Awesome Video and research, as well as reasoning regarding scent to hide youngster. I found, as soon as stated only guts and glands were removed, thinking along the same lines. Not looking for food.
The DNA results from this investigation are part of a larger on going study to be announced by the end of this year. "It's going to be a World Shocker!"
Where were the fragments of pipe from the broken-out areas found? The pipe fragments are an important piece of evidence missing from the video. Also note that the large holes are actually enlargements of two of the existing small rectangular holes, indicating that the enlargement could be made by tearing rather than smashing inward. Known animals would likely tear with their teeth, and the fragments would show evidence of this. Why are the pipe shards not in the video?
I'm not sure a Bear would go to all that trouble to get this animal and then not eat it, but only take the scent glands?
I think the hairs will tell the story though! Bear hairs look much different then what we believe BIgfoot hairs look like. We have photos of both Bear hair and what we think are BF hairs on the AZCRO FORUM. Mitch contacted DR Henner Fahrenbach and compared these hairs to what Dr Fahrenbach believes are BF hair, and they matched.
@AZCROALEX I believe when I watched the video, I heard that the internal organs were eaten out of it as well. It's pretty typical for a predatory to go after the protein enriched organs first. And cougar can be especially picky and selective, I've observed before. Who knows something may have disturbed it during it dinner and it didn't complete the job?
A good hair sample though should shed some light, although nothing definitive other than ruling out a bear. We need a body.
@norseman7088 HAVE YOU SEEN A COUGAR MOVE A 400LB PIPE 50 YARDS BEFORE ?? A BEAR WOULDN'T HAVE STRATEGICALLY PLACE THE PIPE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD.... FLYMRIMICROSCOPY HAS A GOOD POINT...WHERE ARE THE PIPE PIECES & FRAGMENTS ???
Not likely a bear,,though there was a bear sighting in that area earlier this summer. Hopefully next month sometime, we can share what the findings are when we get the results.
@cryptofourcorners The thing that makes me think it's a bear is the teeth marks on the pipe. Obviously we don't know enough about Sasquatch, but it seems they lack large canine teeth to be attempting to chew through a plastic pipe.
i ran across your interview on blogtalk. lc johnson you rock! all of you keep up your hard work. your bringing forth undeniable evidence! God bless you all and keep you all safe!
Great video, JC! I'm very blessed to be involved within C4C, and seeing the evidence close up and in person is very compelling and astonishing. And I must remind those in doubt about the pipe, that it was not C4C that found it, but was directed to the pipe by friends of the landowners. That PVC pipe was used daily in the field, and it's present condtion was created during the night, while everyone was asleep. The Navajo people are honest folk, and would not lead others in a deceptive hoax.
Great Investigation JC, Brenda and Darin! Top notch work. I Know JC personally folks and unlike many You Tube presentations on this topic this one is legit! Hope to see you soon my friends, stay safe!
I see your point . Understand the point I was making is there ARE animals that eats skunks . To make a statment that there are no animals to eat them was wrong and I pointed that out . As for the pipe it could have had the holes already . The reason I am makeing this statment is I am unsure but There was a group with the same name as this that stands behind Tom Biscardi and as everyone in the bigfoot field knows Tom is a Hoaxer . With this said and I could be worng but who knows
Yeah, I don't have any confidence in Biscardi. I never believed that he was "duped" in that last bigfoot-in-the-freezer hoax. He gave statements on TV at the time that were totally unsupportable. He hadn't even examined the "corpse" but insisted that case was absolutely true. But he got what he wanted....attention and publicity.
I have a friend that was ATVing in Southern Big Sur (near Gorda) that ran into a crazy man living alone way up in the mountains. The interesting thing that my friend noted was that the guy smelled worse than anything he had ever smelled before. He said he smelled like dead animal. He asked the guy why he smelled so bad and it turns out that the guy was rubbing animal (bear he said) fat on himself to keep away the insects. I theorize that this is what is actually behind the reported smells.
would like to see a complete report of the educational background of the participants of this investigation. College, police work-CSI, zoology-paleontology-anthropology, ete? I'm afraid that type of "research" is what makes people take this form of investigation as sillyness & non-believable. You'll never see JC and other self-educated investigators on major news or networks, only on low-priority radio and obscure internet talk shows.
