sitting in my music history 101 class with all music majors, the professor mentions the bach cello suites. some misinformed soul asked, "is that the one yo-yo ma plays?" he rightfully replies with, "which one? ..there are six...but the answer to your question is that yo-yo ma warms up on all six cello suites everday, but he chooses only to perform the first one." ...the best part about this story is that the student just nodded and took him seriously.
The term genius is used for people that "revolutionize" their time. People that make significant break through or greatly inspire others, so Mozart and Beethoven were geniuses of THEIR time. Genius is not used just for modern day references
They are the cello suites, but there's nothing wrong with them played on other instruments. I played this one for an audition on saxophone and it worked pretty well.
@HARMONICO101 Yes, these were orginally written for cello, Bach later arranged some of both the cello suites and violin partitas and sonatas for baroque lute.
I would have to agree with you. The fifth is definitely my favorite. Don't get me wrong, I like this one a lot, but the fifth has such energy. Bach was a genius.
Where did you get this song? Was it off one of his CDs? if so which one. I am looking to buy a CD of all of J.S. Bach's Unaccompanied Cello Suites performed by Yo-Yo Ma, and the Baroque tuning you refer to on this version is quite moving (almost sad).
I bought the CD entitled "Inspired by Bach". It's the recording of the complete cello suites that he made for the "Inspired by Bach" series of short films. The films are a good watch. The short film for the fifth suite is the most ingenious artistic interpretation I have yet to see of a classical piece.
@HARMONICO101 The fourth movement of this piece is the only music found in Ingmar Bergman's 1961 masterpiece Through a Glass Darkly. It's use is achingly beautiful.
ok dude, if you can't relax when playing bach because you are intimidated by him...you suck at playing music and it would be hard to enjoy your interpretation in the first place. Personally I find bach easy to play in a relaxed and enjoyable manner.
Listen to the Brandenburgs I have uploaded. Then tell me if you think he is "dispatched of reality and feeling". Or the St. John Passion, or the Christmas Oratorio, or the Prelude in C, or the Goldberg Variations, or Chaconne in D minor for violin, or the Tocatta & Fugue in D minor for organ.
If you can't feel the emotion in this music, then maybe it's you who is truly "dispatched of reality and feeling".
All his music tells a story...STUDY BACH FOR AWHILE AND RESPOND...when you understand him better then you can form an opinion that is more intelectual and sound less ignorant...and i dont mean that in a negative way its just you say things that are horribly untrue.
Bach was not overratted...if anything he is underrated. His genious is undeniable and as Harmonico 101 said..."it is quite unlikely that the evolution of music would have been the same if it wasn't for J.S. Bach." Truly study him for about a year and comeback. I say a year because there is that much to be learned on him.
I have to politely disagree, there is no one that even compares to Bach. Have you ever mathematically studied his "the Musical Offering"? There's stuff in there that we can't even begin to comprehend. He was a genius and no one quite understands him, I think he is comparible to Einstein's Theory of Relativity. No one really knows the implications of the theory.
Well, if you think about it, it's not that many geniuses compared to the hundreds and hundreds of composers that have lived over the centuries and are now mostly forgotten.
Prussian nationalism helped bring these composers back into the mainstream, but they were never really forgotten when they died. They were still revered by musicians, and their pieces were still played in private.
But, the music speaks for itself. These composers were genius'. There is no conspiracy there.
Wikipedia isn't all that great, but the Bach section is quite accurate.
Bach was by no means a follower. He learned everything he could about the music of his time and used it to create incredible masterpieces. He didn't invent new forms, but he innovated what was already around into something truly extraodinary.
Mozart was a bit more of a follower because he kept pretty close to what Haydn started. But again, he took what he learned and created incredible masterpieces. I think that Salieri stuff is rubbish personally, but Mozart was quite famous during his lifetime, except when his reputation diminished later in his short life. Mozart was also highly influential after he died. Beethoven for example was heavily influenced by him.
Beethoven seriously pushed the evolution of music moving it from the classical style into the romantic style. Some of his compositions are way ahead of his time, particularily the Grosse Fugue for string quartet. He also wrote some of the most rousing and inspiring music of all time.
Oh, and something about the Salieri thing again. No book on the history of music seriously considers the Salieri murder thing. I also have never met a musician who seriously believes that. That's mostly from uninformed fans of "Amadeus"
Although Bach did not invent new forms, he brought the music of the Baroque era into it's ultimate maturity, bringing together the various styles of the era and developing counterpoint further than anyone else had before. He also wrote some of the most heart-wrenchingly beautiful and emotional pieces yet to appear.
