is a very reasonable explanation for how species developed. I also fully endorse the "Big Bang" theory to explain the creation of the universe, and I believe that the Earth is 4.5x billion years old; whatever the geologists say the number is now.
@bustedbenz Great! And I will believe in a fairy in the sky who has a huge palace full of angels with wings, where people who died get brought back to life- even pedophiles who do death bed conversions - and a huge hot hell of lava waiting for good people who dont know god- to be sent to for all eternity. Not to mention the entire planet coming from Adam and Eve who had 2 sons - yet were able to screw and produce the rest of the worlds people, burning bushes, talking snakes - great!
@MrDevilstreaker Look. I see you have Downs syndrome or something fucked up during your birth, so I guess I shouldnt really call you ugly - I mean I guess someone can't really blame mother nature for her - unfortunate - err .. "Gift"... But hey .. the main thing to understand - is that you're special. You really are. There are programs out there that can help you achieve things like - washing yourself, ironing clothes things that need motor skill (That might be difficult for you). Good luck!
@bustedbenz I've read Strobel's work. His sources are biased and his evidence fails to meet a reasonable standard. Reliable proof of supernatural events is nonexistent. The closest anyone came to corroborating contemporary Biblical accounts is at least 20 years after the supposed date of Jesus' death. The Bible itself wasn't even put together until around 300AD by the Council of Nicea and some of the books have been shown to be just restructured combinations of other books.
@MrDevilstreaker It's hard to give an actually good explanation in 500 characters -- I don't mean to imply that God doesn't care at all about tragedies in human lives. He very much does care about them. The point I was trying to make is that though He cares about those things, He never promised to prevent them. Yes, God as an all-powerful being could prevent these things if He chose, but we have to trust that He has a plan even if we don't know it.Some believe that Satan causes tragedy, not God.
Its was American Airlines fault, yet MDC tock most of the finicial loses, absolute bullshit, especailly considering that JAL to the fall for Boering after flight 123 which crashed causing 500+ deaths because Boeing did improper matanience.
A friend of mine who used to travel extensively for work said he wouldn't fly on a DC-10. He'd reschedule his reservations rather than get on what he called a "death chamber 10"
This terrible plane crash happened 32 years ago today. There is an article about it in the Daily Herald regarding a memorial that is supposed to be dedicated in the fall in Des Plaines.
Why was there no flight engineer aboard that flight? And why does the narrator keep saying "single plane accident"? There hasn't been a deadlier collision in the US, has there?
Thanks for the videos. Be the way, do you have the episode with the Ethiopian airline crash in the Indian ocean off the coast of east Africa? I really enjoyed that one when I watched, so if you could upload I am sure a lot of people will like it. Thank you.
Life is an bitch,and you die.
Thumbs if you agree.
PLAYTOY26 1 day ago
I never fly...no way.
Handiman544 1 day ago
If the pilots had speeded up the plane instead of slowing it down, the plane would have flown and landed. One more instance of how following the rules can get your killed.
Handiman544 1 day ago
Cutting corners to save money at the expense of safety? What part of this do you NOT understand? It's the way humans do business. While telling you they are concerned about safety (just to get you on the "things"), but the real concern is always and always will be the MONEY. Remember that the next time you fly.
Handiman544 1 day ago
when i saw this vid so much people died i mean just a flaw could take so many lives i nearly cried i know im kind of a wimp when it comes to these things but life is precious because it can be take from you at the most unexpected time
digitalgoodamv2 3 days ago
I hate these frickin ADS!!! ;(
coolguyawesome11 6 days ago
Disregarding safety and cutting corners to save money and time. It's disgusting!
timtam2400 2 weeks ago
We can finally reveal. What about the lawsuit against the AA mechanics in Tulsa?
OnlineAutoAuctions 3 weeks ago
Busiest airport? I think he means Atlanta ... O'hare is the "largest" airport in the world. No biggie.