Blood, skin and hair for DNA. I stand corrected on skunk eaters. Although whatever went after this skunk, really did not eat it. Just borrowed some things.
@brogs60 Blood or lymphocytes is a great source to extract and isolate DNA. It's a common procedure to extract DNA out of humans, as well as swabbing the interior of a cheek.
Your not right There are MANY animals that eats skunks. I make this statment because I am an Animal Control Office . And I get payed by peopple to remove animals So with that said I know there are MANY animals that would eat a skunk
There are some animals of course, but none of them can punch through an irrigation pipe. A black bear could break through a pipe I suppose, assuming they have any in that area, but they aren't known to be skunk eaters....and the skunk wasn't consumed.
Awesome Video and research, as well as reasoning regarding scent to hide youngster. I found, as soon as stated only guts and glands were removed, thinking along the same lines. Not looking for food.
symphonicaura 3 weeks ago
I feel bad for the skunk ;(
KZWolf 1 month ago
The DNA results from this investigation are part of a larger on going study to be announced by the end of this year. "It's going to be a World Shocker!"
cryptofourcorners 4 months ago
Hi, Can you now state what the DNA results are? Thanks
BusterTV1 4 months ago
Skinwalkers smell like death.
jetpoweredgriffin 6 months ago
you should cut it up and look for DNA evidence inside
TheBoenairgeez56 7 months ago
Ummm, Bears here in Farmington? or cougars? I think that is kind of impossible that Kind of wild life doesn't exist much here..
dinet88 8 months ago
The night before photos might answer some of your questions.
cryptofourcorners 1 year ago
Where were the fragments of pipe from the broken-out areas found? The pipe fragments are an important piece of evidence missing from the video. Also note that the large holes are actually enlargements of two of the existing small rectangular holes, indicating that the enlargement could be made by tearing rather than smashing inward. Known animals would likely tear with their teeth, and the fragments would show evidence of this. Why are the pipe shards not in the video?
FlyMRIMicroscopy 1 year ago
Hi. Very good reasoning.
chuck
chumola9 1 year ago
You are right NM, the only way to end the discussion scientifically will be with a Body, that's just a fact...
I'm not out there trying to bring one down, but that is what it will take!
AZCROALEX 1 year ago
I'm not sure a Bear would go to all that trouble to get this animal and then not eat it, but only take the scent glands?
I think the hairs will tell the story though! Bear hairs look much different then what we believe BIgfoot hairs look like. We have photos of both Bear hair and what we think are BF hairs on the AZCRO FORUM. Mitch contacted DR Henner Fahrenbach and compared these hairs to what Dr Fahrenbach believes are BF hair, and they matched.
I believe the BF hair lacks a Medulla?
AZCROALEX 1 year ago
@AZCROALEX I believe when I watched the video, I heard that the internal organs were eaten out of it as well. It's pretty typical for a predatory to go after the protein enriched organs first. And cougar can be especially picky and selective, I've observed before. Who knows something may have disturbed it during it dinner and it didn't complete the job?
A good hair sample though should shed some light, although nothing definitive other than ruling out a bear. We need a body.
norseman7088 1 year ago
@norseman7088 HAVE YOU SEEN A COUGAR MOVE A 400LB PIPE 50 YARDS BEFORE ?? A BEAR WOULDN'T HAVE STRATEGICALLY PLACE THE PIPE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD.... FLYMRIMICROSCOPY HAS A GOOD POINT...WHERE ARE THE PIPE PIECES & FRAGMENTS ???
CHEW5704 1 year ago
We could also analyze one of the hairs that you have, if you have not done that yet.
Just send me one J.C. and we can make a slide and look at it under the lens to compare... We can of course take a photo of it at that time too. :)
Good Luck on the Radio this week J.C!
This video as does all your previous really ROCK!
AZCROALEX 1 year ago
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AZCROALEX 1 year ago
Not likely a bear,,though there was a bear sighting in that area earlier this summer. Hopefully next month sometime, we can share what the findings are when we get the results.
cryptofourcorners 1 year ago
@cryptofourcorners The thing that makes me think it's a bear is the teeth marks on the pipe. Obviously we don't know enough about Sasquatch, but it seems they lack large canine teeth to be attempting to chew through a plastic pipe.
norseman7088 1 year ago
Can you rule out a bear?
norseman7088 1 year ago
i ran across your interview on blogtalk. lc johnson you rock! all of you keep up your hard work. your bringing forth undeniable evidence! God bless you all and keep you all safe!
indibabs122275 1 year ago
Strange and those are some wide shoulders to gain the leverage from that width. Great video and very good analysis of the situation.