Bach was also highly admired by many composers after his death even though he was never very popular in his liftime, he was revered be composers such as Mozart and Beethoven, who studied his music and and took what they learned to their compositions.
As well, the Well-Tempered Clavier is the most influential set of keyboard pieces ever and was played and studied by many of the greats.
So all-in-all, it is quite unlikely that the evolution of music would have been the same if it wasn't for J.S. Bach.
The English wikipedia article on him has a nice section on Bach's legacy. i don't know about the one in French if you would prefer to read it in your native language.
"3rd brandburgen concerto. All the notes, all the effects are taken on Vivaldi"
Not really, stylistically it is very italinate but not specifically Vivaldian. Also the complex counterpoint and balance of the instruments for an oddly constructed concerto has little connection to Vivaldi.
BWV1043 is so epitomatically Bach I am surprised you mentioned it. It is typical Bach with his complex counterpoint and fugal patterns and are beyond what Telemann did in his concertos.
Citing BWV1066 as being Handel-like also shows a lack of understanding of baroque music. It follows the form of the French suite which starts with an Ouverture in the French style and is followed by a specific set of dance movements. Very popular form in the baroque era, especially for keyboard pieces which both Handel and Bach did. Although they're styles are both somewhat similar, Bach's is ultimately more complex.
Don't throw in your opinions of religion into this. That doesn't prove a point at all.
Plus, if you actually read my comments, you would see that I don't loop in stupid people with people who don't like Bach and smart people like Bach. There are many, many exceptions. All I said is that it says something basic about the personality of an individual.
By the way, I'm not a Bach fanatic either. You can see my channel and you'll see that's not the case. I love the music of many other composers as well. In fact, I have more Vivaldi videos than anyone one composer on my channel.
Okay, now you officially demonstrated to me that you have a severe lack of maturity and intelligence and so proves what I "insinuated" at the beginning.
I hate your bullshit of being some sort of enlightened person for not liking Bach, like your some sort of rebel against the system, which I'm sure you think is pretty awesome.
Liking Bach does say something strong about the intelligence and maturity of an individual. Nevertheless, I know a few smart people who aren't big fans, and a few dumb people who are. The people who truly love his music are the ones that open up emotionally to the music. For some people, that comes with time. For others it never comes at all. Human beings respond emotionally to different things. Human beings are really complex creatures.
The problem I had with your obnoxious comment was that saying Bach is boring shows a strong lack of understand, not so much a difference in taste. Same with those who find old movies boring, or don't like reading books becuase they're boring.
The reason Bach's music wasn't popular in his lifetime is becuase his music was in a style that was losing popularity. The high baroque style was losing out to the bouyant galante/rococo style.
Might I also remind you that after he died, composers like Mozart, Beethoven, and Chopin held him in the highest esteem.
Don't give me that evil media crap, I'm so sick of it. Bach was a supreme genius, and any his works will tell you that; The Brandenburg Concertos, the Goldberg Variations, the Art of the Fugue, the B Minor Mass, the suites for solo cello, the sonatas and partitas for solo violin... I could go on. I have played many of them, and have studied the scores of many of them.
He is one of the greatest artists in the history of western culture, with perhaps the most devote following of fans in perhaps any kind of music. There is no denying that.
I wasn't forced to think anything. no one pushed me to like Bach or even classical music in general. I came to those conclusions myself. I love this music, as hard as that may be for you to comprehend.
It's just like showing a seven-year old a film drama. I bet you that the kid would think it was pretty boring. But of course, as you get older, you develop the attention and intelligence to watch those kind of movies and not be bored.
"Bach is not all the classical music" is actually something I have said to alot of people here on Youtube. I still believe that as do many classical musicians and true connoisseurs.
I used to not like Bach at all when I was younger. I knew his music was fantastically complicated but I also thought it was exceedingly boring. But as I continue to grow and mature and become a better violinist, I have been able to really appreciate the supreme genius of his music and have the attention to listen to sublime pieces of his like this.
Unfortunately, the main reason classical music's popularity is decaying is becuase children's attention spans are getting shorter and shorter and media is getting louder and louder to try to stand out and trump whatever came before. It seeems to many kids today think that if a song doesn't have a pounding bass, or crazy guitar solos, then it's boring.