WarEagleReedle 3 weeks ago
@WarEagleReedle Used to be the busiest.
pete5668 1 week ago
Very good show, watched this all the time when I was younger. Got an A+ on a Book Report I did with this episode as a reference in the 4th grade!
TheResidentsim 3 weeks ago
@TheResidentsim I used to write about these episodes in my 1st Grade Journal!
GamerFan73 1 week ago
reduce speed to v2 killed it
usernameofutube 3 weeks ago
Shit... there should be a cameras or at least side view mirrors pointed back at the damn wings someday...
cloner8o 4 weeks ago
@cloner8o ...LOL.. I was thinking the same thing. Some kind of reflectors that act as side views with an attachment for airplane blind spots...lol
daretosayit 3 weeks ago
::confused:: I've seen about 50 episodes of ACI and SFD, each one claiming it's the "worst crash in aviation history". When every episode says it, the statement loses its affect. :/
PrisonFaces 1 month ago
@PrisonFaces Maybe it refers to a specific location, type of aircraft or range of time.
Then it says its the worst in that range.
PersianvBTheme 1 month ago
@PersianvBTheme Usually they'll say.. "Worst in [this country's] history", or sometimes "the worst accident involving a [specific manufacturer]" - but too many times they generalize it...then keeping in mind all these episodes were made within a couple years, they can't say "at the time of airing".. I dunno..I hear "worst in history" and I get all excited...
PrisonFaces 4 weeks ago
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Because of this series I am taking classes to become an aircraft mechanic..
First thing they pound into your head is...
DO ALL REPAIRS, REPLACEMENTS, AND MAINTENANCE AS DESCRIBED BY THE MANUFACTURER, FAR'S, AND SERVICE MANUAL!!!!!!!
No short cuts. Period.
Plane crashes and you were the one who was found to cause it...your career is OVER!
equarg 1 month ago
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equarg 1 month ago
DC = Designed to Crash
DeputyLOL 1 month ago
ive been in 14 flights and ALL of the them were boeing
ayazd3 1 month ago in playlist More videos from Lengas32
WTF? getting out alive day?? How come we dont get that channel?
theblacksheep1000 1 month ago
Ron Paul is going to do away with the NTSB too? Just asking.
freezingsun8 1 month ago
airline companies are out to make money air disasters are just a glitch in making that money and like all companies they are not to blame, Politicians are the same get use to it there will be more plane crashes with the same results in the future. Dated this day 30/12/2011 at 10.26pm.
willowbear2 1 month ago
The training manual is wrong?!?!?! Who is stupid enough to fuck up a training manual? Those things need to be filled with the right information for EVERY situation!
Piazzafan1 2 months ago
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Piazzafan1 2 months ago
As soon as I heard the words "DC-10", I was like "Here we go again..."
MeBomb1 2 months ago
Did anyone here even watch the video? Your questions would have been answered if you had...
pmfith 2 months ago
Freaky how two flight 191s have crashed, this one and Delta Flight 191.
BellyLover06 2 months ago
the commentator sounds as if he would speak with closed nose
martinitorino 2 months ago
How many narrators can they possibly use for one TV series? Ive counted at least four.
arizonatsunami 2 months ago
i still think that the 737 video is the best one because he managed to pull the whole thing off
sabhacker101 2 months ago
When I flew on planes as a kid, I sometimes worried about crashing. My Dad assured me correctly that airplanes are the safest way to travel. Thing is, in a plane crash - everyone dies. In a car crash, there are fatalities but also many survivors and those not even injured.
Railer505 3 months ago
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Railer505 3 months ago
DC-10/MD-11, great planes, bad company
KangaKucha 3 months ago
So AA gets fined $500,000 by the US Gov, then their insurance pays them the cost of the plane plus $25 million. So that crash resulted in a gross gain of $24.5 million. I wonder how much each victim's family got.
kaizersolze 3 months ago
the dc10 strikes again.