BFResearchSE 1 year ago
anything on those results yet?
Takedown34 1 year ago
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@Takedown34- have patience, and you will receive :-)
radialspokes 1 year ago
@Takedown34 Have patience, and your wishes will be recieved :-)
radialspokes 1 year ago
Very interesting video and very inciteful points at the end
MrCaltec 1 year ago
Great video, JC! I'm very blessed to be involved within C4C, and seeing the evidence close up and in person is very compelling and astonishing. And I must remind those in doubt about the pipe, that it was not C4C that found it, but was directed to the pipe by friends of the landowners. That PVC pipe was used daily in the field, and it's present condtion was created during the night, while everyone was asleep. The Navajo people are honest folk, and would not lead others in a deceptive hoax.
radialspokes 1 year ago
Excellent report, great work and everyone should look forward to the test results..
philipspencerva 1 year ago
Great Investigation JC, Brenda and Darin! Top notch work. I Know JC personally folks and unlike many You Tube presentations on this topic this one is legit! Hope to see you soon my friends, stay safe!
Mark
tuffy96c 1 year ago
Maybe someone was on a quest to collect some skunk organs in order to use against the local boss bear.
ColicQuantum 1 year ago
I see your point . Understand the point I was making is there ARE animals that eats skunks . To make a statment that there are no animals to eat them was wrong and I pointed that out . As for the pipe it could have had the holes already . The reason I am makeing this statment is I am unsure but There was a group with the same name as this that stands behind Tom Biscardi and as everyone in the bigfoot field knows Tom is a Hoaxer . With this said and I could be worng but who knows
scshawk37 1 year ago
@scshawk37
Yeah, I don't have any confidence in Biscardi. I never believed that he was "duped" in that last bigfoot-in-the-freezer hoax. He gave statements on TV at the time that were totally unsupportable. He hadn't even examined the "corpse" but insisted that case was absolutely true. But he got what he wanted....attention and publicity.
Hako2004 1 year ago
I have a friend that was ATVing in Southern Big Sur (near Gorda) that ran into a crazy man living alone way up in the mountains. The interesting thing that my friend noted was that the guy smelled worse than anything he had ever smelled before. He said he smelled like dead animal. He asked the guy why he smelled so bad and it turns out that the guy was rubbing animal (bear he said) fat on himself to keep away the insects. I theorize that this is what is actually behind the reported smells.
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would like to see a complete report of the educational background of the participants of this investigation. College, police work-CSI, zoology-paleontology-anthropology, ete? I'm afraid that type of "research" is what makes people take this form of investigation as sillyness & non-believable. You'll never see JC and other self-educated investigators on major news or networks, only on low-priority radio and obscure internet talk shows.
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Bigsumbeoch2010 1 year ago
Makes alot of sense, the theory of using the skunk scent to disguise it's own . it also shows a pretty high intelligence at work.
killsing 1 year ago
Blood, skin and hair for DNA. I stand corrected on skunk eaters. Although whatever went after this skunk, really did not eat it. Just borrowed some things.
cryptofourcorners 1 year ago
DNA off the blood?
brogs60 1 year ago
@brogs60 Blood or lymphocytes is a great source to extract and isolate DNA. It's a common procedure to extract DNA out of humans, as well as swabbing the interior of a cheek.
radialspokes 1 year ago
Your not right There are MANY animals that eats skunks. I make this statment because I am an Animal Control Office . And I get payed by peopple to remove animals So with that said I know there are MANY animals that would eat a skunk
scshawk37 1 year ago
@scshawk37
There are some animals of course, but none of them can punch through an irrigation pipe. A black bear could break through a pipe I suppose, assuming they have any in that area, but they aren't known to be skunk eaters....and the skunk wasn't consumed.
Hako2004 1 year ago
Intriguing to say the least.
lilfeathers2000 1 year ago