Movies display this best. Movies are so different today than they were thiry, forty, years ago. Bonny and Clyde, the first film to ever use bullet scwibs was considered the most atrociously violent movie ever made. Now it's really tame compared to what we have today. We have movies with people's legs being blown off, eyes being ripped out, heads cut off... Then we have graphic sex and rape scenes that would have been unheard of in a film forty years ago.
To keep the audience's attention we now need constant sound effects, some sort of musical score playing constantly, short scenes, short run-time, lots of emotional blow-ups, high body cout... I could go on.
Getting back to the classical music, I find it a bit disturbing, but understandable that the Bach pieces you said you liked are all high energy, fast pieces. People need to learn to stop racing constantly and just learn to sit back, relax, and let the music carry you away.
You don't have to be an elitist to like classical music. Why did you even bother looking up this video and commenting if you don't even appreciate classical music?
further than Yo yo Ma,this music come's directly from the soul and goes in the same direction...I feel a deep emotion by lystening Bach,it's a kind of superior experience...
I absolutely love Bach's cello suites!
pyromaniac899 2 weeks ago
There's nothing quite like compositions in the minor key. It just sits right in the bones.
whitewashedlife 3 weeks ago
<3
herautdeDieu 1 month ago
thank you for uploading such fantastic music!
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Anyone knows where are the sheets for this? ^^
Sinnicie666 4 months ago
cello is a beautiful and lovable instrument to hear.....this will be the second instrument that I'll want to learn to play.
men playing cello = they're all sexy!
ave0satani 5 months ago
Does somebody knows the name of this painting ?
Bukosaure 5 months ago
@Bukosaure - It is Caspar David Friedrich, I believe simply called "winter landscape". He is one of my absolute favorite artists.
TheWanderingPrimate 1 month ago
so intense!
folkbrutale 5 months ago
Juiciebox12:
If you are terrible at violin, you are going to be terrible at cello! What makes you think otherwise?
If I were you I would quit while I am ahead!
flubished 8 months ago
... ... ... I'm learning the cello
rhcpfan2030 1 year ago
Not as active as the prelude to Suite No. 1, but just as enchanting.
Ansible1000 1 year ago
man I love the cello used to play it in highschool and still remember how to play up until today, a truly unforgettable instrument.
Anontalkwarrior 1 year ago
GREAT MUSIC
LaurentziuRo2010 1 year ago
this piece brought tears to my eyes......
susanasotelo12 1 year ago
pussy
CosmikDebris7 1 year ago
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@CosmikDebris7
Well, You are what you eat ;)
susanasotelo12 1 year ago
I play the violin...
*begins to cry*
SuperSoupysoup 1 year ago
@SuperSoupysoup
Same here ;_;
Though now I think I might want to learn the cello later on.
I'm horrible at violin xD.
juiciebox12 1 year ago
@juiciebox12
That would be awesome! I wanna learn how to play the cello as well. :)
SuperSoupysoup 1 year ago
funny story:
sitting in my music history 101 class with all music majors, the professor mentions the bach cello suites. some misinformed soul asked, "is that the one yo-yo ma plays?" he rightfully replies with, "which one? ..there are six...but the answer to your question is that yo-yo ma warms up on all six cello suites everday, but he chooses only to perform the first one." ...the best part about this story is that the student just nodded and took him seriously.
NSNV23 1 year ago
they be trollin'
diekill123 1 year ago
also, I didnt say "most sad" i said "sad" read!!!
Zractor 2 years ago
violinist!!! TRAITOR!!!
Zractor 2 years ago 2
Ah hahahahahaha! Down with the Violin! It is just no good!
ashleingh 2 years ago
actually not, I just like the viola and cello better (I play the viola)
Zractor 2 years ago
and I play the cello...your point ?
ashleingh 2 years ago
@ashleingh mh, no point
Zractor 2 years ago
This conversation is getting a little sscchilly.
ashleingh 2 years ago
@ashleingh yea, sorry to bother you lol
Zractor 2 years ago
we had fun while it lasted :P
ashleingh 2 years ago
Q_Q
Zractor 2 years ago
Please stop the senseless violins!!
kibcubed 1 year ago
His solo violin partita 2 in d moll (sarabande) is probably the most sad music I've ever heard.