PDExplorer193 3 months ago
06:15 looks like the intro to a cheesy porno
dman090951 4 months ago
26:06 - I didn't know that CVR comes in standard ATX computer case :P
doktorwsk 4 months ago
McDonnel Douglas, you fucking suck
Th3R3alPr0 4 months ago 8
@Th3R3alPr0 McDonnel Douglas doesn't exist anymore. Boeing bought it in 1996
Lengas32 4 months ago 11
@Lengas32 I know, they merge together, creating......... McBoeing Douglas.
Th3R3alPr0 4 months ago
@Lengas32 Thank god.
scorpianofthesun 3 months ago
@Lengas32 so do they ground all planes of a similar type untill they can determine if its a fault in design?
luna1632 3 months ago
@luna1632 Yes. That's what they do
Lengas32 3 months ago
@Lengas32
Belive it or not, Fedex still flies a DC10 and Swiss Air 111 that crashed in Nova Scotia Canada, was MD 11
jaysfan19 1 month ago
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equarg 1 month ago
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@jaysfan19 If you look up ACI Hijacked, in 2003 (?) a crazy Fed Ex flight engineer tried to hijack a DC-10 and crash if for insurance money for his family.
The 3 men flying the plane received horrible head injures in his attack, but fought him off physically AND using the aircraft to keep him off balance. They almost put the DC-10 upside down and broke the sound barrier too. The men had fighter jet experience and did things you don't normally do to DC-10's.
You should watch it!
equarg 1 month ago
@equarg
I've seen the show
jaysfan19 1 month ago
@Th3R3alPr0 don't forget AA they caused it to crash
titanic5577 3 months ago
@Th3R3alPr0 Its not their fault, you cannot make every single piece plane 100% safe, besides if anything it would be American airlines fault.
nssd70m2 2 months ago
@Th3R3alPr0
Hey idiot - the problem was American Airlines maintenance procedure where the lazy ass mechanics used a forklift and didn't disconnect the engine from the pylon - they disconnected and reconnected the entire assembly, then went home leaving the assembly on the forklift, which damaged the pylon bracket.. They didn't follow M.D.'s written procedure. Hey, lets see if you can use more foul language to express your uneducated opinion...
pmfith 2 months ago
@Th3R3alPr0 dude, it wasn't McDonnel Douglas' fault. it was American Airlines' fault. they took a shortcut in reattaching the engine during maintenance, and that made the engine fall off on takeoff
RJfan 2 months ago
@Th3R3alPr0 Believe it or not, McDonnell Douglas is the innocent party when it comes to the engine falling off. AA asked for input on their forklift procedure from MD. MD told AA they didn't like it, and to remove the engine/pylon as recommended. AA did it their way anyway.
AA failed, and profitted from it. The FAA failed because they didn't have proper mx reporting procedures. MD failed with emergency procedures and system design not related to the pylon mounts. Team effort...
bluedevil9192 2 months ago 2
@Th3R3alPr0 no the dc 10 was the best plane theses things happen dude
MrGabegogo 1 month ago
@Th3R3alPr0 its not mcdonnell douglas fault, its cutting corners by american airlines, if theyd have properly disconnected the engine pylon, this wouldnt have happened
scottwalper 1 month ago
@Th3R3alPr0 it was american!
vpa0 1 month ago
pretty strange how the priest starts reading the bible -if there was a god in heaven would he have let such a tragedy take place? Seems very odd
MrDevilstreaker 4 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (1/2) No, not at all strange, according to Christian theology. We don't believe that God ever promised to make life "easy" down here, or to prevent tragedy on the earth, or to protect every single person from every single danger. That's not a Christian belief, and is never preached or taught in Scripture. What we believe is that suffering and disaster are absolutely unavoidable, and that faith in God can't save you from earthly suffering. Regardless of what happens to us here...
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (2/2) what matters is that God is there with us whether we're suffering or not, and more than anything else, faith in Christ is what takes us to Heaven instead of to Hell after we die. Christianity does not teach that God's going to make life on earth easy. What it teaches is that our life here is the blink of an eye compared to eternity, and that God's protection and salvation for all eternity is more important than "here and now" pain, and even worth suffering here to ensure.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
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MrDevilstreaker 2 months ago
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@bustedbenz I see so god basically sits in heaven or with us here, and millions of innocent babies who drown, get electrocuted -completely innocently - will die (even though god can prevent it) - because suffering go hand in hand. Have I got this correct? Because your god says so, he wont lift a finger to help a baby being burned alive in a building, and have his christian / or non christian parents suffer for all their lives? All ppl not introduced to god will burn forever in hell?
MrDevilstreaker 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker I'm not going to make a point-by-point reply, because there's nothing I can do in Youtube comments to persuade you to listen to something you've already decided to dispute. It amazes me that a person can have this kind of animosity toward Christianity with such faulty facts about it. You're right about Hell being forever, but many/most Christians believe that those who never had a chance to know God are pardoned. The lost are those who *knowingly* denied Him.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@bustedbenz No. You wont make a point by point reply - because you can't without sounding ridiculous. Where are my faulty facts? Dont strawman the argument. Look you're too close minded to get past the brainwashing. Its just so sad to see my fellow man being so utterly deluded with his thinking to think there is a celstial dictator who will burn people in hell - and yet ... he loves you. I genuinely feel sorry for people like your - the real "lost"
MrDevilstreaker 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (1/11) Well in the first place, you can't legitimately attack Christianity as "brainwashing" and delusion, if you don't even look at what Christianity actually teaches and why it does so. If you refuse to make an accurate study of Christian doctrine, then you cannot argue against it. If you likewise refuse to make an accurate study of the accurate historicity of the Bible, then the deity of Christ and the teachings of Christ can't mean anything to you.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (2/11) There is no doctrinal, logical, or moral difficulty with reconciling the punishment of Hell with the love of God, but it can only be understood if you are willing to accept God's word on the subject, and if you are willing to understand WHY things are the way that they are. Faulty fact number one was, as I already replied, your belief that Christianity teaches that those who "were never introduced to God" are condemned.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (3/11) Problem #2 is your assumption that a good, loving God is morally obliged to save all lives and alleviate all suffering. Not only is this not a Christian belief, but I don't even accept it as a reasonable hypothesis of what God "should" do, REGARDLESS of religion.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@bustedbenz So by your very statement, your "loving god" would condemn inncocent peopel to burn in hell, if they dont believe in him. What a loving god.
MrDevilstreaker 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker They aren't "innocent" if they didn't believe. Failure to believe is, in and of itself, a sufficient crime to warrant eternal punishment. Also, other than the smallest of infants, no one on this earth can live a PERFECT life with zero sins, except for Christ. That was God's requirement, all along. Even one tiny sin merits punishment.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (4/11) The other "fact" that you really have misunderstood about Christianity is your statement that God burns people in Hell. God does not CHOOSE to send people there. Again, without a Biblical understanding of the details of this subject, this is a moot discussion. God is not actively choosing to reward some people and punish others. God has said that EVERYONE, universally, save no one, *deserves* the punishment. God is loving but also fair.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@bustedbenz God made hell. He made the rules by which a person goes to hell or not correct? Ergo he condems some people to burn in hell for all eternity. What a great loving god.