Steroid0Strad 2 years ago
Its so beautiful, yet so sad. This is a true song of the heart
Zractor 2 years ago
not sure about the history thing with regard to genius. lennon/mccartney a pretty good example of genius...
seanla100 2 years ago
i'm learning this on the guitar and I feel like im lucid dreaming when im playing it. so wonderful.
callistosrising 2 years ago 2
The term genius is used for people that "revolutionize" their time. People that make significant break through or greatly inspire others, so Mozart and Beethoven were geniuses of THEIR time. Genius is not used just for modern day references
GSqueakR 2 years ago
They are the cello suites, but there's nothing wrong with them played on other instruments. I played this one for an audition on saxophone and it worked pretty well.
OpenCadence78 2 years ago
and I play it on bass guitar
AdamFSmith 2 years ago
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MyrnaMinx1 2 years ago
Whats the picture? And who is it by?
It goes very well with this beautiful song.
solsticesa 2 years ago
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orginally wroten for the guitar this lovely musik.
abby161919 2 years ago
Nope. Bach wrote these pieces specifically for the cello.
HARMONICO101 2 years ago 8
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nope my friend bach dident like the cello, he wrote this one and chaccone orginally for the lute/guitar
abby161919 2 years ago
Heh, uh, no. Not at all. You're completely wrong.
Do I sense... a troller trollin?
HARMONICO101 2 years ago 4
seriously. they're the bach CELLO suites
vivimaze 2 years ago
Are you retarded Abby?
shakezulathemicrulah 2 years ago
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your mom is retarded boy!
abby161919 2 years ago
Yeah I suppose she is..We don't get along too well
But I digress, you are still a complete retard. Did it even cross your little mind that they are called "Cello" suites?
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this one is orginally wroten for lute/baroce guitar, yes it is tru the song is called cello suites you fucking asswhole!!
abby161919 2 years ago
@HARMONICO101 Yes, these were orginally written for cello, Bach later arranged some of both the cello suites and violin partitas and sonatas for baroque lute.
ceadachrua 1 year ago 2
@HARMONICO101 This peice was written for george bush's wedding. lovely man
Beardydragon 1 year ago
@Beardydragon LOL!
Duckthunda 1 year ago
@Beardydragon this was written in the 18th century much before bush was even born
erikanundson 1 year ago
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wrw28405 1 year ago
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Maybe he meant George Washington... but still, Washington was 10 years away from being born by the time Bach wrote the cello suites.
He might just be a retard :p
vegitoxtreme 1 year ago
Bach is my all time favorite.
6Ott7 2 years ago
BEAUTIFUL!
Jacksonbrothers 2 years ago
thank you for add this piece. whenever i listen to this composition my heart is full of velvet nostalgia.
The sound of Cello is healing!
SilvaMorasten 2 years ago 2
Another one of the songs my dad used to play...
I think this is actually my favorite cello piece. Save the Prelude in G Major for the solo cello suite No. 1
myjeansaretooshort 2 years ago
The fifth is my favorite.
HARMONICO101 2 years ago
Mine too,
especially the sarabande and prelude.
WeAreEternal1223 2 years ago
@HARMONICO101
I would have to agree with you. The fifth is definitely my favorite. Don't get me wrong, I like this one a lot, but the fifth has such energy. Bach was a genius.
TheViolaGuru 5 months ago
@HARMONICO101 I think this is my favorite, there is so much emotion in this piece you can't take it lightly at all.
violaXplayer 3 months ago
beautiful
rocker123cc 2 years ago
the painting fits the key like a glove!
epn10 2 years ago 3
or a well made shoe.
aztoogood 2 years ago
Is his cello tuned differently, or is that just the tone? It seems a little flat.
dumblond4 2 years ago
Baroque tuning. In this case, it is a semi-tone lower than modern standard pitch.
HARMONICO101 2 years ago
Hmm, not sure why I don't know that. Thanks!
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epn10 2 years ago
Where did you get this song? Was it off one of his CDs? if so which one. I am looking to buy a CD of all of J.S. Bach's Unaccompanied Cello Suites performed by Yo-Yo Ma, and the Baroque tuning you refer to on this version is quite moving (almost sad).
jesterblake 2 years ago
I bought the CD entitled "Inspired by Bach". It's the recording of the complete cello suites that he made for the "Inspired by Bach" series of short films. The films are a good watch. The short film for the fifth suite is the most ingenious artistic interpretation I have yet to see of a classical piece.