MrDevilstreaker 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker Partially true but not completely. He made the rules, but told the people about them upfront. The people (using free will) chose to disobey Him, and in doing so, condemned themselves. God created it as a place to hold Satan and the demons, but it was the humans' own fault that they didn't obey Him in the beginning. It's a double act of love. He loved by offering them a chance to obey, and loved again by offering them forgiveness for failing to, if they'd accept.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@bustedbenz Ridiculous. Its like a mafia boss holding a gun to my head saying "you are going to kill yourself if you dont follow my orders... dont kill yourself man! Obey me!" Of course he is the one who pulls the trigger. He made the rules upfront knowing in advance that some people will use their "free will" (although there is a lot of scientific debate that free will actually exists) to question him. He tortures people for eternity for "not believing in him" ? You are so deluded
MrDevilstreaker 1 week ago
@MrDevilstreaker (5/11) This fairness means (for reasons that, again, I must refer to Scripture to explain) that everyone deserves to suffer eternally after death. This is the fairness and justness of God. The LOVE of God is found in that He did freely offer the deep sacrifice of his own perfect Son, who sacrificed Himself to save US. We don't deserve it, we haven't earned it -- and yet in love, God has offered it with only the stipulation that we have to accept it.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@bustedbenz you are relying on the weird made up stories in old scripture fairy tales, and treating them as fact. God didnt really sacrifice his son now did he? He died on the cross as thousands of others did - with the bonus of being "resurected" and living forever as ultimate ruler. Shit I would go through the same thing if I had that power. How do you believe this shit ? Brain washed severely
MrDevilstreaker 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker No. I am treating them as fact because legitimate, fair, well-practiced science has established them firmly and irrefutably as fact. God did indeed make that sacrifice -- Christ himself suffered in Hell for three days BEFORE being resurrected, and paid the debt that we owed while doing so.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (6/11) God doesn't send people to Hell. People send people to Hell, by refusing to ask God to save them from it. You also seem to be stating that babies and the "innocent" are somehow more tragic victims or more worthy of being saved from fires than perhaps the less "innocent". This is also not a Christian ethic. The fact that parents suffer at the death of a child has absolutely nothing to do with an argument about the existence or nonexistence of God.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (7/11) The largest issue at hand, though, is the fact that human logic, human morality, human ethics -- none of these are adequate tools for use in the determination of the character and/or existence of God. It isn't a reasonable proposition to say that "I have a problem with a loving God performing this action, and therefore I can conclude that my definition of love is true, and that because this action wasn't loving by my standards, God does not exist/love."
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@bustedbenz Right - so we cant use our brains - we just have to accept this "mysterious" being as a perfect god. You get this from ridiculous bronze age illiterate desert dwelling scribes. Wake up - you are deluded!
MrDevilstreaker 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (8/11) The bottom line of the discussion is that *IF* Christianity is correct, then God does exist, Heaven and Hell do exist, and the souls of the dead spend eternity in one or the other of those places. The belief in these facts is formulated because the Bible teaches them. It is *reasonable* to trust the Bible to provide this information, not because our parents and grandparents did so, but because there is good scientific evidence to believe the Bible.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@bustedbenz WHAT scientific, peer reviewed evidence of agod are you talking about ? You foolish man! That verbal bullshit leaking out of your mouth is stinking up the room! Gosh how did people get so deluded! Listen to yourself you actually sound mad!
MrDevilstreaker 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker At least my arguments are about the facts. Resorting to ad hominem attacks when you can't actually defend the subject itself anymore pretty much means the debate is over. Which, by the way, this one is. I've made a good-faith offer to provide you with reading materials and resources to study this out and see if you still believe what you believe, and if you'd rather stick your head in the sand and ignore it, it's fine with me.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (9/11) First of all, we know that the Bible as we read it today is accurate in the sense that we are reading today what the original authors intended, without corruption. We know this by the legitimate science of textual comparison and analysis of manuscripts. The other part of the proof is that not only do we know that we are reading accurately recorded documents, but we also know that those documents can *reasonably* be believed as eye-witness history.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (10/11) Many branches of science including archaeology support that conclusion. If you actually want to study this, I can provide several good references. Bottom line, though, is that we know that the Bible is an accurately preserved recording of actually occurring events. Some of those events included Jesus Christ, walking the earth, and doing miracles that PROVED beyond all doubt, to the people who saw Him, that He was God.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker (11/11) Christ proved that He was God to eye witnesses, who recorded those facts for future generations to observe. Because we know that we are reading accurate accounts, the *unavoidable* conclusion is that because those historical people saw God walking the earth, we have to believe that He did so, and that what He said was true. That's really all there is to say. These aren't my opinions; these are facts. I will be glad to provide sources for you to consider.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@bustedbenz Eye witnesses ? People that long ago believed anything! People TODAY will tell you that god appears in toast! Imagein what they believed back then! That aint evidence, you cant rely on that ! You cannot be this gullible! We DONT know they are accurate accounts! Where the hell does that come from?! We *have to believe * I see you write? Oh man you didnt waste all that time writing this crap did you - please tell me you're joking. There is no solid evidence here at all!