HARMONICO101 2 years ago
@HARMONICO101 The fourth movement of this piece is the only music found in Ingmar Bergman's 1961 masterpiece Through a Glass Darkly. It's use is achingly beautiful.
arandomspectator 1 year ago
thank you so much for uploading this! the prelude is every where but the complete set of the suites is hard to find. Thank you
vivimaze 2 years ago
aww... makes me feel nostalgic. i used to play this a few years ago, just before i quit. too much pressure -> performing etc. ...
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not enough feeling or emotion but hey its just MY opinion and in such i like Mischa Maisky s version way better
geoyasha88 2 years ago
I don't get nervous when playing Bach, I think you are just making stuff up.
MrBigJeffy 2 years ago 2
Wow, this is so solem sounding! I LOVE IT!
bakablackbird 2 years ago
I have just been introduced to these beautiful suites, and I love this one the most. I so want to play this on my viola.
27byakuyafan27 2 years ago 8
I am playing this on my viola!
it's AWESOOOOOOOOOME!
mindreader12345 2 years ago 2
My favorite from all 6 suites!!
Love ittttt!!!!!
Ores77 2 years ago
i am a celloist and this piece is simply beautiful we had one of the phil harmonic musicians come to our school and perform it
saya1917 3 years ago
I think you mean cellist....
bakablackbird 2 years ago
ok dude, if you can't relax when playing bach because you are intimidated by him...you suck at playing music and it would be hard to enjoy your interpretation in the first place. Personally I find bach easy to play in a relaxed and enjoyable manner.
theman21 3 years ago 4
so did yo-yo ma record all his bach in baroque pitch does anyone know? cause this is definitely flat
munkybrain 3 years ago
For the "Inspired by Bach" short film series, Yo Yo Ma recorded all the suites in Barqoue pitch. This performance is from that recording.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
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No. Yo-Yo Ma just sucks at playing cello and he is playing everything a half-step flat as usual.
dogtransport 2 years ago
Wrong. You just don't have an appreciation for art.
emotive1591 2 years ago
Ooops... shizophrenia of name. Golmon251 and ArenDDB is the same person. It's time for me to leave my one person role play...
ArenDDB 3 years ago
if i ever played the cello i would learn all the cello suites for they are simply beautiful
Monefastar 3 years ago 14
You would probably have to as well. They are key pieces in the cello repertoire, particularily the 5th and 6th suites due to their difficulty.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
What is the name of this painting?
Slippinginar 3 years ago
The painting is "Winter Landscape" by Caspar David Friedrich, painted in 1811.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Philosophy is only good for a moment. But all will give reverence to the Most High.
Eternalmind08 3 years ago
What vanity, there is truth about art. There are fundimental truths about any art and bach used them beautifully.
Geddywoots 3 years ago
Sorry, it's
Aristoxenus of Tarentum,
a very interesting philosopher, an autority.
ArenDDB 3 years ago
His work his theorically perfect, but...It's very theorical.
The ivory tower.... useless theory and infinites speculations more and more dispatched of reality and feeling.
This point of view, my specticism is philosophically legitimate by Aristoscène of Tarente.
And when you stidy music in general it appears that Bach took all his musical langage on his predecessors.
ArenDDB 3 years ago
Listen to the Brandenburgs I have uploaded. Then tell me if you think he is "dispatched of reality and feeling". Or the St. John Passion, or the Christmas Oratorio, or the Prelude in C, or the Goldberg Variations, or Chaconne in D minor for violin, or the Tocatta & Fugue in D minor for organ.
If you can't feel the emotion in this music, then maybe it's you who is truly "dispatched of reality and feeling".
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
All his music tells a story...STUDY BACH FOR AWHILE AND RESPOND...when you understand him better then you can form an opinion that is more intelectual and sound less ignorant...and i dont mean that in a negative way its just you say things that are horribly untrue.
Geddywoots 3 years ago
Bach was not overratted...if anything he is underrated. His genious is undeniable and as Harmonico 101 said..."it is quite unlikely that the evolution of music would have been the same if it wasn't for J.S. Bach." Truly study him for about a year and comeback. I say a year because there is that much to be learned on him.