MrDevilstreaker 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker People today will believe anything too. First, accounts of Biblical events and persons are substantiated by third party sources from the same period, even by those individuals who would prefer to have denied Christ. Also, the Bible has accurately placed artifacts, civilizations, and people accurately, many times throughout modern history, in spite of skepticism. If *your* mind is as open as you desire mine to be, then read "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@bustedbenz You dont think I've read that trash? His tired arguments about transitional forms? How many times to scientists have to keep educating morons like Strobel who put their fingers in there ears when presented with mountains of mutually corroborating evidence (Real evidence that is peer reviewed unlike the bible). He is also "shocked" about species that are found in different time zones, that are very similar- Very novice evolution critic. Believe what you want
MrDevilstreaker 2 months ago
@MrDevilstreaker I will. I believe that the theory of evolution, in its entirely, is a very reasonable explanation for how species developed. I also fully endorse the "Big Bang" theory to explain the creation of the universe, and I believe that the Earth is 4.5x billion years old; whatever the geologists say the number is now.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
@bustedbenz Great! And I will believe in a fairy in the sky who has a huge palace full of angels with wings, where people who died get brought back to life- even pedophiles who do death bed conversions - and a huge hot hell of lava waiting for good people who dont know god- to be sent to for all eternity. Not to mention the entire planet coming from Adam and Eve who had 2 sons - yet were able to screw and produce the rest of the worlds people, burning bushes, talking snakes - great!
MrDevilstreaker 2 months ago
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@MrDevilstreaker Look. I see you have Downs syndrome or something fucked up during your birth, so I guess I shouldnt really call you ugly - I mean I guess someone can't really blame mother nature for her - unfortunate - err .. "Gift"... But hey .. the main thing to understand - is that you're special. You really are. There are programs out there that can help you achieve things like - washing yourself, ironing clothes things that need motor skill (That might be difficult for you). Good luck!
loveunderlaw 1 month ago
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GamerFan73 1 week ago
@bustedbenz I've read Strobel's work. His sources are biased and his evidence fails to meet a reasonable standard. Reliable proof of supernatural events is nonexistent. The closest anyone came to corroborating contemporary Biblical accounts is at least 20 years after the supposed date of Jesus' death. The Bible itself wasn't even put together until around 300AD by the Council of Nicea and some of the books have been shown to be just restructured combinations of other books.
icemachine79 5 days ago
@MrDevilstreaker It's hard to give an actually good explanation in 500 characters -- I don't mean to imply that God doesn't care at all about tragedies in human lives. He very much does care about them. The point I was trying to make is that though He cares about those things, He never promised to prevent them. Yes, God as an all-powerful being could prevent these things if He chose, but we have to trust that He has a plan even if we don't know it.Some believe that Satan causes tragedy, not God.
bustedbenz 2 months ago
13:20 ....yeah i mean ....
88matheos1 4 months ago
Its was American Airlines fault, yet MDC tock most of the finicial loses, absolute bullshit, especailly considering that JAL to the fall for Boering after flight 123 which crashed causing 500+ deaths because Boeing did improper matanience.
KangaKucha 4 months ago
@KangaKucha Dude, its not improper matanience dumbass, it was destroy because of the tail, and the pilot didn't know that the tail is destroy.
Th3R3alPr0 4 months ago
@Th3R3alPr0 your a dumbss because the tail was not fixed properly, go watch ACI episode on it, then come back to me.
KangaKucha 4 months ago
@KangaKucha It was a tail strike, and it doesn't have a crack when the Boeing team arrived.