Geddywoots 3 years ago 4
sorry..a year?I say for a life..umm..maybe 2?
stageoma 3 years ago
"Mozart was like Bach, a follower"
I have to politely disagree, there is no one that even compares to Bach. Have you ever mathematically studied his "the Musical Offering"? There's stuff in there that we can't even begin to comprehend. He was a genius and no one quite understands him, I think he is comparible to Einstein's Theory of Relativity. No one really knows the implications of the theory.
theman21 3 years ago
In my opinion, the man was a reaal genius. When you can create music like this, you are a genius to me.
etiennealive 3 years ago 2
i definitely agree.
he was one of the best composers ever.
his songs are all amazing.
teddygeigerstoohott 3 years ago
learn how to speak english before you start criticizing bach.
alayeldin 3 years ago
no,i'm not but i might change my orientation if you want to get fucked.
alayeldin 3 years ago
ARE YOU DEAF?!!!
alayeldin 3 years ago
The internet as a whole has one human lesson to teach everyone: that everything is a matter of opinion.
mrgabest 3 years ago 3
"If Mozart is a genius, there is a lot of genius"
Well, if you think about it, it's not that many geniuses compared to the hundreds and hundreds of composers that have lived over the centuries and are now mostly forgotten.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
just wanted to say i like how you put a fitting painting on screen for all the music pieces.
really helps your mind to paint an image of what the music can be representing.
Matt482942 3 years ago
Thank you. I'm glad it helps.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Well actually he did incorporate a fair amount of counterpoint into his music, as did Mozart later on.
Bach wasn't all counterpoint either. Some of his most beautiful compositions are his simple, more melodious ones.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Do you play an instrumnent?
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Prussian nationalism helped bring these composers back into the mainstream, but they were never really forgotten when they died. They were still revered by musicians, and their pieces were still played in private.
But, the music speaks for itself. These composers were genius'. There is no conspiracy there.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Wikipedia isn't all that great, but the Bach section is quite accurate.
Bach was by no means a follower. He learned everything he could about the music of his time and used it to create incredible masterpieces. He didn't invent new forms, but he innovated what was already around into something truly extraodinary.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Mozart was a bit more of a follower because he kept pretty close to what Haydn started. But again, he took what he learned and created incredible masterpieces. I think that Salieri stuff is rubbish personally, but Mozart was quite famous during his lifetime, except when his reputation diminished later in his short life. Mozart was also highly influential after he died. Beethoven for example was heavily influenced by him.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Beethoven seriously pushed the evolution of music moving it from the classical style into the romantic style. Some of his compositions are way ahead of his time, particularily the Grosse Fugue for string quartet. He also wrote some of the most rousing and inspiring music of all time.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Oh, and something about the Salieri thing again. No book on the history of music seriously considers the Salieri murder thing. I also have never met a musician who seriously believes that. That's mostly from uninformed fans of "Amadeus"
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Although Bach did not invent new forms, he brought the music of the Baroque era into it's ultimate maturity, bringing together the various styles of the era and developing counterpoint further than anyone else had before. He also wrote some of the most heart-wrenchingly beautiful and emotional pieces yet to appear.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Bach was also highly admired by many composers after his death even though he was never very popular in his liftime, he was revered be composers such as Mozart and Beethoven, who studied his music and and took what they learned to their compositions.
As well, the Well-Tempered Clavier is the most influential set of keyboard pieces ever and was played and studied by many of the greats.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
So all-in-all, it is quite unlikely that the evolution of music would have been the same if it wasn't for J.S. Bach.
The English wikipedia article on him has a nice section on Bach's legacy. i don't know about the one in French if you would prefer to read it in your native language.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
An exception to the rule that certain elitist individuals have seem to have: that if you don't like Bach, you are stupid.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
"3rd brandburgen concerto. All the notes, all the effects are taken on Vivaldi"
Not really, stylistically it is very italinate but not specifically Vivaldian. Also the complex counterpoint and balance of the instruments for an oddly constructed concerto has little connection to Vivaldi.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
BWV1043 is so epitomatically Bach I am surprised you mentioned it. It is typical Bach with his complex counterpoint and fugal patterns and are beyond what Telemann did in his concertos.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Citing BWV1066 as being Handel-like also shows a lack of understanding of baroque music. It follows the form of the French suite which starts with an Ouverture in the French style and is followed by a specific set of dance movements. Very popular form in the baroque era, especially for keyboard pieces which both Handel and Bach did. Although they're styles are both somewhat similar, Bach's is ultimately more complex.
What are you trying to prove exactly?
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
I don't really like Telemann, he doesn't connect as deeply as Bach does, at least for me that is.
theman21 3 years ago
Don't throw in your opinions of religion into this. That doesn't prove a point at all.