Th3R3alPr0 4 months ago
@Th3R3alPr0 but they did a piss poor repair dude dickhead, not the airline.
KangaKucha 3 months ago
@KangaKucha No replay? OWNED
Th3R3alPr0 3 months ago
I feel that it was great McDonnell Douglas was taken over by Boeing and that DC10s are no longer used / few are in use now.
kunalchanna 4 months ago
Freaking DC-10s.... How many souls have those shitfucks taken?
Why were they keeping those flying coffins in the sky?
silver222333 5 months ago
That is one epic engine fail...
Gravitite1 5 months ago
Cant they get the voice from the tower?? The tower records all voice comms
McChuugy 5 months ago
omg...DC-10...Here we go again."Death Cruiser 10"
SpringField911 6 months ago 17
DC-10 seems to be the cause of so many accidents
RealUFOs2009 6 months ago
@ ALuvLikeNoOther
What that means is that you are more likely to get into a car crash than a plane crash.
CrazyFrog356 6 months ago
And flying a plane is much safer than driving..? Never heard of a car crash or pile up where 270+ people die. Yep I'll continue to drive.
ALuvLikeNoOther 6 months ago
@ALuvLikeNoOther in the us about 136,000 people die every year in car crashes 138 in plane crashes source nova website
turningstones2010 6 months ago
wow. thank you. i love this show
rctlover1 6 months ago
DC-10 = Kamikaze.
NaruMikoo 6 months ago 5
A friend of mine who used to travel extensively for work said he wouldn't fly on a DC-10. He'd reschedule his reservations rather than get on what he called a "death chamber 10"
Marty933 6 months ago
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TheSoundtrackFreak 7 months ago
i was in school in chicago and watched this crash happen. i still remember watching and thinking "this isn't right". i was 9 years old.
throttlejockey34 7 months ago
21:03 -- "It's vital to understand why the engine fell off..."
No shit?
xskatzx 7 months ago 5
2:06, my favorite thing to see.
mrdeisel335 7 months ago
again the DC-10..... -.-
terenas1986 8 months ago
How can the eyewitnesse have seen backfiring (10:10) when the engine was found half way down the runway, so no longer on the plane?
stones1752 8 months ago
13:13 is like from U2's Beautiful Day
MultiJames95 8 months ago
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MultiJames95 8 months ago
What happened to the old narrator?
PSshadow92 8 months ago
This terrible plane crash happened 32 years ago today. There is an article about it in the Daily Herald regarding a memorial that is supposed to be dedicated in the fall in Des Plaines.
cdasa005 9 months ago
what kind of security did they have back then? when someone can just run on a runway like that?
kief0120 9 months ago 2
Why was there no flight engineer aboard that flight? And why does the narrator keep saying "single plane accident"? There hasn't been a deadlier collision in the US, has there?
Elemarth 10 months ago
@Elemarth they are excluding 9/11 by saying "single plane accident" so they are correct in wording the crash that way
kief0120 9 months ago
@kief0120 Oh, that makes sense. Thanks for explaining.
Elemarth 9 months ago
@Elemarth I have to agree with you, when I read up on the crew I think it was horrible they didn't include the Flight Engineer
dachocolateprincess 8 months ago
Wow someone was in trouble. Engines aren't supposed to just fall off of airplanes.
pucksterz12 10 months ago 21
17:10 it that hutch? o.o
arongutten9107 10 months ago
just imagine the reaction of a passenger seating at the windows during take off and seeing the pilone up the wing !!!!! OMG
naboorusunny 10 months ago
OMG THANKS SO MUCH! I love that I can watch this in one shot and not have to go through many videos
dachocolateprincess 10 months ago 34
f u mcdonnal douglas and AA
titanic5577 11 months ago
Thanks for the videos. Be the way, do you have the episode with the Ethiopian airline crash in the Indian ocean off the coast of east Africa? I really enjoyed that one when I watched, so if you could upload I am sure a lot of people will like it. Thank you.
magaiyo 11 months ago