Plus, if you actually read my comments, you would see that I don't loop in stupid people with people who don't like Bach and smart people like Bach. There are many, many exceptions. All I said is that it says something basic about the personality of an individual.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
By the way, I'm not a Bach fanatic either. You can see my channel and you'll see that's not the case. I love the music of many other composers as well. In fact, I have more Vivaldi videos than anyone one composer on my channel.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Okay, now you officially demonstrated to me that you have a severe lack of maturity and intelligence and so proves what I "insinuated" at the beginning.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
I hate your bullshit of being some sort of enlightened person for not liking Bach, like your some sort of rebel against the system, which I'm sure you think is pretty awesome.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Liking Bach does say something strong about the intelligence and maturity of an individual. Nevertheless, I know a few smart people who aren't big fans, and a few dumb people who are. The people who truly love his music are the ones that open up emotionally to the music. For some people, that comes with time. For others it never comes at all. Human beings respond emotionally to different things. Human beings are really complex creatures.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
The problem I had with your obnoxious comment was that saying Bach is boring shows a strong lack of understand, not so much a difference in taste. Same with those who find old movies boring, or don't like reading books becuase they're boring.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
The reason Bach's music wasn't popular in his lifetime is becuase his music was in a style that was losing popularity. The high baroque style was losing out to the bouyant galante/rococo style.
Might I also remind you that after he died, composers like Mozart, Beethoven, and Chopin held him in the highest esteem.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Don't give me that evil media crap, I'm so sick of it. Bach was a supreme genius, and any his works will tell you that; The Brandenburg Concertos, the Goldberg Variations, the Art of the Fugue, the B Minor Mass, the suites for solo cello, the sonatas and partitas for solo violin... I could go on. I have played many of them, and have studied the scores of many of them.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
He is one of the greatest artists in the history of western culture, with perhaps the most devote following of fans in perhaps any kind of music. There is no denying that.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
I wasn't forced to think anything. no one pushed me to like Bach or even classical music in general. I came to those conclusions myself. I love this music, as hard as that may be for you to comprehend.
It's just like showing a seven-year old a film drama. I bet you that the kid would think it was pretty boring. But of course, as you get older, you develop the attention and intelligence to watch those kind of movies and not be bored.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
"Bach is not all the classical music" is actually something I have said to alot of people here on Youtube. I still believe that as do many classical musicians and true connoisseurs.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
I used to not like Bach at all when I was younger. I knew his music was fantastically complicated but I also thought it was exceedingly boring. But as I continue to grow and mature and become a better violinist, I have been able to really appreciate the supreme genius of his music and have the attention to listen to sublime pieces of his like this.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Unfortunately, the main reason classical music's popularity is decaying is becuase children's attention spans are getting shorter and shorter and media is getting louder and louder to try to stand out and trump whatever came before. It seeems to many kids today think that if a song doesn't have a pounding bass, or crazy guitar solos, then it's boring.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Movies display this best. Movies are so different today than they were thiry, forty, years ago. Bonny and Clyde, the first film to ever use bullet scwibs was considered the most atrociously violent movie ever made. Now it's really tame compared to what we have today. We have movies with people's legs being blown off, eyes being ripped out, heads cut off... Then we have graphic sex and rape scenes that would have been unheard of in a film forty years ago.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
To keep the audience's attention we now need constant sound effects, some sort of musical score playing constantly, short scenes, short run-time, lots of emotional blow-ups, high body cout... I could go on.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Getting back to the classical music, I find it a bit disturbing, but understandable that the Bach pieces you said you liked are all high energy, fast pieces. People need to learn to stop racing constantly and just learn to sit back, relax, and let the music carry you away.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
You don't have to be an elitist to like classical music. Why did you even bother looking up this video and commenting if you don't even appreciate classical music?
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Wow, you're a complete idiot you French prick.
HaMoOhAhA 3 years ago
I'm not even going to bother...
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
totally agree potterdkz123. this is going onto euphonium!
laanak 3 years ago
its bach.....
ramonetime 3 years ago
its sounds loeley but may i ask who is playing this.
reborn57 4 years ago 2
Yo Yo Ma
HARMONICO101 4 years ago
further than Yo yo Ma,this music come's directly from the soul and goes in the same direction...I feel a deep emotion by lystening Bach,it's a kind of superior experience...
efapin 4 years ago 4
I have to play this on Euphonium
potterdkz123 4 years ago 2
I love these. Nice pic you got there too.
Prieel 4 years ago 3